I've been noticing a surprising number of these old Daimler-Chrysler minivans still on the road where I live. They're never in good condition, usually half the body has rusted away, the occupants are usually fat poor people so you know they don't take care of their shit, but they're still on the road 2+ decades later.

Is this the used car market's best kept secret? They must be bulletproof if they can soldier on through years of neglect. I found a 2002 with only 75k miles for $5000, and not a speck of rust. Impossible to find a deal like this nowadays.

>>28499223 (OP)
My culture (white trash) is not your costume
They're good but working on them makes you want to kill yourself. Opt for the models with timing chains and baby the transmission by coming to a total and full stop before shifting them (ALOT of wine moms do this)

You can find them as cheap as 800 dollars and all the parts are cheap due to Chrysler mix n match parts binnery

>>28499249
>coming to a total and full stop before shifting
This is "babying" the transmission? It makes me cringe when I'm riding with someone and they slam the car/truck into drive while it's still moving backwards.

>>28499223 (OP)
I used to know a guy who loved these. He said he would run them up to 300,000 miles. They came with a 3.3 or 3.8 liter engine. He specifically liked one of them, but I don't recall which.

>>28499282
If I remember, the 3.8 is the older pushrod one that they also put in early jk wranglers

>>28499223 (OP)
It's a cycle. Been seeing a lot of older model S teslas re-appear too, along with GMT800-900 trucks and various lex(uses)(ii)(??) from the early aughts:
>car is bought new and is driven
>car is sold as solid used car and is driven
>>path 1
>car passes to nogs/children and dies
>>path 2
>car sits in original or second owner's garage for 15 years
>car is sold to boomers in "the know"
>car is also passed down to nogs/children and dies
What you're seeing is path 2 happening in real time
There's also a "path 3" which results in the first/second owner keeping the car 'till nursing home or death, we're seeing this now with 70's-80's cars. At least by the point of path 3 they're collectable and don't really get passed down to children/nogs unless they're old soul children or tasteful blacks. Anyways, you'll see chrysler minivans in auto museums in your lifetime, least you'll know why they're there and how they survived.

>>28499223 (OP)
>best kept secret
Have you looked at van prices of any kind? They do not correlate well to anything resembling a deal because Paco and Brenda both eat up the market for work vans and family shit.

>>28499223 (OP)
Mexican co-worker has one. Shot clearcoat and shot headliner but everything is functional at 200k with minimal repairs; just EGR, bushings, and shocks
So I suppose you are. No idea what makes these things bulletproof as opposed to the electrical nightmares that are the cloud cars of the same era

>>28499223 (OP)
>Daimler
That's your answer right there bub...

>>28499223 (OP)
i grew up in a dodge grand caravan lol.

>>28499223 (OP)
they're going off the road at an alarming rate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNCrjogLvik

chrysler vans are pretty good, its the only car they make anymore

>trannyverse FF turdmobile

MOGGED by the superior Townace.

>>28499980
Explains why you type like a retard.

>>28499570
>So I suppose you are. No idea what makes these things bulletproof as opposed to the electrical nightmares that are the cloud cars of the same era
They don't produce enough power to break anything.

>>28499282
300k is easy for either of those engines, it's the transmission that always shits out early. Or rust.

>>28499390
Nah, the 3.3 and 3.8 are the same cleansheet design in different displacements, IIRC. Developed pretty much specifically for the minivans to replace the older I4 and the less than stellar Mitsubishi 3.0.

>>28499223 (OP)
anyone have the screencap of the anon that used a handheld air horn because his caravan's horn was broken?

>>28501529
>I have used it in anger
Fucking love that post

>>28499390
It was, and it was dogshit slow but ultra reliable and basically a living fossil as a pushrod V6 in the year 2011.

>>28499223 (OP)
My family had two of them, a 2005 Caravan, and a 2007 Town & Country. Neither of them got any maintenance because my dad is incapable of maintaining any vehicle whatsoever, so I got to watch in real time, growing up, as they both fell apart. The Caravan never had working ac, parts rusted off of it, and by the time some idiot backed it into a tree and blew out the back window, the brakes were seizing up on it pretty often. That engine would just not give up though.
(Also the idiot was me)
The Chrysler was a little bit different, it was the only thing we got from my mom's dad and stepmother both dying at the same time, because the van was in her dad's name and her stepmom's family legally could not take it from her like they took everything else. Sadly, her dad seemed to completely forget about the concept of oil changes on his way out of this world and even though I tried telling dad that the noise is the engine was making couldn't possibly be good, the original engine locked up shortly after we got it. It got a new one, but the new engine just didn't last very long, I'm not actually sure what did it in anymore but now all they have is a 2005 Grand Cherokee on its third engine and my Grandma's old 2012 impala, which was in good shape when we gave it to them five or so years ago, and it's already falling apart with a christmas tree dashboard.

In some strange way I suppose I can think my dad for teaching me all of the wrong things to do with cars, because now I am completely the opposite with my own maintenance. The driveshaft in my van seems to be bent, creating a strange vibration at higher speeds, so I just don't drive it anywhere near a highway. The fuel pump in my car failed on me just one time, so I got it home, parked it, and it will stay parked until I put a new one in.
The moment something goes wrong, I have to fix it. I just can't sit there and let a vehicle fall apart around me like the rest of my family seems completely willing to do.

>>28501698
Anyway, that's my experience with these potato shaped dodges. I guess the childhood memories of riding around in them so often gives me a soft spot for them, even though the Caravan is the sole reason I refuse to ride in anything that doesn't have working air conditioning. I have that choice now, and I never had a choice back then.
Oh yeah, I don't remember the Chrysler having much power, but whatever engine was in that caravan, maybe some sort of 3.6L V6, it could certainly move if you gave it all the onions.
I also remember drifting it around a corner or two near the end of its life because the only good tires were on the front, so if it was raining, and you took a turn a little bit too quick, the rear end would kick out. Fun!

>>28501698
same here,that's why i'm now slowly trying to fix up 20 years worth of neglect in my retard dad's shitbox

>>28499223 (OP)
That's me, i'm still driving this land barge. It sucks fuel like a drunk old man sucks alcohol, the tranny makes a bit of noise when shifting and the suspension squacks a lot due to rotten bushings but it really makes the job. The engine was rebuild in 2018 and i only been making oil changes since then.

>>28499223 (OP)
I've seen a couple around here converted into trucks. A sawzall and a afternoon and you got yourself a cheap Ridgeline or Maverick.

>>28502435
a-traktor aah caravan

>>28502474
you can say ass on this website

>>28502482
millennial ahh post

>>28502559
go back to DickDock

>>28502559
you fucking retarded faggot that no one likes , women wont even use you for money

>>28502565
I swear, zoomerspeak is the easiest form of bait these days.

>>28502570
nah bruh certified valid crashout no cap on gang big facts lying ahh

>>28499223 (OP)

The last of the old-school indestructible Chryslers, especially the pre-Pentastar ones. They ride nice, get surprisingly good fuel economy for their size, parts are everywhere and cheap, and they were designed so a sheet of plywood fits in the back. The only problem is that they are almost literally the least masculine car on the planet. It is impossible to look cool driving a minivan

>>28502603
>It is impossible to look cool driving a minivan
It's possible to sound cool driving a minivan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk_z5fT3b10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHbDc5rlm8A

>>28502606

Oh shit true, also let me add the caveat that it is technically possible to look cool driving a minivan if you're one of the sadistic monsters who build them into 11-second sleepers and then humiliate unsuspecting sports car drivers in front of their girlfriends

But then you're still only looking cool for a few seconds at a time and the rest of the time you're driving around in a minivan

>>28502603
>It is impossible to look cool driving a mini-ACK!

MOGGED by the superior Townace

>>28502629
>FR

Not a minivan

>>28502657
Is it a miniGODMACHINEvan then?

>>28502624
Man that looks like the one vid I saw many many years back, was he doing this uphill? I can't remember if it was this or previous gen boxy van.

>>28502603
confidence matters more than car choice with normies. had a few girls say they liked how i didnt care about what my car looked like, just how it worked (2nd gen awd sienna, plenty of ground clearance, can do some very mild offroading and can fit a matress in the back with plenty of headroom).

>>28501529
>>28501686

>>28505753

>>28502474
you have to be 18 to post here

>>28502624
Holy molly, i remember burning tires in my old man's 94 Plymouth voyager, those were the times.

>>28505753
FUcking kek, i still remember this.

>>28502482
That's what that shit means? God that's depressing.

>>28505753
oh man
https://archive.4plebs.org/o/thread/19367583/
>Also not very visible is ths steering wheel cover which went missing when the ignition system was replaced. Because it's skeletonized it looks like the car is stolen, a situation which once left me sitting on the curb in handcuffs explaining to the nice police officer that it is indeed my lawfully owned and registered vehicle.