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>>28524365

Looking at buying a Honda? Post here and we'll tell you our elitist asshole opinions!
Need help identifying a chassis?

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/chassis-suspension/1312-honda-chassis-code-checklist/

Switching from double wishbone to McPherson was a mistake

>>28560389
So true.

>>28560389
Dual axis strut > double wishbones

>>28560526
Based super struts, when the FK8 first came out I thought it was double wishbone with that knuckle, but it was a strut.

>>28560389
the best Si gen (8th) has Mcphersons :)

>>28560549
You shut your whore mouth and keep it shut.

>>28560627
8th gen's K20 has proper 3 lobe VTEC though

>>28560771
And it looks worse than anything that came before
Honda hasnt made a cool car since the turn of the millennium
Cope all you want

Goddammit I want a fucking 1st gen Insight, but all I ever find are automatics and/or salvage titles

>>28562182
what are the
>FD2 Type R
>FK2 Type R
>8th gen Si
>FK8 Type R
>FC3 Si
>FL5 Type R
>S2000
>Integra/RSX
>Fit
>CL7 Euro R
>S660
>NSX
Honda still makes cool cars, they're just not as amazing as the older ones

>EK3 Civic
>one day I suddenly started hearing pinging and the engine started burning oil
>traced it down to a PCV valve stuck open, swap it, and the engine goes back to running fine
>1000Km later it starts pinging and burning oil again
Once it starts, it never stops

>>28562254
Sedans are gay and every one on your list would be cooler as a 2 door.
The s2k and nsx are both millennium cars which leaves the s660 as the only new honda that is cool.

It's about time to rebuild the B21, how cooked am I? The oil leaking and burning has become too much to ignore. Thinking of doing a B20 head swap in the process to increase compression for a performance boost, since there's so little aftermarket for this bastard

>>28562823
>sedans
>gay
Are you high?
>The s2k and nsx are both millennium cars
I was referring to the NC1 NSX, not the NA1/2. FC3 is the 10th gen coupe, the 8th gen Si was a coupe initially, and of the cars I listed only 2 are outright sedans (FD2 and CL7). Everything else is either a 5 door hatchback or coupe/roadster.

>>28560386 (OP)
Trying to decide if I should buy this 8th gen Accord 2.2 DTEC
The car itself is a 2012 Honda Accord Tourer. It's the 8th gen (CW) "Euro Accord" body. 2.2 D-TEC Diesel, 150 hp, 5 Speed Automatic. It's listed for €6900
I'm mostly worried about getting it since, despite being quite clean optically, it has 234.360 km on the clock. It's 1st owner, full service history at Honda ("no gaps"). Not only that, but it got new injectors 2 years ago at 214.268 km.
I didn't find any decent documentation of issues these cars have. People mostly mention small things which aren't catastrophic. I couldn't find anything about the engine in terms of issues outside that it needs a regular service (same for the gearbox).
The car is about 4 hours away, so before I take the tour to inspect it further, I want to know if there's anything catastrophic these cars are known for.
I hope this is the right place to ask, and thanks in advance.

20mm spacers on for now. Still eventually want the sw388s, our roads fucking suck here so I'm scared to drop $4k on them, but the stock wheels on Spoon springs are pretty fucking kino.

>>28563298
Rust. Check the sills and get underneath to look at the rear subframe if you can. Otherwise should require nothing except basic service bits (filters, oil, etc.). For 7th-9th gen Accords, in terms of engine, gearbox, etc., if maintained, should outlive the sun.

>>28563653
>For 7th-9th gen Accords, in terms of engine, gearbox, etc., if maintained, should outlive the sun.
Facts, it can be a little aggravating fixing any leaks that come up and refreshing any suspension parts needed, but it's literally an unlimited car glitch if you just fucking take care of it.

EK Anon... you got a beast, bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lMus2NOhCg

>>28563290
More than two doors is a taxi.
5 door hatchbacks are sedans, 5 door coupes are sedans. Cope all you want, you'll never be a proper enthusiasts car

Wahoo!

>>28563857
The only one coping here is you, anon
>5 door hatchbacks are sedans
Lolwat

>>28563857
What a shitty opinion to have. Post your car. Bread on hood. This is a bus rider tier take.

>>28563866
BING BING WAHOO!

BING BING WAHOO!

>>28563857
Here's your RWD twin turbo large displacment 2 door manual enthusiast car, bro

What if one of my doors doesn't open from the outside and another one will only manually unlock? It's basically a coupe at that point.

>>28564347
I forgot to reply to >>28563857

Let's-a go!

>>28563857
This. Cannot wait for the Prelude to come out. First proper car Honda has made in so many years. I hope they don't axe it for the American market like they love to do with coupes.

>>28564673
The engine doesn't even drive the wheels 99% of the time. It's mostly just a generator for the hybrid system. Give me a sport sedan over this any day. That said I do like it's design, it would just be better with ICE actually hooked up to a transmission. Give us a Type R version with a SH-AWD system and this thing would have dealerships slapping 5-10k markups on it and still selling.

>>28564673
I'd rather a 9th gen without rust.

>>28564673
Anon, it's hideous.

Weeeeeee

CVT 1.5T 10th gen anon here, passed over 70k miles today and everything is perfect

>>28567064
I miss round lights very much. Friend cars.

What's the best Fit to get?
The 2017 RS facelift has the best aesthetic imo, but the egg shape in general isn't really my thing.

>>28567411
They're all eggshaped

>>28567161
Back in the day the US decided you could only have the standard square or round headlight in your car. Many abortions were seen.

>>28568176
>sealed glass headlight that doesn't fade to shit instantly and you just easily replace the whole thing cheap instead of bulbs in a convoluted expensive headlight assembly
The horror

>>28568153
I know. I'd love a civic, but the fit is so much more practical for my purposes.

>>28568208
Get one without a sunroof because weight.

>>28568231
I've never understood the benefit of a sunroof. Just another source of glare.

>>28568255
>I've never understood the benefit of a sunroof.
Same, just open the window or put A/C on minimum fan speed for a nice cooling dehumidifying effect
>roof is less rigid because there's a hole in it
>sunroof assembly is actually fucking huge and adds weight to the highest point of the car
>steals a lot of headroom because said sunroof assembly
>debris can get in the drains and flood your car out when it rains
>the thing can break and than has to be manually cranked open which then means you'll never use it because it's so expensive to fix

I just sold my manual 97 Sn95 Mustang GT
And now I need an auto daily driver so I can drive in this cramped city to work and rush hour, but also would like it peppy enough to enjoy on the twisty mountain roads on the weekends

Ideally I'd grab a 350z/g35 but it's out of my budget rn

So for a cheap fun D.D that's not bad on gas and sporty I was thinking an auto:
- 5th Gen Prelude (200hp)

-4th Gen Prelude (ideally the vtec trim but most likely the Si 160hp is all ill find)

- Base RSX (160hp) same engine as the EP3 Si

- CG2 accord coupe v6 (200hp & 190Trq)

-7th Gen Celica GT (ideally GT-S trim but most likely all I'll find is GT trims 140hp)

-5th Gen Celica GT-S (130hp)

So my Honda GangGang what yall think would make the most fun Autotragic Daily Driver for work in a mega steep hilly City in the PNW that i could enjoy a bit driving the twisty West Coast & Mountain Roads??

TSX has front double wishbone and 205hp 2006 on. Easier to find than a V6 coupe or non shitbox RSX.

>>28571451
Based TSX, I just don't want the fuccbois destroying them but luckily they don't like rather heavy sedans so they generally stay tastefully driven.

>>28571078
>So my Honda GangGang what yall think would make the most fun Autotragic Daily Driver for work in a mega steep hilly City in the PNW that i could enjoy a bit driving the twisty West Coast & Mountain Roads
Get a Honda Accord 2.4L automatic from 2003-2012, it's the most fun fuel sipper cruiser there is.

>>28571451
Yeah but most of them are autos unfortunately
It is a good car i like mine a lot.

got new RT615K+s today, fresh rubber is always nice

>>28571546
>Yeah but most of them are autos unfortunately
Based cruisers, K24 5AT is the ultimate road trip car

>>28571557
Kek the 10th gen Civics with Falken grippy bois are so fucking fast in my local canyons, I still like my ZIEX A/S because they grip okay and last a while but damn.

>>28571562
>the ultimate road trip car
I love you buddy, but you picked the worst possible example. I don't think a 5at tsx would beat this mileage on a long highway or b road stretch and its not like you're rowing gears in that situation

>>28571568
It might come close or match it if the torque converter goes into lockup, I don't know the speed it takes when cruising to make it lock but when accelerating the 5AT at WOT, you get to 100 mph, the rpm stays the same but the car keeps accelerating, it's the most unusual feeling but I guess it works.

>>28571562
>Kek the 10th gen Civics with Falken grippy bois are so fucking fast in my local canyons
They genuinely need so little to handle extremely well. Even with the factory struts/springs, a stiffer rear sway bar and RMM inserts/new RMM helps so much

>>28571562
The ziex 950 are not bad for the price. I got around 15k miles from the fronts and the rears still look great.

>>28571451
>Easier to find than a V6 coupe
In my neck of the woods, all the good TSXes have been:
>crashed by mexicans
>parted out by mexicans
>beat to fuck, riced and sold for 8k despite having damn near 300k miles, by mexicans
>stolen by mexicans
automatic v6 coupes are very easy to come by, you see more 6-6 coupes than TSXes.

>>28571575
yes, only if you drive patiently enough to keep the TC in lockup. at that point the AT logic would be lugging the hell out of the engine.
wish someone would make a tune for ATs that kept it in lockup as much as possible, because the torque converter absolutely sucks ass
>going up hill on interstate
>prod the throttle to make it downshift
>instead of downshifting, it unlocks the converter
>rpm goes up by 1000 but you feel like you're accelerating even less bc of the torque converter loss

>>28571578
>stiffer rear swaybar
those cars love to oversteer to begin with, aftermarket rear swaybar would make it a huge liability on wet backroads.

>>28571680
Somebody really needs to make a trans tune for TSXs and CMs because these motherfuckers love to just lug on a steep uphill, I'm often stuck going 60 mph with light throttle on the freeway uphill in 5th gear when 4th gear would be ideal, at least TSX owners can slap the shifter to the side and manually put it in 4th, a CM you can only select 1 2 or D3 which are great, but then you're revving the tits off it to go 80 mph in 3rd

>>28571680
>those cars love to oversteer to begin with, aftermarket rear swaybar would make it a huge liability on wet backroads.
I went from the OEM FK7 bar to the Si one and it's more neutral than anything. It's a mild increase from 16.5mm to 18mm, the Type R bar would also fit but that's a 20.5mm bar and I don't want to be too tail-happy

why does honda refuse to make a new S2000? because it would cut into sales of the type R?

>>28571710
It's because people wouldn't buy it Anon, they were incredibly expensive when new in 2000 (literally 60 grand in today's money for a roadster), that's a very hard purchase to justify, especially when it's hard enough selling an FL5 Civic Type R for $47,000 or whatever they're going for, and those things are usable enough for your daily drive and it's still not a huge volume of them rolling around.

>>28571710
>>28571717
they really should just make a honda-flavored miata. no supercar shit like in the s2k, just RWD with "an" engine, stiff chassis and a 6 speed manual. Honda is so skilled at suspension design that it can't-not be good.

>>28571725
It takes a lot of money for for Honda to design a platform to build cars Anon, the last thing Honda wants to due is spend a bunch of money on a roadster that isn't gonna be a volume car, they're trying to sell things, the MX-5 and CX crossovers are Mazdas bread and butter, those things never sit around on dealerships, meanwhile Honda has no problem selling the fuck out of the Civic platform as well as the CR-V/Accord platform they both ride on, they can't lose money and the price is reasonable because they pump em out by the thousands a month (literally over 20,000 Civics leave Ohio a month), but making a RWD sport coupe or a convertible would mean engineering a whole new car from scratch means the thing cannot ever be sold cheap enough no matter how reasonable the car is because they need to recoup R&D costs.

Iss cute

I swear my 2016 Honda accord AC just flat sucks. Is this typical or is there something else going on? Like it's not like it isn't cold, but it isn't ice cold either

>>28571876
Is the recirculate button on? If it's not lit up, that means your car is sucking in hotter, more humid air from the outside, and forcing the evaporator core to dehumidify and cool it, thus making you not get the "MAX A/C"

>>28571878
Yeah it is. I basically crank the fan to max and recirculate the air and I'm always surprised how I still feel like if it shut off for 30 seconds id roast. I feel it still cooling the interior, but once it gets above 90 I'm like dying out here in these black leather seats kek

>>28571876
My accord ac kind of sucks too. It gets really cold when it is in the low 80s and not too humid, but any hotter than that and it really struggles.

>>28571900
Yeah you might just be dealing with extreme weather Anon, when I'm in the California desert in 90+ degrees, I gotta go full blast A/C just to be right on the edge of not miserable despite my A/C compressor being new and charged at the dealer.

>>28571876
Theres a 10 year extension on the warranty of most 10th gens for the AC condenser.

>haul ass down the back roads in my 7th gen Civic
>pass a 6th gen doing the same thing in the other lane

>>28572203
Based, shitbox battle

>>28572203
he'll yea brother

Its been a couple of months with my 2.0t accord , the first car I ever really bought and I just wanna say I love it. That is all.

>>28573005
That's dope Anon, I'm glad the car's working out, those things rip.

>>28572203
I'm fearful of pushing my 6th gen these days. At this point it's irreplaceable. Sucks desu,

>>28572203
I'm fearful of pushing my 6th gen these days. At this point it's irreplaceable. Sucks desu.

>>28573581
Its an 6th gen civic, just send it

>>28568191
>rummage or Chinese manufacturer
>led
It twenty 25 grandpa

repainting my hood today so I get to drive around without it for another 24hrs

>>28575025
Damn that L15B is gonna go so fast with all that heatsoak rising out

Finally got my exhaust welded up. Had a flex and V band added while deleted the annoying donut flange and 3 bolt flange. It sounds awesome now and very quiet. It's basically impossible to get exhaust work done at an actual shop without a cat ever since Biden got elected so I'm happy I had a welder fren.

>>28575585
It was a little sketchy getting it in the air, and very dirty. He lives innawoods. kek

>>28575585
>>28575586
That's super dope you can even get away with driving without a cat, I could never get away with that in CA, they do a visual on your shit and you can't have a check engine light

>>28575594
Yeah I got the car without one and had zero intention of replacing it. Way too much money. Luckily the two defoulers I have on the downstream O2 is enough to not trigger an engine code. Though my upstream seems to be dead already and that's the expensive one.

Next up if I can get some EG8 parts sold is a set of BC coilovers. I opted not to refresh these Tein Flex Z coils. Their support is still very lacking in the US.

Why are spacers on springs such a cheat code for perfecting the oem wheels?

>>28575612
Honda's OEM wheels are perfection, it's just Honda itself is obsessed with narrowing the track on their cars for some reason.

>>28575612
That looks excellent. I almost got a set of ITS wheels but Honda changing the pattern to 5x120 fucked it up for me. I'm happy with the Enkei RP-01s though. I might add a small spacer to the rear myself.

>>28575598
>BC coilovers
Honestly avoid them. BCs can be alright but for their price they're worse than a good set of shocks+springs. If you're willing to spend a bit more money get KW V1s or Ground Control Koni Yellows, both are ~$1700. Fortune Auto 500s are extremely good but they're pushing $2k

Hood reinstalled, car washed + ceramic coated. Feels nice having it shiny.

I'm looking to buy an 8th gen Honda Civic Si, since its cheap and looks fun to drive. But I found a good deal on a 2003 Honda Civic Si hatchback. The only problem being compression loss. Would the hatchback still be fun to drive or should I stick with the 8th gen?

>>28576613
That is rough

>>28576613
8th gens have the good K20 and much better suspension tuning out of the box

>>28576613
>Would the hatchback still be fun to drive
Maybe for a while and then it will cost $$$ or time + $

>>28576616
>>28576623
>>28576614

I'll stick with 8th gen. I just need to keep my eyes open for one that's been well maintained.

>2008 civic type r
>20,000 miles
>$100,000

lads i need a good old reliable beast to sit on my street most of the time doing nothing and occasionally get used to lump me and some friends out of the city and into the countryside and occasionally i’ll use it to drive 2h to see the gf. nothing too flashy. got 6 grand to play with. what do i go for? i’m sure i’ll drive it here and there aside from that but certainly not daily or maybe even weekly

>>28576829
is it an FD2 type r with 0 miles? has to be

>>28579928
never mind, my dumbass didn't see you posted the miles
that is expensive for sure

le shitbox civic has no AC again (all the freon leaked out) and it's throwing a code for cat converter issues
I shouldn't be having this many problems in a 11-yo car

>>28579873
Yeah you need a 2003 to newest Accord you can afford for 6 grand

>>28576829
Fly to Japan, buy one for $15k, import it.

>>28580087
>import it
Won't be able to until 2033 if in the US, unless you're willing to prove it's close enough to a USDM one that it can be exempted

>>28579928
It's the Mugen RR

>>28580101
it's acura saar

I love Civics.

are the hybrid fit / jazz models good?

thinking of getting some second hand imported one (uk)

My gfs 09 fit is finally in a good state
We've done:
Coilovers, control arms, cv axles, swaybar links, tie rods, brakes all around, exhaust hangers, engine oil, tranny fluid, replaced the clutch master and slave with parts from a civic si with a stainless braided line tying them together, cabin and engine air filter, replaced her AC compressor clutch because she got a recharge that didn't fix anything and I didn't want to deal with getting it purged to replace the OEM compressor for some shitty chink one. A shop quoted 1200 bucks to do the compressor, and I did it for 80 bucks in parts and 90 bucks in tools (she bought me a pulley puller set and icon snap ring pliers set, good deal)
AC works like a charm now.
Only other things on the to do list are: aftermarket exhaust (probably yonaka), new wheels, good tires, and a full respray. Planning on getting a 60gal compressor next year when I have more space and doing some pink sparkly bullshit. Might do a custom widebody because of a few spots of wheel well rust on one corner, idk

Bros... I got the igla installed... My shit is officially un-stealable

>>28582349
how we looking tonight

>>28582350
Car looks based as shit Anon, just keep waxing it and doing fluids and you will have a hot car forever.

>>28582355
Thank you I love you

>>28582349
My dad got the new Integra but he got a god damn automatic. Fuckin shame. He taught me how to drive stick in an 03 accord almost 20 years ago now. That tlx is sexy, be a ripper with a 6 speed, kind of a shame they don't offer it

>>28582450
Honestly anon, those 2.0t/3.0t TLXs rip so hard, you're probably wasting powertrain torque fucking around dipping a clutch and moving a stupid shifter around, the 10AT bangs gears so fucking fast and you have 10 forward ratios so close to each other, any torque converter loss is just minimal, it's the same reason your dad got the CVT Integra, the engine does so much work at 1800rpm to 5500 rpm when it comes to torqueing around down, you don't need to have a manual transmission to wring it out like back in the day.

>>28582488
it js about driving pleasure not numbers, speed, or efficiency.
lol

>>28582488
Honestly he's just old and getting lazy, he said he didn't want the hassle. I've driven it, it's fast and comfy, it's just not inspiring to me. Seeing how he drives though it kinda is more car than he needs. Accelerates slow, hardly speeds, never gets the rpms high, never puts it in sport mode

>>28582538
>never gets the rpms high
Based old man, just cruising around, building boost on his 1.5T.

Well fuck. Went to a test & tune in my FK7 last night and was hoping for a low-14sec/high 13sec pass, guessing the weather/air density wasn't great because the quickest/fastest I went was a 14.9@96mph; a whole 2/10ths slower and nearly 2mph down my previous quickest time despite making ~40whp less back then

>bought my first car
>automatic 7th generation civic
>literally can't drive for shit
>panicking at the wheel
>still don't trust myself to do highway
>have almost hit someone several times
>have ran red lights not out of not paying attention but out of nervousness and not wanting to cause an accident by stopping at a yellow too early or something
>constantly get lost because i just can't intuit the map of the area I grew up in
>had a fender bender today

I drive with no radio and no phone paying rapt attention and doing it by the book.
I'm 30 years old
I think I have a genuine disability and need to kill myself.

>>28583380
It's okay anon some people are just meant to ride the bus

>>28583380
Practice in an area you know.

>>28583380
>I drive with no radio and no phone paying rapt attention and doing it by the book.
You should honestly put on a good playlist and relax, when I first started driving I was nervious because my bitch ass mother in the seat next to me, when I started driving by myself listening to tunes and relaxing, it was like I had driven all my life.

I’m almost ready to get new headlights for my shitvic, just to replace the old hazy ones and make it a little more “modern”.
Should I get DRLs or projectors?

>>28583981
The car in question.

>>28583981
Looks shit
>>28583984
Would look clean if you sanded, 2k cleared them (spraymax 2k clear), and put some better bulbs in

>>28583999
Thank you for providing your wisdom, trips of truth.

>>28583981
Aftermarket lights are always shit.

I want to build an engine
What if I just bought a l15a7 and built it, forged rods, pistons, honed the cylinders, etc
I might have a use for a built l15a7 someday

08 Civic Si
After a year, I'm not sure if I really like this car as much as I thought I would.

Vtec screaming at 8k rpm is fun, the S2000 font speedometer is great, the car interior really feels spartan. Wanting something nicer, and maybe a TL Type-S is the right move.

>>28584091
I'm thinking a TL Type-S or Accord V6 6-6 would be killer daily, either that or you keep the Civic Si for the weekends, and get a Honda Accord for daily cruising, could by V6 6MT could be K24 but it would have way more low end torque and comfort.

Of honda's current new lineup, what shit out there is the best?

>>28584143
I used to think they were cringe but I changed my mind, the 2.0L Civic sports and the Accord 2.0L with the hybrid setup are amazing daily cars.

>>28584143
Is there anything with a 2.0+ L NA engine? Because that, probably

>>28584260
The Civics are such good fuckin basic dailys now, I love Accord but those are basically luxury hybrids now, the days of an old 2.4L car with no turbo on some 15 or 16 inch wheels are gone, you're gonna have to get a base Civic to get that sweet basic midsize car.

>>28584266
Do they make a 2dr civic or accord anymore?

>>28584270
They're unfortunately gone, it's surprising Honda is even delivering us a Prelude that is a 2 DR coupe that rides on the Civic platform.

>>28584060
- Block: doesn't have to be an L15B7 one specifically, they're all identical from 2017 onwards (p/n is 11000-59B-010). The alternator mounting location was changed then, so if you get a later block it'll be fine.
- Head: got two options, twinscroll or single port. Former has exhaust VTEC and builds boost earlier, latter lacks VTEC and is better for peak power.
- Crankshaft: OEM one is fine, more rod options are available for the L15B crank vs the L15C (small vs larger journal size)
- Pistons: OEM has 2 options, 10.3:1 and 10.6:1 compression ratios. Former has an internal oil channel and 1 squirter, latter lacks the internal channel and has 2 squirters. JE Pistons, Wiseco, and Traum all make forged 2816 aluminum pistons, all in the 10 to 10.6:1 range. If the block is new, go for a 73mm bore; if old or has scuffs in the bores go for 73.5mm
- Connecting rods: go for Brian Crower, Saenz, or Carrillo, block will need to be notched further to clear them.
- Oil pump/pan: OEM pump gears are trash, upgrade to a proper billet one from Boundary if you want to make good power. Oil pan can use a baffle or get one with it already welded in.
- Valvetrain: Intake cams are identical between the two heads, Si/Accord/CR-V cam has more lift on the HPFP lobe. For the exhaust cam go for one from Kelford, they and Brian Crower have upgraded valvesprings/retainers available. Twinscroll head has no options beyond OEM.
- Head studs/gasket: Two Step Performance has a kit from ARP, Optitorque has one as well. Hayabusa head studs are an option but they have to be installed backwards. OEM gasket is fine.
- Valves: only option is from Ferrea, they're very good.
Head porting is an option, but not entirely necessary.

>>28584287
Ah shit I'm a dumbass, thought you meant the turbo L15s rather than the Fit/Jazz engine

>>28584288
That's still legit though, I can't wait till L15B motors start coming out of CR-Vs Accords for closer price to K24, the things were built for boost, there's a CivicAnon here with like 250HP with a tune on his L15B and it's not even a built motor, K series takes so much modification and a tune just to get 240HP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FbJtMIr1bM

>>28560389
red

>>28584290
I'd know, I've got a tuned 10th gen hatch. Mine makes 212 to the hub and that should be roughly 240-250 at the crank. Only actual performance part is a PRL cold air intake to boot. Still on the stock turbo, downpipe, exhaust, and haven't even taken the head off yet.

>>28584296
God 10th gen+ are based, I'm like 130hp at the wheels and can get into enough trouble as it is

>>28584300
Don't even need to do much to get them to handle well either. Rear sway bars are like a 1-1.5 hour job and with some massaging/cutting you can fit 295s up front.

>>28584287
>>28584288
Building a fit engine and then turboing it would be cool though

>been on the lookout for 2.0T accord manual for awhile
>finally see one after months
>hesitating to buy
why am i like this...

>>28583380
Sounds like you need to drive a shit ton more man. Go on a road trip or something.

>pick a color option
>black
>grey
>silver (lighter grey)
>white
>red
Their suvs have better color options than the Civic ffs

I bought a 2017 Honda civic coupe with the 1.5L turbo. I’ve heard this engine has an engine oil dilution issue, is this true? Is this car a ticking time bomb? It’s got 90k miles on it. Also, it’s my first car :)

>>28587026
I heard it was mostly in cold climates.

Final boss of CM drivers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhYA2iNJUX0

>>28587036
Cold climates, not letting the car warm up fully, and taking short trips

>>28587375
This, just change the oil every few months or 3000 miles and you'll be fine, all I do are short trips on oil that isn't fully warmed up and it runs fine, a 90,000 mile Civic is like a little baby.

I really wish Honda would make something to rival the 718 and the A110. Their current offerings are so boring.

>>28587402
The Civic Type R is their Cayman rival in price, but I don't know if Honda is gonna drop any mid engine cars, but the FL5 civic is a pretty badass daily, 315HP isn't a joke and you can fit four people in there with luggage.

base third gen integra or base fifth gen prelude, which would you buy?

>>28587026
>>28587036
>>28587375
Everyone says those low displacement turbo engines are shit and don't make it as far as the 2.0, 2.4l NAs
All the downsides of a turbo (reliability) none of the upsides (it's still a 1.5 with a tiny turbo) it's all a fuel efficiency virtue signal (manufacturer tax cuts)

>>28587479
'Lude

>>28587411
I know that lots of people want a car that can do everything these days but I'm really not that interested in dual-purpose. I'll never have GMA money, and I'm not prepared to drop GT3 money any time soon, but I would love if Honda would put out something midship that revs.

>>28587402
Honda hasn't been good for decades, and they really haven't shown any sign of changing that unfortunately.
Nothing but fat sedans now

>>28587549
TRVKE

>>28587549
Honda peaked in 2014 with the last of the second gen fits
Corolla hatch is the new civic desu wa

>>28587724
>Corolla hatch is the new civic desu
So unfortunately true, Corolla hatch is such a qt my sister took notice because it's a hatch with a J VIN number.

>>28587026
I heard it was an issue in the 2016 model and fixed in everything that came after.

>>28587728
Shame it's CVT only. At least it's a decent one though.

>>28587850
True, knock on wood my fuckin car doesn't blow up because hardest part would be having to choose between the rolla or the civic, they're both really nice.

>>28587724
>Corolla hatch is the new civic desu wa

AI reckons a cold air intake on the R18Z1 could add 5-10 horsepower. Regular Car Reviews regularly mocks people putting intakes on their engines.
Who is correct?

>>28587941
>5-10 horsepower
Why even bother

>>28587941
The stock air intake is the best intake for Honda engines, it may not make all the sweet induction noises of a cold air intake, but the factory intake intakes air from an area where the air is in fact cold.

Lads

How difficult would replacing a K20A6 with a K24A3 be? ECU and pedal assembly would be swapped over too, but would there be anything else or anything unexpected?

The K24 car is rusted to shit, but want to make the most of what I can short of just selling parts.

>>28587941
Its worth it for induction sound alone. Especially on the v6s and turbo cars. The v6 CM Accord I had with an intake made the nastiest induction sounds, and it really woke up the turbo sounds on my FK8 and FL5.

>>28587941
cheap CAIs give bad filtering a lot of the time, it'll fuck your engine up if you drive thru dust and shit a lot.

>>28587549
Dont hate the player, hate the game.

>>28588013
Exhaust might need work to make the headers line up. Deck height is different between K20 and K24.

>>28588248
I'd be swapping the exhaust too - the K24 is from an otherwise identical Mk7 Accord so same chassis etc.. One question mark really is wire harness since the K24 has a higher spec infotainment system.

new to me 2002 honder

>>28588635
>two Fits
based

is a k swap really the best option? and if so should i do it? the k20 or 24 isnt that expensive and ive thought about doing it when i buy a civic

I found a GD3 sport trim manual Fit near me for 900$ with 120,000 miles on it. No rust except a small patch rear quarter panel, needs an o2 sensor, and here’s the rub: the electric power steering is glitchy, the second the car is on, even with the wheels off the ground, the steering wheel turns all the way to the left.
He has replaced the rack, replace the eps module, and tried a pine 4 and 9 jump to reprogram things. These have not worked.
According to him the local honda dealer refuses to reset the torque sensor (the likely problem) from the new rack because they did not install it themselves.

Has anyone on /o/ dealt with this shit?
Is it as easy as just using a honda clone scanner to reset the torque sensor? Should i get a third rack and see if that does it?
It’s absolutely not an alignment issue.
I’m excited about the car and want to get it but I want to be sure there’s a fix first.

>>28588965
Oops meant pin 4/9. Not pine lol

>>28588839
K24 is based, I have a shitty Accord and it's best car ever

>>28588965
>but I want to be sure there’s a fix first.
There is.

>>28589211
Imagine working on that shit, an FA/FG Civic is a mechanical asshole when they shoehorn the K series in it, need a wheel off just to do a belt.

>>28589211
A k24 wouldn’t address the eps module lr torque sensor anon lol

Engine swapping to a smaller engine for more room in the bay
Fuck power

>>28589411
Based small engine enjoyed, my car is so fucking slow but there's so much room to service it.

>>28588839
No, J swap is the best option always.

just saw a CM5 go *splat* after losing a ball joint exiting a gas station. CM5 moment.

>>28588255
>i'd be swapping the exhaust too
good shit. swapping the whole system is absolutely the best way to do it
>One question mark really is wire harness since the K24 has a higher spec infotainment system.
those would be body/dash harnesses, which are very much separate to the engine/trans harness.

>>28590251
Shame

Why the fuck am I thinking about a K20C4/6MT swap into my CVT FK7, I don't have $10k just lying around and everything bar the axles is the easy part.

>>28591244
I would just rock the FK7 or trade it for a CV2 Accord that's gonna have a 2.0T and a 6 speed already in it, it might be a dad cruiser but it does rip and would be a get in it and go situation, and you might be able to finance the cost of what difference there is to get into a CV2.

>>28591259
I could try a 6MT swap since it's at least "easier", no need for custom axles or fucking around with aftermarket ECUs. Downside with it is it'll still cost 7-9k USD and the transmission will shit itself with hard launches.

>>28591456
>s it'll still cost 7-9k USD
Fug Anon, I personally wouldn't modify anything, if a 6 speed would make having a Civic fun, maybe trading into a used Civic Si might be the right play, you get the higher output 1.5T and a factory 6 speed that you didn't have to mess around installing, which would also destroy the value of the FK7, you're not gonna find a buyer come time to sell or trade who things a modified 6 speed swap adds value, but a stock civic Si 6MT will have value for someone looking for an Si when you want to sell it.

>>28591464
It's already got a tune, CAI, new struts/springs, and a cut-up hood. Resale value is one of the lowest concerns on my mind at the moment. I'd like to keep it running for as long as possible, and while the CVT is fine I doubt it'll survive 10+ years of use/abuse

>>28592121
Start slowly getting the parts and when the cvt craps out it's swap time.

all my hondas climate control never fully turns off. i can still control the temp when it's off, it just blows really low. any other car brands does this?

>>28592518
That's normal for a car with the air re-circulation button turned off when the climate control is off, it is ideal when climate control is off to have some sort of fresh air draft it's way into the car, but if you want your vents totally sealed from the outside air, hit the re-circulation button and you won't get that low draft of air coming from the vents as you drive.

Thought my Fit 5MT had an oil leak.
Was just the oil filter, small random pinprick. Fucking Fram.
What’s the best Oil Filter if I can’t find Wix?

>>28592572
OEM

>>28592575
I’ll swing by the stealership tomorrow then

>'97 Civic 1.5
>last morning the immobilizer didn't recognize my key and didn't even crank the engine (all Euro spec EK Civics have factory immos), finnally started when I flipped the key around in the ignition barrel
>did the same thing in the afternoon
>in the evening it stopped recognizing keys altogether, no matter the key position and even with the spare key, just have a flashing immobilizer indicator on the dash and no crank at all
My first guess would be the immobilizer reader module around the ignition barrel acting up, but last I checked doesn't the immo just cut power to the fuel pump and injectors? It should still crank, right? Is there a chance it could be a battery on its last legs instead?

anyone in western Sydney looking to buy a 2010 civic sport manual in black with 214k odo.
it's in really good condition, no accidents or scratches. a couple small hail dents in the roof.
I'm getting the my26 civic lx and I gotta unload the old girl. 6 months rego left.

Ay I got a 95 Del Sol Si (D16z6), I need to replace the O2 sensor in the engine bay. "Replace" is kind of a gentle word... the dude I bought it from (for some fucking reason) cut the wire and it's just fucking hanging there not attached to anything. Which is fucking up the VTEC (I'm hoping it's what is fucking it up since I can fix that), and making it have carkinson's whenever I'm in VTEC range.
Rock Auto has the upstream sensor, but not the downstream one. Really I just NEED the upstream one, but it recommends replacing them in pairs, so I might as well get a downstream one too right?

I'm not really well versed in mechanics and engines and shit, so I don't know if all the generic results coming up for "95 del sol si downstream oxygen sensor" will actually work for my car or not.

>haven’t been on /hg/ in like 6-7 years
>see shingu posts
Based
>(is he still delivering pizzas?)
>no del posts
He’s too rich for us now

Anyways, I used to be in an fa5
>ktuned everything
>hybrid racing everything
>k24a2 block
>k20z3 head with dc 3.2’s
>s2 header/exhaust
driven a lot of cars since but this is still probably my favorite of all time

>>28594384
Based K series enjoyer, I've driven large V6 engines and little ass 4 cylinder engines, and a good old K24 block just delivers power in a way that makes you want it forever.

>1300 for used engine in USA
>400 for used engine in Canada
Yeah I'm going over the border. That 900 bucks is a brand new OEM crankshaft, all the bearings ill need to build the bottom end, and a nice hks headgasket

>>28594341
No. If the codes are just reading for the upstream sensor, just get the upstream sensor. It sounds like he tried to splice in a crowsfoot, which is pretty common on hondas because the o2 sensors are usually crammed in there. I have to do the o2 sensor on my gd3 Fit Sport in the next few weeks here and I’m not looking forward to it because you basically have to stretch the wire all the way to the limit to plug it in. A lot of people mangle the housing when they install it and end up immediately needing a new one so just buy the sensor from amazon of rockauto and be careful with the install or just pay a mechanic $75 to install it for you. It’s like a 15 minute job if you know what you’re doing.

>>28594384
Same. I went through the full range of card in between. Drove a cheap 5 speed jap econobox in highschool, went through a dozen cars through university and law school, and right as I’m starting my career in law when I could reasonably justify a way nicer car I said fuck it and bought another cheap 5 speed jap econobox. Nothing beats them.

> tick is so bad in my CB7 that even my elderly neighbor mentioned it to me when I stopped to say hello at the mailbox

It sounds like there is a little man in my engine compartment jackhammering the side of a metal shed. Its almost comical at this point. I should sign up for AAA

Why do the facelift 9th gen civic hatch and sedan have different dashes? The sedan looks so much better.

Any tips on getting a d17a2 to be faster without blowing it up or doing a crazy engine swap? I have a 7th gen automatic sedan. Just want to be quicker in a straight line. Can I frankenstein parts from other d series? And out a reliable s/c or turbo set up? Again the reliability and maintenance ease is still a key component. I'm not looking for crazy hours.
Could I benefit by going with bigger wheels and tires in the front

>>28595677
I would just do a new engine air filter and a tune up with spark plugs to make it be all it can be, D17 engines are never fast without sacrificing reliability, if you have twisty roads in the idea,upgrading to 17 inch rims with summer tires on it, and maybe some nice brake pads would make you a heck of a lot faster in mountain road situations where a D17 Civic would normally understeer and be limited by grip of the tires.

>>28595677
go wider instead of just bigger, and naybe get light forged wheels idk

>>28595716
I don't care about twisty roads. I don't have those. I just want speed in a straight line
How much would an entire engine swap even be? I'd need a new transmission too.
Would i just swap to another d series?

I'd really rather build a d17

>>28595721
>Engine swapping a 7th gen
You're better off just buying a faster car.

>>28595723
Well I'm not the one who brought it up
I just want to learn how to do this stuff myself. I'm not really being one of those kids about it. It's just something I've always wanted to dive into.

>>28595677
It’s over. Hondas are no fun without manual transmissions

>>28596008
They are if they're CMs lel

>>28596015
Good hondas are only fun with a manual
Accords are traffic

>>28596032
Ree

>>28596015
Honda’s without manual transmissions are just not interesting to me at all.

>>28560771
Just acquired this bad boy my 2nd 2008 si last one was a red sedan

>>28596962
I owned this to but I got hit by an 18 wheeler

>>28596940
Manual transmission is just too expensive

>>28597091
Manual transmission cars are also clapped to shit for the money because they're beloved by nitwits.

>>28597091
>>28597112
cope.

91 Acura legend
5 speed
185k on the body
25k on the engine
65hunnid
Thots?

>>28597491
ehhn. Depends on who did the engine swap. 185k seems to early for an engine swap on one of those. They usually go to 250k easily. What happened? Something tells me that's way too pricey.

>>28597493
The previous owner, according to the seller. Not sure if it was rebuilt or fully swapped. If it hasn't blown up yet, the bearings are probably somewhat in spec though. Kinda tempted. I need a winter beater, but a fit might be a better option.
I see an 09 fit for 1500, 110k miles was turbod, has some sort of fuel issue. Guy says it starts with starter fluid. Trying to find out how much boost he put through that probably unbuilt engine and if it keeps running after getting starter fluid or if it dies shortly after

>>28597516
That could be a cool very cheap or free tow away project car, but $6500 is an astronomical amount of money for a car that doesn't even idle, now it could be a dead fuel pump but we don't know, that's the $6500 question, the head gasket(s could be blown for all you know, the thing doesn't even run enough for you to inspect how it runs and drives, you could by an absolutely lovely low mileage turnkey Honda Accord 2.4L for $6500, and I know Accords and Civics are cringe and not manual Legends, but you do not want to spend a boatload of money on a car that doesn't run and you don't know what else it needs, it's a 34 year old car.

Redpill me on my new car /hg/

2026 Civic Si. Everything I’ve seen about the car online has been positive. It drives great, seems like it’ll get awesome fuel mileage, I love the seats and the overall interior. The rev hang is kinda annoying and the clutch is damn near completely numb, and I don’t like that it bites at the top of the pedal travel, but maybe I just need to get used to it.

>>28597542
That car's hot, If i had to buy an economical fun nu-car, even with all the bullshit the Civic is the only thing worth buying

>>28597529
So the 91 legend for 6500 supposedly runs great and is being dailied
The 09 fit for 1500 is the one that has a very questionable motor, probably doesn't idle and has a fuel problem

>>28597529
>you could by an absolutely lovely low mileage turnkey Honda Accord 2.4L for $6500

NTA, but for comparison, I got my 2004 2.4L Accord Euro for 5k NZD with 70k km (3k USD, 43k miles).

>>28597590
Oh I see, well if the Legend is running and driving with it's collectable ass manual transmission, it is worth every bit of $6500.

>>28597592
Fuck that's a good deal, out american Accord 2.4L isn't as high performance an an Accord euro and I've still seen 164,000 miles for $4600 american, and you suck it up and pay it because they're such good cars.

>>28597542
>and I don’t like that it bites at the top of the pedal travel
That seems like kind of a honda thing. You can bring it down a bit by adjusting the clutch master cylinder rod that attaches to the back of the pedal on older ones, you could probably do it there as well.
It will be extremely annoying if you are large or not flexible

>>28564673
The front is so ugly.

>>28564673
I'm glad they made it, but this is the CRZ all over again without an option for manual. Not gonna sell sadly

>>28599131
At least the new Prelude will be decently quick, unlike the CR-Z

>>28597516
dude stop looking for clapped out cars. You can get a decent stock fit for under 2 grand pretty much everywhere. Why the hell are you looking at cars the way a highschooler would?
"oooh! engine swap! ooga booga turbo turbo!" Dude just buy a clean granny driven car and keep it stock.

>>28599783
This, niggas with limited budget will look at a sea of stock reliable Hondas, and then run towards a literal project car that doesn't run, or cars from over 30 years ago that you can't find parts for because Legends weren't common and there's fewer of them than ever.

>>28599783
>You can get a decent stock fit for under 2 grand pretty much everywhere
But then you would have to drive a fit
All this gay ass sensibleposting on an shitbox enthusiast board really chaps my ass

>>28599827
Shut your whore mouth a manual fit sport is a great car.

>>28599827
>look i took a reliable, well designed car and made it shittier and less reliable
>i myself am smarter than japanese engineers with degrees and massive r&d budgets, also.

>>28599827
Can't get a decent 150k miles, manual fit around here for less than 5k

>>28599980
Well then pay the 5K get yourself a nice one, thre's a saying when buying cars, "you can never pay too much for a nice one, and you can never get a shitty one cheap enough"

Don't buy garbage, Anon, it will probably hurt you more fixing up a clapper than just getting a decent one, and if the manual tax is a problem, then don't buy a manual one, but don't buy a piece of shit.

Sharing my weekend purchase, because you don’t see these on /hg/ every day. Couldn’t bring myself to buy a crossover. Not to mention the J35 is way more enjoyable than the 2.5l hybrid I-4 in the Sienna.

>>28600346
That's a based family truckster, Anon. Minivan has always been way better at being very large and fuel efficient than any crossover could be.

Hey have any of you had decent luck with chinesium o2 sensors? Gotta do my upstream but the oem one is like $500

How expensive would it be to lower a crossover down to a normal car height and give it smaller wheels

>>28600619
I could just get an Accord, especially nowadays the Accord and CR-V are the same platformed vehicle.

>>28600295
Not him but what the hell is this post. Are you shilling your Craigslist ad or some shit? Fuck no he shouldn't buy a high mileage fit for $5k. And there are plenty of non clippers for $2k

>>28600626
A Honda Fit with somewhat high miles with great maintenance records and great overall condition is the best way to spend $5000, I'd never sell my car so I have nothing to gain, but I don't wanna see anyone losing their ass over a shitbox because it was cheap, the premium you pay for a well kept car is nothing compared to what it would take to make a cheap neglected car like the nice one when you catch up on maintenance and fix anything that's broken or fucked up.

Buy something nice and drive it, then when you sell it, if you weren't a savage owner, now you're selling a nice car that will be worth more than the shit ones, which means you don't lose a lot of money.

>>28600635
You're making a ton of unfair blind assumptions. I think you're too biased to even hold this conversation.
>>28599980
Honda just isn't the answer for a practical cheap car anymore. That guys delusional. Do your research and find a reliable cheap car that just isn't sexy. Those are the real diamonds.

>>28600640
He’s not being biased he’s just saying that buying a well-treated economy car is a fantastic move in this economy because they don’t really trade down. If you’re buying a clapped out highschooler’s project car your pool of potential buyers if you need to offload is small, limited only to other retards who buy clapped out shitmobiles. Every one of those sits on marketplace or craigslist for months until some retard takes the bait,
Meanwhile a nicely cared for mostly stock honda will ALWAYS get you normiebuxx when you go to sell.

>>28600640
I live in the real world Anon, non car people are aware that non sexy bland Hondas are the most reliable fucking things of all time if you just take care of it, that's why Civics, Accords, Fits get treated better on the secondhand market than anyone else, a 150,000 mile Honda Fit has a lot of life left in it, it's a $5,000 car unless it's destroyed in some way.

>>28600640
Not him but i just got a 5 speed fit sport for under $2k and it needs nothing, 115,000 miles.

>>28560386 (OP)
AI has gone way too far this time. I totally forgot I set Grok to always be on flirty mode, and then I asked it a serious question lmao

Couldn't find the bolt sizes anywhere, but I guess now I have my answer.

>>28600763
>Luscious V6 beast (2003-2007 Accord era)
Pretty accurate description of a CM Accord

>>28600772
I'm glad we agree. I'm doing some work to one I've had for about a year now. New rod bearings, a good tune up, checking compression, etc.
Getting it ready for a Hondata, and a 60mm turbo.

Pretty sure my 07 Accord has a parasitic draw. I’m buying a multimeter tomorrow and will look for it but don’t have anyone to help so it’s going to take forever if I test everything sequentially. Are there any fuses I should check first? No aftermarket anything. The radio is broken and I noticed the display completely went out a couple days before the battery started draining. I’m hoping it’s somehow connected

>>28602604
If the radio is broken, there is a very good chance it is broken and getting 12v to itself and draining the battery, my 2004 broke and the radio screen would come on and off without any key in it, never stranded me because I drove it often but it's clearly parasitic and probably would drain the battery if the car sat, I've also seen on higher trims, if someone uses a key to unlock the driver's side and then leaves the lock cylinder slightly turned when the yank the key out, the car can think you're trying to unlock forever and have a parasitic draw, but I am heavily leaning towards broken radio being the problem because 2003-2007 Accords do this stupid ass shit all the time.

>>28602613
Sweet, I’ll start with that, thanks

>>28602641
Good shit Anon, if it is the radio being stupid, pic related is the solution, it's kinda expensive but I have it and it's great because it fixes the draw for good and you can put in a lovely aftermarket radio, really modernizes an old 2007 car when you're playing bluetooth music from the phone in your awesome Accord

>>28602663
This is what it looks like, Metra makes a little kit that goes in the lower pocket for $20 that I used to have, but unfortunately it doesn't fix the draw because the broken climate control radio unit is still there and connected.

>>28602666
I put something similar in the gfs 06 Accord. Not spectacular as the blower fan now makes this, like, buffeting sound at high fan speed but it does the job

>>28602688
That actually looks really nice, anything that ditches the factory and has a DIN radio in it while controlling the A/C will do, I've never heard of fan buffeting, might be a fan motor being old.

Wish I had an Accord driving gf

>>28602693
Yeah I’m not really sure what’s causing it, it’s not the fan blower motor itself I don’t think, more of an airflow issue maybe. I just looked back to when I bought it and I bought the PAC kit, which is more expensive than the Metra kit (it was $340) but it included the replacement cubby with the USB port for going into the back of the head unit and I liked that it matched the OEM style of digits and display if that makes sense. My only other gripe with it is you have to set the temperature two or three degrees higher than what you want but that’s borderline autistic nitpicking.

She had a Ford Edge and was really wanting another SUV to replace it but her budget was only 5k and wew the options around here for CRVs and RAV4s was shit so I told her let’s look at Accords and she liked this one. I had to put brakes on it and I found some 04 wheels for it for $150 with new tires and it’s been a great car for her ever since.

>>28602700
I do dig that little usb port in the cubby, I have all my phone charger cables coming out of the 12v outlet splitter which looks kinda stupid but it works, but yeah 7th gen Accord with some nice double DIN in there is probably the best daily ever.

Why does my 2004 accord have a DVD player. Surely it doesn't play on the screen I use for controlling aircon? Jap import so I can't read anything.

>>28602816
That's probably a DVD ROM for navigation

>>28602816
I have one on my 2017 Jazz.

>>28602816
>>28602822
This. My 99 TL has the same thing but it's a CD player in the trunk.

Best option for lowering a 2004 Accord for not too much money? Don't want to go lower than an inch, also don't want to be replacing the entire assembly.

>>28603614
TEIN springs installed on your struts will drop you 1.5 inches

Eibach Sportline TEINs ride like ass.

>>28603776
Well reviewed so will go with those, thanks bud.

I love this car so much. Even with the fucked up torque sensor it’s one of the most entertaining cars I’ve ever driven.

>>28604515
Based 1st gen Fit, even on the steelies they actually are fun to throw it around

>>28604522
Yeah I gotta pick up some alloys for my summer tires. Mine has the weird issue where as soon as your hand is off the steering wheel it’ll steer itself all the way ay to the left (not an allignment thing, it even happens if I have it on jack stands and start the car lol) so i probably need a new steering rack but parts are so cheap I’m not worried.

How does the 6th gen subaru legacy compare to the civic/accord of similar age?
The 2.5L engine seems quite attractive compared to the smaller civic engines and it's cheaper than the accord by a fair bit.

>>28604910
V8 fuel economy for 4cyl power. Not particularly exceptional otherwise.

>>28604910
I's say it's very competitive, especially since it dropped that stupid old EJ25 engine with the timing belt that has to be done, very competitive with Honda 2.4 for the money

>>28604914
Mainly this, unless the Subaru is stupid cheap compared to a 9th gen Accord, get a 9th gen Accord.

bros i'm getting a $250 quote to drain and fill CVT fluid in my 2014 civic, there is nothing wrong with it but i'm doing this as preventative maintenance (i don't think it's ever been changed out), is this a good price? i would do it myself but i don't have the tools and i live in an apartment

>>28605354
Is this at the dealer or an independent shop? Cause a transmission drain and fill at the Honda dealer is like $189, and then you could do it yearly as a preventative thing and your transmission fluid will be super clean.

>>28605354
>cvt
Oh no no no bro buy a manual next time. It costs me $27 in fluids to change my tranny fluid

>>28605381
We're wrenchlets Anon, draining and filling 3 quarts of DW-1 in an old 5 speed CM is $40, but it ends up being $175 at the stealer because we'd drop the car and die over a shitbox

>>28605370
$250 was an independent shop, i just called the dealer and they quoted $190, will go with the dealer then

>>28605491
That's based anon, dealer is so goddamn competive with local shops when it comes to basic services like fluids and filters, that it makes sense to take it to them.

>>28605494
i wonder if the boomer at the independent shop will entertain price matching the dealer lel

>>28605570
Why do that? Dealers usually have better warranty if shit goes south and they fuck it.

>>28605715
you're right, it's just dealer service shops around my area have worse rating than independent ones for some reason

>>28606035
When you understand that normies are allergic to car maintenance and spending any money on their car you'll understand why they're pissed, you take your neglected ass car for a reluctant overdue oil change, and next thing you know the service tire is upselling your on brake pads and worn out tires that you clearly don't have because it's only been a shit load of mileage.