Thread 28550953

>hydrogen powered
aaaand into the trash it goes
why the fuck would they tease us and make it hydrogen

It's just a random concept car from acouple of years ago ya retard
They could've put "nuclear powered" in the press release, doesn't matter

it's never going to release
it's designed to appeal to millennial nostalgia and millennials are generally worthless and poor
it wouldnt get any sales

They need to throw in a straight 6 and sell it for under 50k and it'll BTFO the supra/Z/mustang

>>28551065
>just r&d a completely new inline 6 and sell it for $50k bro

>>28551068
hell they can do like toyota and borrow the B58 i don't give a fuck
they've got a decent 6 speed and a solid wet dct they just need a good strong engine and the car will sell itself
they're already undercutting the civic type r/golf r/gr corolla by 10-15k with their elantra N, no reason they couldn't undercut the 55-65k market and clean up with a reasonably afforable sports car

electric charging is too slow for track use, so they wanted to experiment with hydrogen. it's a test platform and not a real product.

WHY do you keep pretending to believe this is going to be a real car?
The point of this thing was to preview that some new Hyundais have square headlights, that's it

>>28551058
>"millennials are generally worthless and poor"
Everyone keeps telling it's zoomers who are dead broke. If millennials are worthless and poor, zoomers are dead broke, and alpha isn't even old enough to drive yet, who the fuck are cars marketed towards?

>>28550953 (OP)
literally looks like somebody went to town ordering ebay universal aero parts and you goon over it?

Should be LPG powered with skyactiv x type tech, and more fuel for performance mode under load etc

>>28550953 (OP)
To tick the ESG boxes and pretend that they were doing something when idiots like VW Ford and GM were sinking billions into EV technology that no one wants

Toyota did the same

Now that the green scam is over (thanks to trump and killing USAID) who's laughing now?

>>28551065
Agreed. I'd be tempted. Will likely need relaxed safety scores to be complaint. Why the fuck do cars need to have pedestrian safety considerations?

>>28551347
>who the fuck are cars marketed towards?
Theyre sometimes marketed towards broke generations who don't buy the cars, costing the company billions in losses.
Car enthusiasts in general are pathetic and broke so every low tier sports car inevitably fails

>>28550963
>pink hydrogen
https://www.science.org/content/article/storing-hydrogen-oil-liquid-could-allow-easy-transport-trucks-and-ships

>>28551065
They could just use their 3.5 v6 twin turbo.

>>28550953 (OP)
Hydrogen is the future, baka.

>>28556527
Yes, but until it's better than gas, and cheaper than gas, people will just keep buying gas.
EVs are in the same boat now that electricity prices have skyrocketed and gas prices have come way down. Why would you buy a $70k EV that takes hours to charge and costs you $50 to charge up when you could go buy a $30k ICE car with more bells and whistles and only costs you $25 to fill up and goes twice as far?

>>28557127
Rebirth of IC Engine

>>28556527
>Hydrogen is the future
Yep. Add a few carbon atoms to make a liquid, pour into tank and go.

>>28557127
>a $30k ICE car with more bells and whistles and only costs you $25 to fill up and goes twice as far?
The only 30k cars you can buy anymore are things like base model civics, corollas, and jettas which hardly have any "bells and whistles". They have typically 12-13gal tanks which would cost $41 to fill up and deliver a range of up to a maximum of about 450 miles, depending on the model, and mixed city and highway
Over 5 years at 15k mi/yr that's $6771 in gas
>a $70k EV that takes hours to charge and costs you $50 to charge up
EV math has more factors to account for, but most average 4 mi/kwh. At 17.47 cents per kw, that's $3275 in electricity.
But I guess technically you were right about the going twice as far part.

>>28550953 (OP)
nothing(besides financials) is stopping you from buying a hydrogen powered car and putting a good old 70L LPG tank and a LPG conversion kit
still meets all the emission standards while running on dino farts

>>28557925
The water cooling engine

Gonna get h2 bmw?

For the millionth, bajillionth time:
>Planned total production: 100-200 units.

>>28557925
Hydrogen combustion cars have some serious issues that would need to be addressed before they could become viable. The first is the price of hydrogen itself; the few stations that have it in California are mostly charging $36 per kg. 1 kg of hydrogen conveniently has pretty much the same energy content as 1 gallon of gas, so basically running a car off of it would be 8x more expensive than gasoline in California. The next up is that the pumps and storage tanks needed for hydrogen are much more expensive than gas pumps or electric faster chargers, and require a much more fastidious & expensive maintenance schedule. Hydrogen is a bitch to work with & if you cheap out on maintenance stuff explodes. That is also part of why the price at the pump for hydrogen is so high. The next is that hydrogen's energy density per unit of volume is not that good; at best in a normal sized car you might be able to fit pressure tanks holding 5 to 6 kg of H2, which as the energy content noted above is like only having a 5 or 6 gallon gas tank.

>>28558079
OP can convert ICE vehicles to LP which is fairly common. Most hydrogen in the US comes from natgas anyway so might as well burn LP.

Top ends last a very long time because LP leaves no carbon residue. Unlike hydrogen, LP is easier to store and handle while being of higher energy density.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=65845

>>28557127
Tell me about it.

>>28559048
See>>28556380

Breaking new. Hyroad buy nikola remain hydrogen infrastructure.

>>28559023
Germany get something good.

>>28556380
We balling up the rate.
https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/pink-hydrogen-from-nuclear-power-fuels-industrial-decarbonization/8572279/

>>28559175
Unbelievable…

>>28550953 (OP)
Is /o/ not a fan of hydrogen? I'm at least curious

They're only making like 100 of them, so who fucking cares? You're never going to own one anyway.

>>28556527
Hydrogen doesn't make sense in a world with battery powered cars

>>28557127
>EVs are in the same boat
What are you doing?
Don't put EVs in a boat

>>28562233
>doesn't make sense
Same old evtranny argument

>>28562234
>>28559175
BEV are scam

>>28562233
>The Alpenglow uses a combustion engine which burns hydrogen instead of petrol or diesel. This is different to a fuel cell that combines hydrogen with oxygen to produce water as a by-product.
Imagine turn down potential technology?

Variant race

>>28562992
Hydrogen burning ICEs are not potential technology, they are tech that has been around for decades at this point. BMW even had a limited production 7 series that was dual fuel, could use either gasoline or hydrogen, that they made 20 years ago. The engines are not what is holding hydrogen back; the high price of hydrogen at the pump, the high price of the pumps themselves, and the crappy energy density per unit of volume is. Now, as others mentioned their are groups trying to alleviate those issues, but all of them are a long ways from actually useful commerical products.

>>28562230
N 74 look amazing though.

Honk honk.

>>28564581
>crappy energy density per unit of volume
Metal hydrite storage. Still, slow filling.
Solution to slow filling exists. But comes close to fusion power and fusion weapons with no fission trigger.

Cannot have.

When hydrogen-powered camaro?

>>28559048
Thanks chatgpt

>>28565427
What manga?

>>28566179
I want get a H2 Camero

>>28567134
Just nice car

>>28550963
That would have been cool though.

>>28551347
Don't mind the screeching zoomer projecting his ultimate failure before it really hit him in the face in 5 years time.

>t. Worthless poor millennial with 3/5 dreams cars and no debt.

>>28562233
>EV tard forgets about the importance of charging the battery.

>>28556380
What we desperately need for green h2

.

>>28550953 (OP)
Should promote the cars for k-pop demon hunter ad

>>28567806
>>28562415
remember that FC outlast battery
https://x.com/fuelcellsworks/status/1956338102571532792

>>28550953 (OP)
Cool retro style vehicle. I can now fill up around Nippon station.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdTX6KzhuI4

VW

Does the car have injecting water button?

>>28556527
How does it feel to have an IQ below 110?

>>28556380
>Today, nearly all the estimated 100 million tons of hydrogen made each year comes from fossil fuels.

>>28571147
you tell us

>>28571152
Wait until we get natural geometry, carbon capture and nuclear energy running it.

>>28556527
petrol is the future

>>28571333
LOHC is the future (mirai)

>>28571152
nuclear could have fixed this
nuclear + hydrogen cars is the future we deserved
fuck boomers and billionaire niggers

>>28550953 (OP)
Give me a QRD on the pros and cons of hydrogen fuel.

>>28571449
It back up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JepCJQKGD9M

>>28571684
People are charging $180 to fill a hydrogen tank? That's absolutely evil, I gotta get in on it.

>>28571771
Honda even lease fuel card

>>28551058
They're making 100.
I'm pretty sure they can sell that many.

>>28571368
>remove reliable sources reference because "spam"
Wikipedian (Beetstra, Ad Orientem etc) are some of most retarded editors ever I see…

>>28571368
>remove reliable sources reference because "spam"
Wikipedian (Beetstra, Ad Orientem etc) are some of most retarded editors I ever see…

>>28572951
>>28571368
Agree dude. Fuck them!

>>28556389
Turbocharged 3 cylinders are cool

>>28572368
DRORO!

>>28551252
Pretending huh?

>>28573303
Same with "recent changes patrollers" commie

Ford h2 van are decent from what Ive heard

>>28550953 (OP)
you should've said a good car

>>28558079
wait, you don't think hydrogen fuel cell cars have piston engines in them, right? nobody is that retarded, right?

>>28575368
Hydrogen combustion engines exist, but they are only about half as efficient as fuel cells. Yes they are retarded. Yes hydrogen for transportation is a giant waste of effort and money.
100% nuclear power and synthetic petrol is the future in a non-retarded world.

>>28575762
Most ICE are 30% efficient, hydrogen can work rework turbocharged engine alongside nuclear fuel in

>>28575816
The problem with burning hydrogen in an ICE is that, as other have mentioned, you can't store much H2 in a car, shit needs big bulky tanks to store maybe 5 or 6 kg, which is equivalent to a 5 or 6 gallon gasoline tank. Fuel cells have double the efficiency, letting you get a more useful range, but those have their own problems, like cost; automotive grade fuel cells are more expensive than the big ass battery packs going into electric cars at this point.

>>28575877
>big ass battery packs
You have 22k to replace them.

>>28575933
Yes, battery packs on EVs are expensive. Replacement fuel cells for hydrogen cars are even more expensive, at least so far.

>>28575959
If Government didn’t cut funding bonus

>>28575959
Fuel cell will get cheaper once green taxes approved

>>28575816
The Rev Force engine is 50% efficient and can run on all types of fuel, including hydrogen.
But the problem with hydrogen is not the engine, it is the storage. The required storage tanks are heavy and the hydrogen excapes the tanks after 2 weeks.

>>28577444
Great way storage is using metal hydrides (Magnesium, Aluminium), LHOC and simply underground.

Over 60% efficiently!

Great new, acquisition help hyzon and nikola trucking industry

egg plain how that happens

>>28576038
I blame Obama troonism and Trump autism

>>28579470
Oh goodie

>>28550953 (OP)
Driving from Canada to Washington?

>>28582525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhybxN-XzhA

Goodnight hyundai enthusiast

>>28577444
>>28575762
I don't see a problem with other people driving hydrogen