Thread 28576504

Its really over for our little hobby, isn't.

>>28576504 (OP)
Average age for getting your licence in my country is like 25 now. Public transport sucks, but the cost of living makes a car a luxury and nothing exciting is accessible enough to be worth it.
Shit time to be a young person.

>>28576504 (OP)
23yo zoomer here I didn't get my license until 20 and my first car until 22 because i was NEETing for a while driving my moms car to work because theres literally nowhere else to go

>>28576524
So what are you even doing on this board?

>>28576525
I fixed up an '87 Fiero. Honestly I always liked cars as a little kid and then just stopped for some reason. Now I feel like I've rediscovered some essential part of me that I would have been much happier if I had continued to embrace back in like, high school.

Anyway I'm gonna sell the Fiero and get either a C5 or a 350z

22yo zoomer here. I never got a license because I just ride my sports bike everywhere

>>28576524
I should have said I was NEETing for a while after high school and THEN just drove my moms car when i did finally get a job, bit of an oxymoron there

>>28576504 (OP)
My parents forced me to get my license at 16yrs old a day after my birthday.

Not the guest they're just using e-bikes.

why should we care that normies try at hate driving aren’t getting their licenses? how is this a bad thing? do you really want another generation of karens tiktok-and-drive or imported poojeets? we should absolutely celebrate cars becoming a mode of traffic only for those who care and want to do so

>>28576521
>nothing exciting is accessible enough
it is. but zoomers won’t settle for it. They want supercars like their influencer role models

>>28576534
how many chicks have you scored with on your scooter? I got laid in my chevelle, my delta 88, and my dodge pickup.

>>28576534
>sports bike
Oh neat, a sports bike! What is it?

Cars have become a nuisance and a scam rather than a convenience. Cities are built entirely around needing some sort of vehicle to get around so that forces you to either get a car or deal with public transport. Then the planned self destruction of cars that auto jews do so you have to keep buying a new car so you can go to work.

>>28576504 (OP)
>our little hobby
This faggot again, go back to /n/.

>>28576609
Aounds like you are sidelined from our little hobby already

>>28576504 (OP)
Let's see what /pol/ thought yesterday

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/513393312/

>>28576504 (OP)
Buying a car is retarded most of the time. If you're commuting, chances are buses are cheaper and more comfortable. If you live in inner city, you're better off with an e bike or electric scooter. Cars only make sense for families.

>>28576606
16 gixxer 1000

>>28576631
Oh...
I mean let's be honest though.
That's not a sports bike, its a road bike with sporty styling, and most people just call them lifestyle bikes.

>>28576600
Did the bitch chop you up in pieces and hide your body in 3 cars?

Father forgive me for replying to a namefag

I didn't my license until my 18th birthday, in March, and only because I needed it for the senior prom in May. Twenty-four years later and it's still the only date I've ever had.

>>28576504 (OP)
having a car kinda goes to shit when your city has any form of semi reliable public transport, it's nice to have, but a lot of the time it's just easier to outsource moving your ass somewhere to anyone else. The times a year I've genuinely need a car have been less than 10 give or take, I can see why younger people, specially those are not making much at the first jobs don't want to bother going into debt for something they really don't need
as a long as a single cool guy in the group chat has a car, everyone has a car for when it really matters

>used cars keep getting more expensive
>shitty job market (especially for new grads) = less reason to drive
this doesn't have anything to do with public transport being more appealing, transit in the us is still dogshit so idk what the other replies are smoking. and yeah new cars are boring as hell so kids have nothing to be excited about, but even boring used econoboxes are prohibitively expensive nowadays.

>>28576790
This whole website is not made up entirely of US residents anon

>>28576801
op posted a cnn article thoughbeit

>>28576801
That article is from an American news source talking about Americans. You are posting on an American website. Foreigners get strangely defensive over these basic facts.

>>28576804
Ayo dis nigga a pdf
>>28576734

>>28576504 (OP)
never will be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvQSkK8Z8U

>>28576504 (OP)
Probably because everything costs too much. Used car prices are fucked and nobody wants to do loans or risk shady dealerships. I sometimes look around for a shitty car as a beater for winter and the prices are dosgshit, and that's me actually looking for something that sucks.

>>28576504 (OP)
Lol, they think they're still living in a first world country.

>>28576504 (OP)
>our little hobby
I mean let's be honest, it's over for the whole next generation

>>28576504 (OP)
what kind of bullshit article is this? these kids rely on the parents for their first car, but then acts like kids dont want to drive like they could just afford one on their own?

>>28576504 (OP)
Testosterone levels are in the toilet
Zoomers were the most helicoptered generation and therefore are chronically allergic to adulthood and responsibility; mummy (no daddy, parents are divorced) will drive them anywhere they want to go anyway

>>28576600
Cars don't get you laid any more, grandpa.
Money (liquid) talks, bullshit (assets) drives.

>>28576913
>school is extended daycare into their 20s, doesn't teach kids anything about actually being a functional member of society
"golly why are young people so reliant on their parents even as they become adults????"

>>28576832
Still very much the top economy by and landslide

>>28576626
You're retarded all of the time.
>buses
>more comfortable
lol, lmao even

>>28576923
Why the fuck would you expect your parents to buy you a car? They should get a fucking job and buy their own. I had to. Kids who don't earn their shit never turn out well.

>>28576941
The actual physical space is not more comfortable, but the fact that you can just hop in, and do whatever, read, listen to music, catch up on some light work for some time before getting off a your destination instead of dealing with the nightmare that can be the road, that is far more comfortable than driving

>>28576954
I don't have meth/fent heads threatening me with machetes in my car... I don't have piles of human shit in my car...

>>28576948
If you don't have an extra 1-3 family cars that your kids can borrow until they get their own then you didn't make it and are probably a shit father in other respects too

>>28576963
That sounds like a very Midwest problem

>>28576971
Yeah pay them allowance too right? Yeah make them even lazier. Great parenting.

>>28576973
Nah people are more respectable in flyover shitholes. Those issues plague every major city. Public transit has always attracted the parasites of society.

>>28576948
it used to be the norm that teens would get the handmedown family car when they got their license. back when Dad would buy a new car every 3-4 years. Dad would buy a new car (Car A) and hand the car he was currently driving (Car B) down to mom. then 3 years later he'd buy another new car (Car C), hand Car A down to Mom, and Mom would hand Car B down to the firstborn child.
The only time a kid would buy his own car is if he either hated the car Mom drove and wanted his own, or if his parents were so poor they couldn't afford to hand down the family grocery getter.

>>28576977
Those flyover shitholes have that most crackheads compared to the rest of the normal population

>>28576977
My kids all made 6 figs in their first jobs out of college. How successful are yours?

>>28576948
Because there's large portions of the US where not having a car means that it's impossible for you to do anything.
Want a job? gotta drive there
School? gotta drive there
Any activity whatsoever? gotta drive, don't you fucking date hang out in the sidewalk by your house because someone will call the police on you
And these same places where everything is scattered in an unreasonably big area also have 0 functional public transit, like other anons said, most teens usually get hand me down, but you can't get a cat without already owning a car, because getting a job without a car is impossible

>>28576984
fuck off to Chicongo or Jew York if it bothers you so much. America isn't poor, complaining about the cost of car ownership is like complaining about the cost of maintaining indoor plumbing.

>>28576978
Sure that's a thing but that doesn't mean it's wise. Kids should have to work for a vehicle. It is a privilege's and not a right after all.

>>28576980
A good parent would steer their kids toward a good career path. Going to college is definitely not that lol. Have fun having them move back in when their jobs are outsourced.

>>28576984
The entire population doesn't live in a suburb that's a 50 mile drive to go get groceries. A bus/bike/your feet will get you to school or a job in 99% of North America.

>>28576504 (OP)
>>28576521
>>28576592
>>28576830
Agree with points raised.

Technically, less people driving would actually improve the "hobby" of automotive, because you have less Normies and mouth breathers involved.

Similar to how when first mass production cars came out up until about the 70s, when car owners were white, middle class and up, 100+ iq, it came with a comprehensive service manual and decent tools, because the owners were likely to actually read the manual and follow the guide

Gatekeping works, guys. Demographics is destiny.
I feel so bad for the future generations growing up raised by single mums in multi cultural dystopian apartment blocks into debt slavery and DEI ESG economy

>>28576954
You must live in a low diversity area. People avoid PT due to the lower class and browns that are literally touching you

>>28576504 (OP)
>NO LOWBALLERS I KNOW WHAT I GOT
>why are kids these days no longer interested in driving? we used to go to the middle of nowhere and do all sorts of dumb shit :(((((

>>28576996
>busrider
I don't respect the opinions of penniless crack addicts

>>28576996
car ownership is protected by the 2nd amendment, it is a god given right.

>>28576504 (OP)
Cars cost a lot of money and no one has money anymore other than fags and hags both of witch don't like cars. We now have cameras everywhere along with police helicopters in every town and again people are too broke for tickets.

>>28576504 (OP)
My family abhors the idea of hand-me-downs (you're supposed to grind for your things) meaning I was only able to get my first car now, at 28. I'm not mad or anything but I feel like I could've used this money to buy a house or something. Gonna commute more comfortably now regardless.

>>28576504 (OP)
If I had the choice between an SUV or an electric SUV I'd be riding the bus too.

>>28576913
Holy hell, that's just depressing. If a kid brought a parent to an interview I'd have them blacklisted at all our stores.

>>28576980
I graduated college 18 years ago and make $20/hr (30 hours per week, on average).

>>28576504 (OP)
>Parents want to know why
The answer is pretty obvious. The parents are fucking useless and don't push their kids.

>>28577136
I was making more in high school lol. I make more than that now and I got paid to go to school. Why people still fall for the college meme is beyond me.

>>28577145
When I was in high school minimum wage was $5.00

>>28577145
I made more in elementary school lol. I make more than that now and I get paid to not work. Why do people still fall for the work meme is beyond me.

>>28577145
>stupid people
the earlier you get someone into crippling debt, the earlier you can profit off of their existence
>smart people
grants/academic scholarships make it so that they/their parents don't even have to take out a loan most of the time and it multiplies their starting salaries by about 1.5x
>really smart people (me)
"Hi I went to Princeton/MIT/Harvard/Stanford/Yale"
"Cool you're hired, here's a $150k base pay role with 4 hours of real work per week, also in a few years you'll get promoted to a $300k role"

>>28576913
that study includes being driven to, or having a parent in the vehicle they drove to the interview location in.
"lies, damn lies, and statistics"

zoomers don't fuck they just watch each other on tiktok so there's zero reason to leave the house

>>28577239
I want to drive to zoomer girls' houses, pick them up, and have sex with them at my house :(

Kids do everything on their phone. They don't have to move anymore.

Just call an uber if they do have to go somewhere.

>>28577239
The zoomer girl I work with has had over 15 boyfriends and lived with/slept with god knows how many of them.

This board is now full of normies talking about money, race, families, resale values, and "generation drama." This thread is full of faceberg tier opinions.
/o/ used to be about doing illegal shit with cheap cars.
It's not just one generation, e-drama has led everyone to drive boring cuckovers and trucks because they're scared some rando will call them "gay" or whatever if they drive anything that stands out. Grow some fucking balls people.

>>28577272
Meanwhile half this board seethes that I own a Porsche 911

>>28577274
I've noticed. I like it. Everyone likes Porsche. Just stop responding to that one guy.
It started with people who have nothing to contribute so they "troll" and ragebait. Enough ppl feed the trolls so car guys left and normies wanted in on the shitflinging. Now we are full of bookface-tier /pol/ normies and people who just come here to call others names.
Shit-flinging and trolling are part of 4chan, but it shouldn't be the whole board - just an occasional treat.

>>28577272
Car racing, building, collecting, etc. are some of the most expensive hobbies out there. In a relatively unmoderated space like this, it's inevitable for there to be a few flexing richfags, a small number of genuine enthusiasts, some normalfags who don't get the scene, and a fuckton of sour grapes poorfags/trolls/retards. Unfortunately the barriers to entry seem to just get worse over time so this board can do nothing but suffer or slow to a crawl.

>>28577106
>our stores

You don't get to shit on people if you work in retail.

>>28577141
yeah i really wish my parents would have made me go outside more instead of just letting my rot on my computer from like age 10 onwards

>>28577272
If these are what "normies" are nowadays, I'm fine being weird or whatever lol
Feels like most people are larping as old rich racists (that will never permit themselves a cool car though)

>>28576948
yea why don't these kids flip burgers over the summer like I did back in the day to buy a car and pay for my education? are they just lazy?

>>28577349
I got my degree from a private uni for "free" because my parents were in the military. GI Bill, suckas. Hooray free market! And b/c y'all voted for drumpf I can neet out the rest of my life despite being educated.
I got a job the week I turned 16 though, bought a car by 17, and low-wage jobs like that are easier to get now than ever. I get what you're implying with your irony, some wages haven't increased as much as inflation...
...but there is some truth to "young'ns are lazy" because retail / food service are begging for workers and pay $15/hr now where I got $7.25 for it less than 20 years ago - that's only $11.50 in today's money. And due to Obabocare you can stay on your parents' insurance til 26. Those jobs pay better now, yet kids still complain about wages and refuse to work.

>>28576504 (OP)
>little hobby
Don't fall for it's tricks anons.

>>28577359
$15/hr is not in every state by a long shot.

>>28576504 (OP)
In germany it costs way too much for young people to get one. If the parents arent paying for it you gonna be saving up for a long time. Like 2,5 to 3,5k eurobucks.

>>28577380
$15 isn't the minimum, sure, but it's what kids are being paid to stock shelves now even in my state w/ $7.25 min. When I was in HS I was getting paid $11.50 in 2025 money and I bought a [clapped-out, but functional] car in HS.
Entry level jobs were not what got hit in the last 2 decades - they pay noticeably and significantly more than they used to after inflation and I'm not even that old.

>>28577349
You forgot cutting grass on the side during the week and buying a house.

>>28577390
You forget getting a girl pregnant, now you need a 'proper' job to really step it up cause a car, house and paid of education isn't enough. You get this job by walking into a building and giving a firm handshake. Pregnant girl now moves in with you and soon you are married. You continue at the proper job earning a good salary while she stays at home doing the cleaning and cooking. The kid is born, things continue as per normal with her now looking after the kid too. Every year you go on one, maybe two family vacations, maybe one year you even go to Hawaii. Life is good. You might even try for a 2nd or 3rd child.

Why don't kids these days just do this? it's so simple

>>28577390
You forget getting a girl pregnant, now you need a 'proper' job to really step it up cause a car, house and paid off education isn't enough. You get this job by walking into a building and giving a firm handshake. Pregnant girl now moves in with you and soon you are married. You continue at the proper job earning a good salary while she stays at home doing the cleaning and cooking. The kid is born, things continue as per normal with her now looking after the kid too. Every year you go on one, maybe two family vacations, maybe one year you even go to Hawaii. Life is good. You might even try for a 2nd or 3rd child.

Why don't kids these days just do this? it's so simple

>>28577388
>more than they used to after inflation
No, you're just believing the lies on inflation being far more mild than it is. From a US perspective:
In 1964 the USD was pegged to gold at $35/oz. Federal minimum wage was $1.25. Today gold is around $3300/oz.
If wages kept up with actual inflation, not the billshit CPI etc. which the ministry of truth spits out, then the minimum wage would be well over $100/hour. A millionaire today is as wealthy as someone with a bit over $10k to their name in 1964.
When they put us on fiat currency they immediately started to siphon our wealth. They still haven't stopped.

>>28576504 (OP)
yay, I get to now have to pay 100% attention to everything I do and what everyone else is doing or I risk dying, killing someone, or getting a multi paycheck fine. my parents generation saw drinking and driving as a sport, not saying I want to do that, but thats how lenient they were back then. now, gg, there is nothing fun to do on a public road that's worth the massive fuck off fine risk, anything offroad I don't need a licensee for, and if we are talking about racing, thats a multi thousand dollar per session expense...

driving now is point a to point b, every vehicle up to around the 50,000-60,000 looks ugly a fuck or just blends in with everything else. passed that point you are in the 'if you can't buy it twice you cant afford it' type of car.

I honestly cant blame kids for not wanting to drive, driving to work, and having to actively weight the quick release of a head on with a semi or going straight and maybe in 10 years everything will pay off for you.

>>28577272
It's not necessarily social media, it's the nanny state tyranny policing everything (not allowing harmless donut in abandoned or industrial areas at midnight); inflation killing buying power; and mass immigration filling countries to the brim, making property expensive, roads full, there are no empty spaces

>>28577413
You said it. Currency is no longer gold backed, and the government keeps printing it to give to their jew friends, which is the cause of inflation.
If the government is printing money, why are are we paying taxes?

>>28577413
I get it, man. Capitalism works on a first come first serve basis.The older generation has assets they can use as investments, medical insurance from their jobs, and still get paid more.
But I'm talking about 20 years ago. I was making $11.50 in today's money stocking shelves at 16 and saved up to buy and insure a car and learned to wrench on it. I was making 12/hr in a factory at 18 in uni. Then we had the '08 market crash, the whole facility shut down in '09.
Compared to that, kids today are generally making more for those same jobs, like $14 for a high schooler stocking shelves. They make more than I did for those jobs and they can hold off on paying medical insurance 'til 26. Gas is about the same price inflation adjusted.
What I'm saying is, I don't feel that bad for zoomers when it comes to jobs.

>>28577176
shhhh youre ruining our smugness

>why aren't zoomers eating out?
>why aren't zoomers buying video games?
>why aren't zoomers buying cars?
Gee, I wonder why the generation with the least purchasing power and facing the worst housing market AND job market in recent history is cutting down on non-critical expenditures. It's a mystery, really.

>>28576504 (OP)
>Its really over for our little hobby, isn't.
basically yes. cars today SUCK BALLS. they haven't made a car worth owning in 20 years and they will get increasingly rarer as time goes on. today's jellybean brutalism EV smartphone slop will not inspire future generations to get into cars.

I agree that it's over for cars. No wonder I see more and more cool motorcycles with each passing year while all the cars on the road are overwhelmingly just cuckover shitboxes.

>>28577410
>Pregnant girl now moves in with you and soon you are married.
What a slut. Everyone knows she cannot live together with a man until the wedding day when he carries her over the threshold of their new home.

>>28576801
>Europeans don't drive cars
Netherlands is not the whole of Europe buddy

>>28576504 (OP)
I'm honestly surprised that the government, in its zealous pursuit of protecting us from ourselves, hasn't banned driving already.

>>28577743
>in its zealous pursuit of protecting us from ourselves,

>>28577745
from the government bureaucrats' point of view, giving them less power or removing them from office is not in your best interests

>>28577752
They feed you poison and make you too poor to live and have children they are not protecting you dummy

>>28576913
what’s weird about having a parent speak to a hiring manager on your behalf? it’s normal to use connections to get a job. say a dad tries to line up an interview for his son at the garage he works at. is this considered strange in our modern world?

>>28577757
Read my post again. Do you think I was defending politicians?

>>28577759
>in its zealous pursuit of protecting us from ourselves,
>from the government bureaucrats' point of view...or removing them from office is not in your best interests

Boomers needed a car as early as possible because the still lived in a high trust society where it made sense to go to public places and be social. They could fill up a car with gas for a few dollars, drive down to the soda shop and spend the afternoon dancing, then go to a drive-in movie for 50 cents, and fuck in the back of their land barge.

For Zoomers, there's basically no reason to drive anywhere. They're addicted to screens and can't be bothered to socialize in person. Even if they did go somewhere, the cost of gas is more than whatever money they have (and the ownership, insurance, and maintenance of a car are absolute prohibitive). And for all the expense they are rewarded with a society full of "modern architecture" that is soulless and demoralizing, and a high probability of being culturally enriched by a violent foreigner.

>>28576913
These parents should just put their kids back in diapers and keep them as little babies until they decide to move out.

I live in the burbs and 2 of the neighbors with high school students bought them cars for their senior year. The nearest bus stop is a 40 minute walk and it's past the high school.

>>28577858
I thought buying your kid a car on their 16th birthday was a thing only rich parents did in the 80s.

>>28577866
In 1990, the average cars owned per household was 1.83. In 2022, the average cars owned per household is 1.83 (source: FHA).
According to the US Census, the rural/urban split went from 78% in 1990 to 80% in 2020.
So yes, statistically only rich parents bought their kids cars in high school, but most families still had 1-2 cars that the kids could use even when the dad was at work. The same roughly holds true in 2025.

>>28577866
Maybe they're rich Im not sure what they really do. My left neighbor bought 2 of their teenagers cars. Used model S and new Xc60. House across from me bought daughter a used genesis g80.

>>28577888
Even buying one car, assuming it's 30k, is considered rich to me. Most Americans don't have that kind of money just lying around and are able to spend on the drop of a hat. For me that's about a year's pay.

>>28577359
>retail/food services are begging for workers
No they aren't, they keep ghosting me

>and pay $15/hr now
Nigga where

Zoomgroid here. My dad bought me a car to replace the one that he took from me to give to my sisters. That one was a rebuilt title honda, he bought me a clapped out mustang, he paid for it because it was within a 4k budget. I have no friends so I only use it to drive to school, work, the gas station and home. Got my license at 18 years old. Im going to school and got a bunch of scholarships and fafsa but it didn't cover all of it, im 2 years in and have 6k in debt. I goon to femboys. This summer I worked a job as a garbage man with a bunch of niggers that i hated to save up, pay off a loan and fix my car. Managed to save 2.7k, paid off a 2k loan and fixed a coolant leak. Kinda considering blowing my brains out because jeets/ai took/are taking all of the jobs, im high key incompetent, have no friends and will probably have to be a slave when I graduate. Good day

zoom zooms are priced out of everything.
running shitboxes are 5k, insurance is 500 a month for high risk zoomers. It's cheaper to use an uber and even then, where are they going to drive? all the malls are dying, McDonalds is $15 for slop, everything is expensive. the only thing for them to do is drive to work so they can pay for their car and be perpetually poor.

>>28576504 (OP)
Its because they don't socialize irl so there's no motivation.

>>28578004
You maybe can get a job at LensCrafters. Depending on your state, you don't have to have an optician license. There's a bunch of kids working at the one near me. Pays >$20 if you can get in.

>>28577349
Im only 27 and I still bought my first car myself

>>28577899
They go into debt to buy it

>>28577745
be glad you're not in bo gland or shitposterland

>>28578750
>bo gland
bongland*

>>28578757
Don't tell them about the bo gland.

>>28576684
you get married?

>>28576598
If you unironically think anything about that looks exciting, kill yourself now.

>>28578869
wait till you hear of the zogland.

>>28578004
Unironically get into plumbing or electrician work
This shit will make you rich, especially in a couple of years

>>28576938
>>school is extended daycare into their 20s, doesn't teach kids anything about actually being a functional member of society
wastes their time and makes them a good mindless drone

>>28576504 (OP)
Robo self driving rides are just getting started.

>>28576598
That's a brand new car that costs $30k. That's half a down payment for a house, neither of which young people can pay.

>>28576633
>Gixxer 1000
>not a sport bike
What the fuck are you talking about?

I have 110K euro rupees saved and even I don't feel like I can afford a car. Or at the very least, it is too expensive to maintain.
I don't know how people afford all the fancy cars I see around. Or maybe they can't afford it and just take out big loans.

>>28579075
That's one cheap ass house. Where I live houses cost at least 500k.

>>28579347
10%-20% down payment and finance the rest is the norm here.

>>28577136
did you get your degree in something retarded, or are you yourself just retarded? my daughter makes more than that waitressing part time and she's 17.

>>28577410
>falling for all the anti-natalism memes
you realize getting a girl pregnant is cheap right? babies don't eat much? you can get a house in most areas that aren't a coastal shithole for $100k?
>inb4 noooo but i need to enhance my funkopop and vintage video game collections instead of passing on my genetic heritage and building a family

>>28580917
Bio degree, work in a medical office. I don't doubt girls earn bank waitressing. A classmate was getting $100 in tips alone per night at a Hometown Buffet, and all she had to do was bring out drinks.

why would a zoomer even care to have a car? where are they going to drive?
roads are congested, pothole ridden hell holes with senile boomers, middle aged white women on their phones and feral negroes larping as squeeze benz
there is nothing to even check out even if you get past that, modern cities are soullessly built and designed, every store/spot is some chain franchise garbage, literally anything you’d want to do costs exorbitant amounts of money
and who would you go out with anyway? zoomers never had third places, they might maybe have some friends they made in school but that is about it. there are no clubs, youth organizations or even any good work office culture for them to meet people to make driving out a worthwhile activity
of course this is also not touching upon how expensive modern cars are, and how unbelievably numbing they are to drive
it is unironically better for your wallet, health and wellbeing to just go on your phone or computer and essentially live some sort of virtual life at this point
and I say this as someone that loves going outside, driving and essentially living a pre-smartphone lifestyle. it’s hard out there, man

>>28576504 (OP)
My mom was (is) a cunt and wouldn’t let me get it on time.

Bunch of other adults supported her, and normalized trapping your kid at home like a prisoner, saying “well, I mean, you have the rest of your life to drive.”

The more these vampiric, headcrab, control-freak women get to run around unchecked, the worse it’s going to be.


Ride dirt bikes and quads with your kids. Take your child to the DMV the day they’re old enough and get them their learner’s permit. Change the culture from the ground up. Fuck these stupid, retarded women that make up the establishment.

>>28579347
Do you know what a down payment is, anon?

>>28581216
No point.
Cars will all be self driving soon.
Plus, the whole driving environment has changed forever.
Everything is EVs with gps controlled speed limiters.
People will still be able to go to race tracks and use race cars, i guess, but kids dont care abouth tgat and haven't for generations.

>>28581296
two more weeks

>>28581319
Wake up lad, the post is true.
Kids just don't care about cars anymore and haven't for a long time.
The car enthusiast scene is all boomers, that's why new cars keep boomer brand names like Mustangs, 911's etc etc

>>28581379
two more weeks
wake up sheeple

>>28581382
Thanks for the (you)'s i guess, RIP on peace, our little hobby

>>28576504 (OP)
I only got my licence at 16 because I needed an ID.

>>28576504 (OP)
Older Zoomer here, I got my license ASAP since I could and wanted to drive to HS. Drove my dad's car when he didn't have to use it. It was pretty nice, I could wake up late, drive to school and arrive right before the bell, and then drop my gf off to her place and bang her before heading home. However, my sister (who's a few years younger than me) & her bf (similar age) are basically incapable of driving, they're too "anxious" (inexperienced and coddled) to get past that initial hump of being scared when you drive and they have no desire to go anywhere it seems. Hopefully it means less shitters on the roads.

>>28576521
Got mine at 28, I even owned a 1500 silverado before getting it. I couldn't drive it on base without a permit and my command was gay and wouldn't teach me.

>>28581379
>The car enthusiast scene is all boomers
Because cars before the 2000s all looked distinct and cool. Kids growing up now all see the same basic bland shape across all makers so of course they have no interest in cars.

>>28582185
>I could wake up late, drive to school and arrive right before the bell, and then drop my gf off to her place and bang her before heading home.
Living the life

>>28577154
Federal minimum went over $5 in 1997. Gold was under $400/oz. With gold around $3400 today, that wage is the equivalent of somewhere north of $40/hr today. Basically no one is earning minimum wage, but most 'minimum wage type jobs' pay ~$15-$20/hr. Could you have afforded a car as soon as you did making $2.xx?

>>28576592
This. The less of them out there, the better

this is how private vehicle ownership is made illegal btw

instead of talking shit you should encourage zoomers to drive

>>28582210
I didn't know how good I had it back then.

>>28582337
And now you are gay

>>28576504 (OP)
I'm 26 and just got my license but after doing a lot of research owning a car just seems like a fucking nightmare. The only cars that seem trustworthy are like from the 90s and I can't find one of those that isn't ruined

>>28577106
>>28576913
To be fair its not the kid asking the parent to come.

>>28583458
Dive in. Don't commit all you have because you'll fcuk up the first time. New bike fags ask what bike and the answer is always boring shite untill you work out what you don't like about it.
Skinny chick or BBW, there's only one way to find out.

>>28583497
The correct option is always BBW without stretch marks (legendary pull) because you can fuck her skinny.

>>28583497
I dunno. It just doesn't seem worth it. And everytime I look at a car i ask myself
>where do I need to go
And the answer is nowhere.
Spending thousands of dollars on beat up junk and having to spend thousands more replacing basically everything that isn't the frame rail or a window just doesn't make logical sense.
And I don't trust myself. I've never met anyone who can even drive stick much less work on a car. Emotions don't matter when it comes to money stuff

>>28583506
You sound typical for a zoomer (neurotic). If you're that afraid of upcoming maintenace, budget for a pre-purchase inspection from an independent mechanic. They typically run <$150. I did this and was told everything that was wrong or would need maintenance within the next year. I took that information to the dealer who owned the car and negotiated free maintenance and money off on the car. You need to realize that the price they're asking is a best case scenario, they're always willing to budge somehow, someway. You might negotiate free maintenance for a year/12,000 miles. You might negotiate free tint. You might negotiate free tires. It's all up to you at the end of the day, the worst they can say is no.

>>28583520
Its just not worth it for me. I can't navigate that kind of social thing anyway

>>28576504 (OP)
no. the world still needs everything from bus drivers, delivery guys, tradies and community hired engineeers in rural shitholes. cant do any of that without a license.
its just the urbanite loosers who delay it and somethimes skip it all together.

>>28583523
It is worth it, I'm telling you it just requires setting an appointment somewhere and negotiating a little. The alternative is a very expensive nucar.

>>28583534
Actually the alternative is no car which is what I'm doing. Like I said. I've got no place to be. Nobody gives a fuck about me anyway. Nobody needs me. I can easily do my job with no car. And since that's the only thing there is nowadays that means I can live my life without one.

Man new cars suck. I'm not sure what marketing retard is telling companies that my generation loves tech in cars but they either are making shit up or totally misinterpreting their data.

>>28583520
>>28583534
Greasy salesman hands typed these posts.

>>28583540
>I've got no place to be. Nobody gives a fuck about me anyway. Nobody needs me
This is all temporary. I don't know where you live, but sometimes a drive out to a lake or something in the middle of nowhere to eat a sandwich and enjoy an afternoon can really help you clear your head.

>>28583540
Cars are gud without one your world gets smaller and smaller to the point where going to town needs planning.
I found myself in that hole once.

>>28583544
I've never sold anyone anything. I'm just a humble blue collar worker.

>>28583546
I've heard of bongs living like this, and truthfully it sounds miserable. You're likely rail thin from living like this but you're essentially trapped. How is living without a car in Europe much better than serfdom?

>>28583592
Stuff is much closer in Europe and public transit isn't shit. Basically every neighborhood has a pub where everyone can go socialize.

>>28583548
back to subway eh poorschejeet?

>>28583609
I get that, but what about visiting an idyllic village that might require you to travel by rental car/bus/cab after traveling by train to the nearest large city? This was a conundrum I encountered in Japan. Visting the Japanese alps efficiently mandated you go by car. Is it not like that with the Scottish highlands or Italian alps?

>>28583619
I'm drunk as fuck and moving. We are not the same settis.

every kid i know who is old enough has a license

>>28583653
pedovibes

>>28583659
sorry you dont have a family or friends anon

>>28583643
moving back to india i hope

>>28583663
God I wish I used to live in India. Can you say no to a butt THIS GOOD?

Level with me here. You own a Dodge. You're basically a nigger. Is there nothing about this caramel colored ass that tickles your pickle?

I MEAN 855-COME-ON-NOW

>>28583728
>>28583746
she's a bit old for someone of your proclivities don't you think

>>28583760
I just love beautiful females, you and every other failed normalfag American are obsessed with age.

>>28583638
You realize you do that because you're a tourist right? How often do you drive out to a random rural town back home for no reason? You're lying to yourself.
It's just not an issue.
Obviously anybody with outdoorsy hobbies will have some vehicle to get there too. Its not illegal to drive in these places

>>28583592
not brit so.dont blame be but i been to london and some other brit citys; go
you cant really drive there its so fuckin crammed and full everywhere, its really comfy to to mind the gap and take the tube somewhere.
usa and we in norway as well have this fixation that going somewhere = buying lumber and paint. well some just like going to the store, buy a shirt and then mind the gap home after a few too many beers at the pub.

>>28583825
Yeah I imagine there's a certain joy in the spring and summer in Norway to just driving out of your way to relax.

>>28583799
I literally just did that last weekend. Saw some sights, messed with some cattle near the road, tried some hole in the wall restaurant that had a pretty good reuben, and pulled against a boomer and his wife (and won).
You should go out and explore your local region, anon. It's good for you.

>>28583883
Oh enough dude you get my point. I explore fine.
Fuckin iron headed dullard

>>28583886
Poont is, your hobby is tourism, not our little hobby.
Its fine.

>>28576598
Im not going to spend 20k on a piece of shit hyundai EVER

>>28584841
I mean let's be honest, you have never even had 20k in the first place.

>>28576598
>exciting
is the word you missed, that shitbox is a cuck chariot

>>28576913
>parents demand that they are included in everything for children's upbringing
>get surprised when children literally can't do anything on their own

>>28576504 (OP)
I can drive when Im dead.

>>28584904
Lmao classic poorfag cope.
What career have you chosen, to have ended up so poor?

>>28576504 (OP)
Is getting your license at 16 and hauling your friends around in your very own shitbox not a rite of passage anymore? Is it because it doesn't involve staring at your cell phone while lying in bed?

>>28585480
Everyone in gen Z is broke nigga fr fr. Not as fun rolling around town with gas at $3+ dollars vs the $1.25 per gallon you paid to spend $35 per person at the movies vs the $11 you paid. Laying in bed doom scrolling is the most cost effective thing you could do.

>>28577430
>The buying power of the dollar is the same as it was in 2005
>Therefore, I will not try to pity the younger generations

total /n/igger death

>>28586290
Not taking a motorcycle or pedal bike or Ebike on the streets ever. Other people are too retarded and dangerous. Mountain bikes, dirtbikes, and quads, ill stay on the dirt.

>>28576913

Whole generation got fucking spawnkilled by society.

>>28576504 (OP)
19 year old co-worker lives an hour away and refuses to get a license to drive to work. Just insists she "doesn't need to" because her boyfriend drives her back and forth every day (and everywhere else). Dude must be getting some mad puss to be worth all those miles on his car.

>>28585480
Because shitboxes are floating around 5k everywhere on average.

>>28587644
>she "doesn't need to" because her boyfriend drives her back and forth every day
least entitled genz girl

>Entire generation with no future that can't afford healthcare, a home or basic fucking needs is having to put off learning to drive and getting a car

Many such cases.

>>28576504 (OP)
Less normies on the road.

>>28578950
Die, boomer shill.

Most zoomers can't even figure out how to feed themselves. Do you really expect them to learn to drive?

https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/lifestyle/gen-z-is-a-failure-at-cooking-even-whipping-up-a-simple-egg-is-too-stressful-they-admit/

>>28588188
>can't afford healthcare, a home or basic fucking needs
But that's wrong, they all just want to make six figures doing art for 20 hours a week and collecting neet-bux instead of learning a real skill or working for the DoD's murder machine

>>28588450

6 figures is chicken shit money in any large blue Democrat liberal city where Gen-Z has to go to work

I have a real skill that has been in demand for hundreds of years and I'm still making 1990s wages and struggling to pay my bills, the system is fucked dude.

>>28588450
The hell are you talking about? Were probably the most realistic generation in decades in terms of what's a reasonable career plan.
Fucking arts and humanities programs are dying nation wide. I never knew a single person who thought they could do it as a career. Even people who just wanted to study art talked about leveraging the skills into blue collar jobs or working at museums. Why do people constantly bring up zoomers and then talk about millennial or gen X or alpha traits?

I did a science degree and only make $20 part time in a doctor's reception area. The problem is each year millions of new grads also flood the market with their science degrees and dilute the pool

>>28588714
What gen alpha traits? Oldest gen alpha are 14 years old

>>28589516
>Hey everyone, do a STEM degree if tou want to make millions!
>sorry dude, everyone did a STEM degree so we don't need you anymore, plus we'd rather give the work to an Indian or AI

>>28589576
>just get ANY degree lmao
how about no

>>28589516
The problem is you didn't go into medicine. I'm in anesthesiology and make mid 6 figures. Paid off student loans years ago. I buy whatever I want and still save 40% of my income.

>mfw zoomer working on getting a drivers license
All I care for getting a fun shitbox hatchback for a reasonable price so I guess my mind is already set pretty realistically. I also have a more immediate need because i got frens who get shitfaced and need someone to drive them home, I get pretty anxious when they try to walk home around here with the amount of crime happening in this part of town at the moment

>>28589909
Thats like sayong you are a zoomer thats learing computers and your ultimate desire is to get a pentium 4 with 2gb of RAM to use daily.

>>28589935
Pentium 4s don't look as fun

>>28589935
>pentium 4
>2gb of ram
Fake ass unc detected. No one was using more than 512mb back then.

>>28590565
2*512 were common...
Guess what 4*512 is?

>>28590569
No one was using 2gb of ram in 2000-2003 duder. I was building my first pc by 2003.

>>28590571
My first PC was in 2005. AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and ati 9800 pro. Don't remember the ram but googling the motherboard max ram was 3gb back then. I'm sure people had 2gb.

>>28590606
You're not remembering how quickly tech progressed back then. 1gb was common by 2004. 2gb was common by 2006.

>>28590606
>>28590629
32 bit operating systems didn't really like more than 3gb of memory anyway

>>28590647
Like cars, better technology came out, superceding old technology.
Now we have the tesla, which is the M4 by Mac

>>28590647
3.5gb I think it was

>>28580923
>babies don't eat much
Are you retarded or a bad faith actor? There are far more expenses than food when raising a child, $20,000 in a year would be on the low end.

>>28577624
This image reminds me of an insane man that placed a Ducati Panigale 1199 engine into a Honda Grom chassis.

>>28585480
>>28585493
Essentially this. The cost of living has increased so much while wages have stagnated that having a life outside of survival is suboptimal in most places in the world.

there are dangerous levels of subhuman brownoids in my area
such is the poverty that even the whites are incapable of obtaining critical driving skills

I will get a driving license the moment that congress mandates that citizens must provide ID to be allowed to vote (see: never fucking ever)

>>28590571

In 2003 I had an Athlon XP with 3gb DDR400, 2x 1gb in dual channel and a 1gb in single channel, ASUS A7N8X-E with NForce2 chipset.

Not all of us were poorfags, I was doing AutoCAD 2002 on a student license and had a 3DLabs Wildcat dual GPU setup, shit was fucking glorious.

>>28591230
Sadly, I was only 11 in 2003 and thought PC gaming was lame. I was also too young to work. If only I knew how bad things were going to get.

>>28591230
Has nothing to do with poorfaggotry. That much ram was overkill for 99.9% of people

>>28576626
Bus may be cheaper but in no way is it comfortable.

>>28576504 (OP)
>teens don't want to own cheap unreliable unrepairable shitboxes, but can't afford anything decent
Tbh, the price of new cars these days is insane. To boot, manufacturers are enshittifying their cars, make it cheaper and load it with unnecessary creature comfort bullshit that you can't opt out of just to drive up the price... on top of that, the cars are harder to repair without specialized tools or software specific to that manufacturer, modifying is harder than its ever been, and in most places, too many regulations as to what you can actually do with your car.

Pair this with a bunch of dumb ass drunk stance bros being the only living community left, the hobby died a slow, embarrassing death.

>>28591230
>NForce2
Ahahahahaha stupid nvidia

>>28591488
no teenager should have a new car, I think a third of my drivers ed class crashed their cars in the first month after getting our licenses. I'd already crashed a neighbor's car so I didn't get in any wrecks until I was 18 and overly confident, think I had 3 accidents that year. You can get a running shitbox for $500 right now, and double that gets you a mostly reliable shitbox. That's what teenagers should be driving.

>>28591509
I have 2 neighbors that bought their teenagers Volvo xc60, model s, Genesis g80. None have crashed their cars and the Volvo is 2 years old by now. You're all dumb

>>28591509
I daily drove the family's passenger van the moment I turned 16, and didn't get a car of my own until I graduated college. Some close calls were had, but zero accidents.
My first personal car was a V8 Camaro that I spun out in the first week of ownership, and thrashed every other time I drove it, but also never crashed.
If your car's been wrecked without getting a hefty insurance payout from the other driver then you suffer from crippling skill issue

>>28591008
>anti-natalist
>no goyim, don't have children, think of how expensive it would be
>accuses others of being a bad actor
lmao
$20k a year is insane and shows you're either deluded or a shill. we raised 3 kids on cloth diapers, each kid cost probably in the low hundreds of dollars a year at most in the early childhood stage, my car was more expensive.

>>28591652
I have 2 children and they're not inexpensive. Diapers are 15-30c each which adds up over the years.
They're 2 and 4 now and eat a lot of fruit which isn't cheap. Having a girl come to our house to teach them how to swim over the summer is like 1k. Dance class around 1k a year. It's probably costing me low-mid 4 figures, but not 20k, and you get 2k tax credit anyway. True about cars though. Combined MSRP of my 3 cars is 275k kek. Children are way cheaper than cars.

>>28591677
that's all fine and good, but disposable diapers, personal swimming lessons, and dance classes are all luxuries. if you can afford them, great, but your grandparents grew up with none of those things. children are very very cheap to raise without those things.

>>28591555
People usually get a new car for them and leave the kids with their old car, or if that's new, they buy a like 3k old shitbox because a lot of kids have this tendency of thinking they know how to drive better than the road rules say, so they tend to obliterate their cars because they're going 150km/h on a 90km/h twisty road.