Thread 28601372

Anyone have suggestions for a somewhat competitive rally car? It needs to be caged, FIA rated seats, 6 point harness, etc. I don't expect to win, but I don't want to get embarrassed. All courses are tarmac excel 1 gravel, which I may skip because it's far away.
Classes are basically:
>unlimited
>turbo AWD (WRX, Evos, etc.)
>RWD (mostly GR86s, but some higher power cars also running)
>FWD (Civic Type Rs and GR-Yaris dominate)
>Shitboxes (sub 2 liter engines of basically any drivetrain type)
Here are my contenders so far:
>a.) Megane RS Trophy (2012, 120,000 miles, $4300) - picrel
A few other examples available around the same price point
>b.) Alfa Romeo Giulia 2.0T (2017, 50k miles, $7500)
Easily tuneable to 320HP, could probably do the hybrid turbo swap for 380-400hp putting me way above the other turbo RWD competition. Would need an LSD, radiator, + ~$2k in tuning stuff and maybe QV brakes.
>c.) RX-8 (gen1, 6 speed, $3-5k)
>d.) Alfa Romeo gtv 3.2L full race-spec cup car ($15k, 80k miles) Would only need to swap out harnesses for 6 points, has carbon buckets, BBK, aero, etc.
>e.) BMW 135i ($9k, 75k miles, manual transmission, unmodded) or 130i ($5k)
>f) Mazdaspeed3 ($4k, 90k miles)
Mild modding like radiators, BBKs, suspension etc. is allowed, but engine swaps are not. I don't really want FWD, but the prices are insanely cheap compared to good RWD cars. An MR-S or something could be good as well, but it would be too small to travel to events and carry tires/tools etc.

OP is a retard and will never be anywhere near a motorsport event of any sort

>>28601372 (OP)
Will you even be able to afford to repair your car after the rallies?

If you have to ask, you can't afford it

>>28601372 (OP)
Thinking mans choice e87 120i.
Loads of aftermarket since its just e9x but smol.
You bin it no hard feelings.
Or get a 1.4 fiat punto and send it.
If you are starting you need a starter car not higher end you imbecile

>>28601372 (OP)
>Classes are basically:
>>unlimited
>>turbo AWD (WRX, Evos, etc.)
>>RWD (mostly GR86s, but some higher power cars also running)
>>FWD (Civic Type Rs and GR-Yaris dominate)
>>Shitboxes (sub 2 liter engines of basically any drivetrain type)
What are those classes? Where do you live?

>>28601388
I've literally already competed in rallies and various other motorsport. But I sold my car awhile ago when moving and need a new one.
>>28601408
Yes, hence "CHEAP" car that I can afford to replace if I throw it off a cliff.
>>28601456
Yeah, I guess I could get the 130i for the same price as a megane rs trophy, just seems way less competitive and probably less fun. Repairs I'm guessing would be about the same, maybe more (because BMW).

>>28601461
in a parallel universe with fwd GR Yaris

You've "already competed in rallies and various other motorsport" and you're intending to use your competition car as your commute car and your service car and you intend it to be actually competitive as well? Nigga this shit don't shake out at all.

>>28601468
Maybe he meant the third gen Yaris GRMN, but there was less then a thousand made of them and I doubt someone would turn one into an amateur rally car. It's more likely that he is in fact, retarded.

>>28601372 (OP)
>Easily tuneable to 320HP, could probably do the hybrid turbo swap
>Mild modding like radiators, BBKs, suspension etc. is allowed
Does turbo swap count as "mild modding"?

>>28601476
ECU tunes are allowed. The hybrid turbo has the same externals as a stock turbo so wouldn't be too noticeable unless they tear it down (won't happen).

>>28601467
>LITERALLY
kek'd
Also, don't believe you at all nigga

>>28601473
My guess is he thinks live is Gran Turismo or whatever
>pick car from a roster of used shitboxes
>equip rollcage and stage 1 turbo upgrade
>car and co-driver just spawn in at the starting line

Idk, pic related is my starter rally car. I haven't taken it to actual gravel rallying yet, but I took it to one track day (kinda counts as tarmac rally I guess?) and I'm going to another one in two weeks.

>>28601481
you can literally rent co-drivers or get a volunteer, retard. Get back on the bus.
>>28601493
oh yeah, forgot about swifts. They seem like a great choice too. Tarmac rally is way narrower than a track though.
https://files.catbox.moe/bou9z6.mp4

>>28601372 (OP)
Honda fit unironically are one of the easiest cars to cage because they’re designed with so much room inside. They do quite well in the small engine category

>>28601456
can't find a single manual transmission 120i for sale. Found a $1500 318i in great shape though....

>>28601504
In what time-space continuum is the swift a wide car? Most of your other choices are pigfat by comparison.

>>28601718
Saw the thread and for a second I was worried you're just retarded but not in a funny way. Turns out these concerns were unfounded

>>28601372 (OP)


Don't lie OP; what you're really asking is "what's an attainable practical car that's also fun to drive", just like everyone else.
There's no shame in that either by the way, just be honest.

>>28601372 (OP)
>expects to drive the car instead of trailer it to/from events
Yeah fuck off. Get a cheap truck/BOF van before any of that shit if you plan on actually competing in motorsport

>>28601493
Severely underrated cars.

>>28601456
Fiat had some 500 abarth rally cars and left the engine factory aside from some tuning and magneti marelli stand alone ecu

>>28601372 (OP)
>Alfa Romeo gtv 3.2L full race-spec cup car

I don't think you're serious about buying a three decades out of production Italian roadster; or that this putative listing even exists.

>>28602627
GTV, not spider
They usually build 20-30 cars for these one-make championships, and after the series is done the cars move on to amateurs and run in stuff endurance races or hillclimbs
OP is a retard but that listing and price are probably real.

>>28602913
>>28602627
here's pics of the car (not many interior shots)
Mod list:
>Exterior / Aero
Zender Cup full aero kit
Front gooseneck bumper
Lightweight FRP bonnet (ducted)
Spare trunk with SARD GT wing (included)
>Cup Car Parts (apparently these can be worth a lot)
Dashboard & dry carbon interior (door panels, floorboards)
Full dash-through roll cage w/ A-pillar stiffener
Front suspension arms
Front & rear stabilizers
Battery relocation + kill switch
Antenna delete
>Interior
Driver seat: dry carbon Alcantara bucket (Cup embroidery)
Passenger seat: OEM OMP Cup bucket
OMP quick-release steering wheel
>Chassis Reinforcement
OMP front mount reinforcement bar
Front underbar (custom clearanced)
>Suspension
Aragosta remote-reservoir coilovers, damping adjustable
Springs: F 18k (Swift) / R 32k (Eibach)
Rear frame modified for negative camber
>Wheels / Tires
Rays 57C, 17" (F 8.5J / R 7.5J) w/ PCD100 adapters
Tires old & shit replacement required
>Engine (125,000 km)
3.2L, head refreshed, lash adjusters replaced (122k km)
Timing belt & water pump replaced (120k km)
>Intake / Exhaust
CDC intake filter
Maekawa Engineering reducer kit
Equal-length exhaust manifold
ORECA equal-length racing front pipe (spiral type, no flex)
Straight center pipe (with optional metal cat for emissions)
Valve-controlled rear section: switchable straight-pipe / OEM+
>Cooling
ARC collector tank
Large-capacity aluminum radiator
>Electrical
Gauges: oil temp, oil pressure (water temp faulty)
Dry-cell battery relocated to cabin
Kill switch
>Brakes
Front: Endless mini 6 calipers + 330mm rotors
Rear: big rotor kit (spare rotors included)
>Transmission / Drivetrain
quick shifter
Stock clutch
LSD: KAAZ (I hate kaaz diffs)
Spare Parts
New rear big rotors
Straight racing exhaust (toggle switch between OEM muffler & race exhaust)

>>28603021
image merger went haywire...

>>28603021
That's nothing, I could gap it in my M561 Gamma Goat with just a few simple mods:

- 10 point cage with Parachute
- 3 piece discontinued JoJo frontend
- spec-R full drag suspension
- Fuel cell with -8 lines from tank to motor
- 1 044 bosch pump
- 1200 rc injectors
- golden eagle sleeved block
- cp 10:1 pistons
- Eagle rods
- arp headstuds
- oem h22 headgasket
- Balance shaft delete
- competition clutch twin disc
- Port and polished head
- skunk2 valve springs and retainers
- Str cam gears
- crower stage 1 cams
- aluminium radiator with slim fan
- gsr transmission with itr lsd.
- qsd h2k intake manifold adapter
- k20 rbc manifold
- qsd throttle body spacer
- blox 70mm throttle body
- 4bar omni map sensor
- 6al msd with coil and cap. 3 step launch control
- hks bov
- Garret 102mm turbocharger.
- Custom t4 front facing turbo manifold with 44mm flange
- 44mm tial wastegate
- Custom water to air intercooler set up
- aem eugo wideband w/ gauge
- tuned on chipped p28
- 13 inch volks drag rims
- 2 15 inch volks rear rims
- arp extended wheel studs
- si cluster
- 150 shots of nitrous
im making 348 horsepower to SIX WHEELS because thats the only place the power should ever be

>>28603021
sounds like a winner in everything except how much regret you'll have when you bin it

>>28603038
about 1280kg with a full tank of gas and all fluids. Forgot that bit. Quite a bit lighter than stock.

>>28603035
man, people having money for cars really makes you busriders seethe, lmao

>>28603044
don't get it twisted mate

>>28603052
go ahead, post your car

>>28603068
1995 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Type RA ver.2 (GF8 from Japan)
2000 cm^3 exhaust HKS Turbo ( IHI VF-22) 1,3 bar Redline 8500
1 - 100 km/h - 4.2
1/4 mile - 12.45
~ 350 h.p.
I from Russia. I go by this devil machine on streets of Moscow
3 times successfully disappeared from police
Basically I go accurately and on special lines.

>>28603069
slow piece of shit... i can smoke the fuck out of this in my 1999 GMQ GS with a couple of simple mods:

-10 point cage with 03+ retrofit cupholder
-3 piece discontinued FoMoCo aero front end
-HPP full handling suspension
-1.5" Addco rear sway bar
-23mm Marauder front sway bar
-03+ Dorman intake manifold
-P71 3.55 rear gears with Trac-Lok
-Marauder intake w/ MAF
-aluminum hood
-new Motorcraft coil packs on all 8 cylinders
-17" star-style HPP alloy wheels
-P71 resonator-less dual exhaust w/ Marauder tips
-two spotlights
-4R70W J-mod
-cop chip
-cop suspension
-cop motor
-new alloy timing chain guides
-third spotlight
-Marauder oil and voltmeter pod
-A pillar tachometer
-KYB Gas-a-Just front shocks
-Ford Racing forged rods and crank
-Trickflow 2v Mod heads (PI ports)
-BH1976 headlight relay upgrade kit
-LTC 40/20/40 front seats
-HPP rear air ride
-P71 external oil and tranny fluid coolers
-Cadillac 4-note horn
-two sirens
-humorously oversized CB radio antenna
-cup holder delete
-spotlight delete
-BLACKED honeycomb grille w/ custom FPV badge
-LTC digital dash w/ red temp overlay
-garage door opener delete
-painted Marauder headlight surrounds w/ cornering lamp
im making 295 lb-ft to the REAR WHEELS because thats the only place the power should ever be

>>28603068
I'm currently converting a 1991 SW20 MR2 to all wheel drive, using a cosworth MT75 gearbox, and running the diff upside down.
The engine I'll be using a nissan VQ35, which I will be destroking to 2litres for rally regulations, and will be using a single IHI Turbine.
I'm currently cutting the transmission tunnel, and my angle grinders a peice of shit, does anyone have any tips here? I've got through 6 of these fucking wafer thin discs so far, all they do is snap into peices.
>Pic related, its the tunnel I'm cutting out the car. Its where the fuel tank would normally be but I'll be running one single carbon fibre fuel cell in the passenger footwell.

>>28601372 (OP)


there are lots of cheap past gen corvettes, but you seems to be a eurofriend so that might not be an option for you - and also maybe slightly blasphemous to rally a vette, but dangerously based too (camaros with the 1le package can go here too)
for gookshit cheap speed there's v6/v8 genesis coupes (pre 2016) and v6 kia stingers
chevy cobalt ss
2010-2014 impreza wrx's
2013-2017 v6 accords, 2017-2022 2.0t accords (the v6's can be boosted for even bigger power)
2011-2016 vr6 passats
370z's

Out of these options, the corvettes, cup car, wrx's, stingers, 135i's, 370z's, v6/v8 camaros, and v8 genesis will have the fastest drags. The mazdaspeed, accords, cobalt, giulia, megane, passats, and v6 genesis are all comprable in performance. The cup car, 'vettes, 1le v8/v6/i4 camaros, rx-8, 370z, and cobalt will have the best handling. The megane rs and trophy editions were made in 2017 not 2012 so that sounds like a scam.

>>28603620
>you - and
thanks AI
yeah, cheap American cars are basically non-existent, but jap & eurotrash is cheap here.
RX-8 would probably make a lot of sense, but the prices sort of bottomed out already and you have to worry about getting a neglected engine and whatnot that would eat up a lot of the budget and they're lacking in power vs competitors. Surprisingly I could get a clean 370z for $11k, I thought they'd be more. Sort of pigfat, but seems like a relatively trouble-free car.

>>28603620
>The megane rs and trophy editions were made in 2017 not 2012 so that sounds like a scam.
You might be thinking of the Trophy R, they did make RS Trophies in 2011 and put those upgrades on the normal RS from the next model year on.

>>28604377


That's a minus sign, not an em dash, which is fine as a stand-in for vernacular communication since it's right there on the keyboard and noone knows the unicode commands for the proper character anyways and also noone except an english teacher will notice or care - which is to say since a LLM doesn't have the same user-interface limitations that's one easy tell of difference.
Anyways, although mentioned for the sake of completeness, I personally wouldn't want to bother with the trouble of servicing an rx-8 and they're fairly gutless too, as you note. The nissan is a good and reliable car, I think you'd have a good time with it if you go that route, all the objective numbers you'd want, one of the all time great sports coupes.
The funny thing about the souped up family sedans is that they're unironically even faster than a lot of 'hot hatches'. Honda has always made the accord an over-performer with suspension tuning, and both they and volkswagen really nailed dialing it in in that time period. Real fun when thrashed and can get proper hektik when pushed to the limits. I miss the days when manufacturers would just randomly throw in a high power engine as a trim option for their fleet cars. (Also I'll admit I just think it would be funny to see someone roll up to the special stage in their commutemobile.)