Thread 28602083

I'm weirdly excited for this thing even though it's gonna be CRZ v2 at best, and apparently it's getting a formal launch in Japan today. Where can I find info, and more importantly, am I stupid to care?

>>28602083 (OP)
It's faster than the first one and it gets good gas mileage, you seriously want a manual with the retarded dipshits on the road these days?

>honda civic coupe
>same engine rated at 200hp for 25 years now not a drop more
>5k extra + dealer markups cuz we are calling it a prelude not a civic coupe now
ur getting fleeced

>>28602083 (OP)
https://www.autocar.jp/car/honda/prelude

>>28602083 (OP)
This thing reminds me of EVA-01.

>>28602083 (OP)
day 1 buy for me

>>28602083 (OP)
another dogshit for the retarded weebcels, who love eating any shits nips defecate all the time.

>>28602083 (OP)
I think it's neat, but why should I buy it over a regular hybrid Civic? Besides the style, which is nice imo.

>>28602808
has some civic type r suspension and maybe brake parts.

>>28602808
>hybrid Civic
*pukes*

I'll buy one when it looks like a prelude. Fuck this ugly frumpy pos, worse stats than the last model 25 years ago.

>>28602817
Are you a manualcel? My last two cars have been manual, but it's obsolete tech now. Time to move on.

>>28602836
0/10 ragebait

This shit looks like a sleeping pill wake me up when it hits 60 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Would be much more interesting if it had rear motors. Then the hybrid coupe thing would make some sense.

>>28602083 (OP)
>$40k+ for a less practical, 100% copy-pasted drivetrain/badge engineered version of a FWD hybrid grocery getter that costs $10k less with additional crashy racecar larp suspension
This is an F150 Lightning tier lolcow vehicle. Who on earth does Honda think will buy this? It's completely baffling coming from such an established manufacturer.

>>28602092
>faster than the first one
>debuted in 1979
>somehow a good mark by anon standards

the last prelude was perfect. even by todays standards it's a fantastic handling car with good level of power. with modern tech, how can you consider a reintroduction of a legendary car with worse specs to be acceptable?

>>28602824
cant believe it gets mogged by the prius

>>28602083 (OP)
Not another Prius no not again please

>>28602083 (OP)
>make sporty looking coupe
>nobody buys it because underpowered hybrid and ecvt
>wow people really hate sports coupes

>>28603754
yeah they really half ass everything
never gonna get an engine with 30-40 more hp - that's really all it needs to be special and they won't do it

>>28602083 (OP)
Looks like a 20 year old eclipse with a different front end. Awful.

>>28602083 (OP)
Looks like a 20 year old eclipse with a different front end. Beautiful.

>>28602083 (OP)
>Tops out at 113mph
Why the fuck do they do this shit?

Couldn't even scrape together the balls to make it a 1.5T with a direct-drive electric motor rear axle lmao.
Japan what the fuck happened to you.

>>28602083 (OP)
Barely quick, heavy for what it is, garbage interior, FWD, cvt.
This is an embarrassment, it's just a worse accord coupe v6

is it a liftback at least?

>>28604095
“Hondas, like many vehicles, have speed limiters set by the manufacturer for safety reasons which can restrict top speeds to around 113mph. This is done to ensure better control and stability, especially for vehicles not designed for high-speed performance”
So yeah, for “safety” and most likely to protect the CVT from overheating… also they can put cheaper tires on it and save money.

>>28604095
Because that's roughly 180 kph

>>28604095
All Japanese market cars are required to be electronically limited to 180 km/h (roughly 112 mph). They were simply too lazy to remove it for the US market versions. Shows you both how much they care about this piece of shit and who they think is going to buy one.

I was interested but not at that price. I could buy a lightly used mustang and a new versa for winter with the same money. I might wait and see if i can get a lightly used one or a demo with a big rebate in a few years.

>>28604095
cuz of CVT. More than 113 MPH, it will breakdown so fast. It would be hella expensive to repair/replace.

>>28604095
>>28604240
Needs a PDK

>>28602083 (OP)
>prius at home

>>28602083 (OP)
>Where can I find info
It cost the equivalent of $41k in japan, make of that what you will

>>28602083 (OP)
It looks like a civic coupe. The older preludes tried to have longer and lower hoodlines to stand apart. From that angle it looks like it has a huge ass so I don't get it.

>>28602824
I never noticed nu Prelude is basically a modern version of the bottom left

>>28604600
That's unfortunate because that's the worst prelude by far in every aspect

>>28602083 (OP)
It seems like a decent daily but the price isn't worth it. I can get a top trim civic hybrid for like 10k less. Somebody tell me when they put the 2.0T and 6 speed from the type R in it.

>>28602083 (OP)
>>28603734
I hadn't noticed until now but why the fuck do both of these have nearly identical front end styling? The Prius has been out long enough that the Honda designers ought to have seen it and gone "shit, we need to make our brand look distinct" but somehow we end up with a Honda and a Toyota looking like they're from the same lineup.

>>28605844
Don't look up recent Ferraris, anon.

>>28605883
Oh yeah I forgot about that. I don't get it, it looks retarded.

>>28604578
Old preludes were based on the accord and benefited from that cars longer wheelbase
If you stretched this thing out to current accord proportions it would probably look a lot better

>>28604231
>Honda
>big rebate

Wouldn't count on it.

>go on a sustained incline for >5 mins
>battery drained
>140 hp engine left
>losses thanks to electrical transmission ~25-30%
>100 hp left struggling to drag your 3500lb (unloaded) civic/crv uphill
>charge customers a premium for this privilege

>>28606208
This nigga climbing Pike's Peak

>>28602083 (OP)
its a cool little shitbox but its probably gonna cost like 35k. Dont really know what the market is for this thing since people dont really buy coupes anymore

>>28603734
holy shit I didnt realize how similar they look until now

>>28602808
Has type R suspension and brakes. Which is cool I guess. The Porsche fags and bMMw fags would cough up $100k if they could get a base 911 with GT3 suspension.

I wish they would just bring back the s2000 or something else that's RWD, and not make it a hybrid

>>28608075
>and not make it a hybrid
Petition your local politicians for more relaxed fuel economy and emission requirements. If you don't live in a dystopian authoritarian state of course.

>>28606208
Honda hybrids are direct drive electric vehicles. Despite the "eCVT" label, there is NO transmission in a honda hybrid. No planetary gear shenanigans like Toyota, Honda is just straight up electric motor directly driving the front wheels.
The purpose of the ICE is just to generate electricity. So 99% of the time you're only using electric motor 180hp.
The charge state of the battery doesn't matter at all and is just there to create efficiency by storing excess energy.

If you're going up a sustained incline and drain the battery, the ICE will start revving up to keep the electric motor juiced up. Horsepower of the engine is irrelevant. It's all electric motor. So yes, 200hp is a lie that can only be obtained when driving at 100 MPH, but it also will never drop to 100hp.

>>28609652
So it's like driving a skid steer lmao

>>28609652
>If you're going up a sustained incline and drain the battery, the ICE will start revving up to keep the electric motor juiced up.
The ICE only has 140hp MAX.
If it has to split that 140hp between generating electricity to the motors and to the battery then there's even less overall hp sent to the motors.
You can't beat thermodynamics.

>>28602083 (OP)
How are you excited for a generic looking fwd coupe with zero sporting chops?

>>28610597
the ICE is primarily an electric generator. the ICE and generator are directly and permanently linked. when the engine runs the generator runs. there's no if this or that. the only difference is the computer can decide to use the generated electricity to charge the battery, or disconnect the battery entirely and pump 100% to the electric motor, or somewhere in between as needed.

as I said, the battery is there to store excess energy such as regenerative braking or ICE generation during non-peak motor use.
It functions like a capacitor, you don't want the engine start-stop every single time the electric motor moves.

>>28610694
>go uphill
>battery drained
Explain how your 180hp electric motor can operate at 180hp when it's supplied by a generator driven by a 140hp engine?

>>28603612
>legendary
Bitch, it was nothing more than the BRZ of it's time.
I swear, you faggots need to get off that weird stage of your lives where you remained an Initial D kid working in a gas station so you can pay for gas and shit on your 80s corolla hatch.

>>28602807
Do ESLs really post here and think anything they post is readable?

The real reason for the prelude being so under baked is Honda keeps wasting money on non-car endeavors that never turn a profit.
The stupid robot.
The stupid business jet.
The stupid spacex wanabe rocket.

>>28602083 (OP)
>no manual
Guess I'll stick with my CR-Z

>>28610983
Hi ESL-kun lmao

>>28602083 (OP)
japanese manufacturers are so lost in the plot that it hurts

people loved jap cars because they were cheap, powerfull for price, reliable and fun to drive

meanwhile we get expensive and slow CVT boat with toyota headlights

>>28611036
>The stupid robot.
Hey you leave Asimo out of this.

Who is this car even for?

The only people I see excited about it are people who want the image of a small fun car but don't actually want a fun car. Kinda like a 4 cylinder mustang/camaro, or an automatic M1.
Oh boy, it has Type R suspension and brakes to... be uncomfortable commuting in your urban hellscape? slow car with a hybrid, but marketed as a sporty 2 seater for... uhhh, those guys who don't want a manual BRZ or Civic?

>>28611349
CRV is a best seller in the states.
US customers show their preference for overpriced, underpowered, cvt, gasket blowing suvs.

>>28608117
i think i read something about manufacturers making hybrid trims of certain cars because emission regulations would consider the average of the entire platform or something.

couldn't they make an automatic hybrid trim for american normalfags that just want a convertible? it would help with keeping it profitable too.
mazda sort of does this with the automatic miata which accounts for 1/3 of sales in the US. no hybrid yet but i'm pretty sure that's coming with the next gen considering the patents they registered in the past year.

is this a viable path for the S2000? i don't know that much about the auto regulations and maybe i misunderstood or hallucinated an article .

>>28612606
>couldn't they make an automatic hybrid trim for american normalfags that just want a convertible?
Convertibles are of their time. You'll have to wait decades before they become popular again, and you'll probably need to expel a few demographic populations since people won't put the top down if they don't feel safe in the open.

>>28602083 (OP)
For being a kinda pretend plastic sports car, this thing is insanely expensive here. You can get a new 370Z for less.

>>28602083 (OP)
No pop ups, don't care.

>>28602083 (OP)
Hoooonda time!

>>28602083 (OP)
It looks a lot like some other car I can remember the name/model though
That body is a carbon copy of something I just can't put my finger on it atm

>>28613176
Bro is from 1995

>>28602083 (OP)
>CTR brakes and suspension (tuned to be softer)
>short wheelbase, still relatively light
>very refined drivetrain
>extremely good gas mileage
>looks sexy as hell
Honda made a GT car for the everyman
Which is accurate to the original prelude, at least the 4th and 5th gen ones
they were more luxurious than a Civic coupe

>90s
>liftback coupe - integra
>notchback coupe - prelude

>2025
>liftback coupe - prelude
>abomination - integra

why.
is.
honda.
retarded.

>>28616202
Don't forget their flop of a manual hybrid (CRX) that was quickly brushed away. Its like they took that running gear and stuck it under a 2 door honda thinking it'll work the 3rd time.

>>28602083 (OP)
>Less combined output than the RSX
>Less combined output than the Civic SI
>"But it's a grand touring car! It always has been!"
POONda does it again

>>28605844
Cannot unsee.

>>28604095
Kek thats literally NA miata top speeds with half the hp. Honda pls

>>28616218
the Civic hybrid has a faster 0-60 than the Civic Si
Prelude will be the same

>>28610983
You like eating the shit that Japanese people poop out. Makes sense now white boy?

>>28616371
>the Civic hybrid has a faster 0-60 than the Civic Si
Si can do so repeatedly, hybrid is useless once the battery is drained.

I'm assuming its fwd trash

>>28614090
>looks sexy as hell
It looks like one of those diseased German shepherds with short spine.

>>28616456
You'd have to own a car in the first place if you want to shit on whatever wheel drive.

>>28616705
Keep coping fwd faggot. Your piece of shit is an economy car they convinced retards was sporty.

>>28616821
You still don't own a car

>>28612615
I don't think it's that they fell out of fashion, I think most people just aren't inclined to buy a car without a lot of utility anymore due to rising costs and stagnating wages.

>>28617306
are people who use this retort European?
in America that's like saying "you don't own a toothbrush". unless you live in nyc or something it's unusual to not own a car.

>>28617691
Are people who mindlessly shit on FWD cars brainlets who get their opinions from other mouthbreathers?
The answer is yes.

>>28618234
he's right though. I own a fwd coupe and a rwd roadster, and I have way more fun in the latter

I'll wait for the AWD k swap kit

>>28602083 (OP)
I drove the real Prelude a lifetime ago.
The fat thing op posted will be a sad disappointment.

>>28619894
I'm sure you do, samefag.