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Has anyone actually seen one of these?

Yes.

>>28531709 (OP)
I see them all the time. My neighbor has one. It sounds like shit. Really popular with the mexicans for some reason

i've only seen one.

I've seen 3 black ones and 1 white one. I've seen more unique Hummer EVs than I have 400z's.

>>28531709 (OP)
Yes, mostly blue and yellow ones. If they were cheaper I would get one.

>>28531737
I've only seen them in cumwhite or black or indigenous paint of color. Always a mexican. And they sound like shit

>>28531709 (OP)
I've legitimately seen more Skyline GTRs in my shithole than i have 400z.

was this car a flop? why don't weebs like it.

>>28531741
Thanks for sharing.

>>28531749
This was meant for >>28531737

>>28531747
Thanks for sharing.

>>28531709 (OP)
I have a yellow one.
I've seen 1 blue one
I've seen 1 yellow one
I've seen 1 more blue one but I think it was the same one as before.

>>28531734
>>28531729
>>28531756
Thanks for sharing.

>>28531709 (OP)
I did, a nice blue one. However it was 1. Nissan can thank Nissan dealers being absolutely shit

>>28531709 (OP)
Someone imported one here in Poland

>>28531747
It is a flop, but slowly coming back as dealers are trying to get rid of them. We all may see more upcoming, but Nissan will probably never make any money from the Z.

>>28531762
Kek that looks fucking retarded godsDAMN

Thanks for sharing.

I've seen one of these rare mobs, they've only got a 2.5% drop rate for the [Gundanium Alloy] so I've got to farm some more to build that lvl 49 PvP armor.
>>28531762
That looks really nice, verdammt!

Thanks for sharing.

>>28531747
Its a flop because there is no cultural reference for the Z anymore. It costs ~$62,000 which puts it in line with the better sounding and faster Mustang, it was in contention with the Camaro, Challenger, Charger, nearly a Supra, and M2. All of which have more character, power, and charisma over the 400z. It should be $12-16k cheaper than it is to make it compelling over a Miata hard top, BRZ, and anything else within $5k and almost sporty. We used to have "tuner" cars there were cheap and a little sluggish, but with a few thousand over the first couple years of ownership you could make it pretty quick and fun.

Nissan put out a pretty car, but thats all it was.

>>28531779
LOL what about it looks nice? That gay as fuck splitter, the side skirts, the ugly as fuck ricey wheels, or the hilarious MONSTER TRUCK fuckin STILTS bmaooo0o0o0

Thanks for sharing.

>>28531790
The z is ugly THOUGH

>>28531779
Oh maybe it's that hilariously ricey DATSUN EUROPE decal bmaooo0o0o0


Thanks for sharing.

I'd get a miata or camaro, but I don't see the issue. $20 ain't what it used to be.
>'04 350Z Base
27k new
47k in 2025bux
>'25 400Z
43k new

>>28531798
Nah, its defintely not an ugly car. I can understand why people don't like it but I think its a design that will look pretty good in 10-20 years.

>>28531801
I actually like the decal.

>>28531807
It's fuckin ugly as fuck just look at >>28531762 bmaooo0o0o0

>>28531809
Of course you do you fucking ricelet bmaooo

>>28531709 (OP)
I have seen 3 so far.
>yellow z
driven by a greyed old man going 10 under the posted speed limit, looks like he is enjoying himself
>blue z
driven my a confused looking older white lady who doesn't seem to know what kind of car she's driving or even why she's getting stares when people drive by her
>white z
modded heavily and driven by an asian dude

>>28531812
It looks really good, and I don't even like Nissan. I'm sorry you're a brand fanboy.

>>28531816
Lol shit's ugly as fuck THOUGH see >>28531762
What brand are you even referring to? Datsun? That isn't even a company anymore bmaooo

>>28531820
Can you describe the parts you consider to be ugly?

>>28531709 (OP)
Have seen like 3 or 4 since launch
One of them was outside a nissan dealership so maybe doesn't count

>>28531823
The hilarious grille, the weird beak, the shape and position of the headlights, the ricey two-tone shit, the lines, the overall look, the fuckin hilariously HUGE fuckin MONSTER TRUCK fuckin STILTS
It just doesn't look elegant
It's esentially just pikachu origami bullshit

>>28531820
I've been looking at it. It looks really good. It even looks better in person, they're really small compared to most modern cars. You're a BMW fanboy, duh.

>>28531835
Oh yeah and the black or indigenous wheels of color

>>28531838
I've been looking at it. It looks really tacky. It even looka worse in person; they're really pikachu compares to moat modern cars. How am I a BMW fanboy if I think everything after the F10 is ugly eps-clad bullshit?

Look at those birthing hips.
Wishbone / multilink F/R.

>>28531823
Kek even more ugliness to describe here: >>28531855
The whole rear is ugly. That black plastic shit on the bumper. The taillights with more black shit. The fucking hilariously HUGE fuckin MONSTER TRUCK fuckin STILTS what the FUCK even is that bmaoooo0o0o0o0

>>28531866
If it upsets you that much then it must be doing something right.

>>28531790
>It costs ~$62,000
are you canadian or something?
you can get a brand new base Z for low $40k, maybe less if you bust their balls negotiating
$62k is NISMO territory

>>28531886
They aren't as ugly as 86s at least bmaooo

There's a white boomer at my church who has one. He's a nerd who only talks about really obscure theological shit lol

>>28531747
Nobody has money for a $40k+ sports car

>>28531806
>04 make 50k a year
85k in 2025 adjusted for inflation
Bet most people's wages didnt grow this hard.
>>28531993
Base Z doesnt even have a LSD, I would never consider that spec.

>>28532160
The 400Z costs less than thee 350Z when new, inflation adusted
>Bet most people's wages didnt grow this hard.
Sure, but that isn't unique to this car.
Other cars have raised in price over the last 20 years even considering inflation, the Z got cheaper.

>>28532160
>Base Z doesnt even have a LSD, I would never consider that spec.
obviously not, the base trim is not intended for wrenchlets

Doesn't the 400Z have the catastrophically bad 350/370Z engine that will grenade itself before 100k miles?

>>28531866
how attrocious, it has tail lights, and a bumper, and a wheel! you're right anon you've convinced me its uglier than you and nobody should ever consider buying one because of your opinion on nothing in specific.

>>28531709 (OP)
One single time. Same number of times I've seen a Dodge Hornet too

>>28532318
What an offensively stupid post. Retard.

>>28532318
That same VQ37 in my G37 that's currently at 170k? That one? No. Different engine.

>>28532333
No, apparently the internet is well aware the VQ37VHR and VQ35DE engines have basically predictable engine failures when you lean on them decently well. Low fuel pressure, oil starvation, heat issues, poor bearing materials.
>bUt MiNe Is At xXxk MiLeS!
yeah, just like the million mile dodges, some go the distance, most are dead. When's the last time you saw a clean 350 or 370z?

>>28532169
Post pics of you installing LSD in your car

>>28532502
He saves pics of toolboxes from craigslist and reposts them lol

>>28531716

Mexican in a 3rd world country, havent seen a single one of them in mexico... not in the of coahuila, tamaulipas or durango. Not even one for sale in facebook market place or at the nissan dealers.

>>28532502
People unironically will waste time buying an LSD and installing it instead of just spending a few thousand for an LSD and heated seats.

>>28532356
>>28532333
I very rarely take these engine blowing up scenarios without a grain of salt. I see too many people installing dollar store shit mods and asking questions like how to bleed their cooling system after doing a major upgrade. I see guys bouncing off the rev limiter and talking about tunes they bought from amazon or eBay. I change my oil at 4,000miles and do oil sampling. I will cross the bridge of a possible engine failure when/if it happens.

>>28531709 (OP)
why black wheels on a car? it never looks good

>>28532319
The black shit around the tallightaand on the bumper looks retarded.
It's not as ugly as an 86, but that hilariously HUGE wheel gap from the beancounter INSPIRED old-man-appeasing MONSTER TRUCK pikachu BULLSHIT on fuckin STILTS "look" is GAY as FUCK bmaooo0o0o0

>>28535014
>Bumps a thread 30+ hrs after last reply
Fuckin' A. Anyway, installing the factory LSD off a wrecked car is a hell of a lot cheaper than paying a full $10k more for the performance trim. You could probably buy the LSD and get a shop to install it for you for $700-1500, even cheaper if you diy.
Also heated seats are just ballast. I wish my car didn't have them.

>>28535035
I'm at a point in my life (30 years old) where I just don't care about screwing around anymore. I have friends that buy salvaged cars and import them and go through the hassle of paying cash for body work and then going through an inspection and repairing any mechanical defects. Dude, just pay the money and stop screwing around.

I still do all my own car maintenance because I have a shop but I am not installing 'performance' parts on a brand new sports car that I use as a daily driver.

>>28532160
>Base Z doesnt even have a LSD, I would never consider that spec.
a cusco lsd for the new z is only $1400, don't be wrenchlet.

>>28535035
Heated seats adds ounces, maybe a pound

>>28535042
>I'm 30 now so I have to look it. That means dismissing anything fun or interesting as "for children."
I'm 36 and I love playing around with machines as much today as 20 years ago.
You'd prefer to spend thousands of hours of work just to buy an appliance you don't even care much about when you could spend that money on living a better life? Bummer.

>>28535064
Tranny wrenchlets could never take advantage of this. 4 bolts and a lash check is pretty much a mission to Mars for a nu-male

>>28535077
Its mostly a confidence issue.
>oh god I sure hope I don't fuck up this really expensive and critical component of my preposterously expensive car!
changing the differential isn't exactly easy even if you do know what you're doing, and a pain trying to do it on the garage floor.

>>28535025
**african american*** wheels
Yuo stupid chud

>>28535144
Outdated terminology, it's black or indigenous wheels of color now

>>28531709 (OP)
Yes, with a very 70s black / orange stripe paint job. Not sure if that's factory but it looked pretty cool.

>>28531709 (OP)
The backs looks unbalanced to me. Looks good from all other angles. Anyways, Nissan looks like its about to die, RIP.

>>28535293
Maybe a rear wing could save it.

>>28535293
the performance and nismo trim come with a small spoiler

>>28535293
>>28535301
It took a lot of styling cues for the back from every other Z car ever made with quite a bit from the 260z and 300zx. I happen to think the rear looks the best even in IRL. The wheel arches need a little changing, but its still a great looking car.

>>28531709 (OP)
Only at a Nissan dealership.

>>28535072
>be an adult
>make good money
>live in a small house with no real tools or lift/hoist (everything is at my work)
>come home from work and don't feel like spending my free time disassembling my new car to install a component and possibly running into an issue when all the parts stores are closed at 5pm

I'd rather just put in some overtime and buy the spec I want. If this was a cheapo second car that I purchased with the intent of upgrading it, I would be all over it. I just don't see the point in compromising my wants. Plus the warranty is a factor.

I see people in the forums with 2,000miles on their cars and they have upgraded the intakes, upgraded the coolers, upgraded the swaybars, glued carbon fiber trim pieces to their interiors, unplugged the oil pressure regulator because it's a possible failure point on older engines, tuned the car and fucked with the alignment. And then people are always posting dumb shit about the car running rough or not being reliable.

I trust the engineers in Japan more than the dude in Arkansas selling aftermarket parts.

>>28535980
I upgraded the turbos, charge coolers, oil cooler, sway bars, and thrust arm bearings, and replaced the shocks and springs with good coilovers on a car with a newly BUILT forged internal motor before I even broke it in. Then got that tune as soon as the engine was broken in. It runs great and is reliable enough for me to daily

>>28535980
I understand the perspective, 100%, and it's reasonable. It's just that you framed it as "I'm a real grownup now so I have to be boring" which I think is bullshit. That's why I replied.
I've seen too many people fall into being boring NPCs because they want to follow some prescribed "life script." I want life to be fun, within reason.
Also, 30 isn't old.

>>28535989
What about the one where self-proclaimed "enthusiasts" would NEVER modify a car, because they don't want to undo the old-man-appeasing beancounter ENGINEERING?

>>28531709 (OP)
Dealers killed this car on launch with 100%+ markups

>>28532356
>When's the last time you saw a clean 350 or 370z?
almost every day actually, but I have a nissan dealer right here so we have a higher concentration of nissan locally. in fact, when the dealer still sold Suzuki, we had the majority of the nations Suzuki Equators right here.

>>28536011
I think I would've doubted you had you not commented on the equator. I assume the 350 and 370s are there for repairs because nobody is buying a brand new $60k 400z?

>>28536027
I guess that's possible but I've always seen nice 350/370z in my area.

>>28536034
They just don't seem to exist in the US anymore: searching craigslist I get 1 match in manual and 1 match in automatic, the automatic is the infinity analogue. Whenever I do see them on the road they're either in mint condition with some actually good mods, or absolutely beat to shit because a 19 year old thrashed it and didn't have money to fix anything on it.

>>28535035
Then go ahead and find a wrecked nu-Z and scavenge the LSD off it

>>28535042
Bro I agree
I love watching automotive YouTube and live vicariously through others

Doing non-off-the-shelf mods seems like a HUGE ball ache. Body work? Fuck that. Spending hundreds or thousands of dollars in aesthetic upgrades that no one will notice?

I'm just getting old. I do love setting aside some time each year to do big maintenance jobs on my evo. Timing belt last Christmas. Braided lines and new slave cylinder probably next Christmas.

I love cars and tinkering, but stuffing around is a young man's game. Agreed that you should just work harder for a wage and buy something with less possibility of having zero return for a lot of time, and non trivial amounts of money

>>28535035
Nah I'm seeing more instances where getting the top trim is more cost effective than piecing it up diy. Don't forget that the top trim retains much better resale value. This doesn't matter with a $10k shitbox, but if you're fucking around with a $70k car now, it matters

>>28531709 (OP)
Good looking car. Are many parts interchangeable with the 350 and 370? Would be great to keep those old girls on the road longer with new parts availability.
To answer the question - only seen 3 or so in Sydney. They are way too expensive for what they are, but then again all new car prices are crazy now. Including for a Camry

>>28531709 (OP)
only ever seen a white one in the wild. allegedly a friend from way back has one, but i haven't kept in touch for over a decade so i can't confirm

>>28537041
>Are many parts interchangeable with the 350 and 370

yeah, but its stuff like the handbrake and door handles not engine parts

>>28536039
I live in the DFW area my guy. They're obviously not as common as US-made Camaros and Mustangs, but I see one on the road every other time I go out for groceries.
All the 350Zs I've seen but one were clapped to shit, but the vast majority of 370Zs in the area are relatively well-kept. A cursory search on the usual dealer aggregate sites will get you plenty of base model coupes/roadsters for less than $15k, and a sport touring with relatively low miles for around $20k. Nismos are still unreasonably expensive but everything else is rather fairly priced right now.
>>28537041
Just about everything that isn't part of the engine/transmission can be used relatively interchangeably. The shell of the new Z is literally just a slightly more rigid version of the 370z with slightly wider front wheels.

>>28531709 (OP)
i am not joking i see more lamborghinis and ferraris than i do these things. i might see 1 400z every month.

Does anyone know how reliable are the vr30 motors?

I daily mine, it's a fun car

>>28537041
>Expensive for what they are, but so are Camrys
I agree with both statements. I've had people say they couldn't justify a sports car for this price and the fuel price. But they drive a 2022 Pickup Truck 45 minutes to work everyday and pay more money in gas than I do.

>>28537550
>plastic steering wheel buttons
This might be the only 'cheap' feeling part of the car. The buttons don't feel great when you press them. I also can't figure out how the 3 position button works for PreviousSong-NextSong-Menu and the phone controls. It's one large button face.

>>28537077
Yesterday I went for a drive and saw 1 Zupra, 4 Corvettes (C7 I think), 1 Hellcat and 2 Newer Cobras (could have been fake badges, I dno, I'm not a Dodge/Ford guy). The day before that I saw 2 Ferraris and 2 Convertible Yellow Corvettes during my morning commute.

I get a lot of smiles, thumbs up, frantic head turns and people saying "nice car" at the gas station. It makes me feel special (my mom was right).

My spec only has 1 reverse light, so I get a lot of "hey buddy, your reverse light is out on the left side" after I park.

>>28537476
My q50 vr30 has made 400hp for nearly 2 years and now it's Z1 turbos making nearly 500hp awd for 7 months currently. I rip it every time I leave the house.

>>28537607
>plastic steering wheel buttons
>This might be the only 'cheap' feeling part of the car. The buttons don't feel great when you press them. I also can't figure out how the 3 position button works for PreviousSong-NextSong-Menu and the phone controls. It's one large button face.
agreed, the buttons in my GR86 felt better than them, on the phone controls i wish they were 3 seperate buttons but sorta have gotten use to rubbing my finger across it until im either on the corners or just push in the middle and pray for the Skip Forward

tempting car for me right now. nothing new really comes close in value with the factory discount

>>28537607
>My spec only has 1 reverse light, so I get a lot of "hey buddy, your reverse light is out on the left side" after I park.
What's there instead? Rear fog light, like in some Euro spec cars?

>>28537637
Yep. It's the Canada spec so it's very confusing. We are so used to not having rear fog lights except on expensive European import cars. I've had lots of people with Benzs ask why their brake light is out and I have to explain it's a REAR foglight and they need to turn off the fog lights during the day.

Single reverse light would be fine if it was like a mini cooper with it in the center. But only on one side looks like a defect.

Trunk storage is interesting in this car. The floor is so high that you need to push most stuff forward. I have a little fabric organizer with a cargo net over it to hold any groceries or small purchases.

>>28537654
have you had it through winter yet? what's the plan there. square setup 17/18s if they clear the brakes?

>>28537659
Haven't tried it in winter yet. We don't get much snow so it should be fine. Gonna buy a set of nice rims and get winter tires put on.

It's gonna suck though because I can't fit 4 tires in the trunk, so I gotta bring a second vehicle to pickup the 4 tires and bring them back to my house for storage. After that initial purchase I should be fine though. I can swap them out in my garage every season.

Saw this one at a Nissan dealership and 360 walked away

>>28538092
>360
You spun in a circle??

>>28538175
No he moonwalked you stupid newfag

>>28531709 (OP)
I lived in the LA area until January and only ever saw two in the wild. (Plus a couple at Nissan's Auto Show booth, but that doesn't count.) Not sure why they're so insanely rare.

>>28538092
is the badge off center? or am i just imagining it

>>28538092
>image I found on google and used in another thread
>i saw
fuck off cunt

>>28538232
he's posted it in like 5 different threads at this point, must be a supra owner or poorfag

>>28537476
>Does anyone know how reliable are the vr30 motors?
Well, I haven't been stranded by it. The motors usually blow up due to low oil pressure, so keeping these filled with oil is a must and probably with a heavier weight than 0w-20 if you live in a hot climate and plan to push the car hard.
Older Infiniti VR30's had turbo seal failures and porous block. For the 2016-2018 Infiniti VR30's, they have an extended warranty on the turbos now for those model years only. Though, I seen a guy get 200k miles with a 2017 Q50 that has the original engine and turbos while also being tuned.
The Nissan Z VR30 has upgrades over the Infiniti like having a more secure smooth idler pulley and a bigger oem heat exchanger (though probably should upgrade too)

>>28538242
low oil pressure is primarily caused by the engine oil pressure control solenoid. they tend to fail in low pressure mode and people unwittingly drive the car at high rpm making sub 25psi. by the time you see a p0524 code, it's too late. you can unplug them and they default to high mode but throw a p06da and p06db but can be masked in tune.

the porous block issue has been more closely identified to 2 more specific causes. 1 issue AMS did a video on. the head casting leaks through a crack made close to the integrated exhaust manifold. usually originating from headbolt close to IEM. the 2nd issue is actually leaking coolant gallery plugs in the head. I sealed mine just in case with permatex high temp red thread sealer and new crush washers. that isn't to say there haven't been porous blocks but Infinitis modis operandi was "if there is coolant mixed in oil and the car passed a coolant system hydrocarbon test, replace engine under warranty" and then they declined much further investigation on the issue.

>>28536972
Nigga how are you going to find a wrecked one when nobody buys them in the first place

>>28537550
>Nevada
Uh oh we got a mormon cunny crushing rascal ova here

>>28538348
>Navada - Mormons
Are you thinking of Utah, maybe?

>>28538344
That's like
The point
Nigga

>>28537476
pretty damn reliable afaik

>>28537476
Just a smidgen less reliable than the VQ37VHR, so only almost indestructible.

>>28538396
Does it also need replacing oil gallery gaskets?

>>28538350
No I'm thinking of Idaho, Utah and Nevada as all members of what's called the Mormon belt

>>28538470
Just like with the VQ37VHR, any significant engine issues were fixed after the first year of production

>>28538264
>the engine oil pressure control solenoid
first off why is that a thing in a regular traffic engine like this? second of all, typical nissan engineering, just randomly do something unnecessary and do it poorly.

>>28538687
>first off why is that a thing in a regular traffic engine like this?
It just gives higher pressure when your engine needs it and low pressure when it doesn’t. Saves a marginal amount of fuel and other automakers do it too. A problem with the infiniti VR30 cars is that they don’t have way to monitor oil pressure without hooking up an oil pressure gauge or seeing parameters through Ecutek or anything to read from the Obd2.

>>28538700
it's even a bit deeper than that. the engine oil pressure control solenoid has no fail safe condition. if the p06da/db codes are popped, it doesn't throw a MIL. there is no consumer facing warning sign that it has failed except when the dash tells you that you've lost oil pressure. by then it's too late, engine toast. the new ecutek update coming out will have a feature to combat this. they haven't release exactly what parameters you can change though but tuners in the know have said that you can have oil pressure vs engine load as a monitored condition. if oil pressure doesn't match engine load then torque management is implemented. there may be timers and other axis they can program into the safety strategy but ATM that's all I know. the best option at this time is to unplug it and leave it at that.

>>28531709 (OP)
Yes. Much better in person.

>>28531855
It has nothing on 350Z's legendary-tier ba donka donk. Look at how round and spankable it is.

>>28538240
>>28538232
I took it myself at rusty wallace nissan in knoxville TN. I wanted to like the car but thats such a glaring in your face fuck up

>>28539422
I live 40 min from there. I need to see this in person lol.

>>28538918
I was driving in traffic today and got 2 thumbs up. People love this car.

This became my dream car when I saw it actually looked the same as the concept car photos. I love the front end and how it looks like something rendered on a 90s computer with sharp lines. I was never a big fan of the 'jelly bean' looking 350/370z era. The interiors were nice and I loved the shifter and rev matching feature they had.

I saw 2 more Zupras today and 1 McClaren.

The only things I don't like are:
1. The grill, it should've been trapezoidal instead of rectangular
2. Full digital gauge cluster with lazy design that just displays fake analog gauges

>>28541922
>1. The grill, it should've been trapezoidal instead of rectangular
the 240 and 260z grills were rectangular. But yes, they could've done a little better on the front fascia.
>2. Full digital gauge cluster with lazy design that just displays fake analog gauges
It is and unfortunately thats a trend for ALL automakers. From the $30k budget cars to the $300k super cars.

I think the salesman that put cranberries into every fucking fruit juice tried to retire but the screen makers hired him to sell screens on every stupidass surface in the car.

>>28541898
>Reads like an ad
Auto rev matching belongs in a sequential only. But it is a modern sports car so some tolerance required. It looks nice enough that maybe I'll pick one up in 10-15 when it's one of the last options left.

>>28531709 (OP)
It's a flop and costs too much. They should make an even cheaper base version with an NA Engine. I mean both the 350Z and 370Z were NA as well.

>>28542480
You can just turn it off

>>28542606
Fully? Because I know a lot of those nannies will still kick in if you push hard enough. Off seems to be just the lowest setting.

>>28542649
Yes, it's on and off and it stays off if you disabled, unlike something like start-stop in lots of new cars

>>28542656
Nice. Yeah when that's about to hit classic I'll snatch one. Maybe.
Captcha:gay4g

things ugly just get a mustang

>>28542682
>>28542656
>>28542649
>>28542606
>auto rev match
I don't think I can go back to regular shifting after using it. I tried turning it off the other day and it just wasn't as smooth. Down shifting in traffic is way easier and more comfortable with the rev match feature. This is my daily driver and I wanted a manual and it's literally perfect for me. But yes you can turn it off and it stays off. I also love the fact that it tells you what gear it's in on the gauge cluster.

>>28542499
>cost too much
Just buy the 370z instead if you want the most bang for your buck

>>28542649
rev matching isn't a nanny and there's literally a button to turn it off

>>28543580
It literally is unless ur driving a sequential with only a launch clutch lever. You can add a little extra spice to your rotation if you purposely over or undercook your last rev match into a turn. Auto matching is meant for peaky over torqued race engines that will spin you out if you even think about changing gears while under load.

>>28543341
My wife's corolla has auto-revmatch and I never turn it off. Makes regular driving very smooth and you can downshift really quickly.
I can't get the hang of heel toe, especially when driving casually (not braking hard). I always end up stabbing the brakes.

>>28531709 (OP)
just 1

Can’t have a threesome in there

>>28539170
Those taillights are fucking hideous though.

>>28531747
Everyone was expecting a new platform but it was just a facelift

>>28545621
A beautiful facelift though. And if the platform doesn't have any issues, why mess with it?

I'm new to the Nissan platform, especially the Z lineup. Was there anything inherently bad about the last 15 years of this car? A lot of people just say "it wasn't updated, the interior looks the same too", but if you look in any modern car you will just see slop and screens everywhere. I think the Z looks great inside and literally every car has black plastic in it. The HVAC controls do look very budget, especially compared to the GR86 or any Kia from the last 10 years. It also makes zero sense on modern cars to remove the sunglasses holder and put a fucking SOS and Wrench button in their place. Who pushes the fucking Wrench button on their car? I'm assuming it calls a tow truck if you subscribed to their shitty app?
It's also weird that you don't get grab handles in the ceiling. I've had a few passengers reach for them and they awkwardly fall out of the car expecting to be grabbing that handle.

>>28545621
has a completely different engine though

>>28545763
and an even stiffer chassis, better automatic transmission, LSD that won't start to fail when it gets hot, and le ebin carplay/android auto

>>28531709 (OP)
I've seen three in my town. Supras are more common.

>>28545621
>>28545763
>Everyone was expecting a new platform but it was just a facelift
>has a completely different engine though
Journalists say it's the same car because it's an updated chassis and general "feel" of the car.
Random internet people think they mean it's LITERALLY the same car with the VQ engine. Worse, some people think VR30 is just the same VQ with turbos but it's an entirely a different engine.

my buddy has one and I've driven it. It's actually quite lovely to drive. I really like it. He plans on babying it and keeping it nice for many many years. I really like the spec he chose too. After driving it, I totally see this car in 5 years being acclaimed as LE SLEPT ON ICON YOU SHOULD'VE BOUGHT!!!!

>>28546361
>I really like the spec he chose too.
What spec is that?

>>28546427
Manual, Blue, Performance Trim. US Market.

That's what I can tell from the photo.

Do you guys think it would look better with a flat bottom steering wheel?

The steering wheel and shifter knob both feel like the leather will peel off easily in the next 10 years. I've seen some posts about the shifter peeling within 1-2 years.

>US Spec gets GPS
>Australian Spec gets folding mirrors
>Canadian Spec gets 1 reverse light only

Why is it all so different?

>>28546881
wow, what a "spec". Its the basic model. Wow.

>>28546913
No the sport is base model

>>28547028
performance trim. So it has gay shit that doesn't add to the performance? Nice. Don't care.

>>28547043
It has a lsd

>>28547043
>So it has gay shit that doesn't add to the performance?
It adds an LSD, bigger wheels, bigger brakes, and a rear spoiler. It looks special because of the blue trim but that’s just an option piece and not necessarily a special edition (idk if the bayside blue edition has that too)

>>28546881
>Canadian Spec gets 1 reverse light only
Are rear fog lights mandatory in Canada like in EU?

>>28547060
>LSD
only measurable performance on a track
>bigger wheels
oh yeah, rollin on dubs
>bigger brakes
Were the regular ones too small to be effective?
>rear spoiler
does nothing
>special blue trim
wow, a $4000 option for color on the interior. Crazy concept of charging insane money for anything not in greyscale.

So when he floors it all of that junk does nothing to separate it from a base model.

>>28546427
No-soul spec

>>28547064
Why are you so angry?

>>28547067
If you knew the things I knew, you'd be angry too.

>>28547072
And what do you know?

>>28547075
I know the Nissan Z is a bad, overpriced car.

>>28547083
And what isn't?

>>28541898
>Jelly bean style
>350z

Damn I can tell youre young, the 350z came out and broke the jelly bean trend. Before that you had the (literal) jelly bean Taurus and stupid bubble looking Camry. 350z started the sharp angles. Well that and the NVH was atrocious and rear tire wear on the outsides. Oh and the "no highs or lows it must be bose"

>>28531807
get some fucking taste you lame ass weeb

>>28547090
How about you taste my balls

>>28538229
You're not imaging it, that is why I took the picture. I couldn't believe what I was seeing lmao

>>28531709 (OP)
I've seen four of them in pretty rural areas. One dealership in North Dakota actually asked me to test drive it when I just wanted to sit in it, so I assume it must have been sitting around a while.

>>28547084
The Mazda MX-5

>>28547712
based if true

>>28547063
>rear fog lights in Canada

As far as I know, they are not required. People have no fucking clue what they are. I work in a german car shop and a lot of customers say "I have a brake light out" and it's just the fog lights turned on. I've been having that conversation with a lot of people.

But as far as I knew, you needed 2 reverse lights or it at least needed to be even (1 in the center). Canada also has an interesting requirement where cars need to be safe and meet California emissions standards. We are stuck between Europe and America with our requirements for vehicles.

>>28547088
>Jellybean
It totally looks like a jelly bean. The 370 is slightly better but the 350 is a straight up lump of jelly in a bean shape.

>>28547374
>asked me to test drive it
All dealers in my area said "you can't test drive it unless you commit to buying it" which sounds like a common issue and why these aren't selling. Something similar happened to the Kia Stinger around here as well.

>>28547712
>r*tarded datsun look
Everybody compliments the rear end of my car and it's my favourite part. I guess that's subjective and I love it.

Went on a 6am morning drive and got a thumbs up from a guy towing a boat to the lake and a head light flash from a 370z in the back roads.

>>28547699
Do you have one?

>>28548148
I did, sold it after barely driving it once I bought a 911.

>>28548223
>mx5
Not as practical or flashy as a Nissan Z.

What does the Z directly compete with? The GR86 competes with the MX5, the Toyota Supra Competes with the BMW Supra and some sort of Acura/Honda in that price range. The Nissan is between these price points and it sits in a weird part of the market. I only bought mine because the dealer had a 11k discount. Otherwise it would make no sense.

>>28548482
In the past few decades, Z cars have competed with the Mustang GT and Camaro SS of their respective generations. I can't say much about the other models, but the 350Z and 370Z both slightly edged out the others from a performance standpoint and were the same price or a bit cheaper depending on your locale.
The Camaro's gone (for now), and the new Z (at least the performance trim) seems to be as fast as the S650 Mustang for the same price, but I'd agree that the Supra (if you're short enough to fit in it) or Corvette are now so competitively prices that there's very little reason not to go for those unless the other cars are being sold at a discount.

>>28531747
The Z has always been a more American flavor in the "JDM" stable

>>28545659
>A beautiful facelift though
Are you legally blind, by any chance?

>>28546361
>my buddy has one and I've driven it. It's actually quite lovely to drive. I really like it
is it a good DD as far as coupes go? i.e. compliant suspension, good clutch/shifter for low speed driving, reasonable NVH

>>28548519
It's a fair bit cheaper than a supra. In my country a performance z is 85k, while a base supra is 95k and a GTS supra with different rims and a few other minor changes is 105 and a track edition supra is 115.

It's more oldschool and has better visibility and a manual handbrake and is close to the mustang in power while being lighter, smaller and more fuel efficient

https://youtu.be/LplFNiPPrf8?si=JvDrFK_O1wtcmdCD

It's over, officially japanese approved (turn on the subs)

>>28548742
Same here. It's like a 10-15k difference and if you aren't 100% happy with the interior or the visibility issues, then you should not buy it in my opinion. I wasn't willing to stretch my budget for a better engine and performance compared to the Z. It would be nice if the Z had more internal storage spaces but the Supra isn't much better.

Also, the Supra doesn't have an external trunk release button. That shit would drive me insane.

>>28531709 (OP)
There are 3 for sale at the Nissan dealer about a mile from my home: a blue NISMO, that same sort of yellow, and a black one. I’d consider the yellow if I didn’t have an FL5 Type R.

>>28547699
Way too ugly, slow, gay, and on hilariously HUGE pikachu MONSTER TRUCK fuckin STILTS
>>28548223
See what I mean LOLbmaooo0o0o0

>>28548519
LOL why the FUCK is did they put that thing on fuckin STILTS like some kind have MONSTER TRUCK?! bmaooo0o0o0o

>>28546361
LOL this is UGLY as FUCK godsDAMN