Thread 28549903

which one would you pick to desecrate with an American small block v8?

>>28549903 (OP)
neither, bmw can't into making a rear subframe that could handle all that ALL AMERICAN MOTOR TORQUE

>>28549903 (OP)
V8 swap them turn it into a skyline.

>>28549909
so which one?

>>28549903 (OP)
I'd happily drop a v8 through both cars' roofs from a 10 story window

>>28549911
lookin' GOOD!

>>28549913
I already said neither

>>28549919
So you came into my thread to answer a question I didnt ask? Are you illiterate or something?

>>28549923
Maybe don't give two shit choices next time

>>28549903 (OP)
M5 comes with a V8 already, although BMW proved that the E46 is just as good with one when they made the M3 GTR. a LS would go nicely in either car. probably wouldn't even add any weight over the front wheels at all in the case of the M5.

>>28549928
fun um but the reality of the situation is that the E39 is the best sports sedan overall that there is

>>28549934
Delusional

>>28549928
If they're shit why even reply to the thread you retard

for me it's an N55 swapped e46 with CSL exterior parts and street fighter LA fender flares
https://youtu.be/XvBH8jTv9EQ?si=5QwBfBZK1Z1opcZX

>>28549948
to chastise the OP in the hopes that he stops posting shit threads

>>28549954
bit too wide for me
im definitely privy to the m3 panels though

>>28549955
Im going to make a few more threads on the topic because you couldnt contribute anything of value to this one

>>28549931
The issue with the m3 seems to be subframes
The issue with the e39 seems to be rust
I dont have a strong opinion toward either platform, but im considering both because they have good chassis and are supported enough to be swapped without fabrication

>>28549957
It's indeed wide but ideally I'd fit proper 355 tires on it.

>>28549963
you can deal with and combat rust. you can't really unfuck a subframe, at least not by any conventional means.

Why is the subframe on E46 bad anyway? what did BMW do? not add enough metal?

>>28549903 (OP)
An M1

>>28549903 (OP)
Probably the e39. The m62/s62 are both good but nothing really special and being German v8s they are little too complicated and expensive. E46 is fine with its m54/s54

>>28549970
they have a tendency to crack, but reinforcement kits exist and arent too costly to weld in

>>28549903 (OP)
why ask people to choose between the same thing twice?

>>28549982
because they're not the same?

>>28549903 (OP)
I would put a V8 in the back of the E39 like a 164 Procar.

>>28549954
>engine and body built for racing
>stanced so its impossible for actually racing

>>28549935
And yet

>>28550065
Is this a cope from when it was said the E60 M5 was better earlier on? Or am I misremembering? That happened somewhere and it was pretty funny to watch.

>>28550069
Kek that didn't happen and e60s are UGLY as FUCK LOLbmaooo0o0o0

>>28550071
>LOLbmaooo0o0o0
Bro coped so hard he had a stroke. RIP.

>>28550048
Stancefags destroy cars for their own personal amusement, it's not something worth exploring further into.

>>28550065
And yet... some random fag on the internet disagrees? Well I'm a random fag on the internet and I think the fucking Kia Forte is the best sports sedan ever made. Good argument

>>28550105
>Kia Forte
I was watching a bunch of repossession videos last night and so many of them were black people with Kia's for some reason, in particular the Forte.

>>28550065
Will you ever make any original posts or are you content to make the same 3 posts every day forever?

>>28550048
>>28550100
>Stance
Stay in the cyclist board, retard
>>>/n/

>>28550144
>this destroys the stancefag
Heh, nothing personal kid

>>28550124
https://youtu.be/jBvwk-7juso?t=425

>>28550147
Imagine thinking that's going to stop anything lmao fucking busrider I swear

Post bread on hood

>>28550156
>he hasn't seen the endless compilations of stancefags getting btfo by speedbumps

>>28550176
You ride the bus

>>28549903 (OP)
It's just not possible. Acknowledge pushrod superiority.

>>28550180
>It's just not possible
What's not possible?
>Acknowledge pushrod superiority.
Did the read the op stupid?

>>28550135
At this point I feel like it has to be a bot, no one is that much of a loser

>>28550182
I am in fact stupid, I didn't read the with. I have been programmed to see a BMW and think it's a European seeking about American vehicles.

>>28550330
kek
I just think they drive and look nice, but I dont want to deal with the cost and complexity. So obviously the reasonable thing to do is dump 20k into one. Small block v8 is peak engine so that's what I'll be doing.
BMWs are not my first choice but they're one of a few platforms I like that are supported enough to be able to swap without fabrication

>>28550338
I agree they do look and drive nice. I will never own German again though after my experience with a 1999 e300td. If I had to do what you're doing I would definitely get an E36 or an E46 as it seems like those are going to have an eternal aftermarket.

>>28550156
love that video

>>28549963
V8 E39s have a steering box to clear the wider engine, I6 E39s get a rack and pinion.

>>28550341
I've had my share of bad German car experiences, but I do appreciate the things that they get right like style, build quality and handling. On the otherhand I love the character, sound and power delivery of small blocks but I dont want the of the cars they came in for one reason or another, hence I've arrived at this weird place where I'm looking at e39s/e46s.
>>28550352
Yeah, if e39 I'd start with an i6 because of the steering box. You'd have to convert to a rack & pinion to swap it

>>28549903 (OP)
This mercedes.

>>28550359
An early r129 or pic related would have unironically been my first choices, but without any aftermarket support the cost is just insane. Even if I could weld id rather have a professional do it. That's before considerations like needing a custom rack & pinion conversion, a custom harness, potentially custom headers, and then finding a diff/rear end setup that could handle the power.

>>28550105
>nooo he's an eceleb!!!
>nooo he's a random!!!
Kek cry pussy

>>28550429
I don't know what an eceleb is, but just throwing quotes around doesn't prove a point. Why don't you explain why it's the best sports sedan? Hard mode : use actual words and not illegible slang

>>28549986
they look exactly the fucking same, and they're built to the exact same standard. overcomplicated and underperforming.

>>28550640
feel free to stop your womanly bitch aching at any time and say something useful

>>28550640
>overcomplicated and underperforming.
>thread is about swapping reliable, simple and efficient engines

>manual, rwd sedan
>stock-ish LS with healthy 400-450 horses
>suspension tightened up with some M3 bits
>M3 seats and brakes
>Super2000 overfenders, bit ricey but I like them
don't even care if the base is an E46 or E90

This is the most pathetic board on this website. 90 percent of the "people" on here must have sub 80 IQ

>>28550792
so what are you gonna do about it?

>>28550792
care to explain or contribute your high iq takes or are you just here to bitch and moan?

>>28549903 (OP)
Problems are all highlighted in red.

>>28551727
interesting. you think that hurts the e46 styling that bad?

>>28550749
most comments and concerns about the bmws are that they're structurally inadequate dude

>>28550726
will that make them anything other than carbon copies of the same unremarkable rental car?

>>28551727
Kek, "based," to use thr parlance of our times
>>28551736
It does. It's so fucking ugly

>>28552276
that can be fixed with a $100 kit

>>28552280
would it make your post any less useless? its effortless to shit on a car. considering why im looking into these, suggest an alternative and tell me why its better

>>28549903 (OP)
E39s are better made than E46s so I'd put a big displacement NA LS in an E39 wagon. It would be a good idea too because M60s are gutless and suck, and S62s are cool but they're too expensive and a 6L+ LS would make more power anyway.

>>28552709
e39 wagon would be kino. the only marks against them is they seem more rust prone than e46s and dont look as nice, but they also dont seem to have subframe issues
I used to own an e39 and liked it quite a bit, but sold it because I got it for free and it had some rust

>>28552723
I'm not sure where they rust because my BMW cutoff is E34, but I know E34s are more prone to rusting than E30s in some areas because they have dumb shit like molding on the bottom of the door. Every car has its problem areas.

>>28552735
>Every car has its problem areas.
truth. if it were up to me id choose an e24 to ruin but they seem atrocious for attracting rust, and ultimately my goal here is to be able to do a swap on my own with off the shelf parts

>>28552744
I think for E24s the main issue is the rear end rusting out. Mine had rust around the tail lights and luckily it's a mostly hidden area so I was able to cut it out, form some new sheet metal, weld it in, and paint it with off the 2K that's made to match OE colors and you couldn't even tell without pulling the tail lights.

>>28552709
But now you're stuck with a steering box as opposed to BMW's steering RACKS, which were the best in the business, baby

>>28552723
E39s look nicer than E46s THOUGH

>>28553338
Over base e46s, definitely. Over the M3? Idk thats tough
>>28553335
Aye
As said above id be starting eith an i6 model to avoid a steering rack conversion

>>28549903 (OP)
yawn, another anonymous bmw on the road

>>28553391
sorry? im not some zoomer that needs to "be different" just like everyone else. im just looking for a chassis that suits my needs

>>28553335
Not really a concern to me. I've had a couple of E34s and despite
>MUH STEERING BOX!!!!1111
They are pretty good, WAY better than stock E30 steering which is a rack with a school bus ratio. Now if you put a Z3 rack in an E30 and compare that to an E34 of course that's way better, but E34 steering is perfectly fine for a full size sedan so E39 is probably as good or better.

>>28553352
Definitely over the M3. rice != nice

>>28553470
Ok but if you start with a perfect-out-of-the-box STRAIGHT 6 E39 you get a steering RACK, which was the best in the business, baby
But then you'd have to get rid of the beautiful M52/M54 for no reason which would be
B L A S P H E M Y

>>28553477
Meh, I'll take an LS over a M52TU or M54 any day. Those old 6cyl 5 series are slugs. My E34s were turbo M30 and M60B40, NA the M30 car was a dog.

>>28553635
Meh just get a C5 or C6 Z06 already godsDAMN

>>28553646
>gm plastics and a torque toob
no thanks

>>28553818
Leave the E39 alone.
Just get a C6 Z06, W124, W126, R129, W140, W201, E30 325i with a HUGE turbo,
E31 850CSi, E38 750i, E46 GTR with a reinforced rear subframe, E92 M3 Competition, or F10 M5 Competition if you want a V engine with more than 6 cylinders in nicer car already godsDAMN

>>28553834
yeah ill probably just go with an e39 but thank you for the suggestions

>>28549903 (OP)
The 3 series, but I wouldn't do it to an M car, or even a very nice example 330i, I feel like that would be a waste to not keep their original character. But I would totally swap some clapped out 320i and make it intona drift missile.