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Anonymous No.28588601 >>28588630 >>28588633 >>28588802 >>28589102 >>28589248 >>28589274 >>28589632 >>28590372 >>28591200 >>28591746 >>28591862
>runs on two 36 volt batteries
Ok wtf, how did it even have the torque to even move two adult men? Is it because it needed only 1/6 of the power with the moon's gravity?
Anonymous No.28588605 >>28590452
is never exist
Anonymous No.28588609 >>28588639 >>28588788 >>28588797 >>28588960 >>28589073
>Went a whopping 22 miles tops
Anonymous No.28588617
>4*0.25 hp electric motors
An horse can move 2 people
Anonymous No.28588630 >>28588748
>>28588601 (OP)
No friction in space
Anonymous No.28588633
>>28588601 (OP)
Voltage isn't a unit of energy, power, or work.
Anonymous No.28588639 >>28589668
>>28588609
>y-yutu!
Anonymous No.28588748
>>28588630
>Air resistance
Anonymous No.28588788 >>28588804
>>28588609
>Went a whopping 22 miles tops
but that's a lot of driving on a soundstage
>no stars
Anonymous No.28588797
>>28588609
>22 mph
Lmao, you wish.
No idea where thise numbers came from but they dont match official records.
Try 11.18mph lunar speed record.
Anonymous No.28588802
>>28588601 (OP)
Actually worked in the building that originally built the Moon Rover.
Pretty cool stuff in there.
They're mostly focused on satellites these days.
Although I did see a super old MiG-21 simulator which was pretty cool
Anonymous No.28588804 >>28588873
>>28588788
stars don't show in day time. There are a lot of better things to spout on this subject but you guys are too stupid to bring them up.
Anonymous No.28588873 >>28588906 >>28590232
>>28588804
Don't interact with the fed psyop. They're stupid on purpose.
Anonymous No.28588906 >>28588957
>>28588873
>They're stupid on purpose.
This. It's not worth arguing about.
Anonymous No.28588957
>>28588906
Just frame it as "denying the moon landings is anti-white" because it's true
Anonymous No.28588960
>>28588609
Reminder that the U.S. holds the speed records on the Moon AND Mars.
Anonymous No.28588989 >>28588993 >>28590596
This runs on a 24v battery, your point?
Anonymous No.28588993 >>28588997
>>28588989
This runs on 6v.
Anonymous No.28588997 >>28589034
>>28588993
Ackshually most of those are 48v, running 8x 6v batteries in series.
Anonymous No.28589034 >>28589062
>>28588997
So it runs on 6V batteries, got it.
Anonymous No.28589062 >>28589071 >>28589079 >>28589250
>>28589034
Let's say you own a V8 engine car. Does it run on eight single cylinder engines, or a V8?
Anonymous No.28589071 >>28589074
>>28589062
it actually runs two I4s
Anonymous No.28589073 >>28589082 >>28589084 >>28589089 >>28589095 >>28589242 >>28589420 >>28591226 >>28591267
>>28588609
you trying to tell me the US supposedly went to the moon THREE times in just two years and we can't do that anymore?
Anonymous No.28589074
>>28589071
Which are made up of four singles.

The only difference between one huge 48v brick of a battery and the 6vx8 series arrangement is the packaging. The actual voltage going to the motor controller is 48v. If they were wired in PARALLEL to stack their capacity, then you could say it runs on 6v.
Anonymous No.28589079
>>28589062
>Does it run on eight single cylinder engines
Yes.
Anonymous No.28589082 >>28589086 >>28589089
>>28589073
People still break down running the Baja 1000 despite everyone knowing how to do it. Once space stopped being a pissing contest/major defense/nuclear war concern the funding/public interest dried up.
Anonymous No.28589084
>>28589073
The Jews won't let us. You see thousands upon thousands of years ago they were tasked with keeping us trapped on earth and they failed when we reached the moon.
Anonymous No.28589086
>>28589082
Public interest just means people pay attention to it. They didn't go to the moon because people wanted them to, they told the people to want them to so they could.
Anonymous No.28589089 >>28589287 >>28589685 >>28589982
>>28589082
>>28589073
The Apollo programs were also staggered construction and training, it wasn't like they just said "hey let's do another one" and quickly threw it together. Lastly, the shuttle program was very effective at delivering payloads to orbit, but it could never really get beyond low-medium earth orbit, which obviously hamstrung lunar exploration, and now we have too many shitty private companies fighting over contracts and making cost-cutting focused designs instead of one agency that hires the best people and designs the best equipment.
Anonymous No.28589095 >>28589100
>>28589073
wtf you talking about? there's been like 10 moon landings in the past two years
Anonymous No.28589100
>>28589095
people, damnit!
Anonymous No.28589102 >>28589863
>>28588601 (OP)
>electric golf kart speeds and sub golf kart range
Why are you impressed?
Anonymous No.28589242
>>28589073
Almost every Apollo mission launched before Nixon ended the gold standard.
Anonymous No.28589248
>>28588601 (OP)
my nigga do you understand gear ratios?
Anonymous No.28589250
>>28589062
runs on a single 12v battery
Anonymous No.28589274 >>28589281 >>28589523
>>28588601 (OP)
I met the dude who designed it, or at least part of it. At the rocket center in Huntsville I was playing with a wooden display model that demonstrated how the rover folded up for storage, and this guy in a lab coat came up behind me and introduced himself. He was very nice and was pleased somebody was interacting with his exhibit. He was apparently the dude who came up with how to fold it up for transport.
Anonymous No.28589281 >>28589288 >>28590174 >>28591186
>>28589274
This has to be a documented phenomenon. These guys engineer for decades, retire, then go track down the museum where their beloved project is stored and are always gassed to talk about it. A guy who worked on the YF-23 is still mad all these decades later that it wasn't chosen.
Anonymous No.28589287
>>28589089
We can't hire the best people, that's sexist and racist and ableist and probably more ists that I'm forgetting
Anonymous No.28589288 >>28591186
>>28589281
I think he was employed there as some kind of semi-retired arrangement. He was willung to talk about the whoke Apollo program, but I am way to awkward to have had a good conversation with him.
Anonymous No.28589420 >>28589526 >>28589541 >>28589602 >>28589607
>>28589073
We could go back if we wanted but what's the point? It's expensive as fuck and what would you even be achieving? The moon doesn't really have a lot going for it and would be pretty hopeless as the next human civilization. Spending billions upon billions to go to the moon just to take some selfies isn't really in the budget even for this clown world. If we were to send people back into real space it would make a lot more sense to keep going to Mars.
Anonymous No.28589523
>>28589274
>I met the dude who designed it,
Sure you did nasa faggot.
Anonymous No.28589526 >>28589547
>>28589420
There actually would be two primary reasons:
1. Assembly of a larger craft
Some gravity/lack of dealing with orbital mechanics would be beneficial. Everything else about assembly on another fucking celestial body, not so much.
2. Helium-3 capture for an actually viable method of nuclear fusion.
Anonymous No.28589541
>>28589420
>what would you even be achieving
First of all, achievement of the sake of itself is good, and second of all, it's an environment with no foreigners, no endangered species, no biosphere, and as long as we don't cover the surface in vantablack or send debris from it crashing back to earth by the gigaton it couldn't possibly affect life back on earth. It's a sandbox of infinite material and low gravity, you can build whatever you want, go wherever you want, and as long as the walls are lined with lead and/or water, and there's a radar for meteoroids, there's no risk of disaster
Anonymous No.28589547 >>28589563
>>28589526
Your logic is reversed.
We need viable fusion in the first place before attempting working reactors in space. The fuel source is irrelevant.
RTGs work and are passive decay because the heat management of a reactor is triple its electric output. Even if newgen fission or working fusion were twice as thermally efficient that's still 2kw of heat dumped for every 1kw electric generated.
2KW heat through solely blackbody radiation needs a retarded amount of heatsink radiator. Compare to a high end PC that can manage it with half a sq meter of rads and 300ml of water via airflow.

Now picture the heatsinking needs of a 100KW electric generator.
Anonymous No.28589563
>>28589547
No no, like we get the helium-3 and bring it back to earth.
Anonymous No.28589602 >>28589605 >>28589627
>>28589420
>what's the point?
Life. Life is the point. Human civilizations spreading further afield, to the planets and beyond, ascending the scales of existence.
Anonymous No.28589605 >>28589610
>>28589602
That's fine but humans will never live on the moon. It just doesn't work like that despite all those sci-fi films. If were going out there to populate the universe then we need some viable planets or moons.
Anonymous No.28589607 >>28589609 >>28589611 >>28590313
>>28589420
>there's no point in having a moon base
>there's no point in launching rockets from a place with 1/6 the gravity
"We" haven't gone back because "we" never went there in the first place
Anonymous No.28589609 >>28589618 >>28589634 >>28589634
>>28589607
Not even the soviets called bullshit on the US landing there. There would have to be a really, really good reason to put that much mass on the moon, you can only bring a little up at a time.
Anonymous No.28589610
>>28589605
sorry anon, your problem like many is you lack the spark to imagine forms of capital that can proliferate in space
gravity wells are prisons that suck the power out of everything, higher level civilizations will deconstruct planets into easily managed asteroid belts for far greater energy efficiency and usable surface area
Anonymous No.28589611
>>28589607
Building a Bucees on the moon would do fuck all for road tripping the universe.
Anonymous No.28589612 >>28590313
>60 years of advancement in everything, from material tech to rocketry
>computers a quadrillion times better
>w-we haven't gone back because t-there's just no point guys
Anyone who doesn't realize the above facts reveals they never went to the moon is incapable of critical thinking
Anonymous No.28589618 >>28589666
>>28589609
>call bullshit on the usa
>usa says they did. The soviets (our enemy) is obviously lying
Ok what now?
Anonymous No.28589625
>here's the usual pattern
>moon landings get brought up
>shills arrive to defend it
>shills gets btfo, moon landings get debunked because its retarded as fuck
>thread gets deleted
Anonymous No.28589627 >>28589646 >>28589895
>>28589602
There is nowhere in the known universe better suited to support life than the planet we are already on.
Anonymous No.28589632 >>28589663 >>28589880
>>28588601 (OP)
They never went to the moon and never will
Anonymous No.28589634 >>28589665
>>28589609
>>28589609
All space agencies are in on it. Its all freemasonic dick sucking
Anonymous No.28589646
>>28589627
and that's great, but we can be more
the spiritual communist that hates his neighbors for doing well also doesn't want them to ever rise above their earthly internment; none can be allowed to escape their torment; only spiteful backbiting and self-destructive breznevian stagnation, forever
Anonymous No.28589663
>>28589632
moon landing deniers are fucking hilarious
>ZOMG DID YOU KNOW THESE PROLIFIC SCI-FI AUTHORS TALKED TO NASA?!?!?!?

yeah no shit retard you can't write sci-fi without knowing the foundations of the technology you're writing about
fucking absolute moron my god
it is easier to go to the moon that it is to park a chevy suburban in tokyo
Anonymous No.28589665 >>28589671
>>28589634
uneducated hylic horseshit
all moon landing deniers are sub-80 iq or schizo drug addicts
Anonymous No.28589666
>>28589618
But they didn't.
Anonymous No.28589668
>>28588639
kek
Anonymous No.28589671 >>28589678
>>28589665
>tell me you took the covidtranny vax without telling me you took the covidtranny vax.

You probably also still believe some arabs captured a plane and flew them in two buildings which then 50 minutes later collapses in freefall speed.

I though this type of retards where not on here but unfortunatly, you take up space
Anonymous No.28589678
>>28589671
>you take up space

oh i thought space didn't exist
make up your mind you retarded fucking methhead
opbital dynamics isn't complicated, it doesn't require fancy computers or height technology, just a lot of thrust pointed the right way
ignorant techophobic uncle ted larpers like you are a waste of all of earth's natural resources simultaneously and you should be ground into paste and used as rocket fuel.
Anonymous No.28589684 >>28589699
>nooo you can't just point a rocket at the sky and do some basic trig and physics differentials and end up on the moon what about the *completely nonsensical religious macguffin* or *unprovable metaphysical horseshit* or even *misrecognized film artifact* ? i am an armchair expert in aeronautics and went to film school once in '75 and could not possibly be wrong nope never
Anonymous No.28589685 >>28589715
>>28589089
>shuttle program was very effective at delivering payloads to orbit
Only in theory anon
Anonymous No.28589699 >>28589701
>>28589684
>it's so easy bro, just basic trig
>we're not doing it today with 60 years of insane progress because t-there's n-no need to bro
I feel sorry for retards like you
Anonymous No.28589701
>>28589699
we literally put nuclear powered robot cars and r/c helicopters on mars less than a decade ago
Anonymous No.28589715 >>28589720 >>28589982
>>28589685
>Only in theory
Not even in theory, if the only purpose is to deliver payloads to orbit.
It's not hard to determine from fundamental principles that rockets inherently become more effective the more of the mass you throw away (preferably violently through the nozzle).
Having a large chunk of the vehicle made from something you intend to bring back makes the rocket much worse at its job.

I suppose they could re-use the engines and some other stuff this way, at least, but the shuttle was so horrendously complicated that I don't think that saved much money, not with the shuttle needing such an extensive overhaul for every mission.
Anonymous No.28589720 >>28589731
>>28589715
I mean in theory it was thought to be cost- and time-effective.
In practice however SST program proved to be almost the complete opposite. I mean reusability kind of loses its point if you have to take everything apart then test then put together and test again and again and you still have catastrophes on live TV.
Anonymous No.28589731
>>28589720
Yup. If the vehicle just needed refueling and payload work before it's on the launch pad again, the inefficiency of all that extra mass might be cancelled out by the savings of being able to re-use the system.
Who cares if it's a bit inefficient as a rocket if it can still deliver the payload and is just wasting some fuel+oxidizer?

I think there also were a few missions that actually used the shuttle to return something from orbit, which was one thing only it could do, e.g. the European "Spacelab" habitable module (that was later developed into several core ISS components).
But with costs that high, it might have been cheaper to just do the job with disposable rockets.
Maybe the whole thing was about jobs on the ground, not in orbit.
Anonymous No.28589863 >>28590239
>>28589102
They're the gayest think you could spend 10k on. Yes, one of these stupid things cost more than my mrs. And all you get to do with it is drive around a neighborhood and pray no one hits you. I don't get it either.
Supra80 No.28589880
>>28589632
>guy who wrote the book
>guy who filmed the movie
>both want a realistic and accurate depiction of space travel
>both visit NASA in 1965 during pre-production
>make the movie
>comes out in 1968
>same time as the moon landings
...bUt MuUn Lnding Am Fakk gUise!
Anonymous No.28589895 >>28590487
>>28589627
*human life
Anonymous No.28589982 >>28590061 >>28590126 >>28590907 >>28591261
>>28589089
>>28589715
The ideal way a space vehicle interacts with the atmosphere is: as little as possible
So the problem with the space shuttle is that the managers were absolute fucking retards who wanted a SPACE vehicle to be like a plane instead of landing like a rocket should (with its rocket) and thus was completely suboptimized for everything with terrible weight and aerodynamics and everything else that had to be dragged in to deal with all the terrible weight and aerodynamics which is a cascading effect that makes everything shittier and everything else that became a problem
Lots of them were ex chair force, of course
Anonymous No.28590061 >>28590098 >>28590116 >>28591254
>>28589982
Arguably it'd be WAY easier to land like a plane on the moon or any barren rock large enough for a flat runway. Think about it. No fighting the air for your vecter and no need to maintain speed to keep that nose up. Just use RCS to kill speed and hold AoA on a very shallow descent. Touch down softly and just coast on light brakes. The only sub optimized thing about it there isn't a fucking runway on the moon yet.
Anonymous No.28590063
op thinks torque comes from voltage
Anonymous No.28590098 >>28590269
>>28590061
vertical takeoff and landing is the most natural way to operate a spacecraft for many reasons, one of the most prosaic being that a usable rocket ship needs control systems that can be used for such purposes anyways
Anonymous No.28590116 >>28590269
>>28590061
>AoA
>shallow descent
It's going to turn steep pretty fast unless that RCS is working overtime.
Anonymous No.28590126 >>28590179
>>28589982
>landing like a rocket
with
>interacts with the atmosphere is: as little as possible
mean you have to spend a lot of fuel ( = mass) braking.
Anonymous No.28590174 >>28591186
>>28589281
>never had a male family member in the trades
Dudes will add like 10 minutes to a trip so they can mention how they did the welding that nobody is ever going to see on XYZ project
Now compare that to dudes who make shit that people see and think is alien technology for 30 years until its declassified, of course they're chomping at the bit to talk about whatever stuff they're allowed to
Anonymous No.28590179 >>28590187
>>28590126
and far less mass getting up in the first place, use some critical thinking anon
Anonymous No.28590187 >>28590202 >>28590542
>>28590179
Idk, even Musk's reusable stages use aero braking for a reason.
Anonymous No.28590202 >>28590303 >>28590542
>>28590187
yes obviously, the grid fins aren't deployed on take off nor are they an integral part of the fuselage, which is optimized to interact with the atmosphere as little as possible, as a space craft should
Anonymous No.28590232
>>28588873
truthnuke
they hire retards or pretend to be retards to muddy the waters on more important things by lumping all those issues together as theories put forth by morons in the minds of normies
Anonymous No.28590239 >>28590537
>>28589863
Where did you get your mrs? Did they have any more of them in stock?
Anonymous No.28590269 >>28590283 >>28590294
>>28590116
No air to stop you, can literally orbit the moon one inch up if it were flat enough. Come in low. Fire bottom RCS for some extra float while you slow down. Legit easy touch down. I'll go do it in KSP after work to prove my concept.
>>28590098
It's only natural because space craft are VTOL craft by necessity. One that is designed to be an SSTO will also be capable of horizontal landings, air or no.
Anonymous No.28590283 >>28590532
>>28590269
>do it in KSP
Might as well go for a vertical suicide burn (just fall directly into the gravity well and wait until the last possible moment to fire the engine at max power so you hit 0 speed at the point where your altitude is 0). Less delta-V wasted fighting gravity.
Anonymous No.28590294 >>28590527
>>28590269
there is literally no good reason to land horizontally
Anonymous No.28590303
>>28590202
>interact with the atmosphere as little as possible
Only on its way up, that's my point.
Anonymous No.28590313
>>28589612
>can't understand cost/risk vs benefit calculations
>says others are incapable of critical thinking
What exactly would be the point of a similar, manned mission today? What would they accomplish that couldn't be done by a modern rover, or wasn't already accomplished during the Apollo program?
>>28589607
>>there's no point in launching rockets from a place with 1/6 the gravity
Holy fuck, you're retarded. You still have to launch from earth to get the shit to the moon in the first place but now you're adding a whole extra step and entire launch cycle into the equation.
Anonymous No.28590372
>>28588601 (OP)
go to school you fucking retard. I'm so fucking mad that the internet became accessible enough for a retard like OP to exist on 4chan.
Anonymous No.28590452
>>28588605
esl browns seething that crackers walked on the moon while they can't build a fucking airplane.
Anonymous No.28590487
>>28589895
>*human life
*all known forms of life
Anonymous No.28590527 >>28590615
>>28590294
>Saves hundreds of deltaV
Nothing personal.
Anonymous No.28590532
>>28590283
That's all fighting gravity though. Gliding in on a shallow trajectory would drop the entire final braking burn altogether.
Anonymous No.28590537
>>28590239
At a buy here pay here with a broken engine that a bunch of niggers kept trying to finance. Bought it outright and slapped a new engine in it. I posted about if I should buy it and kek had spoken. No regrets.
Anonymous No.28590542 >>28590914
>>28590187
>>28590202
Those gay guns are more like stabilizers or fletching on an arrow.
Anonymous No.28590596 >>28591903
>>28588989
I drive one of these and have to go to the warehouse in an hour. FUCK YOU for making me see this while I’m not working.
Anonymous No.28590615 >>28591070
>>28590527
and by saving you mean losing due to retarded design compromises, which is a good reason to use vtol like a smart person instead
Anonymous No.28590907 >>28591217 >>28591261
>>28589982
>So the problem with the space shuttle is that the managers were absolute fucking retards who wanted a SPACE vehicle to be like a plane instead of landing like a rocket should (with its rocket)
NASA scientists weren't retards. If you want to reenter the atmosphere under power, you will need fuel to do it, which means you need to launch with more fuel, which means you need even more fuel to launch or a smaller payload. A glider reentry vehicle is far cheaper and more practical and it worked almost perfectly for decades.
Anonymous No.28590914
>>28590542
Retard.
Anonymous No.28591070 >>28591229
>>28590615
One method uses main engines. The other doesn't. Guess which one uses less fuel.
Anonymous No.28591186
>>28589281
>>28589288
>>28590174
Old Aerospace dudes are Bros.
They have so many good stories.
I talked to the guy who designed most of the original predator drones.
Anonymous No.28591200 >>28591227 >>28591314
>>28588601 (OP)
Why do anons even doubt the moon landing?
You can see the shit they left behind with a high powered telescope.

You're think the USSR wouldn't have called us out if we lied?
You think China wouldn't call us out with their new moon rover?
Anonymous No.28591217 >>28591261
>>28590907


It worked like SHIT for decades wasting BILLIONS with paltry little to show for it that could have been used to make better systems instead and you save A LOT more fuel by not having all that dead weight and drag to overcome in the first place.
So many sparkless wordcel morons with no visiospatial imagination who seem to think that lifting surfaces and all attendant subsystems thereto just spontaneously appear in orbit when it's time for reentry. Reality check: you have to boost all that shit up there IN THE FIRST PLACE. Heavy ass needs more thrust. Draggy ass needs more thrust. More fuel, more weight, lower payload, ballooning costs, nothing going to space.
The amount of thrust a rocket needs to change velocity at the end of its flight is TINY because it's already EMPTY.
You truly cannot comprehend how much of a game changer the Falcon rockets were. In 1999, the total lift to orbit capacity was roughly 183739kg. By 2022, this had grown to over 900,000 kilograms, a nearly 500% increase, and Musk's SpaceX is personally responsible for 96% of all of it, and with less than a tenth of NASA's annual budget in costs, because they made space cheap, and this made all sorts of things possible, new valuable pursuits that theretofore had only been dreamed of.
Because, amongst other things, he didn't tell his engineers to do something stupid like yet another stillborn dead on arrival 'space plane', he had them design a proper reusable rocket that flies the way a rocket properly should, and it made him one of the most consequential men on the planet as a result. The washington empire relies on SpaceX for EVERYTHING; communications, command and control, intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance. It's literally and unironically one of the only load bearing pillars left in its house of cards.
Anonymous No.28591226 >>28591282
>>28589073
We lost the technology, chud
Anonymous No.28591227
>>28591200
telescpotes arent real anon
lenses? Hokum
no one has EVER refracted light
get real with your gay science bullshit

also I wont bother using someone elses equipment to check, that would require a modicum of effort
Anonymous No.28591229
>>28591070
VTVL uses less fuel and you are ignorant. Stop trying to contradict already settled facts by making baldly confident assertions in matters you have less than a dilettantes awareness of.
Anonymous No.28591254
>>28590061
Any delta-v savings would be negated by the weight of landing gear capable of applying brakes for the bajillion KM it would take to stop without any cooling via airflow
Also, the cost and time of building a perfectly smooth bajillion KM runway, or a carrier deck capture style system if you fuckin dare
Anonymous No.28591261 >>28591296 >>28591845
>>28590907
>>28591217
>>28589982
I'm entirely convinced that the whole point of building the space shuttle was for military use, ie orbital nukes and satellite capture, ours or otherwise. Hell, the military still operates an unmanned mini-shuttle. The shuttle program as it was just didn't make sense as an apollo follow-up, it's a wannabe without any of the tech to make it reusable or practical for the vast majority of civvy missions, but as the aforementioned military plane it certainly makes sense
Anonymous No.28591267 >>28591282
>>28589073
The jews tried to can it day one. I'm entirely convinced that the screws began a-tightenin' so hard in the 60's was to kill off our budding space empire, to prevent us from escaping.
Anonymous No.28591282 >>28591510
>>28591226
Unironically that can happen fast.
We basically lost the ability to make F22 afterburners for a while.
They lost the tooling.
The guys originally making them are dead
Took a year to figure out to make good parts again.
I think the first 20 were scrap.
Turns out there's a bunch of trial and error shit that wasn't written down.
Same shit probably happened with the moon landings.


>>28591267
Jews always need a slave class to survive.
Anonymous No.28591295
They used a bunch of gears and stuff to make the wheels go faster with less motion.
Anonymous No.28591296
>>28591261
I'm willing to buy that that may have been one of the rationalizations. Maybe even a big one. But by that point the rot had already set in, and they didn't have the capability to do anything else, either.
In the early to mid twentieth century when georgetown needed a functional military industrial complex to conquer the world, for every one system that went into service you had dozens of protypes that didn't, because exploring potentially 'wrong' tech wasn't a problem when you had a bunch of different powerful organizations with the competence and capital to spare pursuing many different threads at once.
A mere couple of decades later though, when georgetown felt it had no more need of overly mighty servants, and was far more concerned with undermining the possibility of any potential rivals at home then abroad, the incipient technocracy is strangled in the crib. Now, you have a committee of bureaucrats debating what they 'think' is going to be the right technology before hand, and that's the only one that gets funding - and no iterative testing or rapid prototyping either, because 'failed' tests look bad in the minds of the bureaucrat who authorized it.
And that's how it takes over 20 years just to get a new space telescope.
Anonymous No.28591314 >>28591423
>>28591200
>You can see the shit they left behind with a high powered telescope.
At an observatory.
There's no telescopes you can put in your yard that can see any man made objects on the moon.
Im not a denial faggot.
We went to the moon.
Im just clarifying.

I honestly dont know if the movie "Interstellar" started this shit or if its a CIA OP or just retarded zoomers that cant even drive a manual transmission so they automatically assume people are incapable of greatness.
Other options are "White man has been on the moon while africans cant figure out a well so let's just claim its all a lie to make the peons living in the favellas feel better about themselves..."
Anonymous No.28591423 >>28591589
>>28591314
>There's no telescopes you can put in your yard that can see any man made objects on the moon.
Because you're too poor. Stop being poor, build an observatory in your back yard, fuck your HOA, and look at some neat space shit.
Anonymous No.28591510 >>28591524
>>28591282
Yeah, when people say "we lost the technology" that's just deliberately feeding /x/ crap. "We lost the exact tooling/process, but with enough engineers and R&D, we could remake or surpass it" is the longer, more boring answer.
Anonymous No.28591524 >>28591671
>>28591510
That's probably already longer than what a significant % of people can read, parse and digest.
Anonymous No.28591589 >>28591819
>>28591423
More like
>suffer from light pollution
>barely see the moon
I mean think about the real reason they are installing gay LED streetlights everywhere.
Anonymous No.28591671 >>28591705
>>28591524
i'm really sick of this faggy "everyone else is a rapidly declining retard only i remain unfluoridated" bullshit mentality
just shut the fuck up
Anonymous No.28591705
>>28591671
The retards were always there. Society just didn't give them a means of spraying their mental diarrhea all over the world's media.
Anonymous No.28591746
>>28588601 (OP)
I have an ebike (inb4 go back to /n/) that runs on one 36 volt battery and it can get up to 20mph with some trouble with me and my girl on it.
I don’t see why the moon rover would struggle much more.
Anonymous No.28591819
>>28591589
>real reason they are installing gay LED streetlights everywhere
They make more light with less electricity. Unfortunately they also choose a terrible color choice instead of a nice warm light like the sodium bulbs produced.
Anonymous No.28591845
>>28591261
>I'm entirely convinced that the whole point of building the space shuttle was for military use
Umm.....
Dude.
Thats the official government narrative.
The shuttle was redesigned from its initial planning for military use.
Like
Literally.
Technically
Officially
Its not a conspiracy, its public knowledge.
Anonymous No.28591862
>>28588601 (OP)
It was fake. I thought we all knew this.
Anonymous No.28591903
>>28590596
I have to work on them. I see them in my nightmares.