Thread 28568766

how are they STILL not saying anything about the internals of this thing? Isn't it supposed to go on sale in a month or some shit?

They haven't publicized it because it's underwhelming, but reports indicate it will have the same drivetrain as the Civic Hybrid. 200hp, CVT only, 0-60 in 6.2 seconds. I don't see this thing succeeding unless it's priced at like $20k, but a leaked Japenese dealership documents have it priced higher than a Civic Type-R.

>>28568794

RWD?

>>28568794
sauce on the dealership documents? I was looking forward driving one if they were Si/Civic Hybrid money but if not that's too bad then

I know not everything is meant to be a sports car or whatever, but if you're buying a new "sporty" car with a 2026+ model year, there's no excuse for my nearly twenty year old Infiniti to beat it. It looks sharp though

>>28568807
FWD
>>28568811
https://www.carscoops.com/2025/08/honda-prelude-japan-price-leak-hybrid-coupe/

>>28568818
There used to be a whole class of non-sporty coupes that basically died during the 2000s. Celica, cobalt, prelude etc. Excited to have one for sale again with such good mileage and a nice interior for the current year, although if >>28568821 is correct then the fuel savings aren't worth it for how costly it will be (especially compared to a Miata)

>>28568766 (OP)

>fwd
>no manual option
>turboslop tiny engine


Oh wow why was it a sales disaster?

>>28568766 (OP)
Shouldn't they at least be actively marketing it to normies or something? This should basically be for your average NPC that would otherwise be buying a Corolla or Civic or even some shit tier compact CUV but as a "fun" alternative. Honda is crazy if they expect this to just make waves based off the Prelude name alone unless they expect to sell about as many of these as they did CR-Zs.
Less, even, since I don't see any manual option which most 2/3-door Honda hybrids have previously had.

The civic hybrid is msrp'd at 30k flat, the hell makes you think a sports upmarket nameplate would be the same price let alone cheaper.

That powertrain fucking disappointing if true. Couldn't even up the battery to idk 4kwh and give it a bigger ev motor?
Preludes had always been given better engine options over a civic. The prelude was
>refined civic gofastman,
Like a sensible daily driver flex on the eco shitters.

If it's literally a civic with harder suspension and slightly bigger brakes what the fuck Honda.

>>28568960
Same shit with the Integra reboot. Maybe it's pure autism but I liked it when Honda would make slightly different engines for their cars (H22 and B18s compared to K20s and B16s). For the price, realistically I'll take it under 35k, over that is madness and not worth it

>>28568821
>FWD

>>28568807
LMAO

>>28568807
>>28568849
>>28568990
its honda. why would it not be FWD? do you like honda at all?

>>28568998
>its honda. why would it not be FWD?

S2000
NSX

Some of their best cars have been RWD.

>>28569006
its like going to GM for anything but their V8s, and then pointing to one or two non good V8s they've made. again, do you like Honda at all?

>>28568766 (OP)
Is this an Integra situation where this is a base model and it's meant to be shit to make way for the real thing?

>>28569006
So you are implying that Honda can only make 2 good cars in history?

It’s funny how the most remarkable Hondas are coincidentally RWD.

>>28568766 (OP)
Its a got 2 electric motors, a 2.0L NA engine thats used as a generator 90% of the time for the hybrid system. Its "eCVT" meaning there's no transmission at all, and the hybrid system drives the car. The ICE engine does have a direct drive clutch that enables it to assist when needed.

>>28569078
Wow that sounded pretty boring.
At least Honda is consistent.

>>28568821
>41k
Maybe I will wait three years after release. My civic only has 70k miles and I think I should just get a motorcycle that is higher end than a rebel 300 in the coming years.

>>28568766 (OP)
Because it is meant to be competition to the miata and GR86 while being worse than both at being sporty.

>>28568766 (OP)
It's literally a Civic with different suspension, wheels, and body styling.
>>28568794
Bummer, I was hoping for the 30-35 range.

>>28568766 (OP)
If it's electric, might as well make it RWD

>>28569480
Since it's hybrid and "sport" they need to have an ice+2 motor active eAWD option and >260hp, rear motor direct drives the rear wheels.

If weight under 3200, call it 42k plus tip and you got yourself the new era's high trim 1990 crx

>hybrid platform,
>can't be modded
Into the trash it goes.

>>28568766 (OP)
Where manual?

>>28568766 (OP)
Is cute is like a mini lil s550

It sucks; who cares

>>28568818
>no excuse for my nearly twenty year old Infiniti to beat it.
Dude a fox body mustang from 1986 has better numbers.
This is just pathetic for Honda.

>>28568766 (OP)
It will be expensive, it will be screenslop, it will be only somewhat quick, and it will ride like a chuck wagon. Sucks to get fucked.

>>28568849
>no manual
Oh for fuck's sake.

>consumers asks for prelude to be revived
>honda delivers.... with cvt only
it will shit the bed and they'll go all with "rook rook the consuma don wan fun cah the mahket wan suv"
Boost the hype, launch half baked car and kill it, like the new nsx, cz-r and honda e

Toyota has zero competition, really carrying the entire planet at this point.

>>28568766 (OP)
>CVT only
Into the trash it goes!

>>28570029
They aren't even reviving the Prelude, it's just the 11th gen Civic coupe with the Prelude name slapped on it so people won't ask for other trim levels.

>>28568766 (OP)
What reason does anyone have to buy this over a Miata or Toyobaru besides something sporty car buyers don't care much about like fuel economy?

>>28570078
It's supposedly going to be a market competitor with the gr86.
Supposedly.

>The Prelude’s chief engineer Tomoyuki Yamagami confirmed to TG the power figure is the same as in the Civic, so you’re looking at 181bhp being sent to the front wheels.
I really don't understand the point of this car when the civic si exists. it does look nicer and I'm sure the design language will carry over to the next civic which should be coming probably in the next year. I dunno why anyone would get this instead of just waiting for the next civic

>>28570147
>competitor with the gr86
yeah okay

>>28568966
>For the price, realistically I'll take it under 35k,
Why would you get this CVT depression box instead of an elantra N if you're considering fwd?

>coupe 2+2 liftback
very rare drop in current year

looking forward to CRZ-level sales numbers, discontinuation in 4 years and type R powertrain swaps in 10 years

>CVT
just fucking ask Mazda for their AT fucking hell, you're not even gonna sell 100k of these

>>28569078
This sounds very, very complex and expensive. Absolutely the opposite of 90s Hondas that you could fix with a basic toolkit.

>>28570176
Hyundai cars ARE depression shitboxes!

>>28570202
Then what do you call a 180hp CVT fwd pig with hybrid weight gain?

>>28570176
>buying korean

>>28570176
Two door+looks nice+GAWDlike fuel economy. I drove an Elantra N and I really liked the drive but I hate how it looks

does it even have 4ws like a real lude?

>>28570217
for some reason its suddenly not garbage if it japanese
>>28570234
fair enough, they grew on me when i saw one in person but it looked fuck ugly in pictures to me
we need more shitboxes in track spec like the type R/N

>>28570172
Whatev niggy it's some shit I read from the very sparse info floating around.
>>28570170
Oh it is just a global economic depression box that was conceived when NoStAlGiA meme was peaking among the normies.

They'll sell about 15 thou of these to late gen x / early millenials, some thous more to everyone else.

Are they even marketing this as a sports car? I thought that it was just a regular coupe. The fucking trailer and the promotional images they made for this scream non sport to me. The CTR for example has a very different ad.

>>28570504
>CTR has a different ad
Well no shit that was back in the 90s and a PS1 game for a playstation mascot.

>>28570170
The Civic SI's stressed out L15 will pop a head gasket by 80k because Honda copied Ford's homework.

>>28568766 (OP)
This is an embarrassment to the Prelude name.
I'd rather buy the Chevy Silvercolorado with the V8

>>28570217
Are you getting buyer’s remorse from your gook car? I dunno what to tell you. My car is older than you.

>>28568766 (OP)
>make a Celica
>call it a Prelude

>>28568960
Preludes were previously accord based tho

>>28570176
Because I'm not a fucking nigger. I wouldn't drive your fuckin kiundai cilantro if you fucking gave it to me for free and paid me 100k/yr to own it

>>28568766 (OP)
The pug RCZ was an objectively worse 308 and that somehow sold

>>28568794
when you realize what this car is, it's not a bad package. fundamentally it's an integra hybrid coupe with some type R components, and since it's being built in the ohio plant, it'll very likely be priced affordably enough stateside to make sense.
the lack of manual hurts but it makes sense because there literally IS no transmission; it's direct drive to the front wheels with a torquey electric motor that they managed to tune well enough with S+ shift to make it feel like a solid DCT

>how are they STILL not saying anything about the internals of this thing?
well my guess was that it was supposed to be a stylish car for women to buy over a BRZ because they do not give a shit about FWD, no LSD, no manual, etc
but that only works if it's cheaper, or at least in the same fucking ball park