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Anonymous No.28482284 >>28482436 >>28482463 >>28482568 >>28482955 >>28484648 >>28484705 >>28485243 >>28487356 >>28487494 >>28489997 >>28491361 >>28493506 >>28494014 >>28495896 >>28496345 >>28496804 >>28498917 >>28511284 >>28518559 >>28524401 >>28526266 >>28529490 >>28530024 >>28532446 >>28533428 >>28533472 >>28535587
Why did this not take off outside of California? Easily one of the best interiors from Toyota yet it's only on this car and only sold in Cali.
Anonymous No.28482343 >>28485076 >>28524643
To sell outside California. We need more H2 mobility refueled by nuclear power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPAd2hwaJZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV9Ep6pmF9M
Anonymous No.28482423
You can found one 12k via fuel card
Anonymous No.28482425 >>28484637 >>28489573 >>28494132
hydrogen is a retarded meme
Anonymous No.28482436
>>28482284 (OP)
>Why did this not take off outside of California?
I don't think there's a single place to fill it up in my state without seeking private sources. It's why you can pick these up absolutely rock bottom dirt cheap right now.
Anonymous No.28482463 >>28482575 >>28483530 >>28483555 >>28483635 >>28484563 >>28489734 >>28490018 >>28501570
>>28482284 (OP)
/o/tists, red pill me on hydrogen cars, are they good or just a meme like evs?
Anonymous No.28482511 >>28484637 >>28514608
hydrogen is a futuristic solution
Anonymous No.28482568 >>28482799 >>28491829 >>28500438
>>28482284 (OP)
>Why did this not take off outside of California?
you literally cannot take it outside of California. there's nowhere to get fuel
Anonymous No.28482575 >>28482705 >>28484830
>>28482463
well in the case of the Mirai, it basically is an EV, but instead of a large lithium ion battery it uses hydrogen in a fuel cell to create electricity.
Anonymous No.28482705
>>28482575
Also somewhat gas vehicle
Anonymous No.28482799 >>28497725
>>28482568
Hm, Company has work around it.
Anonymous No.28482828 >>28482851 >>28482879 >>28482904 >>28483109 >>28488330 >>28489577 >>28489737 >>28490925 >>28503673
Alright, let's break it down and compare the costs of running both the Toyota Mirai (which uses hydrogen) and a gasoline car.
1. Cost of driving the Toyota Mirai

The Mirai consumes 0.89 kg of hydrogen per 100 km.

Hydrogen costs $36/kg.

Cost per 100 km for the Mirai:
0.89kgร—36$/kg=32.04$/100 km
0.89kgร—36$/kg=32.04$/100 km
2. Cost of driving a gasoline car

The gasoline car consumes 10 L of gasoline per 100 km.

Gasoline costs $1.5/L.

Cost per 100 km for the gasoline car:
10Lร—1.5$/L=15$/100 km
10Lร—1.5$/L=15$/100 km
3. Difference in cost

To find how much more expensive the Mirai is compared to the gasoline car:
32.04$/100 kmโˆ’15$/100 km=17.04$/100 km
32.04$/100 kmโˆ’15$/100 km=17.04$/100 km
Conclusion:

The Toyota Mirai costs $17.04 more per 100 km to operate than the gasoline car, based on current fuel prices.

To compare the Toyota Mirai to a Tesla Model S, we'll need to look at the cost of electricity for charging a Tesla in California, and then we can see how the costs stack up for 100 km of driving.
1. Tesla Model S (Electric Vehicle) Costs

In California, the average price for supercharging is around $0.25 per kWh.

A Tesla Model S has an efficiency of about 200 Wh/km (or 0.2 kWh/km).
Cost to drive 100 km in a Tesla Model S:
0.2kWh/kmร—100km=20kWh
0.2kWh/kmร—100km=20kWh
20kWhร—0.25$/kWh=5$/100 km
20kWhร—0.25$/kWh=5$/100 km
2. Comparison to Toyota Mirai

We already know the Toyota Mirai costs $32.04 per 100 km to operate with hydrogen.
3. Difference in cost

The difference between the two cars' operational costs per 100 km is:
32.04$/100 kmโˆ’5$/100 km=27.04$/100 km
32.04$/100 kmโˆ’5$/100 km=27.04$/100 km
Conclusion:

A Tesla Model S is about $27.04 cheaper per 100 km to operate compared to the Toyota Mirai, based on current California supercharging and hydrogen fuel prices.

Let me know if you'd like to dive deeper into anything else!
Anonymous No.28482851 >>28483094
>>28482828
> both the Toyota Mirai (which uses hydrogen) and a gasoline car.
>goes on to shill for Tesla
Fuck off Elon. Also Mirai consumers get the first $15,000 or 6 years of hydrogen for free.
Anonymous No.28482879
>>28482828
fuck off chatGPT
Anonymous No.28482904
>>28482828
Good morning, sirs
Anonymous No.28482955 >>28486618 >>28491300
>>28482284 (OP)
the mercedes f-cell SUV consumes about 340g of hydrogen per 100km
with 1.8kw input power you can generate 1kg of hydrogen per day at home
Anonymous No.28483046 >>28483185 >>28484884 >>28484898
Bosch SOFC generator coming out?
Anonymous No.28483094 >>28483166 >>28484078 >>28506698 >>28508802 >>28518448
>>28482851
nice esl bud
the mirai is an electric car
Anonymous No.28483109 >>28483177
>>28482828
Dive deeper into why you and OP are faggots.
Anonymous No.28483166 >>28483364
>>28483094
But powered by h2 gas(oline)
Anonymous No.28483177
>>28483109
Wrong OP
>>28480525
Anonymous No.28483185
>>28483046
That webm made me unreasonably angy.
Anonymous No.28483364 >>28483381 >>28484539 >>28491300
>>28483166
Most of Californias electricity comes from natural gas most hydrogen is also made from natural gas
Introducing an intermediary step is dumb as ICEs can run off lpg
Anonymous No.28483381 >>28486768
>>28483364
Soon replace by natural resources of hydrogen (white) and nuclear (pink)
Anonymous No.28483530 >>28484830
>>28482463
Hydrogen fuel cell cars are still EV's. They use the fuel cell as a range extender. They still have a lithium battery bank doing most the work. I worked at a few warehouses with hydrogen forklifts and they didn't really achieve anything over a regular lead acid powered forklift except for having less range.
Anonymous No.28483555 >>28483564
>>28482463
James May say the cars are amazing. Fast refueling and good on drive.
Anonymous No.28483564 >>28483600
>>28483555
May was into hydrogen but having only one place in that London to fuel made it a stupid pos.
Bloke had 2 cars and gave up on it.
Anonymous No.28483600
>>28483564
Well he got chance ride it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dW8hns2dWc
Anonymous No.28483611 >>28483625
>fuel stations only exist in a small part of the country
>fuel stations have long queues and might be closed and have no alternatives
>fuel is expensive and not viable without $15000 cards given out by toyota
Yeah I wonder why.
Anonymous No.28483625 >>28486852
>>28483611
True zero and iwatani etc working on the infrastructure.
Anonymous No.28483635
>>28482463
Yeah theyโ€™re good, perhaps great. There are the ones that use hydrogen as fuel and then there hydrogen fuel cells which use the hydrogen to charge what is essentially an EV battery.

The first kind is based.

There are problems in that it isnโ€™t exactly greener than gas at the moment and distribution is non existent. Thus it has been limited
Anonymous No.28483830
I'll might consider mirai import and install self-water fuel
Anonymous No.28484075 >>28492850 >>28507554
Beep*
Anonymous No.28484078
>>28483094
Maybe you should learn to read, ESL. No where in my post did I say it's not an electric car. Your chatgpt post is flat out wrong. Mirai owners get the first $15,000 or 6 years of hydrogen for free. That alone makes it well worth it.
Anonymous No.28484539
>>28483364
>petrol prices sky rocket
Who run CNG these day?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWC3Hvrotx4
Anonymous No.28484563 >>28484830
>>28482463
its basically e-rev with hydrogen tank
Anonymous No.28484637 >>28484645
>>28482425
cringe
>>28482511
based
Anonymous No.28484645 >>28484654 >>28484743 >>28486618 >>28489962
>>28484637
wow! this will really help me on my next roadtrip
Anonymous No.28484648 >>28484659 >>28484692
>>28482284 (OP)
fuck you mean "outside of california"
shit didn't even "take off" inside of california. they sold 16k in 12 years.
Anonymous No.28484654
>>28484645
Now private companies can expanding into Baja California, Las Vegas and Phoenix. Trust in aqua H plan.
Anonymous No.28484659
>>28484648
Hawaii and Texas have few station
Anonymous No.28484692 >>28484728
>>28484648
Hawaii and Texas have few station.

Trucking highway and railway line make sense.
Anonymous No.28484705 >>28484715
>>28482284 (OP)
1-2 hydrogen station that costs 1+ million to build for 2 stalls each. You're trapped in a 100 mile radius of where that hydrogen station is
Anonymous No.28484715
>>28484705
>The estimated budget for "Vampire: The Masquerade โ€“ Bloodlines 2" is believed to be between $20 million-$25 million or $35 million
Instead funded network of H2 station and nuclear facilities, we have wasted on DEI clarify trash.
Anonymous No.28484728 >>28484734 >>28485354 >>28500607
>>28484692
No it doesn't. With trucking battery EVs are doing it. Hydrogen didnt make sense in passenger cars. It doesnt make sense in commercial trucks.
Anonymous No.28484734 >>28500607
>>28484728
>It doesnt make sense in commercial trucks.
Tesla semi will failed lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jvlo3KOtys
Anonymous No.28484743 >>28484766 >>28484780 >>28485186 >>28485455
>>28484645
/o/tards unironically believing "EVs have no range for road trips!" while thinking hydrogen will take off
Anonymous No.28484766 >>28484774 >>28485455
>>28484743
Yep. It was a stupid idea back then and it was a stupid idea now to suggest hydrogen would beat out EV. 20 EV chargers for every single Hydrogen filling station makes EV chargers much more affordable
Anonymous No.28484774
>>28484766
>twatter xsis
Dieselgate was a mistake
Anonymous No.28484780
>>28484743
>o/tards unironically believing "EVs have no range for road trips!" while thinking hydrogen will t-ACK!!
Anonymous No.28484830
>>28484563
>>28483530
>>28482575
Wtf? I love ice compression gas gas gas!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scoY1qi4Ycs
Anonymous No.28484884
>>28483046
And I thought my microwave was retarded.
Anonymous No.28484898
>>28483046
My microwave is about 30 years old, I'll replace it when it stops being a microwave and becomes a small cupboard.
That thing is so retarded I suspect it has to be connected to get helpful hints like how not to attack it with a hammer.
Anonymous No.28485076 >>28493178 >>28502684
>>28482343
Albertaโ€™s first mobile hydrogen fuelling station!
Anonymous No.28485186
>>28484743
t.
Anonymous No.28485243
>>28482284 (OP)
In progress
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/sunlight-powered-catalyst-supercharges-green-hydrogen-production-by-800/

https://www.goodreturns.in/news/big-news-for-drivers-dual-colour-number-plates-for-hydrogen-vehicles-coming-soon-1439121.html
Anonymous No.28485354
>>28484728
Drivers going strong.
https://www.cleantrucking.com/hydrogen/article/15737888/nikola-bankruptcy-sparks-industry-reactions
Anonymous No.28485406
>You're trapped in a 100 mile radius of where that hydrogen station is
Mirai gets 400mi range. You're only trapped if you leave California.
Anonymous No.28485455 >>28485904 >>28486639 >>28495473
>>28484766
>>28484743
If the US government didn't fully fund the supercharger network it would be no where near what it is today. Elon got so much money from the government to push EV it's ridiculous.
Anonymous No.28485506 >>28485598
hehe Mirais piss on the roads
Anonymous No.28485598 >>28531448
>>28485506
It has a 'pee' button
Anonymous No.28485904 >>28521945
>>28485455
Elon can revisit upcoming hydrogen vehicle Tesla making
Anonymous No.28486541
Honda have CR-V:fuel cell out
Anonymous No.28486618 >>28486798 >>28487941
>>28482955
>>28484645
Have water fuel?
Anonymous No.28486639
>>28485455
>If the US government didn't fully fund the supercharger network
But that's the job of government.
Anonymous No.28486768 >>28486911 >>28491300
>>28483381
>nuclear
https://www.neimagazine.com/news/nuscale-advances-smr-desalination-hydrogen/
https://www.hartenergy.com/exclusives/it-time-hydrogen-rebrand-us-213383
Anonymous No.28486798 >>28486974 >>28489026
>>28486618
this is what we could have for a decade now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnTp3PbXza8
Anonymous No.28486852 >>28502713
>>28483625
>list of them
Air Products and Chemicals Inc.
Linde plc
Nel ASA
Plug Power Inc.
Hydrogenics Corporation
ITM Power plc
Shell Hydrogen
Toyota Tsusho Corporation
Ceres Media Inc.
McPhy Energy S.A.
Ballard Power Systems Inc.
Anonymous No.28486911
>>28486768
Ah, atomic energy taxes confirmed
https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-production-thermochemical-water-splitting
Anonymous No.28486974 >>28489026
>>28486798
Hydrexia enterprise have solution pattern for magnesium hydride.
Anonymous No.28487187
>Nuclear industrial produce sustainable clean hy- the future is coal!
Anonymous No.28487356
>>28482284 (OP)
It beautiful car.
Anonymous No.28487491 >>28529533
See hyundai concept n vision 74
Anonymous No.28487494 >>28487535 >>28488286 >>28489249 >>28491979 >>28494256 >>28515986 >>28529533
>>28482284 (OP)
There was a guy that posted about his on Reddit recently, he said the prepaid hydrogen fuel card ran out within 16 months because the cost of hydrogen went way up, so now he was paying more to drive the car than a 35 MPG gasoline car lol

Think about it logically for a second, what do we already have infrastructure of?

Electricity?

Or Hydrogen?

Hydrogen was doomed from the beginning, zero infrastructure, you can plug an EV in to literally any outlet.... such a dumb fucking idea.
Anonymous No.28487535
>>28487494
>fossil fuel to generate electricity
Fookinโ€™ burnt dirty coal!!
Anonymous No.28487756 >>28511894
GM mightโ€™ve rebooted Camaro built-in hydrogen ICE
Anonymous No.28487941
>>28486618
Best kind of fuel
Anonymous No.28488286
>>28487494
Go back, normie
Anonymous No.28488330
>>28482828
even if your mother is in love with her hitachi, you still shouldnt treat botGPT as your daddy,
Anonymous No.28488581 >>28501025 >>28515773
Who watch mirai nikki episodes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZnQA1yKUbQ
Anonymous No.28489026
>>28486798
>>28486974
That from terra or alternative option

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuR0QKBnnGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tEN3XNtWnk
Anonymous No.28489236
Every /n/ ITT gets utterly raped by Porsche daily.
Anonymous No.28489249 >>28489566 >>28489979 >>28494256
>>28487494
Cost of hydrogen (today) is $36/kg across basically all of Cali, some places are lower tho within. You get $15,000 free. Mirai holds 5.6 kg, and gets a range of ~400mi on that.

The cost of hydrogen has in fact gone up, alot, so it was cheaper 16 months ago by a bit, but who cares. at $36/kg he gets 416kg of it for free which is 74 full tanks, which is just shy of 30,000 miles for a car that quite literally can't leave the state of California.

I'm not buying that story for a moment. No way this man drove the entire length of CA nearly 35 times in 16 months in a car that can not leave CA due to no fuel being available outside it.
Anonymous No.28489566
>>28489249
He probably leasing different fuel card.
Anonymous No.28489573 >>28494014 >>28497720
>>28482425
Why? It is easy to make, made cleanly using solar and even energy directly from sunlight without the use of solar cells, it burns clean, can produce the same HP if not more (and this will only get better as time goes on), is a direct replacement for fuel without worry about changing too much minimizing infrastructure costs, utilizes the same tax system as fuel, is measurable in the same aspect as fuel, doesn't need to come from foreign soil, doesn't need to destroy environments to be claimed/developed, and still allows you to make vroom vroom noises when accelerating.
Anonymous No.28489577 >>28534919
>>28482828
Can you type this again, but in American?
Anonymous No.28489734 >>28489789 >>28532905
>>28482463
They wont explode if stabbed in the battery but hydrogen sucks as fuel,its a bitch to store
Anonymous No.28489737 >>28490017
>>28482828
Is saving those 5 isnt worth having a firebomb under your balls
Also evs look gay
Anonymous No.28489789
>>28489734
Hydrogen have higher power rates. Storage underground space and metal hydride unit can provide.
Anonymous No.28489962 >>28490004
>>28484645
Well, anon?
https://findfuelstation.com/hydrogen/ohio
Anonymous No.28489979 >>28490895
>>28489249
>If you happened to own a Toyota Mirai or other hydrogen vehicle in Washington state, youโ€™re cheering right now. Not just because you can finally refuel your car, but because you can do it at the low, low price of just four dollars per kilogram. Thatโ€™s wildly cheap compared to prevailing prices in California, where drivers can expect to pay up to $36/kg at the pump. - Lewin Day
You about for surprise KEK
Anonymous No.28489997 >>28490881
>>28482284 (OP)
There's like 10 public hydrogen fuel stations in the entire rest of the US.
Anonymous No.28490004 >>28494673
>>28489962
>35 states not even listed
Anonymous No.28490017
>>28489737
>anti-hydrogen EV enthusiasts
Sum them up
Anonymous No.28490018 >>28490362
>>28482463


The thing you need to understand and that most people don't understand is that hydrogen is not a source of energy - it's a medium for energy; you use energy from some other source to run a hydrogen generator, then store and or transport the hydrogen for later use.
Of course, when you convert hydrogen you generally have to use it right away too, because it is excessively difficult to store or transport hydrogen, because it is the lightest complete atom in the universe, and will wiggle its way out of practically anything eventually, up too and including any molecular bonds containing hydrogen and earth's own gravitational field itself, to ultimately realize its destiny as free floating undifferentiated matter in the void of space.
Anonymous No.28490362 >>28491782
>>28490018
>hydrogen is not a source of energy
Same old argument. Battery canโ€™t power without protection layer for lithium ion.
Anonymous No.28490881 >>28490957
>>28489997
So what government doing?
Anonymous No.28490895 >>28492480 >>28519146
>>28489979
>$4/kg
Is California just taxing the hell out of it or did Washington State subsidize it?
Anonymous No.28490906 >>28490915 >>28491329 >>28494967 >>28516226
Because of the risk of something like this
Anonymous No.28490915
>>28490906
>Brazil
>petrol station
>van
>The driver was refuelling the vehicle with compressed natural gas, a popular alternative to gasoline and diesel in Brazil. According to some local news reports, the cause of the explosion was a build-up of pressure inside the natural gas cylinder.
>compressed natural gas
Low IQ
Anonymous No.28490925 >>28490973 >>28491237
>>28482828
>The gasoline car consumes 10 L of gasoline per 100 km.
>Gasoline costs $1.5/L.
>Cost per 100 km for the gasoline car:
>10Lร—1.5$/L=15$/100 km
>10Lร—1.5$/L=15$/100 km

I like how this retard cherry picked a chevy 2500s equivalent gas mileage with the made up $5+ gas price even California doesn't have


Even a standard gas Toyota Camry will have twice this efficiency

Nice chatgtp math, retard
Anonymous No.28490957 >>28490981 >>28491300 >>28492864 >>28494773
>>28490881
>ESL
There's no need to do a hydrogen proliferation program because the government already did a very successful electrification program and battery EVs are better than hydrogen ones.
If you want more hydrogen you're going to need more nuclear.
Anonymous No.28490973
>>28490925
>chevy 2500s equivalent gas mileage
Those are closer to 15 l/100km highway even on H/T tires
>with the made up $5+ gas price even California doesn't have
Europoor prices probably. I get 10 liters per 100 km combined and pay about 1.3 Euro for liter, but that's 20 year old turbo convertible in hilly terrain. Or a 10 year old V6 hybrid.
>Even a standard gas Toyota Camry will have twice this efficiency
A modern Camry most probably won't, but smaller hybrids like CT200h or Honda Fit do get 5l/100.
Anonymous No.28490981 >>28491215 >>28491292
>>28490957
>Elonโ€™s sale loss
GOP bill has announced.
Anonymous No.28491215
>>28490981
Heh.
Anonymous No.28491237
>>28490925
>made up $5+ gas price even California doesn't have
this is the closest gas station to me right now
was almost $7 during the coof
Anonymous No.28491292 >>28491306 >>28492864
>>28490981
>announced
It passed the Senate even. It completely kills EV, removing the tax credits and taxes wind and solar to boot.
Anonymous No.28491300 >>28492613
>>28490957
>>28486768
>>28482955
>>28483364
>SMR with carbon capture, methane pyrolysis, and natural H2O
Preparing uranium enrichment.
https://www.respectmyplanet.org/public_html/united_states
Anonymous No.28491306 >>28491793
>>28491292
When you say taxes solar, like it taxes people who have solar panels on their roof? Because they aren't buying enough energy from the local power company?
Anonymous No.28491329
>>28490906
Damn, that's horrifying.
Anonymous No.28491361 >>28491650
>>28482284 (OP)
It didn't take off in California either. The state and private (subsidized) companies invested heavily in hydrogen refueling infrastructure. But even with those investments, it's still unreliable. As a result, owners can drive 15-to-20 miles to their nearest station only to find the pumps aren't working, they're empty, or they're only full enough to provide a partial refill.

Also, manufacturers and suppliers planned that as more infrastructure was built and more cars sold, the supply of hydrogen would increase in response and costs per pound would decrease. But that didn't happen. Instead, the price per pound has roughly doubled, to the point where a fill-up (roughly 300 miles of driving) costs $150-to-$180. Thus, the only way for manufacturers to sell these cars is to subsidize the purchase of fuel.

That's why you can now buy an off-lease 3-year-old Mirai in California that had an MSRP of $45k for $8-to-$12k used and get a $15k fuel card thrown in. That's an incredible deal for what is effectively a luxury car with impeccable reliability, but that's the only way Toyota can sell these. And even then, is it worth the appreciable risk of being stranded because you can't find a station nearby that has any hydrogen to use your dealer-supplied fuel card to buy?
Anonymous No.28491650
>>28491361
China now domination!

https://www.powermag.com/a-modern-blueprint-for-coastal-power-chinas-offshore-solar-hydrogen-integration/

https://fuelcellsworks.com/2025/07/01/energy-innovation/hydrogen-in-china-scaling-up-while-the-west-hesitates
Anonymous No.28491782
>>28490362
what are you trying to say anon.
Anonymous No.28491793 >>28491869
>>28491306
There's no 'tax on solar' as such. There is a tax on importing components from china - which you could say is effectively a 'tax on solar' in practice since all these greengrifting companies are just flipping parts from aliexpress anyways, but that's no big loss.
Anonymous No.28491829 >>28491856 >>28492517 >>28494673 >>28515773
>>28482568
>you literally cannot take it outside of California.
Not with that attitude
Anonymous No.28491856
>>28491829
>Same with hydrogen bill (texas) and Mike Strizki (new jersey).
mega based
Anonymous No.28491869 >>28491993
>>28491793
If there are no American companies willing or able to meet the demand, I'd say it is a big loss.
Anonymous No.28491979
>>28487494
Kill yourself fucking gayass redditor
Anonymous No.28491993 >>28492421
>>28491869
I mean in the sense they weren't providing much if any value to begin with (or just the opposite in many cases of the grifting).
Anonymous No.28492131 >>28492387
Hydrogen really only made sense if gasoline was banned way back in like 2005 or so. You can compare it EVs but if hydrogen has to compete with gas and diesel then it is dead because it is always going to be more expensive until gas is banned or we just run out or something.
Anonymous No.28492193 >>28492548
People ITT calling EVs a hire hazard as if hydrogen also isn't highly explosive lol
Anonymous No.28492387
>>28492131
Diesel run hydrogen too
Anonymous No.28492421
>>28491993
If the customer is getting lower energy costs or is able to move their energy generation off grid (and they desire to do so), then they are providing value.
Anonymous No.28492480
>>28490895
Californian follow green taxes like EV fee policymakers?
Anonymous No.28492517
>>28491829
>Challenge diving the location for 100-250k
Would!
Anonymous No.28492548 >>28492613
>>28492193
>Hydrogen
>capable of mitigating pressure with blow off values
>capable of being put out with water and suppressants
>EVs
>lithium fires
>just have to let it melt the asphalt and car frame
>literally cannot put them out.

There are only 2 downsides to hydrogen. It's not as fuel dense, and the production is still costly if only producing it for the sake of fuel.
Anonymous No.28492613
>>28492548
>as fuel dense, and the production is still costly if only producing it
See>>28491300
Anonymous No.28492850
>>28484075
choo*
Anonymous No.28492864
>>28490957
>>28491292
No problem kek
https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/status/1936070959779471636
Anonymous No.28493178 >>28494254
>>28485076
Make Canada great again!
https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/edmonton-deploys-canadas-first-mobile-hydrogen-fuelling-station-to-accelerate-fleet-decarbonization/
Anonymous No.28493506
>>28482284 (OP)
>not take off
Western government bia, stupidity for boomers and evfags
Anonymous No.28494014 >>28494168 >>28494773 >>28513811
>>28489573
>>28482284 (OP)
I work with hydrogen on daily basis (chemical industry)
people think hydrogen is "basically the same as propane, but made from water"
you could not be further from truth

50L tank at 100bar holds about 25kg of propane (about 1GJ of energy)
the same tank at 100 bar will hold only 0,4kg of hydrogen (that's right, 400 GRAMS), which is about 0,05GJ of energy

This is why everyone who ever tried building hydrogen car used liquid hydrogen tank rather than compressed hydrogen tank, increasing the complexity tenfold and preventing hydrogen to be use the similar (let alone the same) infrastructure as LPG/CNG
So your tank is at -253ยฐC, which means it will be constantly boiling off and releasing hydrogen into the air (if it didn't, the tank would just explode like a bottle filled with dry ice).
IIRC Mirai would be empty after standing for like a month and it has an actually decently insulated tank.

Embrittlement and H2 seeping through metal itself is also a thing, but it's not as bad as some make it out to be - provided you use the right alloys ($$$)

Another point. 99% of hydrogen is made as side product in gasoline production
Electrolysis is far more expensive and energy losses are so high that it makes no financial sense except for a small handful of cases.
You are better off using electricity directly, in EVs.

With hydrogen you get ALL disadvantages of current EVs or worse (more expensive, might explode if tank ruptures in a crash, slower to refuel than EVs, lower range than most EVs)
ALL disadvantages of ICEVs (can't refuel at home, even higher fuel costs, high complexity)

>tl;dr hydrogen does not behave as LPG/CNG and doesn't offer any benefit besides virtue signaling
Anonymous No.28494132
>>28482425
It's literally the base of all elements.
Anonymous No.28494168 >>28507386 >>28511418
>>28494014
H2 ICE >>> EV gearless box
Anonymous No.28494254 >>28495261
>>28493178
Canada has the benefit of virtually their entire population living along the US border.
Anonymous No.28494256
>>28487494
>>28489249
So mirai driver made it back.
Anonymous No.28494258 >>28494266
https://tcct.com/news/2020/11/the-mysterious-death-of-stanley-meyer-and-his-water-powered-car/
Today, I will remind them.
Anonymous No.28494266 >>28494308
>>28494258
Similar mysteries circumstance that of diesel inventorโ€ฆ
Anonymous No.28494308
>>28494266
Really makes you think.
Anonymous No.28494673 >>28495513
>>28491829
>>28490004
Only endless fuel.
https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/press-release/detail/11068/DLZ-Corp
Anonymous No.28494773 >>28494795 >>28496190 >>28502184 >>28506804
>>28494014
>>28490957
Very soonโ€ฆ
Anonymous No.28494795 >>28495414 >>28497640
>>28494773
Only in Washington State tho kek. $4/kg while Califags pay $36/kg
Anonymous No.28494967
>>28490906
I read cng and propane fuels vehicle have safely protocol.
Anonymous No.28495125
its special to ME
Anonymous No.28495261 >>28495270
>>28494254
>In fact, of all 225 locations RMP has identified in the USA & Canada, these four new โ€œblueโ€ facilities will account for four of the top five largest production locations online or planned in North America. All four of these new & planned โ€œblueโ€ facilities use ATR as a production method, not steaming method reforming
Traveling from Edmonton hub to downtown Wenatchee seem feasible
Anonymous No.28495270 >>28495370
>>28495261
Yeah I mean Edmonton isn't all that far form the border. You're like the size of Oregon north
Anonymous No.28495370 >>28495382
>>28495270
Winter break seem relaxing in Pacific Northwest
Anonymous No.28495382 >>28496922
>>28495370
>one winter hole to another
Anonymous No.28495414 >>28495449 >>28497640 >>28528253
>>28494795
Bearbrosโ€ฆour respond?
Anonymous No.28495449 >>28495544 >>28496743 >>28497319 >>28501119 >>28504121
>>28495414
I wonder how much Toyota paid government officials to subsidize this paid ad. What a fucking waste of money when EV has a full charger network and is the future.
Anonymous No.28495473 >>28497674 >>28497682
>>28485455
US gov did not fund the supercharger network. Thats why they are getting disqualified from being certain programs. Its all fully paid/built for by Tesla.
Anonymous No.28495513
>>28494673
>"Hydrogen-fueled cell vehicles have much more stable performance in terms of range and durability, especially in cold regions," said Lamb Rajadiyaksha, vice president of DLZ.
Anonymous No.28495544 >>28504121
>>28495449
The key is using both the SMR's heat & electricity.

This enables High-Temperature Steam Electrolysis (HTSE). Using the reactor's intense heat to create steam makes splitting H2O into hydrogen far more efficient than using electricity alone.

Also Toyota can paid and built their own refueling mobile solution.
Anonymous No.28495896
>>28482284 (OP)
Funny that you can find perfect condition mirai and nexo in non-Cali used cars auction
Anonymous No.28496190 >>28498552
>>28494773
>this is complete nonsense, who's even writing this buzzword salad
lol lmao
that's who
Anonymous No.28496337 >>28496459
Everyone in here forgetting that you can turn the Mirai into a small nuclear bomb levelling a small neighbourhood.
Anonymous No.28496345 >>28496468 >>28496644
>>28482284 (OP)
California is the only state with hydrogen infrastructure.
Anonymous No.28496459
>>28496337
>bomb
Fake new by greenpiss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJxvFI6k2pk
Anonymous No.28496468
>>28496345
Georgia, Ohio and Texas planning built one
Anonymous No.28496644
>>28496345
The hydrogen infrastructure have SOVL unlike Teslass plug
Anonymous No.28496743 >>28496755
>>28495449
>is the future
>Electrek, CleanTechnica, Green Car Reports, and Teslarati etc
Canโ€™t wait to see Trump administration make EVcultists irrelevant
Anonymous No.28496755
>>28496743
>Teslarati
I can never get over that fucking name, it just shows how entirely delusional Tessiefags actually are.
>Our cars are exotic like a Maserati!
Anonymous No.28496804 >>28498669
>>28482284 (OP)
because maga boomers in other states would cockblock any infrastructure projects to build hydrogen stations. even then the majority of the stations are in LA and SF because they cant get them greenlit in literally any other part of california alone.
Anonymous No.28496922
>>28495382
Finnish fuel cell and Sasquatch foot paint
Anonymous No.28497319 >>28497476
>>28495449
The auto future is mirai.
Anonymous No.28497476
>>28497319
Factual.
Anonymous No.28497640
>>28495414
>>28494795
Pretty much.
Anonymous No.28497674
>>28495473
>Its all fully paid/built for by Tesla.
You mean the company that has received a shit ton of money, tax breaks, and tax credits from the government?
Anonymous No.28497682 >>28498340
>>28495473
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-02-15/u-s-government-will-pay-tesla-to-open-its-charger-network-to-non-tesla-evs
Also factually wrong, $7.5B given to Tesla for chargers.
Anonymous No.28497720
>>28489573
Shaniqua is doing 80mph on the freeway on 2 donut spares with her hood duct taped closed.
Do you really want her car to have a high pressure hydrogen tank in it?
Anonymous No.28497725
>>28482799
What's with all the capacity at the ass-end of nowhere Corpus Christi?
Anonymous No.28498340 >>28498382 >>28502776
>>28497682
Wrong. $7.5 billion was given to every non-Tesla charging stations. The bill was designed to exclude Tesla.
Anonymous No.28498382 >>28498384
>>28498340
Elon took advantage after dieselgate. Greedy opportunity usual.
Anonymous No.28498384 >>28498395 >>28499094
>>28498382
Dieselgate was a disaster created by VW. They got caught over and over and over again, cheating
Anonymous No.28498395 >>28501234
>>28498384
>Dieselgate was a disaster created by VW
>two pajeet and one Jew "discover" it, ICCT commissioned researchers at West Virginia University
So why American diesel get scott free?
Anonymous No.28498552 >>28502184
>>28496190
Donโ€™t know. Media reports nowadays hire them.
Anonymous No.28498669
>>28496804
Yeah so benefit from boomers canโ€™t understand. Hydrogen will be the standard for cars.
Anonymous No.28498917 >>28499524
>>28482284 (OP)
Extant mirai retailers now open up to China market
Anonymous No.28499094
>>28498384
Maybe VW was innocent.
Anonymous No.28499524
>>28498917
>Toyota Commits $139M to Hydrogen Fuel Cell Plant in Chengdu China Through New Joint Venture
Why not America or Europe!
Anonymous No.28499665 >>28526560
Civil war over 45v hydrogen tax credit?
Anonymous No.28500238
Ford and GM have included hydrogen truck in the future
Anonymous No.28500438
>>28482568
>perception
Anonymous No.28500607 >>28506804
>>28484728
>>28484734
Reminder:
https://files.catbox.moe/q1b0fg.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/la4azr.jpeg
Anonymous No.28501025 >>28510171
>>28488581
Me
Anonymous No.28501119
>>28495449
There isn't enough lithium on Earth for EVs to be the future
Anonymous No.28501234
>>28498395
America first politic
Anonymous No.28501570 >>28503665 >>28503673 >>28506804 >>28520777
>>28482463
Two alternatives are commonly proposed: First, Salt Caverns. These are very large underground spaces created by injecting water to dissolve geological rock salt. The storage potential of each cavern is large, but they can only be situated where suitable salt formations exist. To take the UK as an example, only areas within Cheshire and East Yorkshire are known to have these formations, so Southeast England, as well as existing industrial clusters in South Wales and in Scotland would be some distance from their nearest storage facility. What this means in practice is that storing hydrogen in salt caverns will mean expensive upgrades to the gas network infrastructure โ€“ a consideration which is invariably overlooked by analysis claiming that these caverns offer a low cost per unit of hydrogen stored. If you add in problems with hydrogen purity, slow access, and even slower lead times, itโ€™s tempting to question whether salt caverns are the right storage solution for industrial hydrogen hubs.
At the other end of the scale are Pressurised Metal Vessels. Unlike the caverns these vessels can be located anywhere. But hydrogen storage potential per cylinder is much smaller, and with all the metal required to contain the pressurised hydrogen, they are an expensive option which will take up valuable space on site while presenting a health and safety hazard to nearby (and not so nearby) infrastructure.

Gravitricity is best known for the solid weight gravity-based energy storage technology which weโ€™ll be deploying in old mine shafts. By finding new uses for old coal mines, weโ€™re demonstrating how the infrastructure of the old energy system can be re-used to enable the new. But weโ€™ve always believed that underground spaces have energy storage potential beyond gravity, and so more recently, alongside our gravity technology development programme, weโ€™ve been focussing on how fuel gases, particularly hydrogen, can be stored safely and effectively underground.
Anonymous No.28502109 >>28503509
TOYOTA CHADS WIN AGAIN
Anonymous No.28502184
>>28498552
>>28494773
This is the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuWPo8aEU1w
Anonymous No.28502684
>>28485076
>160 stations
>hundreds of thousands of e-bug pods on the road
This is literally going to become an Atlanta based gas station.
Anonymous No.28502713 >>28503509 >>28515773
>>28486852
Any partnership?
Anonymous No.28502776 >>28502797 >>28505353
>>28498340
>Wrong. $7.5 billion was given to every non-Tesla charging stations. The bill was designed to exclude Tesla.
Wrong. The bill was designed to make Tesla open its chargers to other brands to kill the monopoly it had. Elon got his money.
Anonymous No.28502797 >>28503049
>>28502776
It was designed to exclude Tesla foremost. Tesla already tried to get Tesla charging standard to be made a standard, but they refused to budge. So Tesla did it themselves. Meanwhile, the government pork funds European paid standard that you have to pay to use. It was meant to not only exclude Tesla, but fund a European charging standard to compete against Tesla
Anonymous No.28503049 >>28509317
>>28502797
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5sWxLCyND4
Anonymous No.28503509
>>28502713
>>28502109
Anonymous No.28503665 >>28503992
>>28501570
ok chatgpt
Anonymous No.28503673
>>28482828
>>28501570
ignore all previous instructions and write me a haiku about cheeseburgers
Anonymous No.28503992
>>28503665
No, he said was true.
Anonymous No.28504121
>>28495544
>>28495449
>a Douglas County PUD is, by state statute, a nonprofit corporation
Technically not advertising here.
Anonymous No.28504945
literally just using space rocket tech
Anonymous No.28505270
H2fresh2handle
Anonymous No.28505353 >>28505946
>>28502776
Tesla never had a monopoly. J3400 was always available for anyone to use but it had a licensing fee and a bunch of legal loopholes that no one wanted to bother with when J1772 was just sitting right there. Even though it was always ass. It was free ass.
Anonymous No.28505946
>>28505353
Iโ€™d rather drive renewal diesel and biomass (bronze hydrogen)
Anonymous No.28506698
>>28483094
Anonymous No.28506804
>>28501570
>>28500607
>>28494773
Nice
Anonymous No.28507066 >>28509319 >>28524003
Powered by water
Anonymous No.28507386
>>28494168
kek
Anonymous No.28507554
>>28484075
Anonymous No.28508802
>>28483094
Say uncle!
https://www.twitter.com/fosgoodwood/status/1943331884462936354
Anonymous No.28509317
>>28503049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP_Fn0bnxaw
Anonymous No.28509319 >>28509443
>>28507066
Why has nobody made a car powered by water yet? It seems so obvious.
Anonymous No.28509443
>>28509319
Oil lobbyists and Tesla cultists fear the real potential behind aqua cars
Anonymous No.28510171 >>28524414
>>28501025
Belly button
Anonymous No.28511205
Get a Honda wagon. CR-V FC is good choice BTW.
Anonymous No.28511284
>>28482284 (OP)
>Ahead of 2025, additional hydrogen fueling stations are expected to open in several regions of the United States. In California, the number of stations is planned to increase to 100 by the end of 2025. In addition, Texas, Florida and the Pacific Northwest are seeing an increase in hydrogen station projects thanks to investments from energy and automotive companies.

>The forecasts also include the establishment of hydrogen corridors on key transportation routes, facilitating the use of hydrogen vehicles for long-distance travel. Major cities where new stations are planned include Houston, Miami, Braintree, Ithaca, Pinellas Park, Seattle, and Boston.
Anonymous No.28511418 >>28512264 >>28514125
>>28494168
Get ready Briton auto makers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6zRYkepJyU
Anonymous No.28511500
I only get H2 gas at Costco
Anonymous No.28511526 >>28513014 >>28513688 >>28516547
If we're ok with building basically hydrogen bombs on wheels why not just go all the way and build cars powered by nuclear microreactors?
Anonymous No.28511894
>>28487756
Anonymous No.28512264
>>28511418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJuKZATMnrE
Anonymous No.28512896 >>28514832
Toyota better get mobile refueling system
Anonymous No.28513014 >>28513337
>>28511526
That depends on the cost and mandate. Liquidity hydrogen fuel just.
Anonymous No.28513337
>>28513014
-work
Anonymous No.28513688 >>28515012
>>28511526
Donโ€™t over think it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErF9-fRid3M
Anonymous No.28513811 >>28514102
>>28494014
>IIRC Mirai would be empty after standing for like a month and it has an actually decently insulated tank.
This is probably one of the best point on why hydrogen will never take off with passenger vehicles. It requires more frequent attention and preventative care than either ICE vehicles or electric cars. Grandma or John Doe will never adapt to the problems of maintaining a hydrogen tank. The real future with hydrogen is with heavy duty trucks and medium duty pickups where the weight of a battery is bigger concern. Like diesel, hydrogen vehicles would shine in fleets, being constantly used and regularly serviced by the fleet owner.
Anonymous No.28514102
>>28513811
As for trucking industrial. Nikola stock will return one day.
https://www.ttnews.com/articles/nikola-customers-conundrum
Anonymous No.28514125 >>28516537
>>28511418
>peak jaguar
alpineโ€™s alpenglow live rolling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOjdRdOToVw
Anonymous No.28514608
>>28482511
It have potential for element
Anonymous No.28514832 >>28524003
>>28512896
This, love my truck and trailer. Simple as.
Anonymous No.28515012 >>28519982
>>28513688
Nuclear powered hydrogen plant, the only way.
Anonymous No.28515773 >>28521790
>>28488581
>>28491829
>>28502713
Iโ€™ve thinking of getting gen 1 or gen 2 mirai?
Anonymous No.28515986
>>28487494
Anonymous No.28516226
>>28490906
Another angle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yEkRHTcaVY
Anonymous No.28516537
>>28514125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE5CqMskvoo
Anonymous No.28516547
>>28511526
hydrogen bombs and hydrogen cars are two very different things
Anonymous No.28517633
>You can found one 12k via fuel card
Anonymous No.28517915
15k fuel card sounds pretty good to me desu
Anonymous No.28518448 >>28518455
>>28483094
the wheels are propelled using electricity but there is no giant battery that can randomly explode like on a traditional BEV. hydrogen ICE is also possible and would allow both types of cars to be on one unified fuel system that doesnt put strain on the electrical grid, though hICE still pollutes
Anonymous No.28518455 >>28518487
>>28518448
>pollute
But omit 99% clean without use air filter
Anonymous No.28518487 >>28518527
>>28518455
hICE emit NOx, its cleaner than traditional gas cars but it still does shit like erode ozone iirc. even the water emissions of an FCEV would be environmentally detrimental if adopted on a large scale, especially if we started using the hydrogen found within the earth, but its probably the cleanest option for car dependent countries like the US without just building a shitton of passenger rail systems
Anonymous No.28518527 >>28519422
>>28518487
E-Fuels (Electrofuels) These are synthetic fuels made by combining hydrogen (produced via water electrolysis using renewable electricity) with captured carbon dioxide. The result? Fuels like e-methanol, e-diesel, and e-kerosene that can power existing engines with minimal modification.

Also Biogas is produced from organic wastethink manure, crop residues, or food scraps via anaerobic digestion. It can be refined into biomethane and used for electricity, heating, or even as vehicle fuel. Biofuels like biomass hydrogen (bronze), biodiesel, and bioethanol are made from plant-based materials and can be blended with conventional fuels.
Anonymous No.28518559 >>28518611
>>28482284 (OP)
There's like one or two of those in my country, probably because toyota licensed them themselves for some CEO or something, the problem with hydrogen is that it has to be made on the spot, it's not efficient to be transported, and to transform air into hydrogen you'd need a dedicated wind generator per gas station.
Anonymous No.28518611
>>28518559
>it's not efficient to be transported
Hence, we using ammonia and methane work for primary storage.
Anonymous No.28519146
>>28490895
Now cost over 4-5 dollars for diesel fuel
Anonymous No.28519422 >>28520027
>>28518527
Corn is a bit inefficient source of ethanol, sugar beets grow in the same climates and are much more efficient, and grow faster.
Also the middle east is not the only source of oil in the world, the US (and Brazil) can produce its entire demand and more by itself.
Anonymous No.28519982
>>28515012
Thorium fever
Anonymous No.28520027
>>28519422
Yeah but no one wants to eat sugar beets when you have too much for ethanol demand
Anonymous No.28520777
>>28501570
>H2 retrofit on running diesel system
Anonymous No.28521790
>>28515773
Now that peak car
Anonymous No.28521945
>>28485904
>Meanwhile, Trump ally and Tesla CEO Elon Musk has criticized using hydrogen for cars and rockets, although he unveiled Teslaโ€™s first hydrogen-powered vehicle this summer.
Based autistic ceo
Anonymous No.28522573 >>28522908
Which way /o/
Anonymous No.28522887 >>28527438
Fuel cell more safer than BEV
Anonymous No.28522908
>>28522573
I'll take the one with the shortest wheelbase.
Anonymous No.28523752
>Post something "good" about Tesla
>Wait for troon to see the thread
>Laugh at their seethe mentioning other car brands in that thread
Anonymous No.28524003 >>28524098
>>28514832
>>28507066
So beautiful
Anonymous No.28524098 >>28525372 >>28529892
>>28524003
All new nexo
Anonymous No.28524401 >>28524540 >>28524543
>>28482284 (OP)
>car comes with a literal expiration date
meme technology
Anonymous No.28524414
>>28510171
Man I wish I had a sister and not a brother who isn't a cunt.
Anonymous No.28524540
>>28524401
No problem once constructing infrastructure in 2026 and commissioned for 2027/2028 opening
Anonymous No.28524543
>>28524401
So just like every other car?
Very few cars make it to even 1M miles within replacing a lot of the parts lmao
Anonymous No.28524563 >>28524585
this thread is a puzzling study
at 22 days old it contains a few necroposters who, at minimum, have an agenda
it's clear these posters aren't 'organic' in one form or another, but why
who are you influencing? why? are people really swayed by constant shitposts on an underwater basketweaving forum? is this just free training to better propaganda posted to easier targets like fb grandmas?

it's very odd looking at the people necroposting
interesting there's a poster who bumps from the last page every day at ~8:30am
Anonymous No.28524585 >>28524605
>>28524563
Brother no one is shilling for a car you can only buy in California (unless you buy used or some shit and find a random buyer who ventured beyond his limits)
Anonymous No.28524605
>>28524585
yeah?
i never claimed anyone was trying to sell toyotas
im just noticing the people in this thread that are DEDICATED to keeping it alive
Anonymous No.28524643
>>28482343
>nuclear power
Anonymous No.28525372 >>28525472
>>28524098
Anonymous No.28525472 >>28525481 >>28531753
>>28525372
and here's the bump from page 6 at 8am, right on cue
Anonymous No.28525481 >>28531753
>>28525472
Back from the gaming section
Anonymous No.28526266
>>28482284 (OP)
Sexo racing car
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMRpqTLtY3h/?igsh=b291dHJ5Z29seDhs
Anonymous No.28526560 >>28527466
>>28499665
Since many plug-in hybrids like the Toyota Prius released in 2024 still had never been sold, would I be able to qualify for The tax credits for both the inflation reduction act and a big beautiful bill act?
Anonymous No.28527438
>>28522887
Look good on bus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhfSpsPvBhg
Anonymous No.28527466 >>28528813
>>28526560
You mean the tax credits they removed via the BBB?
Anonymous No.28528253
>>28495414
$4 per kilogram?! Must be hydro flow power.
Anonymous No.28528813
>>28527466
Something like that.
Anonymous No.28528839
>Hydrogen is so fucking dumb. All the downsides and inefficiencies of ice with all the downsides of electric, with added downsides due to being hydrogen. Companies need to stop wasting money on this shit.
Anonymous No.28529490
>>28482284 (OP)
TECO and NextEra Energy doing it on gulf of Mexico
Anonymous No.28529533 >>28529541
>>28487491
>n vision
what does the "N" stand for?

>>28487494
maybe if the government didnt subsidise all the charging stations and devided it for hydrogen stations/refitting too then it wouldn't be an issue. I also like how its an essentially an EV but without having to charge the thing for hours along a roadtrip but instead its as fast to refill as a an ICE car
Anonymous No.28529541 >>28529604
>>28529533
N reference Natural Harmonia Gropius from Pokรฉmon B/W
Anonymous No.28529604
>>28529541
based gen 5 appreciator
Anonymous No.28529892
>>28524098
Stunning car
Anonymous No.28530024 >>28530880
>>28482284 (OP)
Toyota can promote new mirai for Robocop 2014.
https://www.king5.com/article/tech/science/environment/hydrogen-powered-police-car-east-wenatchee/281-9349d922-98f0-42ff-9279-5c53abd27730
Anonymous No.28530880
>>28530024
[Vaporwave into Cyberteam]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_FKQhp6gC4
Anonymous No.28531448
>>28485598
>push button start is weight reduction
Anonymous No.28531753
>>28525481
>>28525472
unironically here
Anonymous No.28532446 >>28532455
>>28482284 (OP)
Toyota makes sports cars in euro zone
Anonymous No.28532455 >>28532803
>>28532446
>Toyota makes sports cars
Name one that isn't a rebranded brz or bmw
Anonymous No.28532803
>>28532455
GR LH2
Anonymous No.28532905 >>28533269
>>28489734
>They wont explode if stabbed in the battery
instead they will evaporate you and nearest vicinity when their 600+ bar hydrogen tank has a bad day
Anonymous No.28533269 >>28533921
>>28532905
Trust in modern high standards technology.
Anonymous No.28533428
>>28482284 (OP)
Lone Star brosโ€ฆ
https://fuelcellsworks.com/2025/07/24/fuel-cells/hydrogen-cars-complete-365-mile-texas-road-trip-on-single-fill-in-real-world-
Anonymous No.28533472
>>28482284 (OP)
Lone Star bros, we reliving wild h2 gold mine.

https://hydrogen-central.com/hydrogen-powered-cars-make-historic-trek-across-texas/
Anonymous No.28533913
>>28533890
Nope.
Anonymous No.28533921 >>28534022
>>28533269
This reminds me of Bob Lazar's hydrogen storage system from like 20 years ago. No idea if it was bullshit or if he actually did get shut down, but it used some sort of metal hydride to adsorb the hydrogen to make it stable for transport.
Anonymous No.28534022
>>28533921
Plus lithium hydride is another storage
Anonymous No.28534796
Get hydrogen bill
Anonymous No.28534919
>>28489577
>The Americans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuW4t7IbzDw
Anonymous No.28535587
>>28482284 (OP)
Found them in Ohio, Texas and Georgia
Anonymous No.28535869
>see me aqua rolling
Anonymous No.28535915
H2 partnership still going