Thread 28563356

I’ll be honest… gun to my head, if I have to make the switch to an electric vehicle, it’ll be a Tesla sedan.

The problem with Tesla specifically is the forced minimalism, I actually prefer having buttons for things, and other things like turn signal / wiper stocks and non-touch gear selection. Other than that, though? The cars are powerful, charge fast, have high range, and are reasonably priced. Every other brand out there, from companies like Lucid to Polestar, are overpriced and don’t have the same performance. The oversees Chinese competitors from BYD and the like are basically glorified zero-emission taxi cabs, just the most basic quality and functions to keep them affordable. The old guard brands who joined the EV market are also overpriced and don’t perform that well, even if they have better quality interiors.

So really, even though Elon is a gargantuan manchild, why does Tesla still remain the best option for EV consumers?

>>28563356 (OP)
They look shit though.

>>28563389
Maybe? I’d rather get an Audi or BMW, sure, but I’m not ready to pay 1.5 times more for less performance.

>>28563356 (OP)
I really miss when elon was your libcuck idol, it's really pathetic seeing so many crybaby faggots like you get butthurt and eat your own to the point of them fucking off to the other side of the spectrum.

>>28563405
What the fuck are you talking about? I just think he’s an annoying attention-starved child, it has nothing to do with politics.

>>28563411
shut up faggot

Teslas are the best cars cause of just convenience features. Imagine having to take your car to the fucking dealership to update the maps. Meanwhile, my Tesla just live streams the latest maps when navigating. My city installed speed cameras and before they even were issuing tickets my Tesla was giving me alerts whenever I approached them.

>>28563356 (OP)
I'd advice a Kia EV6 over the Model 3. Less value depreciation, more practical and no insurance costs that will bankrupt you. Also Teslas tend to break down. High mileage Teslas tend to have undergone numerous motor swaps.

You can however find Model 3s now for bargain prices.

>>28563448
Most EVs have OTAs now. With that said, my 2019 Niro is easily updated by me via the SD card.

>>28563461
Doesn’t look like a sedan, but you’re right, that will totally hold a better value.

>>28563461
>High mileage Teslas tend to have undergone numerous motor swaps.
I'll have to look into this later to see when mine will likely need a new motor

>>28563356 (OP)
Generally have a strong dislike of EVs

But for me it's the R1T

>>28563356 (OP)
Electric vehicles are feminine and signals that you fell for the climate change meme

>>28563570
>Every woman in my neighborhood drives either a giant SUV or a pickup truck they can barely step into

Idk maybe women have better taste and your perceptions are outdated

>>28563583
You’re more feminine then women

>>28563461
>Teslas tend to have undergone numerous motor swaps.
the 1 million mile tesla went through like 15 motor swaps lmfao

>>28563590
Redditor seething over truckchads again

>>28563642
Redditors are the market for electric cars

>>28563661
I'm not an EV shill. My point was that women are hardly the target market of EV sales.

>>28563675
If you drive an EV then you are an EV shill. You are promoting them and the woke ideology behind them wherever you go

>>28563356 (OP)
Nice undercover shill thread, fuck off faggot

>>28563461
One of these got punted into a ditch on the road I live off of. Held up pretty good and didn't catch fire. I would still buy a tesla. I dont really care about the fag who owns it. If people did nobody would drive a Ford either.

I think the ford maverick is a sensible vehicle for my needs desu

>>28563356 (OP)
>does Tesla still remain the best option for EV consumers?
It appears so. Check out Harry's Garage vids on youtube. Tesla remains the most efficient pure EV. German EV are overpriced. No one's sure about chinkshit yet

>>28563936
>Tesla remains the most efficient pure EV.
I think the Ioniq 6 is more efficient. Harry loves retard fast cars but truth is that Tesla is way overtuned for most people's needs. I agree that German EVs are too overpriced. The Volkswagen ID line-up is also exceptionally ugly and dull.

>>28563936
I think the Koreans have the potential to sweep the Model 3 market. For starters, their cars aren’t butt ugly like most of the German and American EVs, and the interiors are typical to gas models.

Just selling at a loss like all of his shitty companies

>>28564164
This desu

I hate EVs, and Korean cars are generally bad. but aside from the Kia Soul, their exteriors are usually decent

>>28564108
>>28564164
Seen a handful on the road here, like a dolphin. How does the range/charging compare to Tesla?

>>28564313
The Tesla 3 is cheaper and has (slightly) better range, while the Kia EV6 is more powerful and has a functional interior.

for me, im considering a 2019 audi e-tron
they're going pretty cheap now (€30k or thereabout) and are nice cars
cant beat the quietness and smoothness of electric

>>28563389
eh, they just look vaguely european

>>28564530
You mean responsiveness? I can't notice when volvo hybrid runs out of battery and switches to electric. Gasolines can be plenty smooth just not very responsive.

>>28564564
responsiveness is maybe more correct
very long i considered buying a v90 t6 or t8 because i was convinced i sneeded the extra range a petrol/diesel engine gives you but after driving a few volvos i realized that i absolutely detest their petrol engine

>Left stalk for turn signal, high beam, and wiper
>Right stalk for shifting gear, park, and cruise control
>Left dial for media control and programmable functions including climate control and drive mode
>Right dial for cruise control settings
The old Tesla steering wheel is literally perfect. Fuck Elon and his obsession for cost cutting.
Anyway, get a used pre-refreshed model 3 with low mileage for the best bang for your buck. Otherwise, there are promising options in the future like the electric CLA which has good range and is not too expensive but early previews said that the interior materials feel cheap af and performance is mediocre. Rivian R3X (more like a hatchback) also looks promising but the company will likely be dead before then.

>>28563356 (OP)
>I’ll be honest… gun to my head, if I have to make the switch to an electric vehicle, it’ll be a
NINETEEN SEVENTY FIVE CITICAR

>>28563389
Fords new EV platform has the potential to blow Tesla away.

The model 3 is one of the best selling cars on the planet. But it’s a skateboard platform so they’re limited on what they can do. Every model will have the same flor height and close to the same wheel base. Other architecture can be different but not drastically so.

A modular assembly is cheaper, faster (allowing for more QC time), and easier to adapt to different models. Ford is saying the first model (due in 2027) will be a mid sized 4-door $30k electric truck. That same assembly line could easily be retooled to make an electric crossover that’s only marginally similar to the truck. So the EV’s they make will be priced as similar ICE vehicles.

It’s not like a 1990’s Explorer and F-150, where a shit ton of similarities exist between the same platform, or the current C2 platform (Escape, Maverick, Bronco Sport, etc.). It’s an entirely new way of making vehicles, but looks like it’s only adapted for EV’s

>>28565871
Ultimate shitbox tier

>>28565869
Getting into a KIA or a chinamobil afterwards was a disappointment for e as well.
3/y was very close to perfection. Juniper and Highlander not so much, despite the small cumulative material quality improvements,

>>28563356 (OP)
You really do get used to no buttons. The shittiest part by far is the turn signals and the make an aftermarket kit that does the turn signals and wipers and shifter, not that you need the shifter.

>>28566332
they could make a big ladder with a shelf/ves for the batteries instead of the meme incorporate batteries into the chassis gimmick that regularly puts tesla repair bills up to 5 figures

>>28566476
There still isn't one skateboard on the market with hard soldered battery pack.

>>28566577
And for good reason. You'd have to take the whole fucking car apart to replace a faulty module.
For all the memeing about disposable vehicles, that particular layout would be truly disposable.

>>28565869
Knowing Elon, he cut out the inclusion of two plastic sticks just because of his autism, nothing to do with cost cutting.

>>28563356 (OP)
I had to park one of a client and couldn't stand it even though I only drove it like 30 feet. They don't roll when you let your foot off the accelerator. You let off and the car almost immediately stops. Pushing the accelerator is what makes it move only. The shifter is on the touch screen. You slide your finger up to go forward and back to go back, middle for park. Fucking piece of shit.

If I had money the E-Tron GT. Mogs the fuck out of any Tesla model.

>>28567290
In what way on a BEV skateboard?
All the components are separable from each other. The crash bars can also be hack sawed off and replaced.

The only annoying thing, is that the cooling loop is still in its infancy as a system. I think BLADE cells are getting close, but still too far away from being a mature system.
But the litmus test is always going to be if the repair shop can bother to do BASIC diagnostic, and basic disassembly, instead of treating t he entire 70kWh pack as a black soldered box.

>>28567404
It was because they were planning on fsd being way better than it was. You would've been able to put it in autopilot and push the entire steering wheel into the dashboard completely out of the way. Going stalkless was in anticipation of that but it never happened.

>>28567562
True. My favorite parts are the big gigantic fake grille to appease the Chinese market and the part where it's a lot slower despite costing more.

>>28567562
In performance + space for passengers and cargo? Not at all.
In everything else? Absolutely.

t. Audifag

I'm going to go buy a 2022 R1T Adventure tomorrow unless I pussy out last second

Wish me luck bros

does anyone do self driving better than Tesla at a similar price point? I don't give 2 shits about it being an EV... but i want low stress commuting.

I'm an boomer and every interstate drive is so fucking draining with all the distracted morons and super aggressive drivers. I see multiple near-collisions with ever single commute.

Low maintenance.

>>28567551
>I want my car to move forward when I don’t press the accelerator
?

Imagine paying a premium for beta testing EV's. I'll keep my gas cars till 2040 or something when they ban new ice cars. By then 15 years of additonal Chinese and European state subsidized R&D trickle down should have made EV's a lot better than it is now.

>>28564349
>>28564164
>>28563936

Not a climatefag but just bought a 2025 Hyundai Ioniq 5. I really like it actually, I did not think I would, but given my current situation and living in socal, it seems like a good option. It has a 318+ range and has the tesla charging port and I have the other adapters so I can charge anywhere. Plus I like how it looks.

>>28568696
Self driving no but it sounds like you just want adaptive cruise control which is pretty much every new car nowadays

>>28563356 (OP)
>why does Tesla still remain the best option for EV consumers?

Other brands are starting to copy Tesla EV but they are much MORE expensive. Now Volkswagon is going to charge monthly and annual subscription fees to have the following features:

-- air conditioning (subscription)
-- more horsepower (subscription)
-- remote start

Explanation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNeIcQXy74