Thread 28584529

So I have been watching YouTube cars shorts and old American mechanics (40+) seem to all have one thing in common - they all hate German cars and love Toyotas. For example they said that the B58 engine on 340i BMWs is bad and unreliable even though that world-renowned engineers often rank it as the best car engine currently. Is the hate justified or German cars are way too overhated by these old farts?

>>28584529 (OP)
More soijakparty shitposting

>>28584529 (OP)
bmw has a factory in usa where they take the fine german engineering, defile it by greasy burger stained hands and have it assembled by m*xicans and n*ggers.
then they blame germany for it.

>>28584562
If you buy a German car with a VIN that starts with anything other than W, you have only yourself to blame.

>>28584710
Since when did Germany start with a fucking W? Who thought up this shit?

>>28584712
wehrmacht....

>>28584726
Existed for 10 years, destroyed by the allies and no vehicles had VINs in 1945.

>>28584529 (OP)
>B58 engine
Those aren't good by Toyota standards.

>>28584744
Toyota didn’t even adopt 4 pt suspension on the rear axel of their cars until 2018 and I’m not even sure it’s on the whole line up yet. Please: kys for even comparing

>>28584712
West Germany

>>28584835
No shit I always wondered that too. Isn't italy like 4 or some bullshit though?

Boomers are retarded, anything else?

>>28584710
Even those are terrible unless you would buy a used 7 Series or Porsche Panamera

>>28584529 (OP)
Americans are spoiled by having many big comfy cars around with reasonable displacement engines that last hundreds of thousands of miles with basic maintenance and lots of abuse available cheaply for most of their lives. It's understandable that we kvetch about teeny 2-3 liter engines that can't tow, need meticulous maintenance to still fail shortly out of warranty, and they ask a premium price for.

>>28584934
>teeny 2-3 liter engines that can't tow
Agreed with the rest, but that is just skill issue and/or the driver's physical form putting excess strain on the engine.
People around here tow boats and trailers with 1.4 L engines and worse.

>>28584529 (OP)
Yeah because they're mediocre compared to other things you can get

>>28584934
>2-3 liter
>teeny
If only you knew how bad things really are, anon
>1.2L turbo 3 cylinder
>plastic oil pan
>wet timing belt

>>28584562
A Lego set built by a retard doesn't stop being plastic

>>28584956
>Goes 30 under on the highway

>>28584981
How much power do you think it takes to sustain highway speeds?

>>28584815
BMW engines are unreliable plastic junk.

>>28584529 (OP)
How many planes have been B58 swapped? German reliability is being reliable after being meticulously maintained and having wear parts like crank bearings getting replaced with every oil change. American reliability is being reliable after a life of abuse and neglect.

>>28584986
Towing a 5k lb load at 80mph even on flat ground is going to take a lot more than what a little 2l engine can realistically put out. That's not even considering the high altitude mountain passes we have to tow up and over.

>>28584562
>Mexico has been building German cars for decades
>They work fine
>'Murican still has to blame them for his own problems
Imagine my shock.

>>28584710
Wolfburg

>>28585089
Multiple Chinese factory owners who tried to expand to the US have unironically said that American fingers are too fat for most precision manufacturing and it's impossible to find people who are not high on drugs half the time.
People up here in leafland unironically track ships coming into the port of Vancouver to ensure they get a Tesla made in China and not one made by retarded shartistanis.

>>28584529 (OP)
Shut the fuck up eurpoor

>>28585136
>t. shartmaster

>>28584986
How much power do you think it takes to sustain highway speeds, With a heavy enough load to warrant a trailer, in real road conditions, by an average driver?

>>28585118
China has only ever tried to do manufacturing in Mexico, not the United States.
They complain about Mexicans and you say it's real Americans

>>28585231
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/american_factory
>Americans are donkeys. They love to be touched in the direction their hair grows, otherwise they will kick you. - wise Chinese sage

German cars cost double what Jap cars do, Americans expect them to be at least as reliable. I think they have a point.

>>28585238
Doesn't that describe literally everyone on the planet.
That's just basic business practice described in a callous way
I'm happy the Chinese are finally discovering how business works i guess
>>28584529 (OP)
All German cars are fucked here because some bad people got the rights to build them and then made it illegal to import the actual German made German cars

>>28584923
I'd buy a used Panamera as long as it didn't have air suspension, easy

>>28585238
>Member of (nation) that is enemies of (other nation) has a low opinion of members of (other nation)
Wow, next you'll tell me that Ukrainians think Russians aren't good people

>>28585371
What's wrong boyracer? Afraid you'll actually be comfortable?

>>28584963
Solid little engines actually
>>28585086
Putting car engines into airplanes is typically a bad idea, but the only decent one is a mercedes OM-2 diesel in the Diamon airplanes. LS works, but the argument against it is solid for most airframes. A lycoming is always a solid option. Look at that output side crank bearing size.

>>28584840
Italy is Z

>>28584712
Wewelsburg. Germans bind old warrior spirits to their cars. If the spirit finds you unworthy, your car will then produce very expensive failures until you sell it to someone who will be also judged. This continues until a worthy owner.

>>28584529 (OP)
Better than french cars, we don't even bother with those

>>28585089
mexico also buildt ford escort. it was a popular car in europe and when the local factories couldnt supply enough we imported some from mexico. same everything down to the part numbers so no issues right?
only
>brother in law bought a fixer up car from a certified junkyard with the skill to do such jobs
>basicly two crashed escort cut in half and welded together
>only one half was euro made one mexican
>the mexican rear half rusted like crazy and parts fell off it
>the euro front half was just fine

>>28585610
Maybe it's because a broken air suspension totals the car and it is guaranteed to break at some point

>>28584529 (OP)
Not me. I am a heavy equipment diesel mechanic, car mechanics are weak faggots who think anything other than changing the oil is hard. I drive Ford superduty trucks for towing and BMW cars for around town bullshit.
I fucking love BMW, they are nice to switch to after driving a large pickup all week. It's fun to drive them in the mountains, put them into corners hard and keep accelerating.
I like older bmw cars though, like mid 2000s, haven't really driven the new ones yet.

>>28584529 (OP)
We hate them because they are driven exclusively by old ladies who can't drive and cause wrecks, pajeets/achmeds/other shitskins who can't drive and cause wrecks, or frat boys with daddy's money who can't drive and cause wrecks. Are you starting to understand?

>>28586722
Based