Thread 28555840

> 400 horsepower PHEV
Why has the domestic market abandoned the mini van? I haven’t even seen a late model example of the four offerings right now. Not counting the electric vw bus.

The official story is they sell less well and are less profitable than large suvs. And women find them unfashionable. But I think a big part of it is they are lazy and just don't want to update them with new powertrains, platforms and interiors. Kia sells the only new-ish minivan based on a 2020 esque platform that also underlies their compact and midsize suvs (the telluride is on a different platform - older - and I dunno what the new telluride runs on)

If they put effort into it - it would sell.

>>28556002
That’s why buick should bring the gl8 to us market

>>28556030
The rebadged Opels were not that bad I sat inside one at an auto show (Lucerne?) and it was actually quite nice.
But, PHEV are silly heavy - mild hybrid + v6 makes far more sense for the American market given current battery tech (500+ lbs for a PHEV battery)
Buick isn't a real company - they sell rebadged Daewoo Korean compact/subcompact suvs - and the larger products are just rebadged Chebby products with more chrome - though they do have a few unique features in some of the Avenir top trims now.

If they want to save Buick they should make a whole lineup of offfroad ready unibody suvs - in every size from xs to xl - and a minivan and make buick the off road brand to compete with jeep but offer more refined vehicles with front and rear independent suspension + unibody suvs but with locking diffs and skid plates and chunky tires and decent approach/descent angles

>>28556002
>they are lazy
The guys making product line decisions are not the ones doing the work. It's a business case, cost vs. Payoff. And the "doesn't sell as well" isn't as big an issue as the profitability. Most car makers have consolidated their lineup to the point that most of the small and midsize SUVs are basically economy cars stretched, lifted, and given big plastic fenders. When you can sell that for now money than a minivan (the practical flat floor and sliding doors of which mean it has to be it's own design) the minivan is much more expensive to make. It does the job (ie school and grocery runs) better than any SUV, but normies don't realize that a nuBlazer is built shoddier than cavalier used to be and are still paying a premium as if it were built like a k10 Blazer. Which it fundamentally isn't, but car buyers are mostly women and women are mostly stupid.

>>28556038
This makes me think you don’t know shit about GM. First of all, they sell around half their total sales to China. Where Buick IS its own brand, own company. Second of all Daewoo is gone, its GM korea now and they only make one platform compact suv at the moment.
>>28556359
The nuBlazer is definitely way higher quality than the cavalier but they missed an opportunity to steal 4runner market share using the colorado platform.

>>28555840 (OP)
> 950 miles full range
Holy shit. Road trip queen.

>>28556359
>And the "doesn't sell as well" isn't as big an issue as the profitability
That's wrong. Selling 100,000 vehicles at 15% profit margin >>> selling 10,000 vehicles at 30% profit margin.
>When you can sell that for nore money than a minivan
No. Minivans aren't cheap. They range from $37k starting to $60k optioned.