Thread 28581268

I hope you guys are ready for Infiniti/Nissan to rectify the only thing keeping their slept on sedan from attaining Godhood.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a65862693/infiniti-q50-return-manual-transmission-rear-wheel-drive-report/

>>28581268 (OP)
Needs to drop the turbochargers, become a performance hybrid with a larger displacement naturally aspirated 6 cylinder and offer dual clutch and manual tranny options.

There, a car that has the potential to shit on the S5 and M340i all day.

>>28581281
>how to make a 5000lbs sedan on a chassis meant for 3900lbs and push the price out of range of it's target market 101

>>28581286
Yeah that tracks, which is why the RAV4 Hybrid starts at 3,700lbs and the Civic Hybrid at 3,200lbs. Nothing says lightweight like twin turbocharging. I just provided a solution to achieve perfect weight balance and possibly shed a couple pounds and you, unemployed luddite benchracer with 0 grasp of materials science or auto manufacturing, shit all over it.

>>28581268 (OP)
My only suggestion is give it an 8 cylinder option, say make a V6 NA, twin turbo and V8.

>>28581307
The successor to the GS/GSF is also a damn good idea. I think many people crave an affordable, NA option. The EPA was fucking up NA as a possibility and forcing manufacturers to slap turbos on everything to meet arbitrary emissions and fuel efficiency targets.

>>28581307
the v8 has been offered in the past but never sold well but I agree with this >>28581312 post. people have been craving a simple, well designed car without a bunch of EPA gadgets for a long time. just read any comment section on any announcement of revived namesake cars like prelude and such. If optioned correctly, they could help save the market and their brand. I think they should have NA v6 (no hybrid) with auto or manual option, a middle of the road option with turbo v6 and auto/manual, and a higher tier option for those that want the technology and all the extra stuff. I think that Nissan is so hard up, they should consider this an opportunity to bring the Skyline name to the USA as a sister car to the Q and they can option it like the do the Nissan Skyline v37 chassis in Japan. They sell fairly well over there like that and in australia.

>>28581290
>base RAV4 - 3,370 lbs
>Hybrid - 3,700 lbs
>perfect weight balance
>adding 300+ lbs to the weight of the car
Pick one.

>>28581334
You're a child that doesn't understand the subject matter. Where do you think an electric motor and its battery pack go in the RAV4 Hybrid?

Final gen of the G37:

>Curbweight3,497lb (1,586kg) to 3,704lb (1,680kg)

>>28581281
>>28581290
SHUT THE FUCK UP BRAND

>>28581416
Up your ass homosex queer.

>>28581268 (OP)
So it will be the sedan Z, as it has been since 2003. Nothing new, except it will have a manual option again.

Rejoice, low credit score demographic

>>28581281
>Hybrid
>X5 4800lbs
>X5 hybrid 5600lbs
Yeah no

>>28581268 (OP)
Broke Niggsan
Lmao

>>28581268 (OP)
If the manual is available on the regular trims and not just the $70k+ performance model I might actually buy one

>>28581438
Which brand? I spoke about 3 different car makers brah.
>>28581522
Please don't apply BMW pigfat to this thread about small, Japanese nymphs. Are those BMW hybrids PHEV? That's a battery that's at least 10 kwh vs a typical hybrid's 2 kwh battery pack.

>>28581469
Nice talk tardo. You don't even grasp weight distribution LAWL

>>28581611
No one wants manual in poorfag cars anymore, they only sell in sports cars now

>>28581649
>small, Japanese nymphs
>when the z, and by extension g, were known for being pigfat

>>28581710
>2,500-3,300lbs
>pigfat
They're Japanese obese at best. Which is like a girl being a size 8.

>>28581281
>become a performance hybrid
Shut the fuck up. Why is reddit so adamant performance hybrids are a good idea?

>>28581268 (OP)
Nissan is so fucked. Their hail marys are a performance large SUV, and now a random manual luxury car? Who is the target audience for these cars? Its not their current market segment of 400 FICO score base model Altima on 90 month loan buyers. And it isn't people cross shopping an M5 with an Infiniti anything.

>>28581716
>reddit out of nowhere
Mindbroken by a den of balding cuckolds. I've been on 4chan longer than you've been alive.

>>28581715
Try 3400 for a base 370Z. And yes, it is pigfat for a 2 seater sports car. Base C7 Vette is 3350 with 2 more cylinders and over 100 hp more.

>>28581718
Its only fags with bears as personalities think a "performance hybrid" is a feasible solution.
>oh yes I'd like to have a hybrid so when i'm not driving fast I can pretend the 28mpg I'm getting is good!
Its really stupid and nobody wants that shit. I see it repeatedly in comments sections on car website articles, and its regularly posted on /o/ as if its a good automotive idea. Its moronic and has zero purpose or benefit.

>>28581281
>become a performance hybrid
They sorta did this already but it was too compromised for performance and the Steer by wire absolutely numbed the experience too
>>28581290
>Nothing says lightweight like twin turbocharging
Q50 hybrid vs Q50 Red Sport is like 200-400 lb difference depending on the model year and RWD vs AWD.

>>28581837
>Q50 hybrid vs Q50 Red Sport is like 200-400 lb difference
Let me clarify too that the Red Sport with VR30 is lighter

>>28581764
Everything after the 280z is a fake Fairlady imo
>>28581773
>Its only fags with bears as personalities
What in the projecting faggot fuck are you trying to say? Speak American, you dirty Sanchez-having illegal immigrant. A performance hybrid is never about improving fuel economy. It's in the goddamn name, you illiterate brown clown.
>>28581837
Nissan has proven they can do a proper hybrid. They build the most efficient one in the world. The real question is can they make a PERFORMANCE hybrid that's quick and fun to drive?

>>28581842
>euro
>pretending hybrid systems add anything to performance
I'm sorry, your gayness is terminal. you have aids.

>>28581718
the z has been obese for the past 40 years. z31s were already pushing over 3000lbs in the fucking 80s in an era where you still had some sub 2000lb cars.

>>28581716
>it isn't people cross shopping an M5 with an Infiniti anything
Probably competing with the Integra type S and capitalizing on the hole with G70, TLX, and IS 500 will leave after this year. Honestly, if this does get made, it'll be more of a PR stunt so people don't think Infiniti is just an old mom SUV brand (which it is right now)
>now a random manual luxury car?
All having a manual option does for them is being mentioned by automotive news outlet as a big deal so it gives them "legitimatecy" as a sports car. It'll be in those yearly "Cars that you can buy in a manual transmission" articles

>>28581843
Huh? That's a car I rented in Japan. A Nissan Note E-Power.

>>28581281
>hybrid
a condom could have prevented this post.

>>28581851
Bro you're already malding right here, no need to sockpuppet any more.
>>28581843
>>28581773

>>28581850
>A Nissan Note E-Power.
Woah holy shit, does that have the record for the fastest shitbox around the burgerkingring? Is that hybrid system making that irrelevant shitbox speed so fast cops don't even bother chasing?

>>28581842
>They build the most efficient one in the world. The real question is can they make a PERFORMANCE hybrid that's quick and fun to drive?
I guess we'll see if X-Trail Nismo is any good but it bases its drivetrain on the Ariya Nismo so I guess it'd be similar in driving dynamics. I always wished we get more random Nismo in the states. I don't care if it dilutes the branding, I think it's neat. Though, I do want them to put in actual upgrades, but they don't have to go ham for them for me to think they're neat like the Juke Nismo RS and its slight hp bump and minor suspension tweaks

>>28581853
>Woah holy shit, does that have the record for the fastest shitbox around the burgerkingring
Bros legs hurt from moving goalposts.
>Is that hybrid system making that irrelevant shitbox speed so fast cops don't even bother chasing?
Are you implying Nissan lacks the technology? In one paragraph or less, explain why Nissan can't build a RWD hybrid with a NA 3.7L V6, weighing no more than the current pig fattest ever Z car with both a manual and quick shifting auto option?

I don't give a fuck about efficiency, you stupid faggot nigger. I care about instantaneous torque without DISGUSTING muffled turbo noises. It's possible to achieve both with a performance hybrid, but you're an emotional bitch that isn't ready for this conversation.

>>28581716
>Who is the target audience for these cars? Its not their current market segment of 400 FICO score base model Altima on 90 month loan buyers. And it isn't people cross shopping an M5 with an Infiniti anything.
If it's what I think it is, which is the 400 hp VR30 from Red Sport and Z, but with RWD and manual, than it'll likely be positioned against the M340i

>>28581859
I'm cynical as fuck and just see this as Nissan aping BMW who are slapping M badges on everything to cash in. Nissan needs a winner, and the bs we're brainstorming in this thread isn't what the public writ large give a fuck about. I want a performance hybrid sedan that doesn't have a disgusting CVT (fuck you Toyota) but my wishlist is brown manual wagon-tier.

>>28581268 (OP)
good, I'll need a 50 year old shitbox in like 2070 or something

t. 40 year old shitbox owner

>>28582018
Based shitbox enjoyer. But good luck with a 50 year old Nissan. Based on my family's experience with a 7 year old Altima... Good luck.

>>28582023
>But good luck with a 50 year old Nissan
please don't say this. My current shitbox project is an '85 Mercury and I will one day get a Z31 300zx which I guess will be almost 50 years old by the time I get one

>>28581268 (OP)
they will continue to be the most stolen car for slide show use, the cost of insurance on a 350z/370z/g35/g37 is much higher than other cars for this reason.