why didn’t they catch on like gas-hybrids and BEVs?
they provide superior mileage

Dieselgate killed them just as hybrids and BEVs were starting to become popular.
Many countries also have retarded vehicle tax laws that make hybrid diesels considerably less appealing.

>>28496661 (OP)
europe has a war on diesel these days

>>28496777
France has declared war on internal combustion.
They tax your ass for thinking about it.

>>28496782
As a nation with a well developed nuclear network and no oil reserves, it makes perfect sense.

>>28496661 (OP)
Diesels and electric motors both provide loads of torque down low (which is great for freight trains where diesel electrics are common), while a gasoline engine being better at higher RPM horsepower pairs better in passenger cars with the instant low end torque of the electric motor, where a more even powerband is better for street driving.

You don't want a diesel hybrid which has to run DPF and Adblue. Basically Euro6 was very harsh on low to mid mileage vehicles.

The bigger problem is that the Japanese successfully sold vehicles like the Prius and Insight with hybrid drivetrains, and even got some neat patents out of it.
And VAG sold the.... 1,2l TDI Jetta, mostly because their entire lineup is centered around making a very good 1,6l TDI engine that can somewhat comfortably entertain t he idea of going on the autobahn.
If VAG had made their Prius competitor and where a bit more serious, there would have been a diesel euro 5 hybrid to benchmark how good you can make fuel economy.

>>28496661 (OP)
Diesel hybrids are cool.

Still the best option for those who drive the most

edison is making diesel-electric semis.
they also have a pickup truck conversion kit in the works.

>>28496793
>>28496782
France and Sweden-Danmark leading the way to FCEV technology and give ICE new life

>>28496661 (OP)
Diesels are junk.
https://youtu.be/1A9d9LxLFjU?si=OQz5d5EN6BKqfQfL

>>28496661 (OP)
>1995-2015 diesel good
>2016-present diesel bad

>>28498397
This will be for tractors and big stuff, not cars.

>>28498402
BMWs are junk

>>28498402
in what way is the BMW N47 engine related to this thread dumb shill?
fuck you and your channel

>>28498409
Semi-transferred trucking already started.

https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/hydrofleets-hydrogen-logistics/8569632/

https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/afc-energy-slashes-hydrogen-fuel-cell-costs-by-85-a-diesel-killer-by-2026/8571249/

>>28498470
Yeah so not cars. EVs will be the standard for cars.

>>28498439
>diesel thread
>diesel engines not related
I mean, how dumb are you?

>>28498402
>>28498407
>>28498413
BMW i6 diesels are the only good diesels

>>28498479
>tranny car
What not renewable diesel passenger car or CNG alternative?

>>28498402
E-biker are pussy

>>28498490
Diesel is now in the ecojews bad books for whatever reason, Hydrogen is going to be too much fucking around for the average car user. Have you seen the big hose thing you have to attach to refuel?

>>28498533
Frozen nostril look comfy

>>28496661 (OP)
tricky, expensive aftertreatment and better base-engine efficiency where it matters

diesels run lean and have lower exhaust temperatures, which makes it hard to get the aftertreatment to working-temp before too much slips. ICE-off conditions won't help that. You'll have to waste some energy on exhaust heating here. The aftertreatment system is also pretty large and extremely expensive.

Diesel engines are not typically throttled so they have a much better efficiency at lower loads than gasoline engines. This means, of course, that the load point shifting ability the hybrid system grants won't do nearly as much as it does on a much simpler, cheaper gasser. You only get regenerative braking basically.

Fuel consumption of a diesel hybrid will still be better than that of a gasoline hybrid or a pure diesel, but not by enough to justify the extra cost in many cases. 48V hybrid systems aren't uncommon though (BMW uses those on its 2l diesels a lot, silently), and Mercedes does have plug-in diesel hybrids for those who do want to travel really long distances with the thing often.

>>28498407
pretty much

but this has a lot do with european oil refineries needing markets to dump their diesel into leading to diesel car promotion

>stop subsidizing diesel
>diesel cars go away
???

>>28500457
>but not by enough to justify the extra cost
I get that by talking in OEM shelf parts, you can buy any OEMs variant of their off shelf hardware. Including engine.
So that is a lie
A good lie
The cost isn't per part, but per part development

>>28497692
will fold within 5 years, probably sooner