Thread 28549512

So gee, what's the "suckless" of cars? Or the "thinkpad" of cars (or whatever meme you think Luke Smith would fell for lmao).
Either EV or ICE (internal combustion engine).

Discuss.

>pic unrel since that one is not on sale.

A lada or some shit
It has been impossible to manufacture a "suckless" car at scale in the west for well over a decade

easily the 70 series since it's simple, has been made forever and will last forever

there aren't any new cars that fit the bill, you'd have to get an older used car. the closest you can get in the US would probably be OBS ford truck or a TJ/XJ jeep

Toyota Hilux in all fields

>>28549512 (OP)
I don't think /g/ knows cars. So I went and asked that to /o/.

Spent hours trying to explain thinkpads.

>>28549512 (OP)
Toyota Hilux or land cruiser

>>28549517
kek

Crown Victoria
>fleet issued
>see them a lot in government auctions
>used to be a huge, cheap stock but recently drying up due to memes
>dead-simple to work on
>parts are cheap and plentiful
>big and bulky but durable
>not energy efficient for the power it produces
>cult following, iconic
>gives girls the ick but guys love it
>black

>>28549512 (OP)
Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic

>>28549512 (OP)
https://youtu.be/kWq3jhxOWUI?si=k1F5XBI2V3tzSnMy

Any fleet car, really, like for US it's >>28549520

South America it's Toyota Corolla.
MENA and Asia it's Kias and Toyota Corolla.

Europe (& aglosphere (UK, AUS, NZ)) it's Skodas.

Globally, it's probably Toyota Corolla.

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Land Cruiser could fit the definition but it's so ungodly expensive its most popular practical use is militaristic in nature.

>>28549522
I dream that someday 3D printers will become as commonplace as refrigerators or TVs, and at that point I’ll see a thriving market for user-customizable products like these... But with today's normalfag's coomsoomer culture, it's too early.

>>28549512 (OP)
XV30 camry

any naturally aspirated toyota/lexus product.
A shame most of their lineup now are turbo 4 bangers or turbo 6 bangers.
t. 2017 rx350 v6 owner

>>28549512 (OP)
Literally almost anything, there are few cars that are completely horseshit

>>28549523
>AU, NZ
>Skodas
this doesn't czech out

listen to >>28549526
my brother has a '25 rx
tech is obviously better but also spooky and the electronic nannies are unreasonable. The 4 cyl is really stuttery and the oled pwm absolutely rapes your eyes / brain. Also does not feel like its built to the same standard at all.
t. fellow '17 rx350 chad

>>28549514
Those are built here, but not sold here, because muh emissions; they're shipped to Africa and other such based places lol

>>28549512 (OP)
toyota sienna xl30
>affordable for its size ($29k for base model in 2011)
>fuckhuge interior rivaling vw transporter in capacity, removable 2nd row seats, can throw in multiple bikes easily
>comfortable
>simple powertrain without any real maintenance requirements
>great visibility from front up close compared to other cars
>ass fuel economy (can be mitigated with lpg to be as cheap to run as the new hybrid xl40)
>infotainment design allows to slide from driver to passenger seat without stepping out of car
>unaffordable nowadays, variants below quarter million km cost 5 digits

>>28549529
they actually put an oled as an infotainment screen????? jesus

>>28549529
>>28549532
do you have any sources comfirming it to be oled? i mean jeez, if true then i didnt expect them to something that stupid so soon

>>28549518
I have an older landcruiser, but looking around for a car, perhaps from around '95-'00. I just need something comfy with no smart features and a cd player.

>>28549514
>>28549513
The "suckless" was the Toyota pickup. Which is why it was used by Third Worlders for their improvised military vehicles, aka technicals. Pic related, the famous 1988 Toyota Hilux pickup that survived various torture tests on Top Gear back in the day.

>>28549535
could it survive a molotov though?

>>28549537
>>28549513
Thinkpads are reliable, Ladas are not. Yes, you can fix them for cheap, but that's not the point here.

>>28549538
It depends, some can be reliable, some can't. It's unstable.
But it's "suckless" in temrs of minimalism.

>>28549512 (OP)
Fiat Panda

>>28549533
it's not stupid, the screen breaks in a year or two and if you want a new one that's $1200 plus tip

this is how companies make money now.
by scamming you

>>28549541
okay but that doesnt answer if they actually did it
i looked up lexus oled screen but no results come up

>>28549512 (OP)
old 1st-3rd gen honda fit, old toyota corolla, old toyota hilux

Tesla. with Toolbox3 you can fix anything, there is a slick API, and the base maintenance mode is rather sophisticated too. you can flash new modules to your car without service center approval.

>>28549512 (OP)
literally any lada made in the USSR

>>28549544
>saar pay for subscription to our e-waste

>>28549524
teslas have 3d printed and glued-together parts, their bumpers literally fall off randomly, its all just glue and cheap plastic
plus its absolutely proprietary, e-waste, you don't even have a real gearbox lmao

>>28549547
retard

>>28549548
https://3dprinting.com/news/the-mysterious-3d-printed-part-in-the-tesla-model-y/

SAAB of course, or an older Volvo

an old toyota, lexus or honda, if you're somewhere in europe you could also get something with a fire or multijet engine, preferring older vehicles/euro classes
if you are in europe and end up going with something i didn't mention please do NOT buy anything with a puretech engine, it WILL die prematurely
i will also say it is kind of sad that the hatchback design is becoming unpopular, everything needs to be a suv nowadays apparently...

>>28549551
ermst, its crossover, chuddy, its not body on frame but unibody
basically a lifted hatchback

>>28549552
i apologize for my grave, unwanted mishap

>>28549513
>knowing about lada
When did 4chan become a dvach daughter board?

Honda Civic
Boring, practical, durable, beloved by ricers and hated by women. It is the Thinkpad of cars.

>>28549520
yeah either this or an impala from the era

>>28549539
>It depends, some can be reliable, some can't. It's unstable.
Basically, any thinkpad since *30 gen.

>>28549553
btw crossovers are "popular" because every automaker phased out mpvs (or did something from merely rebranding to raising the floor for no reason like the renault espace or peugeot 5008 or citroen picassos or whatever)
because its (probably) cheaper to have same crossover for amerimutts and euromutts than mpv for euros and, idk, minivans for burgers o algo or some shit

>>28549558
well okay technically there are commercial van based mpvs like berlingo xl or jumpy o algo but thats still just a cost cut for manufacturer

>>28549548
>gulp gulp gulp
>do you like it like that Musk-sama?

>>28549512 (OP)
A bicycle you raging homofaggot. Carcucks seething in line for hours.

>>28549536
it survives being shot at with rockets and won a war in africa against tanks, it also survives being dropped from a building, so im pretty sure a shitty molotov isn't gonna hurt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsqWmU8oD_M
here's a video about the toyota war if you're curious
>>28549554
O CУКA БЛЯTЬ ПИЗДEЦ

>>28549554
obviously when both boards became filled with eerily similar /pol/ faggotry of loving to hate their designated villains

>>28549512 (OP)
Honda Civic
>t. every mechanic ever

>>28549555
>>28549564
your american hondas must be built better or something, I see way more old toyotas than hondas.

>>28549565
american ones are dogshit, only buy hondas/toyotas (old ones) from japan
the ones made by shitskins in india or whatever are also crap

>pick up
Toyota Hill
>hatchback
Honda civic
>saloon
A lexus or 90s ford
>wagon
Volvo
>sports car
Miata
>suv
Willy's jeep or land-rover discovery

>>28549520
Falcons and territorys and mustangs mog that old girl but God I love them too

>>28549529
excellent taste

>>28549512 (OP)
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>>28549512 (OP)
>Suckless of cars
I would say horse-mounted carriage but owning horses is incredibly expensive. We need something that is both incredibly cheap, lightweight and happens to be a pain in the ass to setup, but very easy to use. Motorbikes?
>Thinkpads of cars
Toyota Prius

>>28549512 (OP)
That car looks cool as hell. Reminds me of Blade Runner.

>>28549512 (OP)
>the "thinkpad" of cars
>W124
>XV20/MCV20
>CL1/CF1

>>28549512 (OP)
>thinkpad of cars
Nissan Xterra or Pathfinder for underappreciated vehicles that are absolute tanks. The XTerra were some of the best offroad vehicles ever made and are very easy to work on. Just enough modern features but still simple. Tacoma are great, I'd also add Ford Ranger/F-150/F-250 from the '80s up to '96 before they added EFI.
>>28549535
Looks better than some of the ranch trucks rolling around here.

>>28549515
Slate are trying

>>28549512 (OP)
Toyoter

>>28549512 (OP)
1st gen XC90.
>extremely reliable
>one of the safest cars (went 20 years in the UK with 0 (zero) occupant fatalities)
>can do anything you need (AWD, tow hitch, roof rack, 7 seats which fold down for tons of room)
>has modern tech (BT, reverse cam, blindspot warning, heated seats, rain and light sensors, sun roof, adaptive headlights, etc) without modern IoT shit
>a ton were sold so every scrapyard has them so parts are cheap as shit to get
>they're uncool which means no one wants a 2nd hand one, so they're very cheap
>and they're seen as an old ladies car so chances of getting pulled over are slim

>>28549561
you call productive motorists faggots but I haven't had to suck strange dick for transport since owning one. Have fun transporting a piano.

>>28549577
the v8s in these are cool, they're designed by Yamaha and related to the 3rd gen Taurus SHO V8

>>28549523
AUS and NZ would probably be a Toyota Kluger, Corolla or Hilux. Maybe a few years back a Holden Commodore or Ford Falcon, but those are dead.

>>28549512 (OP)
Toyota RAV4

>>28549512 (OP)
>So gee, what's the "suckless" of cars?
The GNU/Car ofc.

>>28549512 (OP)
Open source cars are a real thing.

>>28549582
Which one? I'd say only first and second gen are suckless. Third gen and onward they got kinda stupid.

>>28549585
Any of the ones where the V6 was still available. Alternatively, the newer hybrid versions are pretty solid overall from a "it just werks" standpoint. Though fit and finish is kinda meh for the price

I'm from the south cone so:
toyota hilux (d4d engine)
I want a land cruiser II and retrofit a d4d or go loco and put an OM606

>>28549584
>only made ~100 before stopping production and going back to bespoke trophy trucks
>company folded a few years later in 2022
>wasn't actually open source (non-commercial, non-derivative), but source available
>source is no longer available after the company/website shutdown
It's about exactly what you'd expect from a company boasting about a commercial 'open-source' hardware project.

>>28549512 (OP)
>Toyota Hilux
>Toyota Corolla
or
>Most Fords because
https://forscan.org/home.html
Still waiting for these to take off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_car#cite_note-1

>>28549513
>>28549538
>>28549545
>>28549554
What's "suckless" of /lit/ guys? Dostoyevsky? More like "drinkless" LMAO

Sent from my MacBook Air

>>28549584
excluding electronics all cars are open source, mostly. there's nothing hidden/scrambled. just take measurements and reproduce all parts. scan a part, manufacture it, assemble and use. these days having drawings with dimensions is less important. the issue is manufacturing of said parts, not getting the dimensions for them. there might be some alloy secrets in few places but should be able to deal with any of them, there's plenty alternatives anyway.

>>28549531

Bought a 2004 sienna with 130k miles for $4k and daily drove it for 4 years, took it to mexico and back, drove from texas to canada, from canada to alaska and never had an issue with it other than the thermostat.

Got great gas milage, tons of space, slept in the damn thing.

10/10 van, best van in the world.

I would say a 2016 nissan versa S trim with manual windows and a gear box (not a cvt) is my think pad, never had an issue with it, beat the living fuck out of it, survived hail, and 2 rear endings and still wasnt totaled... easy to work on it, lots of room for mods.

All these modern fat heavy cars are retarded.

>HURR DURR OUR ENGINE IS 94% EFFICIENT
Yeah, let's ignore you're using all the energy to move a 3000 pound hunk of metal just to get your 300 pound ass somewhere.
That's 10% efficiency at the end even if your engine is a 100% efficient.

>>28549593
not your problem.

>>28549594
How is it not my problem?
I'm the one who has to pay for all that wasted energy.

>>28549595
if a car weighed a "reasonable" amount according to what you say, the market would raise the price of fuel because people could afford it
same way they raised electrical bills for evs or whatever

>>28549577
>No fatalities steak ended because an Indian family got crushed in one after a truck rolled over on top of it
Poos ruining everything as usual.

>>28549589
Forscan is great but also
>Powershift auto boxes WILL explode before 100k
>Ecoboost engines WILL explode before 100k

>>28549512 (OP)
I just drive a 2003 Toyota Corolla and save a lot of money instead.

I might buy a used ~2020 Corolla next year if they drop the price a little bit. I'd like to spend less than 10,000€ after selling my own car.

I'm 36 and I think I might have enough money to buy a house with cash before I'm 40. No mortgage.

>>28549596
fuel is more expensive now than decades ago, where cars were much lighter on average

>>28549512 (OP)
Ford Falcon AU

>>28549512 (OP)
2004 Toyota Camry

>>28549600
cars are more efficient than before despite weight increase (at least according to epa) so it roughly evens out
fuel costs to the goy not what it actually costs to produce, but what the goyim are willing to pay

>>28549603
>cars are more efficient than before despite weight increase (at least according to epa)
Because those efficiency ratings don't actually take weight in account.
It's just the fuel efficiency of the engine.
The retarded feds are actively hurting lighter cars with their shitty rules.

>>28549604
thats not feds but pickup makers but whatever fair point

>>28549512 (OP)
>So gee, what's the "suckless" of cars?
EV conversion of some common older car with a blown engine with good parts availability.

DIY EV is the simplest and easiest to maintain power train and electronic system.

>>28549512 (OP)
Red Block volvos

>>28549512 (OP)
Jeez, that one good looking ass
Of course they complete butchered the face

>>28549608
the entire thing is equally fuck ugly

the dude who operates the suckless website is a programmer at bmw

>>28549514
why are all wheels suddenly two-tone? it's fucking ugly

>>28549512 (OP)
all cars are the same. just pick one

>>28549528
Actually, it does. NZ police famously use Škodas.

>>28549540
Ad from back in the day.

>>28549512 (OP)
>Excels at nothing
>Can do anything
Thinkpad immediately brings to mind an old merc for me

>>28549549
Looks more well made than half the engine components in my beemer haha

>>28549513
Thinkpads aren't cheap. Ladas are.

The XJ
>4WD
>4 doors
>4 seats
>Unkillable motor
>Customizable
>Comfy cargo room
>Not a gay ass FIAT

Easy for E39

Offroads better than your pikachu BULLSHIT

Looks better than your hilarious pikachu MONSTER TRUCK bullshits

>>28549574
i have a 97 pathfinder, and its list of issues are growing and growing. it's a pig on gas (i also drive like a cocksucker), and i'm constantly windowshopping for something cheaper to run to replace it with... but despite its problems, it's never complained about the abuse or left me stranded. it's also remarkably small for what it is, incredibly easy to drive in urban areas and navigate off road trails.