Thread 28560668

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Shitboxes

>>28560672
I love shitboxes
https://youtu.be/N-dBD8A3Nmo

>CVT only league
Who would create such a thing when the N-ONE has a 6 speed available?
https://youtu.be/GJBcUm2xc8Q

>>28560692
Banned F1 technology enthusiasts

>>28560719
Reminder that GT4 fags need to pipe the fuck down. GT1 and GT3 adults are talking.

>>28560753
GT sport was truly kino.
Shame I only got into PS4 sim racing at the end of the last servers for GT Sport

>>28560719
Really makes me want to replay NFS Porsche, but I don't want to fuck around with making it work on a modern computer

>>28560753
GT3... my beloved...

>>28560753
Of course he loves autism uneven central Gran Turismo 5

>>28560668 (OP)
I just set up my triple monitor stand today and it looks really crooked. It's triggering me really hard rn

Would you an NFS edition of this McLaren F1, which offers improved acceleration and a slightly higher top speed?

>>28560894
How are they mounted anon?.. couldn’t be that hard to make some slight adjustments.
Can you take a picture from behind?

>>28560946
>Would you an NFS edition of this McLaren F1
hey bby i got an LTE 5250 and sum 5w40 you wanna listen to rom di prisco n' chill?

>>28560753
for me its gt2

>>28561105
the vesa mounts are fixed, but the arms can swivel a bit. I am going to order the adjustable vesa mount that trak racer sells and see if it helps a little bit

>>28561560
if you dont care about potentially damaging the current vesa mount, you can try drilling with a 3-4mm bigger bore, so you have some space to move the screens before fixating the bolts. Will require 8 washers of appropriate size though.
might be worth trying before ordering a new mount

new assevo car just dropped

Can you legitimately race in BeamNG or is the physics too erratic to be consistent?

>>28562662
the biggest issue is there is no easy way to have a race
like it's not assetto corsa it's like garrys mod, and the multiplayer is a 3rd party mod so it's not like it's optimized or anything
the physics and beammp netcode are ok enough for normal racing like up to gt3s and i've seen people do f3 racing in it, but f1 and lmps probably not currently possible. mp has lots of desyncs the faster you go.

>>28562693
ive never been able to actually race on beammp. its mostly children spamming rocket buses etc or doing police chases. if you dont have a tight knit friend group who all likes racing games there is basically no way to play online on pc without shelling out a shitton for iracing

>>28562892
all the actual leagues are in autistic discords
of course if you just go into a freeroam that's all you get

Went for a real drive today. Car feels ultra slow since ive been driving fast sim cars. Does this happen to anyone else?

>>28563178
Go drive a 1985 tin can at 70 mph and report back

just set up my new gsi wheel on my r12 v2 base, feels way better than the moza ks wheel. that piece of shit rattled so much whenever ABS kicked in when I played LMU, it felt like a toy. none of that nonsense with this, its super sturdy. and the paddle shifters are way better. the price fucking sucks though but you get what you pay for i guess

>>28563178
I used to own a 84 celica gt,87 celica st and a 88 celica altrac.what do you want me to report on? that cars are just as slow today as they were back then since they weigh twice as much now?

>>28563285
>used to
drive it
TODAY
Anything after TC was issued as standard has neutered every feeling out of driving

>do a 1:51.5 in Monza
>+2s, 9th
>start race
>half the field gone by T1
Every time

>>28563325
you can get a high DR/IR just by finishing races without wrecking. It takes awhile before having alien pace matters

How could they fuck this up?
>inb4 "Spirit of Horizon"

>>28563351
>KOE-KNEE-CHEE-WAA MY TOE-MOE-DACHEE WELCOME TO KNEE-HON AHAAA
>SKRRRT SKRRRT
+ some cringe brits, cars way too powerful way too soon and a fundamental misunderstanding of the japanese car scene which will be reduced to drifitng and highway races

love this track, very fond memories

>>28563351
whatever they do I hope they add interior customization, I want to atleast be able to replace the steering wheel

>>28563351
YO YO YO WUHWASHEE NO TOWMOWDACHEE YOU SOOKEE SUM COOROOMAS AYO WE FINNA BE BOPPIN YO DOIN DORIFTOS ON THE TOWGAY IN THE HATCHYROWKOO

>>28560672
>>28560675
What is the greatest shitbox sim apart from GT4?

I still don't get how you can fuck up car progression after nailing it with forza horizon 1

>>28563357
>>28563364

>>28563351
that map would be cool but way beyond what playground is capable of

>>28563371
aw shiiet dood you got challenged to a wangan duel

>>28563367
By listening to the retards who need instant gratification?
I don't get it either, takes the whole feeling of progress right out of the game, along with being able to chose whatever car you want for races against AI

>>28563372
you know full well they would pronounce it wang gang

oresama no kao de Japanese Drift Masters boot wo suru

>>28563351
It needs Kei car endurance racing

>>28563379
>all VAs are californian-accented or australian (or worse, both)
>actual japanese-onry-pureezu guest voice comes on
>hear cherry blossoms falling for exactly 0.8 sec before the volume is lowered and a jarring nasally tranny attempts to "interpret" the words of a superior lifeform

>>28563364
Horizon isn't urban it's painfully British
you're thinking of NFS

>>28563365
My summer car and Beam

>>28563351
You know how Motorfest has that cringefest of a "Japan-themed" playlist?
Imagine that but the whole game long.

>>28563361
for me it's the Grandview Station, a bit more dynamic than just freeway
https://youtu.be/BIxE_x0qB04

>>28563394
you forgot the phonk "music"

Japan is gay, I hope there'll never be a Horizon set in Japan (there will be).
Fuck weebniggers.
Fuck nipshit pig iron "sports" cars.
Fuck the niggers obsessed with anything japanese.

>>28563466
I dunno man, I like their overall car scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DhJ27UsjY0

>>28563365
Drift 2 is brimming with Jap shitboxes
https://tokyoxtremeracer.fandom.com/wiki/Cars_(TXRD2)

>>28563466
your gay

>>28563506
i really like genki, i really like the racing, i really like the selection of cars and courses, but holy shit the drift modes in this game drive me buttfuck insane. i cannot figure out the drift physics nor stand the drift mode mechanics.
i may genuinely be too retarded to play TXRD2

>>28563555
nah, I know what you mean, I barely manage to scrape by in drifts by abusing my honda city turbos 2 handbrake, it works (barely) but I swear every RWD in this game feels like ice skating

I'm just gonna stick to races with 4WD and FWD

>>28563555
>>28563581
>mfw that one fucking mode where you have to hit a certain amount of points in a corner and never ever touch the wall

I genuinely just savestate scum these because holy fuck

>>28563555
>>28563581
Be glad Genki didn't bring back the old CAT events to progress in the story, those required MINIMUM scores per section and were times. TXRD1 had them but drifting in that game was far easier.

>>28563595
>CAT events
pain

>>28563503
I'm suprised some of those have actual plates.

>>28563506
I hope TXR does well enough that Genki makes a Kaido remake

>>28563350
By gone I mean wrecked
There's always a genious trying to hotlap the entire race with the usual consequences

>>28563361
>>28563438
Bellavista for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FP5kda5BWw

>>28560668 (OP)
How to get the definitive 'underpaid, overworked and no fucks about local law Romanian trucker driver' experience in ETS2?

>>28563610
There's a reason they were restricted to Sponsor Tests in D2.

>>28563555
I found Kaido Racer (Kaido Battle 2) to have more fun physics than TXRD2

>>28564036
JP and EU only.
Why is there always an inexplicably hard difficulty curve that is impossible to get around without cheating in almost every TXR game?
>midway point
>every rival has 700+ HP and/or an NSX, FD RX-7, Skyline GT-R, or Supra
>you have an FC RX-7 and the highest upgrade only gets you to 540 HP
>bosses have impossibly fast cars you can only defeat in curves

>>28564101
to get you to learn tuning

new james
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX6YQZeG9NQ

>GT3s at Spa Daily
Well
There goes my SR

>>28564799
Just start in the pit, dood
All she shitters will wreck themselves at La Source and Radillon and you can get a good position after

>>28564802
No, the issue is me cooking the wheels in the double left and visiting the lamest attraction in Stavelot, the wall

>>28564810
Issue of skill

>>28564827
As long as I don't encounter another cunt like the guy who tapped me 50 times in Monzas straight, I'll keep climbing out of bronshitter rank

>>28564310
Not that anon but to be fair I've never spent so long tuning gearing in any game. And I'm currently running a 680hp R34 so not exactly an underdog anymore. When all I had was an FC i basically had to just catch everyone on a certain section of the C1 where I was much faster than them.

>>28564310
That doesn't explain the MASSIVE gaps in power between you and bosses. I did the "follow rivals to a junction/curve" trick but even that wasn't a guaranteed success because the moment the road opened up, I'd get overtaken.
Also, I was always a tunelet. When GTVault was open I saved grip setups but only for the cars I'd use (Bugeye Impreza/R34/FD), which was my greatest mistake with that site.
>>28564894
I use an old GameFAQs guide (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/919121-tokyo-xtreme-racer-3/faqs/28975) and tune the ratios accordingly. I only open the final drive in the second half of the game. For engine swaps into classic cars, I use the final drives listed for the car, not the engine swap. I also intentionally did the faster sections first so the bosses like Jintei or God's Estuary get stuck in the curves.

>>28563351
the same problems I see in that map
>roads too wide/fast
>no actual touge
>highways don't look like Japanese highways
>too much emphasis on the city to appeal to NFS fanboys

>>28563351
mmm, i cant wait for a bunch of americans speaking broken japanese in a fake british accent, with the exact same gameplay loop as the last 3 games

>>28564101
>>28565138
because the Genki AI is windowlickingly retarded, so the only way they could make them competitive is to give them massively overpowered cars and give them sextuple the player's SP to make up for their inability to take corners at speed.

>>28565156
>bunch of americans speaking broken japanese in a fake british accent
VGH... SOVL
The next best thing is just having actual British VAs butchering Japanese.

>>28560668 (OP)
>try to play dirt rally 1.0 or Dirt 4
>games don't launch
is this because of some CPU fuckery? Like 8 cores 16 threads means the game simply wont launch?
Can anybody get those games to run with higher core count cpus? or is it something else?
It's ridiculous that I want to replay some old games and shit is just broken.

>>28565278
Rally 1.0 works well on my 10/16 so it shouldn't be that

>>28565159
i think japanese gamers and devs just use their imagination more
take edf for example, the graphics are terrible, the animations are stupid, the enemies are silly, the voice acting is retarded, the game is literally full of bugs and physics glitches, but if you really get "into it" and play it like you're in an anime instead of a game it's absolute cinema beyond words
txr is meant for you to pretend like you're a racing anime protagonist, it's not supposed to be f-zero gx.

I cut your breaks when you weren't looking

>>28565610
Posters who cannot differentiate "brake" from "break" deserves to have their hands cut off.

>>28565613
unfortunate but true

>>28565613
I just clean the floors here

>AC
A glorified mod sandbox with terrible "career mode" and iffy multiplayer.
>BeamNG
Same as above but with emphasis on spft body physics and even iffyer multiplayer.
>GT7
gaystation only, worst career in the series so far, limited wheel and gear support, no ultrawide or triple screen support etc.
>iRacing
more like iRenting ba dum tss
>DR2.0/WRC
Codemasters is dead and EA's WRC is a watered down Dirt Rally.

Truly the golden age of sim racing.

On a local used sim gear group some guy is parting off his rig and I want to buy the TM handbrake off him, as I already have the rest of TM stuff.
He's also selling the TM hub, so my question is, is it worth it for less cable clutter? I play mainly on PC so I can connect both shifters separately through USB anyway, but I might get a used PS in the future to play some Gran Turismo and Driveclub.

>>28565547
that reads like a lot of excuses for bad programming. There's nothing wrong with players losing races sometimes so long as they're not actively punished for it (TXR forcing you to gamble for cars/parts, Gran Turismo locking career progress behind gold trophies). indeed, part of the player immersion is the thrill of pulling off a hard-fought win. if you're dogwalking the competition every time you just ticking checkboxes to get to the end of the game ASAP. That's not fun. Imagine if you could blitz to the end of Mario without dying on your first attempt.

>>28565693
>RBR
Fun :)

>>28565610
Posters who cannot differentiate "brake" from "break" deserves to have their breaks cut off.

How do I have fun with BeamNG?

>>28563351
holy fuck

>>28565693
Ass Course with mods to fuck around online and LMU for tryharding, irenting for tryharding even harder

>>28560719
>When asked how difficult it was to create Gran Turismo, Yamauchi remarked: "It took five years. In those five years, we could not see the end. I would wake up at work, go to sleep at work. It was getting cold, so I knew it must be winter. I estimate I was home only four days a year."[9]
imagine if he put this much effort into the recent gran turismo games

>>28563351
God I hope the next Horizon game is again set in some 3rd world shithole just to see weeaboos seethe

>>28565810
ok well if you're going to "lose sometimes" then you're going to get rubber banded
if you want a racing game to be fair and accurate to real life then a human will always win, you can't program bravery or technique, just imitate it. whenever the ai tries to employ the same tactics as players like ramming, cutting the track, shooting tiny gaps and being aggressive, people like you can't handle it and demand it be turned down.
then it gets turned down to be less aggressive and now it's too easy.
the issue i think is that people like you think you're good at racing games but if you experienced real "fair" racing game difficulty you'd hate it. if an ai in gt or forza raced you like people race it you'd put your console thru a wall.

idk if it works anymore since the update but the ai performance boost and difficulty mod to make it feel more like wmmt is kino and the ai actually is more fun with the silly rubberbanding, makes it seem like they're running nos.

>>28565819
>RBR
Belongs in a museum. Brakes don't work, neither does the leaderboards. Literally a PS2 game held together with gum and duck tape, a Frankenstein abomination begging to die already. Let it go.

>>28566063
you've never played a good racing game, then. Geoff Crammond had good competitive AI sorted way back in 1996.

>>28566058
why are mutts like this
they just hate everything good in the world

>>28566074
i literally played that game growing up

you're retarded because again you think you're good at racing games but really you're not
gp2's ai is assisted by the fact that
>all the cars are roughly the same performance level
>actual gp2 player skill level is several leagues below a real f1 driver
>the tracks are real circuits designed for racing
>there is no traffic

whiplash has fair non-rubberband ai
>tracks designed for and against each car's strength and weakness
>ai is just as aggressive as an actual player would be if not moreso
>the traffic car is bob

meanwhile txr has ai that needs to rubberband
>the races are only a few minutes long
>it is not supposed to ram or wallride, only block
>there are few sharp corners to gain time because the track is a model of a real life highway, not designed to be raced on
>there is traffic that needs to be maneuvered around

it's a whole different ballgame from circuit racing
making a racing game ai is clearly pretty tough or else it would be a solved problem, txr does a fine job when its tuned appropriately

>>28566086
1996 was 30 years ago (and over a decade before TXRD). computers are an order of magnitude more powerful now than they were then. Genki had more manpower available than Geoff did. copes and excuses.

>>28566081
mutts are the ones on the left in this scenario, genius

>>28566080
I'd rather it be set in former Jugoslavia than cartoon pedophile land.
Actually Croatia would be much cooler than japan as a location

>>28566091
dude you talk like a fucking journalist and clearly know less than one about how to make video games

if racing game ai was easy it would have been done,
clearly it's a lot harder than
>"hurr just throw more cycles and ram at it a hurrp durpp durr" t. executive project lead
you can't just throw more resources at it because you also have to simulate the car, and usually more than one ai, and render.
like the problem primarily is that games are not real life, the ai's calculations have to occur within a limited time per frame and in order with other operations, meaning the faster you go the less time there actually is to perform calculations and exponentially more mistakes they make. even if the ai logic is decoupled from frame time or you have a very fast computer and super high fps they're still "seeing" in frames, they're not people and they can never race like people because they don't see or drive like a human does at all. it's just foolish to expect it. even Sophy doesn't drive like a human. people drive unpredictably and improve their lines over time, and the only game i've very seen do that is RF1.

txr's gameplay style is intentionally old-school, it doesn't need Sophy or whatever, it would just be a waste of time because bad players like you would just cry about how hard it is and good players would dump her stupid ass into a wall and win anyway

>>28566035
I don't think it's a matter of effort so much as focus, at least post-GT Sport.
Polyphony is a lot bigger nowadays than they were in the 90's so a lot of the work that Kaz had to break his back working on back then is probably delegated to entire dev/design teams now, that's just how successful studios end up working over time.
Those teams probably aren't that lazy either since I think GT7's faithfulness in rendering all the intricacies of the cars, tracks, etc. indicate that there's clearly a lot of motivation at least in those departments to actually try and make something special.
I think the real crux of the issue is, as the image >>28560753 posted sorta implies, that Kaz is now in love with and perpetually wanks off the e-sports ecosystem he ended up building with Sport, and that has informed a lot of the dogshit design decisions (non-existent singleplayer, og track remakes, aversion to licensing up-to-date real life race cars, so on and so forth) of GT7.

>>28563312
Those cars are long gone now.I hope the altrac wasnt crushed. There were only like 1500 ever in america.Now I have a fiat 1.4t multiair. its aight

>>28565920
This is all I do on beam https://techeyy.gumroad.com/l/touge

>>28566162
also get Techeyys Pessima Repository Download.youll see the link at the bottom. it gives you a well balanced 11,000 rpm rwd pessima

>>28566162
>all downloadable for free
why are beamng modders so based yet ac modders are so cringe

>>28566175
There's a ton of paid ones for beam too, which is arguably worse since they can break with every patch [spoiler]Which is why you should pirate them all[/spoiler]

I forgot

>>28565751
Pls respond

>>28566182
>Which is why you should pirate them all[
desu that's what I do with ac anyways
only sucky part is that it can take a while for updates

>>28566104
>inb4 Balkan meme spam

>>28566353
I'd much rather that than japan honestly.

>>28560668 (OP)
thimking of going on automation just to make a car with the worst turning circle possible.
Probably give it suspension so soft it will be easier to rock it through corners.

>>28566175
Bless them.We need fujimi kaido in beam.There is a mod for ac. im too retarded to port it over

HEAR YE HEAR YE

As I now know how my September is and there should be enough time to sort out our server business, the date for the Mille Miglia Challenge is now set for Satrurday, September 20th! If this date is really poor for everyone or the server is still bullshitting, this may be moved to the 27th. Not high likelihood of that though.

Go sign up on the doc, open the link to the wiki and read the rules. If you're interested in what sort of speed of car you needs to do, here are the benchmark times based on Trento Bondone and 37 different tested cars from the period:

Average Pace: 14 min 15 sec - Mille Miglia completion time ~1h 55 min

Really Slow Pace: 20 min 0 sec - Mille Miglia completion time ~2h 40 min

Slow Pace: 15 min 30 sec - Mille Miglia completion time ~2h 10 min

Fast Pace: 13 min 0 sec - Mille Miglia completion time ~1h 40 min

Really Fast Pace: 11 min 30 sec - Mille Miglia completion time ~1h 30 min

>>28566113
>if it was possible it would've been done
lol imagine being this much of a simp

>>28566660
perfect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk

>>28566660
shiggy

>>28566744
ok fag where is your $40 single-a racing game with godtier non-cheating bunta fujiwara ai
that's what i fucking thought nigger

>>28566790
let gold ship cook

>>28566558
It looks butt ugly in AC, though.

>nothing about the /ovg/ mille rules says your car has to actually be a car or have wheels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOpGz87t7fs

>>28566812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hiM_qTmGkw
12 hour mille miglia

>>28566821
i'm franky disappointed there isn't like some kind of oregon trail oxcart, there was a silly horse mod at one point and there's a healthy amount of pre-1900s cars for all the two people who enjoy them but of all the tings ac needs an amish horse and buggy would go fucking hard

Got a horizon and a hud. And some fucked up clouds.

>>28566812
Does say it has to be a real car that existed in 1970 or before and had headlights actually

>>28566825
There's a rickshaw mod but I think it's F4 pace otherwise would be really funny

>>28566833
>Does say it has to be a real car that existed in 1970 or before
i mean 65 million years ago is indeed before 1970 and a t-rex was basically the ram pickup of its day but it does not and never did have headlights, that's true.
Amish buggies do have headlights iirc
car is short for "carriage"


>>28566833
rickshaw would be extra goated if you could boost it to like reliant robin speed and run with a navigator in the seat
if only there were some way to combine the two, like a rickshaw pulled by a tiny t-rex holding a flashlight in its mouth as the headlight

>>28566828
i see some wonky track chunks off to the left there

>>28566792
Sick line cut

>>28566852
I believe it is because the view calculation requires some variables in the car struct that are zeroed because I haven't implemented the initialization functions yet.

>>28566802
Im pretty sure they did some graphics updates on it. either way you should be looking down the road not at the trees and shrubs.

Why is the steering in MW2012 so fucking awful? I've tried all the fixes I can find online but none seemed to help, the mod that gets rid of the crash bullshit and makes it more like MW05 is great though.

>>28563421
I would include Jalopy on it too, but it's not a sim, so I don't know if it counts or not.

>>28566792
Genki isn't gonna call you back

>>28566091
>and over a decade before TXRD
the original txrd came out in 2003, crave just didnt bother with it until tokyo drift was coming out

>>28567383
Another company wanted to publish KB1 first in 2004, but they quietly canceled it.

>>28566086
>actual gp2 player skill level is several leagues below a real f1 driver
gp2 on ace is harder than any single player racing game I've ever played without it feeling like the cpu is blatantly cheating

>>28566091
geoff alone counts more than 100 nip ai programmers that's an unfair comparison

this is a great game

>>28567739
its mid

>>28567740

bruh, watchu mean freaking mid

>>28567743
its boring, rc de go and re-volt mogs frfr

>>28567748

I just watched the re-volt steam page video, you've gotta be fucking kidding, mog my ass, n

>>28567765
>he had to look up the steam page for re:volt
lmao tourist

>>28567765
ill stop gatekeeping g mad tracks is the real goat but don't go tellin them yns

>>28567740
it was on dreamcast so it instantly goes from "mid" to "hidden underrated gem" and "ahead of its time"

>>28567888
>"ahead of its time"
it's not wrong

>>28567898
this is mid too, mogged by sports car gt

the only good racing game on the dreamcast is f355 challenge

...and shutokou battle 2

>>28567839
looks good might buy on sale

>>28567888
revolt was also on dreamcast


>>28567728
gp2 ai even on ace makes regular repeated mistakes that you can take advantage of, they're not unbeatable. they're tough to pass but once you're ahead they're basically defenseless

>>28566828
closer

>>28565751
>>28566184
Nvm, looked it up
The hub doesn't work on PC, but you need it on console if you want both shifter and handbrake, so if I ever want to play Gran Autismo, I need it anyway
Idk, why Thrustmaster is so retarded, with Fagnatec, you connect the pedals, shifter and handbrake to the wheel base, then you connect that to PC or console and it just werks on both

>>28568020
of course they are not unbeatable but they are also cheeseproof there are points on each track where the ai kamikaze divebombs you even if there's no space if you try to keep blocking its not like eunuch isi ai where you can keep them behind forever

>>28568020
>revolt was also on dreamcast
Arguably the best version of the game on release.
Obviously today RVGL blows it out of the water, though.

I just can’t stop driving Ultimate Driving Machines.
The new ones are great too but the older ones especially are so much better than their competition at the time

>>28568060
there is only one accessory port on the back of a tm wheel, for a shifter, which needs to be split into two to add a handbrake.
the reason it's retarded is because you are a retard for trying to play racing games on a console and this is your punishment

>>28568298
>t. turdmaster representative

I don't even have a console, retard

>>28568020
Just race your ghost car. ai sucks at racing

>>28568425
Defeating yourself, the man you were yesterday, is the greatest reward

>>28568179
The E30 was GOATed but I just don't like the M4 GT3. I think it's the power delivery; feels peaky.

who here has a moza r3 and how do you like it?

>>28568455
we use the T300 around here

>>28568443
das it mane

>>28568028
LOOK UPON MY WORKS YE MIGHTY AND DESPAIR. I had to look at the assembly directly to figure this out.

Why was the Ford GT Race Car Mark II a flat crank in Gran Turismo 4?

>>28568593
why was the RX-7 LM a three rotor?
and why was the FTO LM rear wheel drive?

Why wasn't the real Mitsubishi FTO RWD?

>>28568590
Holy based

>>28568595
>Why wasn't the real Mitsubishi FTO RWD?
I assume so they didn't need to build an entirely new transmission just for a non-global sports car.

>>28568609
They could've asked Lolvo for one, I'm sure they had plenty of 240 gearboxes

>>28568590
yooooooooo thats sick

ps2 hot pursuit 2 is pretty based, apparently they fixed most of the hardware mode graphics issues a while back and no one's updated the wiki page. crazy how responsive it feels for a 30fps (ugh) PS2 game, i'd almost swear the actual physics are running at 60 since the patch to display 60 is so simple and smooth. also, i thought ferrari had a hangup about not being in games with police chases? swear that was a thing in older NFSs and they were championship mode only, but not in HP2

>>28568455
save up and get at least the r9

>HOT TAKE
a heavy as fuck load cell brake sucks

>>28568455
Its pretty good and you will probably be satisfied if you're a casual player. It certainly beats a logitech g29. If you're a bit more serious I would consider a Moza R9 or R12 to avoid having to upgrade later.

>>28568709
maybe youre just fat. ever though of that?

>>28568854
skill issue

>>28568854
I was expecting those cars ripping through the Masta Kink at 150+ MPH, not shitters spinning out on nu-Spa.

>>28568868
>>28568876
The whole thing was a mess

If Spa is the de_dust2 of racing, what is the de_mirage?

>>28568734
doesn’t even make sense
fat people have strong as fuck legs for obvious reasons. I dislike it because it’s unrealistic for croozing in shitboxes

>>28568890
barcelona

FQ9KP-WXX3Y-2VX7H-QQRXV-9J2MZ

pretend you don't understand its expired and get 3 weeks gamepass

vacuum more often
...

>>28568590
Decompiled pseudocode from IDA was missing an assignment of "xp * scr_size >> 6" to the screen x position of the draw structs in the 4400 line gigafunction DrawTrack3. Took me awhile to figure out.

>FR
>great power to weight ratio
>hybrid (dog food + leftovers)
>reliable (good boy)

rate my dog.

>>28568854
Fun fact about collisions in LMU
90% of the time you will get the worst of it if you're on the inside and you bump a guy
As odd as it sounds the best you can do to keep the car from spinning if you know (big if, to be fair) contact is going to happen is to lift a little and straighten the wheel a little.

>>28566035
Kaz took money from the Motor Toon games to fund gran turismo, it took awhile for Sony to give the greenlight, that's why it took so long

What’s the deal with ABS in GT7?
The game literally trail brakes perfectly for you. Nice „sim“ you got there

>>28569459
Turning on the assist actually...assists you?

12Nm on DD is the sweetspot after which diminishing returns kick in hard or is there real non-autistic benefits for going higher? I mostly play rally, touge and drift on a 12 inch wheel (wouldn't mind using a 13 inch or even 14 inch wheel in a new setup).

>>28569519
There’s a difference between assist and doing all the work for you

>>28569459
Gran Turismo is rhythm game

>>28569524
pls respond :(

>>28569575
you don’t need that much torque for rally and drifting

>>28569592
Not even for a 14 inch wheel?

>>28569600
good question. I wouldn’t know
t. babby wheel

>>28569459
yeah it's very easy to trail brake on GT. braking in general there is much easier than say iRacing. you try to trail brake too much on iRacing and the car will want to spin out, which doesn't happen in GT

>>28569668
so should I disable ABS completely in GT7?

I'm not sure what's going on with AMS2, but I can't even take high speed corners like the kink at Road America or blanchimont at Spa flat out with a GT3 car, but I can do that just fine in iRacing. Are the default setups just that bad in AMS2?

>>28569672
if you want to be slow

>>28569668
iRenting doesn't represent brakes on GT3's properly, where you drivers are intended to lean on the ABS to slow down properly and really do just slam 100% pedal all the time

>>28569681
but they told me it was the most realistic sim?

>>28569686
The more money you spend and the more difficult it is to drive the race car the more realistic it is. Boosted Media told me so!

>>28569686
Real GT3 cars are insanely easy to drive. They have ridiculous next level nannies. Unironically GT7 is the most realistic in that regard

>>28569752
Yeah but GT7 has the issue of tires that are way too good; impossible to overheat and offering insane levels of grip.
>Oh but muh bespoke Yokohama tire or Confidential Michelin
Personally I think drivers are overstating how good those tires are. Maybe like 1-2% faster than a Pirelli or Goodyear.

>>28569760
just pick a less grippy compound then. I never use the racing tires unless I’m driving those 900PP giga mobiles. in fact, I rarely go higher than sport hard

>>28569079
Fixed the left edge polygons clipping when they intersect with the edge. Still have the issue with the double texture on the bikini model though. I think that's because of my simplified UV handling after I got rid of the interleaved texture data.

>>28569760
>Yeah but GT7 has the issue of tires that are way too good; impossible to overheat and offering insane levels of grip.
i thought the main problem with gt7 tires is that grip goes from 100 to 0,it's not very gradual

>>28569752
>Real GT3 cars are insanely easy to drive
then why do gt3 drivers keep mocking ferrari challenge drivers for being dentists driving cars with training wheels on

>>28569976
Because ferrari challenge cars are GT3s with training wheels on top of their training wheels

>>28569976
And anyway, unless you're making money depending on the class you race on, who gives a fuck
the best races I ever had were with 1990s group A shitters

AssEvo will fix the simracing genre

>>28569377
chat gpt bot post

>>28569981
The 296 challenge handles like shit, it's much worse than it's GT3 counterpart. It's in no way easier to drive.

>work karting event
>download janky kart and even jankier track mod for AC
>autistically ran 200 practice laps
>didn't even win
a-at least i had fun

>>28570231
based

>>28570231
Your soundtrack
https://youtu.be/Mwwe_osHing

>>28570314
>it's exactly i put on when i'm whispering sweet nothings in a pentium 2's ear

>mfw TAKENOBU MITSUYOSHI OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE

So any good racing games released in the 2020s and don't say TXR because I don't mean unfinished games where they lied about the release date.

>>28570351
it's not even out yet retard

>>28570353
That's what I said

>>28570343
Tfw your drone turns around and flies backwards

>>28570370
>mfw years of death mode gremlin cup runs have prepared me for the robot apocalypse

From the official Toyota jp channel in the last few seconds of this video, is that GT7 lighting?
https://youtu.be/k7ewRhSYYtA

>>28570452
could be, wouldn't put it past them, but i'd wager it's just a render with similar graphics
either way, can't wait for it to get inevitably shitcanned and never built

Also Kaz was spotted at a GM reveal at The Quail.
https://youtu.be/ozoioNYgxtk

He'll be judging at Pebble Beach on Sunday. Say hi to him.

>>28570460
>shitcanned and never built
Nope, its Toyota's homologation car for their GT3 effort since the RCF is fat and old. Rookie Racing was using their AMG GT3 Evo as a test mule for this which explains the proportions. Both the camouflaged race and road car were driven in Goodwood and the GT3 is already in the testing phase at multiple tracks.

>>28570468
well that's nice to hear at least
i was underestimating how far along the car was by quite a bit

>>28566104
>>28566353
id unironically buy balkan forza

>>28570529
>ex-yu forza
>brand new mechanic where going off-road carries a risk of driving into an unmarked minefield

>>28570549
we heard that players didnt like how easy it was to traverse the map without taking the roads, so we added an extra element of surprise thats sure to spice up the cross-country gameplay experience

>>28570551
>>28570549
>there is a comically huge explosion accompanied by a nu-traditional balkan accordion fanfare and your car gets gmod physgun punted motocross-madness-edge-of-the-map-style
>this is presented as you doing your part by clearing minefields with your face

>>28570586
GOTY

>>28570592
my first thought is to turn og halo warthog jumping or c4 jumping from battlefield into an actual mobile gameplay element where there are areas of the map only accessible by stunting into them off a really big explosion or chain or something.
the way carmageddon mines work is kinda what i'm thinking but more powerful

>>28570622
that sounds pretty fun honestly

I'm trying so hard to like RBR, but the cars just randomly lose traction even at low speeds, or the wheels lock if my big toe goes anywhere near the brake pedal. The brakes barely work anyway.

inb4 git gud

>>28570314
can anon put these songs in his game without getting killed with copyright stuff

>>28570902
whiplash's mid '90s sheffield rave vibe is irreplaceable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCK3bncLIGg
i wish these tracks were 10 hours long and produced by paul oakenfold

>>28570718
are you in rally school mode? what car?

men only want one thing

why is Assetto Corsa considered a simulation game when it lacks in so many areas?
>stability control does not work like in real life where it applies brakes or cuts throttle but is unrealistic and magic damping force applied to yaw axis to prevent cars rotating too much. It allows to drift around in f1 cars
>no engine, oil and water temp simulation
>unrealistic throttle model

>>28570998
mods fixed it

>>28570998
idk bro let me call up john simulation and ask him

you called?

>>28560668 (OP)
burgerring turned into silent hill again

>>28571038
kino. I wish they would just go and embrace the fogg

>>28571038
Doubt I could even get hard for such a skanky tatted up hog, let alone impregnate one.

>>28571051
nobody asked + you will never impregnate anyone

>>28571051
sir, this is a tweet about the nurburgring being foggy

>>28570922
and its fucking disgusting
wtf is that nigrunners inspired hud?

>>28571054
Simp harder
>>28571090
Hard to tell with the femoid managing to make herself the focus of the video.

>>28570351
txr

How is AC Evo these days? On Steam it still has mixed reviews.

>>28570998
It's good enough and if you want something more realistic, there is AC Competizione.

>>28571219
Still merely a demo. Update 0.3 (hopefully) comes out very soon though.
If introduces multiplayer, a bunch of new cars, tracks and tire model 2.0

I like the falken porsche livery

>>28570918
I went straight to hotlaping, tried the VW Polo, Fiesta R3, Escort MKII, Xsara and a few others. The physics feels somehow oddly unnatural, even on tarmac (I much prefer AC for tarmac for the physics and FFB, but since there is no leaderboards I get unmotivated, its kinda boring just trying to beat my own time with no idea of what global times would be). I'll insist on RBR for a few weeks, but if I can't get into it I'll just unninstall again, I guess. EA's WRC has terrible physics and FFB, the cars don't gradually lose traction and you can't get a grasp of it properly through the FFB. DR2.0 is pretty good on gravel but has terrible tarmac physics (and I'm kinda tired of the same few stages I always play, New Zealand, Greece, Argentina)

GT7 rally won

>>28571246
We underestimated Music Rally. RBRsisters, our response?

>>28571246
Kaz would never do it, but a point to point of the most famous stages would be amazing.

He's already done it before with the Goodwood Hillclimb and Pikes Peak, adding something like Col de Turini, Great Orme and Ouninpohja.

>>28571246
GT3 is the only dirt racing physics that are actually enjoyable to drive. I don't quite remember GT2's. Rest are absolute garbage including GT7.

>>28571096
>a digital speedo a tach and a map is literally too much for this zoomber

>>28570998
AC is really a simcade at best. Modders even went to the next level with that and made their cars have arcade physics. It just happens to have really good FFB (if not the best) and a much better tire model than GT or Forza

>>28571339
GT2 and GT3 have the most fun physics in general when talking about the franchise. GT4 is a travesty, but GT5 onwards was an improvement from that.

>>28571421
The most enjoyable on-road physics were GT1 and GT3, but GT1 didn't have rally. Yes everything past GT4 vanilla were "better" than it but still incredibly lifeless as far as controllers go.

>>28571038
do you think jimmer and steve eifel tower that bitch?

>>28571411
>made their cars have arcade physics
no they didn't. you can't make an ac car "have" arcade physics, it requires a massive fuckload of LUA work.
to this date the only person to ever discover and utilize ac arcade physics is our own tunari. all the other ac modders do is throw on drift tires copypasted from something else.

cars are not hard to drive by the way, you don't need to make anything less realistic or turn on arcade physics to do this.
you just need to get good

Where is he today? The main events on Saturday are the Laguna Seca's historic races and that one Hagerty party

I think I'm starting to understand my dislike for RBR. When you powerslide on a dirt road the car will not slow down realistically, it will slide like a frictionless blob on ice, like there is no real weight to the car or tire grip at all. Its like they made a generally realistic physics engine...and then tuned it a couple sliders too high because harder = more realistic in their minds. I could adapt, of course. Maybe I'll start having fun once it really clicks, but I'm not sure its worth it...

>>28571440
like this is a single t-180 lua file
this is so far beyond the average ac modder it's ridiculous. nobody is just making random cars arcade physics, they're just bad mods with chat gpt tires and 360 degrees of steering lock

>>28571458
"Harder = more realistic" is the major issue with the grand majority of simulation racers. I'm still not calling things simcade because that term gets abused too much.

>>28571448
Man, rich people don't dress up like they used to...

simcade gets used for literally anything from any game that doesn't have on rails drifting to any game that has auto clutch, stop using that gay ass meaningless word you gay ass meaningless niggas

>>28571465
I'm not calling RBR a simcade, its just a flawed sim. I much prefer a fun simcade with deep enough physics like GT7 or DR2.0 than a soulless tryhard sim.

>>28571479
The main problem is that people use "simcade" as an insult to mean "anything that isn't as needlessly difficult as iRenting and its garbage tire model," instead of actually determining if the game's intention is to be a simulation or not. It would be more honest to just call things a "bad simulation" but then you wouldn't get to feel like part of an elite group of dadracers.

>>28571465
my problem is fucking retards slide off the road and spin out in any game and then go "ooooh the game is TOO HARD" when they actually have the setup menu right there to see what is going on and correct it.
a car in a game is not an immutable object, all the feel comes from the alignment which may or may not be right for you personally out of the box since obviously you didn't make the game.

that's why it's important to learn vehicle dynamics so you can understand why a particular car in a game handles like poop and fix it using the provided utilities rather than throwing the playstation controller in a huff and coming online to complain to everyone that the simmy wimmy hurt your litle baby feefees cause it didn't let you make a 90 degree turn at 200 mph.

>>28571398
What does that slider even do

>>28571448
today’s NLS retard.
and Porsche won as per usual

>>28571469
poorfags who want to be rich do though
>>28571488
just to be clear, you don’t play the vanilla RBR right?

>>28571545
No, I'm on the RSF verison.

>>28571545
>poorfags who want to be rich do though
I'm not advocating for vulgar displays of wealth or fashion trends here. All I'm trying to say is that people in general seem to have given up on trying, like they are too cool to care about showing some modicum of respect for the occasion. Literal bums from the great depression dressed with more dignity than the average wealthy person today.

>>28571559
I live in the south, no one is fucking wearing overcoats just to look fancy unless they like dying of heatstroke, too.

>>28571559
>people realized style is ephemeral and doesn't matter except to weird little tradcucks pining for days they never lived so just do whatever you want and enjoy life

glad i live in irl and not anons gay little normoid rockwell universe

>>28571566
Ah yes, I'm sure you're an enlightened free thinker like all other cynical, godless hedonists of our time. You can see right through the BS of tradition, right?

>>28571566
>do whatever you want and enjoy life
it's insane to me that people can live life with no grander ambition
just hedonistic pleasure-seeking like a primal ape

>>28571566
This post is some Rick and Morty levels of cringe. Please tell me you're not over 16 yet.

>>28571593
If White people were actually godless hedonists our countries probably wouldn't be in the shithole state that they are now.

>>28571593
>>28571594
>>28571597
tradition is peer pressure from dead people
don't be a fucking simp

>>28571603
having a goal in life is not tradition

>>28571605
standing in line at a drug store for a free donut and coffee (this is the only meal you will get today) is not a goal no matter how dapper you look
how is it a goal to live your ancestors' lives again?

>>28571603
Tradition is the concentrated, refined wisdom of thousands of generations that managed to reach you. Unfortunately there is no point in throwing pearls to swine. Go ahead, bring down the walls that were built and maintained for generations, I'm sure they exist for no reason at all aside than inconvenience you. [spoiler]Can there be salvation for this generation of retarded apes?[/spoiler]

>>28571566
uncs be malding @ faxnuke

I'm over here actually married with 2 kids, third in the oven, going to Mass every week I still dress like a bum most days.

Video games

>>28571624
Good for you, anon. Unironically. Just don't go to grannys funeral dressed as Guy Fieri and you're already better than average in that regard.

>>28571612
yet you post a picture taken in a time where the "concentrated, refined wisdom" of thousands of generations before suddenly failed society, the economy collapsed, and even able men had to beg and accept charity such as free donuts and coffee.
those people lived not in some far off time bupble but in OUR past, their decisions influenced what we experience today. it's shitty now because of them.

>>28571631
You're right, a crisis happened back then, we should ban clothes and reject all tradition immediately. Its the only logical choice. This is how retarded you sound.

>>28571611
I don't even know what you're projecting right now but you can just admit it you're a hedonist
who said anything about ancestors' lives and when did I ever call that a goal?

>>28571633
you said and thought all that, not me.
tradition is to be learned from and iterated upon not mindlessly copied like a fucking parrot
if you want to live the life they did just kill yourself and you can rot in the ground with them right now

anons, im new to AC, help me out in the right direction
i want to race against ai on nordschleife in some older 70's-80's cars
i have all settings/controls working, i have ac manager installed, SOL, nordschleife map with recommended "patches" ( all of the above took me some time )
what else do i need to get started, if i want the ultimate experience?

>>28571649
>openly mocks and rejects tradition
>"u-uh actually I totally respect tradition, I'm just improving it by completely disregarding it like the free thinker intellectual that I am"

enough about your nonsense, retard.

Well, well.
Apparently even the GOAT dislikes rock hard load cell pedals in sims

>>28571668
How do I get this much brake travel from T-LCMs?

>>28571668
I sure as FUCK hate them

>>28571662
i respect actual tradition like going fast and turning left

i openly mock and reject your "tradition" because what you think is traditional is shallow and trite period marketing from coca-cola and not actually a reflection of reality in any way.
please put your mouth on a running car exhaust and rip it like a bong

>>28571559
>line isn't segregated
what the fuck? have i been lied to all this time?

>>28571700
Yes

>>28571682
remove washers

tilkedromes > boomer ass ww1 tracks

>>28571559
give me 1 reason why I shouldn't go to walmart in my pajamas other than "these dead people doe"

>>28571813
By dressing and conducting yourself well you not only show that you respect those around you, you show that you respect yourself. Its about lifting yourself from the base apathy of society and aiming at higher things in life, and yes, even the way you dress and act are a part of that. Or you can keep on being an NPC and think only about short term gratification and avoiding the hardships and sacrifices od life, like most people do.

For me it's IsiMotor 2.
LONG LIVE THE ISIMOTOR 2
youtu.be/qfPK0ziDrYs
youtu.be/tfIZKRdXKks
2 more weeks (until the 20 year rFactor anniversary)

>>28571837
kek cope

>>28571853
I don't think you understand what that word means.

>>28571859
>a dun chink yuu undewstand

>>28571837
>tradcucks really believe this

love when retarded faggots reignite old bait from hours before

>>28571559
The car killed the hat as a practical accessory anyway.

>>28571837
Bro the last piece of media I saw in the last two hours was a fat nigger doing sports hosting who thought that Milwaukee was on the west coast. He's probably gonna get paid half a million dollars by Disney. He was dressed in an ill-fitting (even for a fat guy) hoodie.

WHAT fucking respect is there in this world? Fucking look around you.

and thread derailed
great job faggots

>>28571906
>piece of media
stopped reading there

>>28571911
Yeah I know reading more than a few words at a time is difficult for you.

>>28571914
>difficult for you.
stopped reading there

I'm not a gooner so I ethically consume pieces of media with extreme media literacy also I run a 2:15 spa

>>28571906
And? I won't allow others to dictate my behaviour. If anything, seeing people like that makes me even more devoted to NOT being like them.

>>28571918
*tips fedora*

>>28571919
I'm a Catholic. Christ is King.

>>28571906
are you bragging or complaining

>>28571920
Ah so part of the leftists helping to bring "refugees" into every White country. Thanks. Asshole.

Someone make a new thread and make sure to praise GT7 and Thrustmaster in the OP

>>28571905
The cape should make a comeback, its a very versatile and practical accesory. It certainly beats ties.

>>28571435
Steve has a gf, they're the one of the few simfags who aren't virgins

>>28571931
shut up kaz

>>28572040
>>28572040
>>28572040
>>28572040
>>28572040
nu

>>28571934
Who's stopping you from buying and wearing capes?