Thread 28534229

it's literally over

>>28534229 (OP)
the only ones currently making any profit rn are those selling shitboxes to india and africa, like suzuki
everyone else is either losing profit because nobody buys new, losing profit because byd dumps cars onto market at half price, or are byd who are operating at a loss by design, in a concentrated attempt by the ccp to murder automotive industries worldwide by using china's infinite money and power

>>28534236
Sad but true.

>>28534236
>byd who are operating at a loss by design, in a concentrated attempt by the ccp to murder automotive industries worldwide by using china's infinite money and power
why is this a bad thing?

>$200k car
>if you want it in blue that's an extra $12k
>if you want cloth seats that's an extra $2k
>cupholders? extra $4k fuck you
>oh and it's a 911 so you need to buy 15 boxters before we even think of putting you on a waiting list for one
>wait wtf why are we losing money???

raped by bmw :/

>>28534244
you don't want china to become the global hegemony
with america in power, sure, lots of shit sucks, but their party line is "we are all the same people, some are just misguided, maybe lacking in democracy"
you can coexist with america if you are smart, and you can even become a real american if you are good enough
with china, if you are not chinese, you are an enemy, and a defeated enemy is trash to be taken out
you will forever be a fifth class citizen, below even prison camp uighurs (these poor sods at least know mandarin, you are mute to them)
if they allow you to exist in the first place, that is

>>28534255
>but their party line is "we are all the same people
but we are not all chosen people

>>28534255
it's not like muttistan makes my life easy. $37T national debt from fighting israeli wars and giving money to corporations. infinite outsourcing to pajeets. 20 million brown illegals still here despite the """deportations.""" id rather take my chances as a second class citizen to the chinks. at least i would get infrastructure and a totalitarianism government the benefits people rather than the small hat tribe.

>>28534255
>their party line is "we are all the same people, some are just misguided, maybe lacking in democracy"
>you can coexist with america if you are smart, and you can even become a real american if you are good enough
???
Do we live in the same planet?

>>28534229 (OP)
Brutal. Maybe they can find an even cheaper alloy for cylinder sleeves to save a few Pennies

lol

>>28534255
boohoo rabbi no more billions to Israel when the US economy goes down the shitter.

>>28534249
>oh and it's a 911 so you need to buy 15 boxters before we even think of putting you on a waiting list for one
Not how that works for a non-GT car, but you're such a gullible goy you'll believe it. I put $1,000 down and got put in the queue to have my 911 built.

>>28534359
Rape my wallet

>>28534430
no way, next thing you'll tell me is cupholders aren't a $4k option.

>>28534287
yes, but america says great people are born all around the world, and if they are great they will gravitate towards america, the land of the great
if you are garbage, you are garbage because you don't work hard enough towards being chosen, not because you happened to be born in the wrong place or to wrong parents
not the case with chinks
if you are not born to chinese parents, you are garbage
if you are born to chinese parents but not in china, you are garbage, and if you also don't vocally support china despite never seeing it, you are double garbage, know your roots gweilo
if you are born chinese in china but not under chinese communist party (in taiwan or hong kong), you are a traitor, uber garbage
if you are born chinese but dared to move out, all your lineage is garbage
and they are lying motherfuckers, if you are great and they need your service, they will invite you with sickly sweet pretend hospitality, convince you to stay, milk you dry, and only then tell you that you are actually garbage and either kick you out or find a reason to jail and torture you forever so that nobody else gets your greatness
>>28534289
you will not be a second class citizen, you will not get infrastructure, you will be sent into a megafactory and worked to death with no access to anything but bare necessities to survive. and they won't let you do that in peace, white monkey shall be paraded naked and laughed at, you gonna pay for the century of humilation by eternity of humiliation
>>28534317
individuals can live in an american world. they might have to suffer, move, break connections or even change their world view entirely, but with hard enough work, they can find a place to live peacefully. with china, you are an enemy by default, and nothing ever will change that. same with muslims, though they will never rule the world because unlike china they are too busy making enemies out of each other so you don't need to worry about these clowns

vroom, i am talking about cars

>>28534469
>individuals can live in an american world. they might have to suffer, move, break connections or even change their world view entirely, but with hard enough work, they can find a place to live peacefully. with china, you are an enemy by default, and nothing ever will change that. same with muslims, though they will never rule the world because unlike china they are too busy making enemies out of each other so you don't need to worry about these clowns
What nonsense is this? The US is literally doing everything we were told China would do. Like, what could China do that'd be worse? Actually declare war and start attacking everyone? That's terrible for business and China is about business first and foremost.

Porsche/Merc/BMW/Audi:
>yeah that will be 150k for this car. We build it for 70k but we want 150k. You can buy some chinese car if you dont like it
>people buy chinese car or used same car for 80k
>NOOO HOW COULD YOUUUU

>>28534480
>The US is literally doing everything we were told China would do.
like what
the us has had no tiananmen square moment
the american government is turbulent, fallible, makes mistakes and owns up to them eventually

the chinese government is a literal autocratic dictatorship disguised as a socialist democracy

>>28534480
while america is in power? nothing, they have to maintain their image of a benevolent dictatorship
the moment they feel empowered? they'll start invading everyone around them, starting with siberia as a test of waters, then "liberating" taiwan, and then in a circle, mongolia, southeast asia, then the world
they will take everything, consume all and leave barren land, chinese greed is insatiable
so is american, but with them you can at least commit treason and move onto the winning side on a whim

>>28534488
There's been a ton of questionable shit going on in the US, just because you didn't get an epic picture to post on xitter doesn't mean shit isn't important. And again, the textbook China bad scenario is China using your economic dependence on them to strongarm you into falling in line, giving them anything they want while they publicly humiliate you as a propaganda move, with ever present threats of military action that sooner or later might turn to reality. Sounds a lot like current day US.

>>28534480
>>28534512
1 RMB has been deposited into your account. Praise Xinnie the Jinping!

>>28534255
Underrated post.
Watch retarded children seethe and cope about MUH BRICS.
The moment China has the same say in this world as the US has now, they will be raped and gaped so much that they will beg for the evil US to come back in power.
I'm from Eastern Europe btw. When we distanced ourselves from Russia and got in with the west, things started looking up here. You have to be delusional to want to be under China or Russia's power.

>>28534229 (OP)
It is almost like the gravy train of government handouts and free money to NGOs and free give-me's are over. People need to get back to work and do shit.

And I think the COVID madness was a speed run to remove the wool from people's eyes about consumerism. There is absolutely a need for a car... but do you need a luxury car? You'er stuck in the same traffic as a 15 year old used toyota camery. We still have a long way to go but I want to see everyone who bought a car for over $80k to get ass fucked financially.

>>28534524
eh. russia is a melting pot, so while yes, no freedoms and mandatory lada granta in every household (it rusts away in 5 years so you'll have to buy another one before you paid off previous one), you can at least bullshit your way into not being treated worse than everyone else. china is a monoculture, you can't be a green banana.

>>28534236
>BYD is operating at a loss
Sounds like some cope you made up. They're not competing with Porsche anyway, they're for different customers. Porsche is fucking up all by themselves.

>>28534430
>I put $1,000 down and got put in the queue to have my 911 built.
NTA but if there is a waiting list for any car, it means demand is outpacing supply. How are they losing so much money if there is such a high demand for $100k+ cars they've been making for decades?

>>28534229 (OP)
Kek, Porkey are sperging because people buy their electric cars (up +318% YoY), instead of their overpriced fartmobiles, which leads to massively reduced margins (since electric cars bring in minuscule profits, unless you're Tesla or chingchongdingdong).

>>28534249
So your theory is that people just all smartened up within a year?

>>28534546
>it rusts away in 5 years so you'll have to buy another one before you paid off previous one
Better than mercedes, ford or goyota rusting away 3 years into the warranty that the manufacturer won't honor.

>>28534229 (OP)
>Operating profit
They're still profitable, they're doing fine.

When they start actually losing money is when you need to pay attention.

>>28535607
Line must always go up. Line not going up is a huge problem.

>>28535646
The problem isn't line not going up, it's line not going up higher than last year.

>>28534255
Get a load of this goy.

>>28534469
Wow you're pathetic. You're like an incarnation of pic related. A true retarded NPC.

>>28535738
>pic related
>>28534524
>slav subhuman sucking up to the US
Tell us a new tale for once you fucking faggot.

>>28534467
to be fair their option pricing is somewhat ridiculous; but that's okay if you're having it custom built to your specifications (just better hope they have your desired standard PTS colors available that year...only 15k.....or you'll need to pony up another 15k for PTS+).

>>28535646
But anon, line is going up, just not as steep up.

>>28534255
yeah right go watch youtube videos and see how simply being a foreigner gets you treated like a celebrity in china. they may not like the people who run our government but they think Americans are cool. they grew up watching the same Spiderman movies and other American culture bullshit as us, they even think blacks are cool

>>28534584
>Kek, Porkey are sperging because people buy their electric cars (up +318% YoY)
Taycan and the new electric Macan are the worst selling Porsches, they sell even less than 718

>>28535705
>>28535809
Do you guys not understand how graphs work?

>>28535607
Operating profit is calculated before interest and taxes, so they might actually be at a loss now. They're closing down about 1900 jobs in Stuttgart.

Just €154 million profit?
Oy vey think of the poor starving executives!
How can anyone expect to to survive on just €154M a quarter?

>>28534488
>the us has had no tiananmen square moment
Brown vs. board of ed, Waco, Ruby Ridge, 9/11, a stay stream of false flag mass shootings, all the Epstein business...
But no, none of them were in tiannamen square.

>>28534512
>amelica bad! they rike china now!
>what are they doing that is like china?
>all sorts of things

>>28534367
>xiaomi su7
unironically worse than a 1st gen Dacia Logan, At least the seats on that shitbox didnt break from a 50km/h rear ending

>>28535291
no, you don't get it. in 3 years, toyota will just start getting fucky. lada starts rusting before it even left the factory, and 5 years is when it completely sublimates into nothingness.

>>28534367
also if you buy the tesla people will just think it's a model 3 since they all look the same

>>28534255
China is really funny to me because their twenty somethings are even more blackpilled about the future of their country and economy than American twenty something’s.

>>28535831
I'm not talking about the US. The US is the worst performing region for Porsche, and has been for something like 3 years.

>>28535849
This desu, add on investors too
Meanwhile that fabled ev cayman and boxster are still nowhere to be seen.

>>28535844
>>28535849