Thread 28597339

I bought a red Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce. I have owned a Firebird. I have owned Lexus. I have owned both a FIAT 500 Abarth and a FIAT 124 Spider Abarth. I still have a Jaguar XJ L V8 and after all that, I can confidently say the Alfa has the most insane driving dynamics of anything I have ever been behind the wheel of. It is crazy how good it is. Cant wait to take this thing to the track.

>>28597339 (OP)
Raped by Volkswagen

>>28597339 (OP)
Congrats anon, you're living the dream!
Manual or auto? I think I've heard they sell manual Guilias somewhere, sadly not in my country it seems, which sucks.
Nice to hear Alfas still handle well even after being bought by Stellantis, maybe the future is not so hopeless if it's still good.

>not a quadrifoglio
money down the toilet + lol poor
also nobody denies the handling + engine are above par - the issue is the interior is crap and the feature content is low - you are getting a fairly barebones vehicle and repairs are of course god knows how expensive

>>28597339 (OP)
That is a cool dodge you got there

>>28597339 (OP)
excellent choice. Q2 or Q4? I was an AWD hater before learning about the kino Alfa Q4 system.
>100% AWD until front tire slip is detected
>then sending some % to the front wheels
absolute kino and feels just like RWD but with bonus traction. like using slicks

>>28597390
>100% RWD*

>>28597390
>>100% AWD until front tire slip is detected
it's nice having a system that can lock the AWD into "always on" - i.e. a 50 50 torque splitter for super winding roads + dirt roads - it really makes a difference

>no pictures of it
nice larp post

>great size
>great looks
>double wishies in the front
>multi link in the rear
>LSD
what’s not to love? you can really wake that thing up by adding a squadra hybrid turbo and a squadra tune. will net you 350-370hp. cost: around 2.5k bux

>>28597397
How about YOU stop larping and post your shitbox keys, Anon. Do it before I finish my second beer.. or else.

>>28597404
Thats the plan, keeping it tasteful. I want it to look stock.

>>28597386
Lol… lmao even. You know nothing of these vehicles Anon. The twin turbo V6 has issues. The four banger takes to mods bettee and is more reliable even after bumping the horses up to 400. How about you go do some reading before you come on here and make yourself look retarded by spouting a bunch of shit.

>>28597415
It's an image board. Why dont you post a picture of the car

>zoomers are trying to shit on alfa for using 4pots
that’s like shitting on bmw for using straight six engines

>>28597450
Because its raining, you faggot. Its an image board, why have you not posted images of your kia?

>>28597386
Quadrifoglio owner here and the 2L is in no way a waste of money, I loved my 2L when I had it. Sure, I upgraded to the bigger engine, but that was a lucky coincidence of pricing and not a need
>>28597339 (OP)
Congrats op, welcome to the club, you're now ruined for any other car below 100k USD

>>28597390
>I was an AWD hater before learning about the kino Alfa Q4 system.
>Describes what Nissan has been doing since the 90's
It's a good awd system but it's been done by Nissan's ATTESA and BMW's xDrive. Sure they'll be some tuning and mechanical differences plus how they handle on slip detection, but it's all the same principal of rwd first and awd second for traction loss

>>28597482
This is objectively false, find me sources directly saying this.

>>28597459
stop being so angry
if i made a thread that i bought a mclaren 750s and i didnt post pictures how would you feel

>>28597496
Flattered you put my car in the same class as a McLaren

>>28597488
>This is objectively false, find me sources directly saying this.
>Cannot comprehend that a Jap shitbox company developed this system since the 90's for the GTR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATTESA
ATTESA ETS was used in the R32 GTR in 1989

>>28597482
wrong. xdrive is never 100% RWD. the only exception is when using RWD mode in the real M models. but then you’re locked in RWD at all times

>>28597503
>can go 0:100 during acceleration
yeah but Q4 is always 0:100. AWD only kicks in when shit is about to get bad

>>28597562
>yeah but Q4 is always 0:100. AWD only kicks in when shit is about to get bad
So like the Nissan ATTESA E-TS? What is your car doing if not trying to accelerate when you put the power down? Even then, ATTESA E-TS lets you oversteer during hard cornering before AWD kicks which makes it feels more like a rwd car.

>>28597562
so it's literally just the dodge AWD system from the v6 charger

>>28597404
>great looks

>>28597562
>can go 0:100 during acceleration
You're also butchering the full quote which is that it can go from 0:100 split to 50:50 split in acceleration

>dead platform
So in short: it’s a nothingburger

>>28597603
Holy based

>>28597603
>had to use chatgpt and ask it to affirm his beliefs
bahahahahahahaha
>Noooooooooo, Shitsan couldn't have made it in the 90's
>uh well, it's outdated then!
No shit, you're comparing a 90's Nissan AWD to the modern Q4
Said 90's Nissan is a Group A champion for its time and what races did your Alfa win with Q4?
Goal post movig pasta fag

Alfa sisters.... our Q4

>>28597628
Yo what do you drive, Anon? post a picture of your keys.

>>28597628
holy based, I’ll go ahead and buy one right now.
oh wait

>>28597628
excuse me?

>>28597634
>holy based, I’ll go ahead and buy one right now
Go ahead, plenty of lightly used ones. They go up to 2024 if you want the freshest ones for the most unreasonable prices.

>>28597645
>buying used

>>28597639
Sorry anon, it says that the Q4 awd system has no direct motorsport pedigree

>>28597649
Go ahead for this untouched one

>>28597656
>200k just so I can experience a chink giulia
post yours btw

Very nice
I wish I could talk myself into one because it's one of the only new cars I have any interest in that isn't absurd money, but I've got no covered parking and they are too nice to just leave out in the weather

>>28597662
>200k just so I can experience a chink giulia
You don't even need that much for a rear biased awd car. Nissan made the system in a bunch of Infiniti's or Nissan Skylines if you lived in regions that sold them like in the UK or Australia. Enjoy your car man, I actually think they're nice and drive well. I just think blind fanboyism for a system you thought was never done before, was fun to poke at

>>28597691
none of that exists in my euro shithole.
it’s between the giulia, bmw and, uuuh, that’s about it

Are we sure this isn't just a dodge charger with italian styling? You're telling me a Stellantis product is """"""""""""""good"""""""""""""

>>28597738
>it’s between the giulia, bmw and, uuuh, that’s about it
Unfortunate I guess

I have a q4 ti sport. Only reason I haven't gotten a qv is I already have a rwd car for the summer.
>>28597386
The interior is fine though? My only complaints are no 360 cam, ventilated seats, and a HUD possibly. I've had mine 4 years and it's been reliable. I use a cjdr/ar dealer so everything is pretty cheap. My BMW broke a ride height sensor first month of ownership.

I don’t get the interior hate either. it’s among the most aesthetically pleasing to me. is it cheaply made?

>>28597940
>is it cheaply made?
yes. You have to be inside to understand it.
Also, AR never made a single car with a high quality interior, so you shouldn't expect any change here

Nice OP, I made a similar move going for a Jag XE S. I did consider a Veloce, but I love the supercharged 3.0 in the Jag. I get that the interior is egonomically weird but it rides and handles ridiculously well as well as having that fantastic engine.

>>28597339 (OP)
Based anon, doing what we wish we could, following your heart instead of a spreadsheet.

Good for you. You're going to enjoy that car a lot assuming it's a 2019 or newer model.

>>28598047
Saved, thanks for the touch up Anon

>>28597556
[citation needed]

>>28598179
He's right, it's always at least sending some power to the front wheels. I think xDrive before the G chassis cars was actually a fixed system, my old 330d xDrive certainly never felt like it was shuffling power around

>>28597940
No, it's on par with a 3 series. I honestly prefer it to a 3 series. I felt like the materials in the Alfa were higher quality, but it's less flashy so arabs like >>28597990 think that means it's worse.
It's way better than the 2-series I owned, and considering those sell for more now, it's a no-brainer if you're ok with an automatic.

>>28598199
I don't care, I want to read some technical info on it (not marketing bullshit from ads)

>>28598201
The F30 3 Series was totally dependent on options
95% of them have the shitty dakota leather and silver/piano black plastic trim which was terrible. The non-M Sport wheel is fucking awful too.
With the merino leather, wood trim and extended leather dash they're pretty nice.
My XE S interior is a lot better than the basic 3 Series but probably not quite as nice as an individual spec extended leather one. I prefer the XE steering wheel and seats though

>>28597339 (OP)
>gets rear ended by an immigrant with no license or insurance
>that'll be 20 gazillion, of your, dollars plz

Still ZERO pictures of the car kek

>>28597339 (OP)
congrats anon. i sold my quad this weekend
>great car
>shit dealers

>>28599173
Why did you sell it?

>>28598008
I also still have my V8 XJL, its my road trip car. Fantastic for casual use and a quick pull on the highway, but the Alfa has spoiled me at the race track... I dont think I will be able to take the Jaguar again.

>>28599173
I hope you didnt sell it because of the dealer network. I literally googled "Italian auto mechanics near me" and 4 popped up that work on Alfas within 30 minutes of me. Its not hard to find independents.

ChatGPT coming in clutch with the car themed memes

>>28597339 (OP)
I had one with the pre crashed look.
The V6 was a bit silly.

>>28599342
>I dont think I will be able to take the Jaguar again
That's fair, the XJ is a big old bus. The XE is a very similar setup to the Giulia, a bit heavier and the Alfa is definitely prettier (I don't think the Jag looks bad thoughbeit). The engine was the decider for me, to beat the Jag's engine I'd have needed to go for the Quattroformaggio which I'm too poor to afford.

>>28599697
will the XE eat me alive like an old BMW?

>>28599173
Why not use independents? I think I've been to a dealer once in my life (just so I could get maintenance stuff on their records before selling the car)
>>28599342
What do you think about the XF R / supercharged or whatever (500hp version). They're $20k here, but that's still in-between the 2.0t giulia ($8k) and the quadrifoglio ($40k).
>>28598227
Yeah, I think my friend's 3 series was basic bitch, my 2 series had the pleather seats. The giulias here all have the nicer luxo or w/e it's called leather package. So you get the leather dash, most have the nicer seats, etc.

>>28599697
Sell your children, a quattro formaggi is quite nice.

>>28599702
>What do you think about the XF R / supercharged or whatever (500hp version)
They're quite reliable for a 500hp luxury saloon, at least post-facelift with the updated chain tensioners.
They are getting old though, a minimum 10 year old super saloon is going to need some looking after. XFs are quite prone to minor electrical problems and obviously the engine might be leaky if it hasn't been serviced well.

>>28599729
Meant to add they're definitely less scary than an F10 M5 or an RS6 for example, I would trust the XFR to be a lot more reliable than either of those.

>>28599702
If I remember correctly, Alfa went on record saying they sourced the leather from hand bag companies. So you are literally getting Italian luxury handbag leather as your interior.

I like these cars. They are rather rare in my shithole country but I’m always happy spotting one.
Picrel a couple of days ago on my local track

nill kiggers

>>28599317
>>28599342
>>28599702
i live in a legitimate desert. I used to use an indy as my last loco, but there are legit none here. I traded it for an x5 so i can still tune that. i also still have my 911