Thread 28581582

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Almost binned it

He made two fucking webms and barely got fucking sideways. What a fucking retard.

>>28581595
nobody cares about interpretative dancing with cars

>lmu
wake me up when it has daytona and road america

>>28581528
Currently I have only tried to support 640x400 SVGA though I intend to support VGA as well as make the cinema mode be able to stretch across an ultra wide monitor. VGA mode also looks funny right now because it's just drawing the screen buffer to a 640x400 SDL texture no matter what and stretching that to the window.

Fatalities are fixed btw, along with a bunch of other stuff.

>>28581600
>interpretative
NGMI

>>28581589
I attack the fuck out of those curbs in the LMU Lexus
But that's not LMU so I dunno

>>28580740
Asking again for all those playing the new TXR update
Am I the only guy not seeing the whole range of tuning upgrades anymore? It happens on a fresh save too which is gonna be shit for dealing with late game bosses

>>28581685
I personally don't like how 'sloppy' TXR feels with a wheel
It reminds me of an old arcade cabinet game (which may have been the intent) but it is not confidence inspiring

>>28581725
That's just genki's signature dogshit physics for you. It doesn't feel all that great on a controller either. It has been this way since forever

>>28581745
It's not the physics. It's how little resistance there is from the wheel. I get it on some level- road cars usually don't have heavy steering, but as an owner of a 90's shitbox I cannot believe an FD (lauded the world over for its handling) would have steering that felt so numb.

>>28581590
>both wheels off the track
>>28581685
>third person
fuck nubs

bonus 5 chads
we are SO back

This is fine

>ATTENTION GAMERS
Challywally on the burgerking spotted
>ATTENTION GAMERS

>>28581725
>use anything but a G29
>pedal inputs are cut every time you press a button on your wheel or shift gears with an H-shifter
fucking genki if you're not going to even implement FFB right can you at least not do this shit?

>>28581582 (OP)
hard to believe they were able to achieve such realism despite the technical limitations

>>28581865
>two of the finest asses in the universe in one picture
verification indeed not god damned required

>>28581878
>miat coming close to something like the 360
its nice but not s tier

>>28581865
hilarious. the Chally is comically huge in this shot

just ordered the TH8A shifter for my t300

>>28581885
theyre xboxheug irl

>>28581879
if it was a factory top i would have to disagree, i personally don't like what they did there but i know what the car under it looks like and that is s-tier

Yeah, its Avantime

>>28581893
Yeah but you would think it’s a bit smaller since it’s in the background. Looks funny

>>28581920
excuse you sir, it's pronounced
「Renault AVANTIME '02」

>>28581930
why did you type it in female french flight attendant accent?

Godsdamn the P1 is a beast.
I have dialed in a PP800 tune and it’s unbelievably kino

Where does the fun start in BeamNG?

>>28582338
rallying

>>28581601
IMSA license entirely*
I want to make NART 499 to race at the Petit LM

Can't wait to see how they fuck this one up, atleast it won't built from the ground up but if I had to guess

>Shitty uninspired tracks
>dirt racing that will be 80% street, 20% dirt
>way too powerful cars, way too fast
>cringe VO
>no progression

>>28581878
lol
lmao even

Play Kaido Battle
Do it now

>>28582465
I've played all three
1 sucked
2 was just a beta run of 3
3 is objectively a 5/10 game hard carried by Initial D fanboyism

>>28582467
2 has more fun physics than 3

>>28582431
It will be less cringe with Japanese VO

>>28582483
and is missing about 30% of the content. 3 is the most complete of the trilogy, and the translation also doesn't read like ESL/MTL.

>>28582485
>Implying there will be Japanese VO and not just Japanese characters being played by Californians like in Crew Motorfest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rASaJW8FVbM

>>28582489
Alright, what the fuck, they couldn't even be bothered to pronounce the japanese words right

>>28582491
Ubisoft seem to genuinely hate Japan for some reason.

>>28582489
But we're talking about Forza, and FH5 had full dubbing in multiple languages.

>>28582489
>Wangan Spirit
>it's a R34 and not a 240/260z
>it's also a normal race and not on the big freeway

>>28582431
So exactly like every previous Horizon since 3? Imagine the Japanese expressways but with the 6-car-wide lanes that Forza does now. Who needs a Hot Wheels expansion when you're already driving RC cars?

>>28582489
>AYYY BRUH we herrrd you like JAY DEE EMM... heh, you finna be WILDIN if you think you be rolling wit us gayjin... ya ever herrrd of the TOOJ? heh, this aint no drifting race WYTBOI... see you on da streetz of Tonkyo Japon bruh......

>>28582489
>>28582498
>9:08 they unironically call the Wangan the Wang Gang

>>28582555
>YEE BRUH this ho we do it in da streets of KNEE-HON ehe SKRRT SKRRT
>Ayo wats good my TOE-MOE-DATSHEE, check out my ride, isn't it it SUE-GOY? That's we say in here in TOE-KEY-OH

>>28582338
For me? When I found Hillclimb 1 in Italy.

>>28582576
>>28582584
kek
the wang gang

>>28582615
Great name for a Gr 5 racing team

>>28582584
Forza dialogue is all overenthusiastic angloids or 'natives' that slip in random common-use words.
God, I want to go back to FH1 where the characters that weren't rivals were laid-back Americans. FH3 didn't hit me with the true-blue Aussie experience though; nobody called me a cunt.

>>28582746
>angloids
>I want to go back to FH1 where the characters that weren't rivals were laid-back Americans
uhhh chudcel? majority of White Americans are Anglos.......

>>28582782
I was trying to avoid using a particular word.
May God forgive me for typing it: The characters are insufferable, perfidious Bongs.

>>28581582 (OP)
Fixed GET DOWN. Whiplash just assumes RAND_MAX is 0x7FFF like it is in windows and presumably MSDOS and subtracts from rand() with that expectation for the engine jiggle effect

>>28581826
Fixed this too. Nothing was broken, just needed a function I hadn't decompiled yet.

Many awesome cars to choose from but the 911 feels the most unique, bros.
Once you fall in love with RR it’s difficult to go back

>>28582793
the worst one from memory was the sheboon with the British accent from forza horizon 4

>>28581582 (OP)
>RRRRRRRRRRRRIDGE!!!!!! RACER!!

>>28582976
FUCK YEAH RIDGE RACER

>>28582976
>UVs for wheel meshes not perfectly centered
SOVL

>>28582859
please add a cheat that increases rand_max on purpose that shit is too funny

>>28583172
>>28583231
https://youtu.be/bjgvxHEnM4c
some based anime pfp uploaded the full soundtrack 12 years ago

>>28583312
the cd was redbook so if you own a copy you also own the soundtrack

DO I BUY PC3 BEFORE IT GETS DELISTED TODAY

>>28583349
just download it for free

>>28583349
I hate having this sort of dilemmas. May the Leviathan devour modern vidya industry.

>>28583563
It's not a new problem for racing games. It's highly unusual for them to be available forever because of licensing.

>>28583272
Kek maybe so

>>28583621
>It's highly unusual
only because aaa slop has fully licensed indian-modelled disproportionate cars that don't look anything like the real thing and 5 different languages of whatever brainmelting pop punk ditty is popular with highschool girls at the time

it is in fact possible to make a game that has none of these problems.

>>28583639
>it is in fact possible to make a game that has none of these problems.
And if you do that it has to be a gimmicky arcade/combat racer because nobody is going to buy a simcade or sim that doesn't have licensed content.

>>28583357
>>28583621
You wouldn't download a car...

>>28583647
>https://www.lfs.net/

>>28583658
https://www.lfs.net/cars/BF1

iRacing on PS5 when?
cba booting up my PC

I love watching DNFs post race

>>28583658
Where's the fucking Scirocco?

>>28583669
yes retard because everyone flocks to lfs to drive a 20 year old dallara f3 with a bmw roundel pasted onto it and not the XRT
it also has one licensed track which is a historic circuit about to be demolished anyway
you're argument is falling apart at the seams

>>28583693
im still mad about this

>>28583658
Still worth it in AD 2000 + 25?

>>28583717
if you like pure ludokino soul with dangerously high simulation value made by an intensely dedicated autist who doesn't even like cars, yes

if you are a grafiks babby who needs his ray traced interior ballsack shadows and n-dimension calabi-yau intake manifold hypershaders then no

>>28583738
>dedicated autist who doesn't even like cars
So like H3VR dev disliking guns, kek.
Do people actually buy licenses for lfs or is everyone driving mod cars?

>>28583772
i bought s3 so i could join the piranmoto destruction derby server on fridays

Classic car community action on the burgerking today

>>28583803
Alpine spotted

>>28583803
>>28583806

>>28583803
>CRX 1.6 VTEC
had one, was my second car, loved it. I binned it at 90mph on a back road.
It was the closest thing I've felt to grief when they towed it off the scrapyard. Heart broken.
:(
Life is hard.

>>28583803
I can smell the oil and exhaust fumes from here

>>28583820
delicious

>>28583831
what is that? a lotus? mg?
still prefer the honda

>>28583833
Alfa Spider.

>>28583717
Yes it's good, so good it's amazing to drive with even a keyboard unironically

Are inverted pedals worth it? Can I jerry rig a reliable support with wood?

>>28584082
that depends on what you do.
do you simrace casually, i.e. a few hours every week? then sure, it's slightly more immersive.
more than that? hell no. don't be like me, i spent months using inverted pedals to try and imitate a road car and used it for racing, fucked up my ankle joint pretty good. there's a reason people always say you should be using your entire leg to work the pedals, and when you're doing that, it makes no sense to invert the pedals. once you're at the point where the pedals are at a 90 degree angle from the floor you're wasting tons of time and money trying to have them inverted instead.

>>28584082
If you like open wheel, floor mounted is how they are irl anyway.

>>28584299
I play almost every day in short casual sessions. Its just a plain SRP-Lite pedal set with an aliexpress brake mod set at the lightest configuration. I think I would enjoy it but its such a pain to set up.

>>28584324
I'm mostly intro rally and touge. I thought about mounting the entire SRP-lite base at the wall but then I wouldn't be able to get near enough with my wheel support. I don't think its worth it buying an expensive adapter cage at this point (need triple screen setup and maybe a wheel base upgrade first).

>>28581582 (OP)
Gran Turismo players look like that?!

>>28584345
Such an untalnted slav whore.

Does sim racing have high end equipment or is it all relatively affordable? Kind of new to it all.

>>28584398
all you need is a t300, a decent desk, and a comfy office chair

>>28584398
Don't listen to him, its outdated and overpriced belt driven tech. Get something like a Moza R5 bundle, a direct drive wheel.

>>28584415
>overpriced aliexpress horseshit with compatibility issues and cringe uwp app
no thanks

t300 unironically works on windows 98 and also works in nearly every game made since then and has the power and smoothness for ac drifting
there's nothing wrong with belt driven, it's the t300's brushless motor that makes the difference. the smoothness and reaction time of that over something like a g920 or t150 cannot be beat. plus, a smaller motor can react faster. not saying it does, just that in theory i'm willing to bet the t300 is better at reproducing fine detail than the moza because it's rotating assembly actually weighs less. stronger is not always better, especially if you don't know what you're doing.

it's better to buy a tm or logitech as your first wheel because they will give you the least amount of hassle. logitech has a great rma policy and tm makes very durable, nerf-gun-like products for the most part. they both have very widely compatible driver packages that will very rarely give you issues with any game you might play
the fancier wheels out there are more for the next step up, the kind of stuff moza makes is for people who want to climb iracing ladders or hotlap in the latest and most popular sims, it doesn't support any older games or non-simulation titles like need for speed.

if you just want to play exclusively new gt3s only no items spa-francorchamps esports kinda stuff get a moza
if you think you might want to play literally anything else ever buy a tm or logitech, preferably a tm t300

>>28583815
F
just win the lottery bro

>>28583833
Alfa Spider that won a 96h Marathon Nordschleife event.

>>28584458
CR-Z is a modern take on it, and nobody wants them so you can find them for cheap.

>>28584465
>nobody wants them
there is a reason for that anon (they are sovlless)

>>28584374
She's Illyrian

>>28584469
it's because they're hybrids and boy racers were absolutely livid it wasn't slammed with a 6" fartcan from the factory (completely ignoring the fact the CRX itself was originally intended to be a hypermiler eco variant of the Civic rather than a sporty variant).

>>28584465
cr-z is a hybrid with like 90 horsepower. The design is OK I guess. But has none of the fun factor

>>28584499
it has 130 horsepower, in a car that weighs about 2600lb and has a 6 speed manual. there are turbo kits out there that bump them north of 200. the CRX wasn't terribly powerful either, the draw was the chassis. same with the CRZ.

>>28584496
>it's because they're hybrid
say no more
hybrids are gay

>>28584527
>econobox
:(
>econobox, 1989
:0

>>28584533
yes, and the used car market reflects that

>>28584539
>it's popular so it's good
lol

>>28584548
>its popular because its SOVL
yes, you are mad because you drive a hybrid shitbox no one wants
lol

>>28584555
>appeal to popularity
>obsessed MAX POWER Y2K tuning
certified retard moment, enjoy spending 30k on an overrated Honda

>>28584559
I'm just enjoying posting SOVL
continue crying r*dditor

>>28584560
cringe

>>28584563
here you go

s e e t h e

>>28584564
good platform for mods, and cheap too because dimwits only buy what people tell them to buy

zoomies are truly a degenerated race

>>28584571
>zoomers
zoomers have to buy shit like the CRZ

>>28584577
no. Millennials own the CRXs because they bought them when they were cheap, and don't care about them. zoomers are the negrophiles nostalgic for the F&F/NFSUG tuning culture they were too young to experience firsthand, and fantasise about coomllecting old Hondas and Skylines in the same way boomers fantasise about classic muscle cars.

>>28584580
>no
yes... people born after 1995 didn't get access to cheap 90's jdm
also its Generation Y not """millennials""" stop using (((social media))) speak

>>28584582
>people born after 95 didn't get cheap Jap compacts
which is why they overrate them. for the record, calling a US market CRX "JDM" is a zoomer earmark.

'millennial' predates socmed, zoomeroo.

can you fwd gayboys go the fuck back to honda general and stop shitting up my thread

>>28584587
>US market CRX
??? wheres that???
its gen Y not muwweniawlz normalfag

>>28584587
>'millennial' predates socmed
no it doesn't lol

>>28584580
>F&F/NFSUG
>associating an entire era with muh mediaslop
uhhh sounds like you're a zoomer but ok

>>28584588
/ovg/ is real cars first then video games secondary chudcel thats why its not a /v/ thread

>>28584589
>where US market car >>28584539 >>28584458
here, I know that zoomer ESL mulatto IQ makes it hard to keep track of past events, but the fact this is an imageboard should make of easy for you to go back and look to refresh your memory.

'millennial' was first used in a book written in 1987, it predates 'Gen Y' by five years. Nobody uses Gen Y seriously, you're exposing your dipshit contrarianism when you try and use that as an argument.

>>28584592
see above, zoomer.
https://books.google.com/books?id=To_Eu9HCNqIC
here's a different book using the term, written in 2000.

>>28584595
it's the reason you know and like it. You weren't there, the import scene was extremely niche and unknown prior to 2001, F&F skyrocketed its popularity.

>>28584597
you're not arguing about real cars you're talking about 4 pot fwd trash thoughbeit

>>28584598
>extremely niche and unknown
lol they sold magazines in every single shop that sold magazines
Gen Y is the correct term, just because it was used once in a book doesnt mean shit normalgroid crzcuck

>>28584600
fair enough
>>28584598
you fool that red one is RHD and in Aus

>>28584601
>magazine existed so, popular
post your copies of the magazine and your subscriptions, pre-2001. I'll wait.

>s-so what if I was wrong on when it was created? It's still not correct because I SAID SO!!!
what a weird hill to die on. nobody says Gen Y. not even the sociologist who created it does anymore; you made me sit down and look up the history of it and even he said it was a stopgap term because he didn't know 'millennial' existed and he conceded that it was superior to Gen Y.

>>28584597
>/ovg/ is real cars first then video games secondary
Faggots in this general don't own "real" cars, they've spent all their cash on some shitty $3,000 sim rig made from $30 of extruded aluminium.

>>28584608
>>magazine existed so, popular
yes
>>28584608
>nobody says Gen Y.
ohhhhhhhh noooooooooo look who's appealing to majority now lolololol faggot

>>28584602
>civic driver can't outrun a stock hyundai elantra, understeers off the track and takes out a car from a completely different class it isn't even racing against

bravo

>>28584607
regardless, none of the CRXs posted were Japanese market. all but two of them were Euro market cars. JDM means Japanese Domestic Market, cars sold in Japan. a CRX sold originally in Britain is a EUDM car, one sold in California is USDM.

>>28584609
wrong

>>28584602
Ford Fusion is FWD though

>>28584612
pretty sure some of those were gray imports, and you know what I meant by jdm you're just being tedious because youre mad

>>28584610
>stop using the parameters of my argument!
lol. you said social media invented 'millennial' and you were wrong. cope and deflect some more.

>doesn't know what 'circulation' means
post your copies of Super Street from the 90s, and the subscription card they came with.

>>28584611
>takes out a car from a completely different class it isn't even racing against
that's a classic

>>28584615
yes I do know what you mean. you're using it to mean 'Tuner', which marks you out as a zoomer. nobody over the age of 30 calls all Japanese cars JDM. That's my point.

>>28584617
>you said social media invented 'millennial'
no i didnt, i implied thats just where the term is pushed
>it was popular enough to sell copies at any shop but it was le niche and underground brooooo
cope

>>28584619
no i also meant actual jdm imports obviously, do you not know what a gray import is?

you're not even fucking talking about cars you're just seething about some gay semantic minutiae
kill your fucking yourselves you worthless faggots

they missed out on cheap 90's jdms AND domestic variants*
is that better r*dditard?
>>28584625
kek

>>28584620
sweatie..
>>28584582
>>28584592
muscle car mags had a larger reader share. you think tuned up Beetles were mainstream and normal? This is more proof of your zoomerism, even the best selling magazines had a reader share of maybe 2% of the population. actual pop culture and society at large were broadly unaware of it until movies and video games made it mainstream.

>>28584621
you're being disingenuous. You were talking about Japanese cars in general, not ones specifically imported from Japan. and the Max Power tuning scene was absolutely not a Japanese phenomenon, their tuning style was practically the exact opposite. Japanese tuning culture looked like picrel.

>>28584627
you tried to smugly pull rank and exposed yourself as an ignorant dipshit zoomer. that's all there is to it.

>>28584630
they would have cut the magazines from the shelves if it was as unknown and secretive society you're making it out to be.
and no i meant jdm and local domestic 90's jap cars
people imported jdm cars its called a gray import.........

>>28584630
>Max Power tuning scene was absolutely not a Japanese phenomenon, their tuning style was practically the exact opposite. Japanese tuning culture looked like picrel.
too much crossover in the two for your point to make any real sense youre grasping at straws (again)

>>28584631
oh please pull rank on me colonial, you cant even form a coherent point

>>28584633
buddy magazines with a readership of sub 50k would stay on shelves back then, pre-internet era magazines could turn a profit with practically zero subscribers. You don't know what the zine era was like.

>people did
that isn't what you said. 99% of cars people modified was stuff sold domestically. grey market was Holy Grail shit, especially in the US because of the 25 year rule. most people didn't even know what a Skyline was back then.

>>28584638
zoomie mulatto IQ on display again, lol

>>28584637
>posts a British magazine
and your point is..? Japanese people weren't putting spinners and PS2s in Civics. their 'extreme' style was grachan/bosozoku stuff which was a completely different ethos from what was going on in the US and Europe at the time. In fact recently there's been a nostalgia boom in Japan of importing old US tuner stuff to recreate them in Japan, like how they do lowriders and hotrods. Americana obsession.

>>28584643
people like you see a front page show car and just assume there is some big difference between jap/uk/us/nz/aus/ ""tuning style"" for the average person that didn't have money for a showstopper the builds were more or less the same everywhere

>>28584643
>most people didn't even know what a Skyline was back then.
Aus had R31s and an r32 gtr was winning bathurst people definetly knew what a skyline was

>>28584645
you're the one who posted a bunch of show car CRXs from 2003, not me. cover cars are the 'aspirational' stuff. what the 17 year old with his ratted out Corolla aspires his car to look like.

>>28584647
and how many people live in Australia, again? most people don't know what an NSX is despite it being sold domestically.

>>28584650
>you're the one who posted a bunch of show car CRXs from 2003
.....from different parts of the world......proving my point lol
>>28584650
>and how many people live in Australia, again?
this is your cope now?
you're just gonna keep moving goalposts?

anyone with even the slightest interest in cars knew about done up jap imports AND LOCALLY MADE DOMESTIC VEHICLES

>>28584652
two were from the US, the rest were from the UK. all done in a similar style, because the tuning scene in both countries were very similar back then.

>y-you're coping
you're projecting. let's recap the discussion, shall we?
you tried to say the CRZ was lame because it wasn't cool like the CRX, and proceeded to post a bunch of cringe ass modified CRXes from the early 00s as proof.
I called you a zoomer for being nostalgic for that era of tuning, and you got hissy over my use of the word 'millennial', trying to claim only socmed-obsessed zoomers use it.
you got BTFO on the origin of the term, and then tried to desperately argue that "actually I was talking about grey market imports" after I called you out for using another zoomerism in the form of 'JDM'.
And now your argument has devolved to trying to argue that the existence of tuner magazines means normalfags knew about and liked tuned up sport compacts before F&F made the Supra and Skyline a household name.

>>28584657
>the rest were from the UK.
australia retard, most were from australia.
you are coping though, you have a crz and you're coping.

>>28584659
whatever, still not JDM. keep projecting, you were wrong on every single point you tried to make, and kept having to deflect to something else to try and save face.

>>28584661
>still not JDM.
they could have been imports
seethe crz faggot

So
the ELMS is on

>bullshit asshole a hubba jeeba dubba doo
>yeah well a derp a herpa derpa dee
*sounds of two fat retards slapping each other*

>>28584663
>could have been
this is what your argument has been reduced to, zoomerkek

>>28584672
well? hurrr not jdm!!!! how would you know faggot?

wait I just had a realisation
this is probably the ozshitter obsessed with NFSUG2 who constantly tries to argue it's the best racing game ever made
would make perfect sense

>>28584674
who?

>>28584661
>whatever
>having to deflect to something else to try and save face
no self awareness

>>28584689
Australia isn't Japan, genius

>>28584697
and aus isn't the uk? lol moron

>>28584697
and aus isn't the uk lol moron

>>28584709
irrelevant. you called the cars JDM, they ain't.

>>28584714
I actually didn't, I simply stated gen z didn't have access to cheap JDMs.

>>28584720
-ain

>>28584722
random CRXs are not JDM, and the Max Power tuning scene wasn't JDM either. you're using the term as a synonym for 'tuner'. which is a zoomerism. that was the core point of my argument.

>>28584724
>Briackain
sounds french

>>28584728
>random CRXs are not JDM, and the Max Power tuning scene wasn't JDM either.
never said they were
gen z cant afford 90's jdm (gray imports) or 90's jap domestics

>>28584737
for the most part obviously

>>28584737
yes you did. you were talking about CRXs in general, and then called them JDM. you didn't switch gears to "I meant grey market" until I called you out. grey market imports were never cheap. shipping fees alone are several grand.

>>28584743
>yes you did.
no I didn't, I was saying they couldn't afford imports, i just forgot to add "or local jap domestics" and you went into a tard rage thinking that I dont know what jdm stands for.
main point is at least crxs are/were cool, crz is just a nothing car.

>>28584743
>grey market imports were never cheap. shipping fees alone are several grand.
sometimes it worked out significantly cheaper if you were buying from an auction..........

>>28584747
the entire crux of your argument was that "classic Japanese cars in general are too expensive now for zoomers", as exemplified by the posts that started the entire discussion >>28584458
>>28584539
at NO point before I called you a zoomer did you specify grey market imports. your argument only works if you are specifically excluding imports. only talking about imports turns your entire argument into a non-sequitur.

>>28584757
yes and what? I'm talking about domestic and imports
fucking hell you are tedious

>>28584756
no. even if you got the car for free, the shipping and importing fees alone would put the car above a cheap local example. for much of the 90s and early 00s you could get CRXs and Civics and the like for <$1000. I know, a buddy of mine got an EF for like 850 bucks. Grey market stuff was holy grail, always was. It wasn't something a teenager or early 20s guy could "just get" unless he was pretty well off already. 99% of people made do with the domestic variants.

>>28584758
>switches back
>s-stop pushing on me!!!
lol. You used the term wrong because you're a zoomer, just own up to it.

just fuck already

>>28584760
>no. even if you got the car for free, the shipping and importing fees alone would put the car above a cheap local example
this is simply not true for middle-higher end vehicles, you dont know what you're talking about
>y-you used the term wrong!!! lol zoomer!!!
I didn't and if i was gen z that would mean you're getting btfo by a gen z, im GEN Y

anal idol

>>28584764
>higher end vehicles
we're talking about Japanese compacts, not V8 BMWs.

>I didn't
you did. you called all Japanese cars JDM. you were factually incorrect. you are not a millennial*, zoomaloom. cope and seethe.

>>28584768
>>higher end vehicles
oh so you're just gonna ignore the fact i said "middle" as well? very disingenuous.
>>28584768
>you called all Japanese cars JDM
no I didn't you're just being bad faith.

>>28584769
hyphens connect concepts. 'middle-high' means above middle, below high. regardless, irrelevant to the topic.

>no I didn't!!!
yeah, you did >>28584582
the topic was about zoomers not having access to cheap Jap sport compacts. nobody said anything about grey market imports.

an example of a middle tier vehicle would be an s13 or even s14 silvia, you would be able to import one a few thousand cheaper than buying one locally.
>>28584776
you are such a weird gay troll, the saddest thing is you actually put effort into your garbage.

It's a slow Sunday here in /ovg/

>>28584782
not my problem

>>28584779
nobody calls a Silvia 'middle tier', they were worth about as much as Civic. yet more backpedaling.
>stop humiliating me
you can stop replying at any time, zoomie. the beauty of anonymity is you can fade back into the aether just by leaving the thread.

>>28584800
>nobody calls a Silvia 'middle tier'
yes they do, its a great example of a middle tier vehicle
>you can stop replying at any time, zoomie. the beauty of anonymity is you can fade back into the aether just by leaving the thread.
notice how you're not actually saying anything? r*dditor.

>>28584802
name someone besides yourself. they're worth the same amount as a civic back then, they didn't skyrocket in value until the 2010s after they had all been wrecked by wannabe drift bros. the fact you don't know this is more proof you're a zoomer.

>you're not saying anything
I've said everything that needs to be said. I exposed you as a dipshit cringe zoomer, and then let you squirm as you tried to backpedal every claim you made. remember when you said "'millennial' was invented by social media"? I remember.

>>28584806
>they're worth the same amount as a civic back then
yes, civic also middle tier, low end would be a starlet or corrola etc
>I've said everything that needs to be said. I exposed you as a dipshit cringe zoomer, and then let you squirm as you tried to backpedal every claim you made. remember when you said "'millennial' was invented by social media"? I remember.
blah blah bah its gen Y

higher end would be gtr, supra, wrx etc

>>28584810
you could get Civics for pocket change. the Corolla was a direct competitor to the Civic. You're making up arbitrary distinctions that aren't relevant and don't even support your argument, kek
>it's gen Y
only to your contrarian dumb arse.

>>28584811
>literal video game classification for cars
lol this is the level of discussion I am dealing with

>>28584816
remember when you said no one knew what a skyline was in the 90's? I remember.

>>28584818
>>literal video game classification for cars
when in rome..

>>28584819
yeah, nobody did. 5 racing fans in Australia is not a large population of people

>>28584837
>POV: its 1992 and you're LITERALLY ANYONE in the country with a TV

>>28584839
more Americans have seen a Supra in NASCAR than Australians saw the 92 Bathurst 1000. I would still call the Supra an obscure car in the US.

How many Skylines were sold in Australia, again?

>>28584842
>more Americans have seen a Supra in NASCAR than Australians saw the 92 Bathurst 1000.
sad troll
>How many Skylines were sold in Australia, again?
around 300k R31s were built and sold in Aus from '85-'90

>>28584844
not very many, then. and certainly not the GT-Rs everyone knows now.

>>28584374
respect kosovo

>>28584846
>not very many, then.
enough for the average person to know about them
>not the GT-Rs everyone knows now.
goalpost shift cope

>>28584846
>nooo it's not this one specific trim
shut the fuck up retard

>>28584848
I wonder that he butthole tastes like

>>28584854
Write with both hands retard

>>28584609
I like cars

>>28584849
>>28584851
we're talking about tuner cars. the basic bitch family sedans notwithstanding. people know the Civic exists, not many know the Type R does. Some people may have recognised the Skyline as a background traffic car, nobody saw it as a tuner 'god machine'. Christ.

>>28584915
>more coping and goalpost shifting

>>28584918
you tried to claim every CRX was JDM, and that 'millennial' as a term was invented by zoomers on social media. and have spent the last hour trying to bog down in semantics over how popular the R31 Skyline was in Australia to deflect the discussion.

>>28584921
you said a crv was an 11 second car stock and you said lizards can fly and play piano

>>28584925
>noooooo only I'm allowed to come up with bullshit strawmans out of my arse!!!
you said a crz is the most popular jdm car

>>28584929
hmm. >>28584582
>>28584539
>>28584458
you called all CRXs 'JDM', as can be seen in these posts.
surely you can find a single post of me saying what you claimed I did?

>>28584936
you said a crz is faster than a db9 and then you tried to claim that "millennial" was invented in the 1800's, and then you spent the last 4 hours talking about a cock you sucked in the toilets at NASCAR

>>28584937
ah, you're just having a total melty because you got handed a mindbreaking L. understood
>unsolicited homoerotic fantasies
says it all

>>28584944
why did you say that no one knew what a crx was in Japan in the early 00's? they obviously did lol its where it was made. you also tried to claim all Ford Escorts were JDM..they're not even Japanese you retard.

Video on everyone's favorite videogame website, Speedhunters.

https://youtu.be/1qGYr7f7vgI

>>28584944
and it was Toyota that made the Celica you fucking moron
>hurrrr it was Mazda!!!
no it wasn't literaly look it up.

>>28581582 (OP)
Is ovg capable of talking about videogames?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/936720/Wrench/

>tries to claim a crx was only 50hp
>gets proven wrong
>copes
>seethes
>dials 8
retard

>still having a schizophrenic breakdown
wonder how long it'll last

>>28584955
obvsiously when we aren't being intentionally spammed by poopsock-puppeting redditors dumbass

>gets out trolled
>copes with animu posting to try "fit in"
lol
lmao even

>complaining about anime after posting anime first
>"pretending" to be retarded

>immediately stops posting animu because I brought attention to it
lol spineless

>ford escorts are jdm but crxs cant be jdm brooo
absolute smoothbrain

>>28584944
>got handed a mindbreaking L.
an L... no cap fr fr zoomie :-)

>quoted posts where he said what I claimed he did
>proceeds to go thermonuclear and gives up all semblance of good-faith discussion (as if he had any to begin with)

Both of you should reflect on wasting 7 hours of your Sunday on this pointless internet argument

>still having a schizophrenic breakdown
wonder how long it'll last

>>28585028
until his mom can be bothered to stage an intervention I imagine, if she even cares any more.

>quoted posts where he said what I claimed he did
>proceeds to go thermonuclear and gives up all semblance of good-faith discussion (as if he had any to begin with)

>>28585029
Where's his father? A stable household would have avoided this.

>now he's samefagging
holy kek I really did mindbreak him

>>28585034
>where's his father?
went to get milk and ciggies. be back soon.

remember, this multihour meltdown started because I called him a zoomer.

>now he's samefagging
holy kek I really did mindbreak him

>complaining about anime after posting anime first
>"pretending" to be retarded

>>28584858
fucking kek. I don’t even remember posting that.
that’s what happens when you wake up at night and try to post something

>>28582431
It's (basically) official
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/forza/report-forza-horizon-6-may-be-announced-this-year-in-the-same-place-the-game-is-set

worse than /vg/

>>28585219
Cartism trumps game spergery

>>28585215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuJDhFRDx9M

>>28585252
>>28585215
nice
I will make many corner heavy blueprints that will make the super/hypercar fags seethe

>>28585215
Glad Playground isn't retarded enough to pull the trigger before getting Toyota back

>>28585252
the least realistic part of this map is the implication that they would put a dedicated racetrack in it

>>28582338
Its up to you to make your own fun. There are mods for just about everything you can think of.

>>28584609
Its alot cheaper to crash in my aluminum rig than my real car thats for sure

brehs mw2012 is mindbreaking me
why did they think crash cam was a good idea
why did they make handling all fucking weird
so many whys

>>28585252
Somehow whoever made this map forgot the main draw everyone go to is the airport of the previous games maps.

>>28585219
only because get these weird schizos who seem to think this is /pol/ and not /o/

>>28585226
you literally weren't arguing about cars at all you were just crying after throwing tame insults like pathetic reddit babbies while spamming and flooding the thread. you are underage b& who don't have licenses and should not be allowed on this website
unironically kill yourselves as painfully as possible

>>28585631
>you
Nta

>>28581685
When do races start getting this tense? All races I've had has been quite decisive up to now

>>28585647
worthless post
i don't care if you're nta
"ta" will read my post and "n"s like yourself need to shut the fuck up

>>28585651
Calm down lol

28585661

>>28585667
Nta

>>28585648
its much better since the last update
but yeah early game has pushover opponents

Another quality /ovg/ thread

>>28585445
They had several in FH5. That said I don't think PG and Microsoft would be willing to License Fuji Speedway for the game.

>>28585631
>these weird schizos who seem to think this is /pol/ and not /o/
go back to r*ddit, all you do is seethe and lose arguments here anyway

So it's pretty much over at this point right?

>>28586033
I'm genuinely unsure if it's anything other than a name EA passes around at this point
Old Criterion became Ghost Games in ~2012

Reminder that we should be heading towards Ass Evo 1.0 at this point

>>28586033
>A Battlefield Studio
I had to check to see if that is real and it is... how does EA keep consistently fucking up
While checking that out I saw the former Speedhunters guys made a new home in Turnpike so theres atleast thats something

>ford pack for ats has a mustang, crown vic and bronco
>dodge pack has a viper, charger and challenger
>there will also probably be a gm/chevy pack with 1 truck (silverado) and camaro, corvette and a chevelle or something
Really defeats the title of a TRUCK simulator. Instead should've added more work vehicles, like Ranger, Colorado, Dakota, Econoline, Transit, Ram Van.

>>28586545
While I don't genuinely believe that anybody that worked on Burnout or HP2010 still works at Criterion, people are saying that the new Battlefield is good.

>>28584609
>real americam pedophiles.

>>28586693
Played the beta, it's fucking shit. Maps suck, guns feel like shit, cod movement system needs to stay in cod. Appealing to casuals was the worst thing to happen to BF.

>>28581589
>>28581590
Looks slow, leaving a lot of room on that exit. Turn less carry more speed.

>>28583639
You a console gamer or something? Cuz like I get it but nothing lasts forever. Let go of your manchildhood.

>>28586805
Too much kerb made me lose the tail, of course it's slow

Fixed the horribly glitching out wall. Still some other graphical issues but at least it's a lot less horrible to look at now.

>>28584630
Japan was absolutely part of the spocom subculture, not only they made a good chunk of the bodykits and wheels of the era, but the sound system industry was completely dominated by japanese brands, also Art Factory made a ton of vinyl designs that are synonymous with the era.

>>28586859
It was slow on entry. Avoid the sausage and really eat the curb on that right and allow your self to shoot out wide.

>>28586933
Team Destruction, briefly renamed Team Underground, during a promotional shoot for the japanese release of NFS Underground 2, the Celica was owned by an employee of EA Japan

>>28586937
I miss it.

>>28581589
Why do I only see race cars with speedometers in games? Do real ones not have them? Then again, most onboards censor the wheels for some reason so I can't tell if they're actually on or not.

>>28587006
The dash is completely configurable and usually has multiple pages the driver has set up for different things. I configure mine to show the speed on the main page but with modern GPS-enabled lap time deltas seeing speed all the time is a lot less important than it used to be.

>>28587006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_0iCbtBJGw

>>28585560
haneda airport is waaaay to the right of what's in this pic and they'd have to draw the whole wangan and yokohane lines

>>28587048
They're already taking liberties with the size of things, if lake ashi was that big it would be called a sea

Anyone here have experience with modded 360s like RGH and JTAG? A new version of bad update came out and pretty much allows you to successfully soft mod your console. I was wondering if it can be used to get the dlc for the older forza games working that got delisted.

>>28587358
idk how badupdate works but I have an rgh
myrient has the actual dlc files, they should just go in the game folder and work
alternatively if you can launch apps with bad update, xm360 could work

>>28587379
If I unlock the DLC or whatever do I have to use it on an offline account? I never purchased it, I just want to make sure so I can avoid having my main XBL account banned.

>>28587391
I would to be safe
I've never taken my 360 online in the first place though so I can't say for sure

>>28586840
buddy forza hasn't updated their car models since the hugebox
ubisoft is still using assets from driver san francisco in crew motorfest
a 30 year old DOS game made by less than 10 people in 8 months with double digit polygon count car models is a monumentally superior and more complete game than anything released by a AAA studio in the past 25 years

>>28587395
I think if even if you get banned you can change your KV and go on stealth servers but to be on the safe side I think I'll just make a burner account and use that.

Someone make a new thread and make sure to post a ludo McLaren in the OP

>>28587453
nu

>>28587006
When you're going be with the car you do not require a speedo or tach.

>>28586793
And yet you keep playing it after 1942. I'll give you a pass on 3 the destruction was great back then.