Thread 28551680

>putting an f1 engine in a road car
the fuck were they smoking? also isn't that shit worth 100M if you reverse engineered it? it seems absurd that they'd let those engines go out into the wild, even if they were sold to loyal customers.

Why would anybody reverse engineer an old as fuck engine???

>>28551689
because it's an f1 engine that had more money put into it than your third world country's gdp??? are you fucking dumb???

>>28551698
Any company with the resources to do anything with what they'd learn from reverse engineering it can already match it. They'd gain little to nothing unless they got their hands on a current generation F1 engine.

>>28551698
>are you fucking dumb???
Are you? What's the issue here? They're expensive and need maintenance, but anyone who would buy one knows that.

>>28551680 (OP)
You can bet your ass that's not the actual current F1-spec engine in there.
Wikipedia says it's the PU106B which they ran in 2015, and it's been detuned pretty heavily for the road car to boot.

>>28551742
This, not a big deal.

>The AMG ONE.

As in One full second slower 0-60 time than the Corvette.

One full second slower in the quarter too.

LMAOLol

>>28551752
why do burgershit buyers only brag about straight line times hmm??

>>28551778
>muh hp/l
lol

>>28551680 (OP)
F1 engines have tolerances so tight that the teams have to run preheated oil through the engine for like half an hour before they started up to avoid breaking the thing. I guarantee any street legal engine is heavily modified from the F1 configuration, regardless of what it looks like from the outside. Come on guys I don't even follow Formula 1 and even I know this shit. Is this board full of fucking casuals?

>>28551813
>Is this board full of fucking casuals?
/o/ doesn't watch motorsports, it just argues about the validity of nurburgring times.

>>28551752
>yuronip leaf spring suspension
wut. a lot of american cars had that. it's shrimple and just werks

>>28551778
Because muttbarges can't turn lol

>>28551698
Fucking kill yourself you fucking retard

>>28551921
so why is the less powerful heavier camaro faster on two tracks.

>>28551943
The camaro is slower than the GT3 RS lol

>>28551738
even if it was a small company, they could likely benefit by avoiding pitfalls they would have failed to realize beforehand without looking at certain design elements or dimensions. it would likely be logical in hindsight, as in you'd have to see the way everything is laid out and their implications. doing that from just first principles would only be accessible to a larger company that can just iterate a design many times over with numerous parameter adjustments in a simulator before even building a prototype.

>>28551982
If a small company wanted to do that they could just buy an actual turbo-hybrid era F1 car from a racing car auction.

God damn OP is fucking stupid.

>>28551987
those are completely decommissioned without a functioning engine, you idiot. you're not going to extract any information about how the engine operates when it can't even turn. jesus christ i can't believe the level of stupidity on this board.

>>28551958

Every day we drift further from God's light.

>>28551996
Several turbo-hybrid F1 with engines have been sold in auctions, retard.

>>28552006
source: my unchecked schizophrenia. stop wasting my time due to your inability to make a point. besides, you say this as if it's somehow a better choice when this car has a fucking f1 engine anyway. your logic is nonexistent. deepthroat a shotgun.

>>28552014
Renault sold one, you fucking retard.

>>28551996
there is nothing for anyone to learn from any engine that isnt actualy currently in a lab or a secret new racecar. 99.9999 percent is all understood. everyone knows how a freevalve works but nobody can make them.

>>28552027
FreeValve or Planned Obsolescence, where do you think the investment?

>>28551969
RIP in Piece cumaro-cun-anon

>>28551698
You realize that's a sunk cost? Just because it cost that to develop doesn't mean it's worth that to anyone on the planet. Old race cars that cost hundreds of thousands to build are often for sale for relative peanuts because as soon as they're not competitive/don't meet the rule set anymore they're basically worthless to anyone but a rich guy who does track days.

>>28552719
yeah but calling this old as if it's an 80s f1 car is hyperbole when you consider the minuscule changes in performance over the years since it ran, and sunk cost isn't that drastic if you can extract the info in a non-destructive manner. it's not like within a decade you're invalidating the tech that made it possible to put 1000+hp from 1.6L without immediately exploding. that insight is still worth far more than this car ten times over, even if you wanted to develop it from scratch.

>>28552748
What exactly do you think it is that makes an old F1 engine magic? This isn't star wars, there isn't some borderline magic tech that is being hidden from you that if only you could get your hands on it you could mimick it. Those engines only made more power because they
>have a lot of R&D into optimizing flow
>use good materials and well engineered internals
>rev to the moon
>run on incredibly good race fuel
If you took apart an 80s F1 engine and a sport bike engine from the 2000s you'd have a stroke because they look almost exactly the same only smaller. There's no magic, it's just about

Also, they don't last. You don't see small engines making massive power and lasting forever because it just doesn't work that way, stresses and wear are inherently higher when you're revving to 15,000rpm than when you're making the same power on an engine with 4x the displacement that only revs to 7,000rpm.

>>28552755
>There's no magic, it's just about
*it's just about revs

Big engine must have eaten my text for revealing the secret to you.

>>28552679
fuck guys
I think it's funny