Thread 28492348

Why do midwits love ABS so much?
>hurr durr I dunno how to pump the brakes

>>28492348 (OP)
cause your a fag and your shits all retarded

Garbage thread
Garbage OP
Garbage ragebait

>>28492367
Could be worse, like tranime

>>28492348 (OP)
sorry but science proved that 99.9999% of drivers are not capable of braking better than ABS does, factor in people panicing in the moment and any gain being marginal its objectively better

>>28492545
I believe the actual statistic is like 99.96%

I daily drive a car without ABS.
The only thing I like about it, is that the bite point is well tuned, meaning you have a lot of control on if you are locking the wheels or not. But its still not that comfy to need to pump brake on ice, while trying to steer in between the pumps.

>>28492348 (OP)
YOU OF SEEING IVAN
WHEN YOU MAKE BRAKE WEAK YOU DONT NEED ABS FOR LACK OF BRAKING POWER

>>28492348 (OP)
retard you have one (1) brake pedal to operate all four brakes. each wheel has its own braking threshold which you cannot individually control yourself (braking force distribution is set). the abs system CAN provide close to the maximum braking force for each wheel individually.

your argument would only be valid if you had four brake pedals to control each wheel individually, similar to a motorcycle where a rider CAN operate each brake individually and thus doesn't need abs

retard

>>28492576
You're not suppose to literally pump it like a bicycle tire pump. Its more of a "pulse" where when it locks/starts to lock you release a minute amount of pressure then reapply.

>>28492583
Anyone riding on the street should be using ABS on a motorcycle. Track bikes are a different story, just for the convenience of frequent fluid flushes if nothing else.

>>28492543
trvth

threads with tranime op pics are always garbage

>>28492543
EV shit is worse
Or that Commie sympathizer

>>28492348 (OP)
You can beat ABS in perfect conditions.
However, I swapped a BMW M3 ABS on my track car because it's safer.
It's for when you overcook a braking zone.
Or bomb a corner trail braking like a mad man and over do it
ABS kicks off in the rear, keeps me from going off track.
Like a safety net.

I don't activate it much, but when I do; it's a OPS movement.

>>28492348 (OP)
>mfw abs pump is defective and no recall was ever issued
>drove without abs for over a decade
I kinda learned how to threshold brake after a while. Somehow the heat spots have not been detrimental to braking performance.

>>28492923
>panicking retard that can't judge road conditions

>>28493294
no retard, only theoretically.
only if all four tyres had the same grip level/brake threshold, which is almost never the case (weight transfer, minute differences in asphalt condition, etc.)

>>28492348 (OP)
Go try car without ABS on winter icy road, fully press down the brake pedal until the car stops. See how long you car slides until it finally stops. Then do the same with car that does have ABS and see how the car with ABS will stop in shorter distance than non ABS car. Then come to talk again.

>>28494885
>tyres

>>28494978
>retard dialect

>>28494885
>Panicking
That's generally what happens when a deer rockets out of the treeline.

>>28495178
Exactly.

>>28494885
>Tyres.
UK poster spotted because only UK people use word "tyres". We Americans and most of others use word "tires".

>>28495210
>UK people
>people

>>28494885
I can beat the ABS in a straight line at the track.
Idk why sub 100 IQ people start seething when I say that.
It's simple, ABS will NEVER NEVER EVER use 100% of the tire's grip ever.
It's designed to allow a driver some control over the car to turn when the system activates.
Usually 90-92% of the tires grip is used or braking, the rest for turning.
I can use 100% of the tire under braking at a smooth track.
G forces are 1.3-1.32Gs
ABS braking hovers around 1.2-1.23Gs

That being said ABS is still faster on a track. It is able to pull pressure from rear tires or just 1 corner while trail braking.
That's something that a driver with one foot cannot do.

>>28492348 (OP)
>I want my wheels to lock up and slide the car into a retard that pulled in front of me

>>28494897
Most ABS systems don't work for shit in the snow and ice.

>>28495210
>People

>>28495312
anti-lock braking system system

>>28495288
my car's ABS ended up just being the tyres having more grip than the stock brakes' stopping power, it was pretty fun being able to stomp the pedal down to the very end of its travel, the entire car would nosedive like crazy, but the wheels never locked up.

i fucking hate modern cars bros

>>28492543
I have never watched tranime in my life but i like some of the gifs and reaction pictures, when theyre not related to pedophilia

>>28495285
>I can use 100% of the tire under braking at a smooth track.
agreed, on a smooth track with no banking or height differences and perfectly identical asphalt

>That being said ABS is still faster on a track. It is able to pull pressure from rear tires or just 1 corner while trail braking.
>That's something that a driver with one foot cannot do.
is exactly what I'm saying that and a concept retard OP doesn't grasp

>>28495210
>only UK
Irish, Australians, Kiwis, South Africans.

Pumping the brakes is worse than ABS. You want to threshold brake, where you hold it right where you can feel it's about to lock. Problem is that speed and brake temp change the threshold and one wheel usually locks up first (esp if there's weight shift) so the threshold is a constantly moving target. It's not some point in the brake pedal you can just put into muscle memory.
t. only tracked without ABS, driven 15 years without it, ABS fuse pulled to this day.
ABS is amazing, I just wish it didn't have to come with traction and stability control in most cars from the last 20 years.

The machine does a a better job than me especially when the road is wet and shiny

>>28492348 (OP)
Nah, smug midwits hate ABS. Dumb drivers are scared of skidding ahead, smart ones are humble enough to know their limitations. The case where you could be right is with bikes.

>>28492545
It's because we keep adding assists that take away the need to have any skill so of course most people can't threshold brake or have any throttle control.

>>28495717
I know that feel

>>28492348 (OP)
ABS is for panic stops, and saves lives. but during daily driving your abs shouldn't need to activate.

>>28496813
Even on track the ABS shouldn’t be interfering if you’re driving properly

>>28492348 (OP)
I pumped your mom's "brakes" with my third "foot", if You can understand my meaning?

>>28496814
Lmao get a load of this slowfag.
If ur ABS isn't activating on track you're starting too soon. And it does get in the way of trail braking as well as have an extended braking zone over a proper on the limit and smooth manual braking. Abs works by pulsing the brakes when it detects a lock so half the power gets wasted. It also mutes your release point, the most important part of a braking zone.

>>28496973
try driving actual performance cars instead of grocery getters lol

>>28496977
Kek at least graduate from the short bus. go ahead and stay slow.

>>28496980
I drive sub 7min BTG irl.
what about you, civic chud?

>>28492348 (OP)
You drive baby car made for baby drivers
End of the bait

>>28496993
You drive an MG? So that's 7 minutes for what, to get to 60?

Either way bread on hood.

>>28492642
Yes, but then you underbrake anon. Nevermind that you need to overbrake and lock the wheel to get a feel for where the bite point is on the other edge.
>pump it like a bicycle tire pump
Yes, you are.
This defeats partial brake line failure, and reservoir leaks and you losing power braking. Then minimize the movement after getting the max pressure, which means you can only pressure it down 1/3 of the way.

>Its more of a "pulse" where when it locks/starts to lock you release a minute amount of pressure then reapply.
That is what ABS do and ABS relies on power braking. And ABS bruteforces it, where its only limited by the number of sensor pulses on the ABS crown part.
Meanwhile without ABS the procedure is:
1. PUMP!
2. Find bite point, and pray you get enough steering that you don't risk starting to swerve

>>28495312
ABS works even better on ice, because it removes 2 skill issues on the driver side

>>28492581
2108. The bestest car out there. You can start it at -40 (You must warm up a carb and an air intake must be warmed up by a hair drier) and drive it away. 1.3 liter engine conserve fuel better than any other (russian) car.