Thread 28603509

LOL, LMAO EVEN.

>eCVT
>200 he
>hybrid

>>28603509 (OP)
Yeah? It's a Honda. Same power train as the civic. 200 hp and 232 torque, with fake shifting from the eCVT. Uses the suspension from the Type R.

It's just a sporty, swoopy looking, cheap grand tourer.

>>28603509 (OP)
how much?

pathetic. just get a damn miata at this point

>>28603717
too low and I don't want a manual

Yes the Prelude is just using a name for an old car that was cooler on the Civic coupe and the Integra is just using a name for an old car that was cooler on the Acura badged Civic, what is there to not understand

Honestly, I need something to serve as my normal car and I think this would do the trick. All weather coupe that can be mildly fun.

>>28603718
???

All they had to do was make a car to compete with the miata and 86. 200 hp is fine but it needed at the minumum a manual option. I know RWD isn't honda's "thing" but come on. This is just pathetic

Who is this even for??

They really should not have gotten ride of the civic coupe. The 86 is eating every sports cars lunch and it is all because there is no real competition in the sub-40k new sports car market. Honda tried desperatly to shill the Integra, but failed.

>>28603721
>cvt
>fun
nigger what

>>28603728
I suppose if it uses that Honda eCVT thing with no mechanical linkage for most speeds, it can emulate whatever gearbox it wants to.

>>28603721
This could work, but Honda will need to have made it more cheap and in different styles. The nu-prelude is clearly a every-day coupe, so it should be going all in on looks and appearance while doing just enough in performance so someone can independently make it sporty.

>>28603509 (OP)
Why you would buy that over a GR86 is beyond me.

>>28603801
Honestly I don't see anyone under 40 buying this thing. This is going to be a "cute" cat lady car.

>>28603718
> I don't want a manual

>>28603821
>good car angry

>>28603728
>kids without cars are posting here and spoon fed nissan cvt hate bates
grim

>>28603718
the fuck are you even here then retard?

>>28603509 (OP)
Couldn't they have made it a sporty hybrid, as in, more powerful than a normal hybrid Civic? Type R suspension and brakes are overkill on it.

>>28603846
>everyone on /o/ must dicksuck manuals that scrape on the ground everywhere
We aren't all LGBT, chuddie

>>28603856
>We aren't all LGBT
Correct, some of us want actually fun cars

>>28603833
It's not even about the looks. They didn't put a manual in it. e-cvt. It's a totally unfun appliance car. You could have more fun in a 2008 lancer with a cvt and that was a shit car compared to the manual. Honda fucked up.

>>28603856
>Scraping with the miata
Stop speeding over speed bumps or stop living in a third world country where they cant build proper roads.

>>28603509 (OP)
>>28603713
The worst part is $41K
>$41K
>$41K
>$41K
>$41K
>$41K

The retarded weebcels would eat this shit regardless.

Just get a giulia veloce

>>28603509 (OP)
I'd rather drive a Prius than this piece of shit

>>28603509 (OP)
>ugly
>badly proportioned
>abortion with an overhyped nameplate
Yeah, it's Honda. What did you expect? They haven't made anything worth taking a second look at since the S2000.

>>28603509 (OP)
>release new sporty coupe
>no manual
Why even bother? The only people willing to give up the practicality of a four door (probably crossover) are enthusiasts that are going to want a manual. Now they've pleased no one, and it costs far too much to boot

>>28603509 (OP)
>Hybrid Civic Coupe
>CVT (I know it’s just an eCVT, so it’s just a CVT with another gimmick shit that has potential for breakdown.)
>hyrbid
>200 hp
>over $40,000 - too expensive
>FWD

You pay over $40,000 for an FWD-biased platform based on a $30,000 slow Honda Civic sedan with a lower humpback and fewer than two adult seats. It’s filled with gimmick shits leading to breakdowns down the line.

lmao

>>28604070
>MUH FWD

uhhh the Prelude has always been FWD.

>>28604025
>>28604070
Yeah not for 41k. I thought it'd release as essentially a coupe version of the Civic Sport Touring, and be no more than 35k.

>>28604080
>Yeah not for 41k.
Its not the 2000s anymore. 41k isn't what you wished it was.

>>28604025
>>28604070
>>28604080
>>28604081
Honda is just cashing in on the legendary name, Prelude, despite already ruining it with this cucked shitbox.

>RETARDEDWEEBCELS SHRIEKING: IT IS OK WHEN HONDA DOES IT!

>>28603551
>suspension from the Type R
don't people fucking hate the type r suspension
half the review i see mention you should swap for the acura type s suspension
hell the fact that the type s uses different suspension should say something already
DOA

>>28604078
And that's always been a travesty.

>>28603841
>give car throttle
>deafening mechanical scream while barely giving any power
>driving on highway
>hearing damage due to sustained excessive noise

Yeah CVTs are not going to work and it's insane that the industry is still insisting on them. They are way the fuck too loud and lack passing/merging power.

>>28604093
Honda really made a sports coupe that drives like an Accord/Civic, slapped a higher price tag on it, and laughed while stupid gaijins lined up to buy the ‘sporty’ FWD dream.

>>28603551
fpbp
It's just a modern commuter coupe, the type of car most NPC types used to, and should still be driving instead of shit-tier cuckovers.
The problem is that those people don't see coupes as practical anymore, and I don't see Honda even attempting to market this as a "sporty" alternative to your average NPC that would otherwise only be looking at an HR-V/CH-R or whatever shitbox CUV is popular. No manual to satisfy the genuine autists that bought manual Insights and CR-Zs, either.
I imagine I'm going to see one of these nu-Preludes stanced on RPF1s by some Honda-bro hypebeast online before I even see one on the road since I don't know who else is actually going to buy these.

>>28604025
>>28604087
Are the weebcels in the room with us right now?

I don't understand why they're calling this a prelude, thoughever

>>28604110
If it (officially) isn't more expensive than an ecoboost Mustang then I'm still interested. 99% of my driving time has been alone with no cargo in the vehicle.
I wish they'd just skipped rear seats and given you full flat space from the tail to the front seats under the hatch.

>More expensive than a Type-R in Japan
>More expensive than a Z in Japan
I fear for the price tag on this thing. It seems like they want you to pay more for a chopped off civic hybrid coupe with Type-R suspension and their "S+ manual like automatic shifter". As well as some kind of "Acura level interior".

>>28603551
>Uses the suspension from the Type R.
This part is actually interesting

>>28604204
Nvm i didn't see the 41k pricetag fuck off

>>28604196
Also at 40k+ you may as well buy a CPO
>TT RS
>m240i
If you really need an auto coupe with loads of cargo space. Either would probably be more fun and sound better than this.
Unless you really want to own a hybrid.

>>28604110
>modern commuter cope
ftfy

>>28604219
Topkek, how fitting.

Wait it's actually 41k?
Literally BTFO by the Elantra N and it's not even out yet

>>28603862
>GAYS HAVE MORE FUN, BIGOT

>>28604123
They do. Look at these posts - reeks of retarded weebcels coping.

>>28604226
It has been confirmed.

>>28604229
damn wonder what it'll cost here considering the z starts at like 43k
How have we strayed so far from God

>>28604234
I will not be surprised if it costs $45K.

>>28604237
who would buy that? that's a mustang gt

>>28604229

>FWD coupe
>Costs more than a GR86

For what purpose?

>>28604227
>>28604228
Which posts? Everyone ITT is roasting this car. Are you sure you didn't forget your meds?

>>28604025
GR Corolla 6MT in its most basic trim with LSDs was $39k USD

>>28604229
>Nissan Z
>400hp
>JDM Prelude
>800hp
really?

>>28604251
retarded weebcels

>>28604252
see >>28604109

>>28604081
When the US median individual income is still only $58,000, a $41k civic hybrid coupe is overpriced.

>>28604087
Honda died after the NA2 NSX. Convince me otherwise.

>>28604025
it's competing with the 86/mx5 and looks almost as good as either. lots of boxter vibes. if honda can make it drive well, which we know they can do, even with fwd and no manual, it's a compelling option

>>28604264
are you blind? look at this >>28604302 and more

lmao

>>28604306
Wow, 1 whole post

>>28604308
based weebretard

>>28604025
>$41+K for hybrid civic coupe
DOA

>>28604302
>it's competing with the 86/mx5
70% of all MX-5s sold were with a manual transmission just for 2024. It's not even in the same league as those by default. Extra retarded since Honda is no stranger to mating a manual transmission to a hybrid powertrain.
I mean I want to see these sell just so I don't have to look at as many crossovers on the road, but it's wild to believe this is going to sell as a "sports car", even to weebs.

>>28604310
Sneed

>>28603509 (OP)
>prius at home

>>28604025
At this point I'll ask. Why not buy a Civic instead?

>>28604381
Can't wait for Toyota to bring back Celica as a Prelude competitor (Prius drivetrain with Corolla GR suspension and brakes)

>>28604110
>No manual to satisfy the genuine autists that bought manual Insights and CR-Zs
Like a grand total of 12 people? That's why they don't care to market to that crowd.

>>28603509 (OP)
It's litrally a Civic coupe with slightly hopped up suspenxxxion

for the price of a Mustang GT (Mustangs are always heavily discounted many thousands below MSRP)

this shit retarded

Only way this sells is if it has some major new tech

>>28604568
>Only way this sells is if it has some major new tech
So in other words, it's not selling

>>28603509 (OP)
Did they at least use the AWD drive train to make it AWD?

>>28604608
Fuck, I meant hybrid drivetrain. Kill me.

>>28604611
No, that get in the way of the 原動力.

>>28603509 (OP)
this is basically honda having an i8 moment

>>28604619
The i8 was actually original, just overpriced. Lots of big money bullet point features, just not the powertrain or 100+ mph to back up the price and looks

I love Honda, but Idk wtf they were doing with this.

Having Type-R suspension and a nice interior doesn't overlook the fact that it is still 200hp for 41k. Even then, the Honda fanboys(me) could overlook some of its issues if they put a manual in it.

What a shame

>>28604646
Prelude and RSX what the fuck were they thinking

>>28604641
that's fair, the i8 had a lot of good features, and might have been remembered as a great success if bmw didn't try making it fight in a weight class it couldn't compete in
that pretty much touches on the point I was going for though; honda upselling flash without substance to back it up

>>28604283
Median income earners really shouldn't be looking at buying any new sports car.

>>28604302
>it's competing with the 86/mx5
I know this is an ironic shillpost but you've baited me. At the very least if they wanted to compete with the brz and miat they needed to give it a manual option. It's honda ffs they fans would have bought it even if it was fwd. What a mess they've made of this release.

>>28604694
It's not a sports car though. It's an economy hybrid coupe and should be priced like one.

Every new car warrants this question:
>What are they doing different?
Because there's so much overlap and same-shit designs that I don't know why some companies bother when the only thing differentiating their vehicle from others is the badge and what bullshit software they make you deal with to do the same thing as the others.

I suppose there aren't many doing two-door hybrids, the only other ones are high performance vehicles easily triple this price. But with an ecvt, how do you lure customers away from the plethora of 'convenient' 4-door options?

>>28604229
>Using current conversion rate
Are they building the thing entirely from imported parts? Or are they expecting a low volume and nobody to buy them since management made retarded cost-saving decisions around the drivetrain?

>>28604727
It's a sports car to a normie, who are the target market for this thing. The Prelude has only ever been a date car.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/スペシャルティカー

>>28604745
>date car
So a cheap, low performance car that looks cool for getting pussy? Based.

>>28604596
Basically. Did the prelude really have thet much model name brand to begin with? I dont feel like it did

>>28604025
>last time I checked new Mustang GT prices, they were $35k
FUUUUUUCK

Will they sell any?

>>28605531
no

>>28603551
>cheap
fourty two thousand us dollars plus tax plus tags plus tip

>>28603728
I wish you braindead fucks would actually learn about the shit you hate before bitching about it.

>>28604312
the take rate for the mx5 mt is ~50%.
>>28604723
there are lots of buyers who only care about good looks and driving dynamics, and not so much about having a mt. lots of high end gt cars don't offer manuals for that reason.
it's also much more costly to offer MT and AT options compared to AT only which is what will generally sell better. that's why a lot of manuals don't come until after the AT has been around for a few years, ensuring sustained interest in the car before they can justify developing a manual

>>28603509 (OP)
>>28603551
>>28603726
>>28604110
>>28606635
>>28604312
The new Prelude doesn't have any modern competitors. If you were looking back to a contemporary that this configuration actually competes with it would be the Mazda MX6. Doubtful to see Mazda jump into the game with something similar these days though.

>>28604608
>wanting more parasitic drain on a 140 hp engine
It's already underpowered as it is.

>>28603551
>fourty two thousand dollars
>cheap

>>28603509 (OP)
Only fags drive hondas, slick.

>>28603551
>It's just a sporty, swoopy looking, cheap grand tourer.
It's none of these things, though.

>>28603509 (OP)
This thing is going to flop hard. No one looking at new sport coupes in 2025 wants a CVT. It needs to be a DCT at least and also come with a manual option too. Also, 200hp feels a bit under powered. But worse than that is FWD only. I get the old Prelude was also FWD, but it’s often seen as lame by enthusiasts. The CTR gets a pass from a lot of people, but just barely.

>>28603509 (OP)
>be honda
>make the honda e, a compact electric shitbox, rwd
>fast forward half a decade
>remake the prelude: a sporty touring car
>make it a hybrid
>refuse to put any motors in the back
>cvt only
The head of marketing research, chief engineer of this car, and the VP that approved it should all be demoted back to IC positions in completely different departments. Christ, how many people looked the other way to rubber stamp this thing through?

>>28606635
The prelude was a low volume seller: the only market for it is people nostalgic for older models, which sure as shit wasn't the autos. Making it AT only is going to make it compete directly every 200 hp or less FWD shitbox on the market and it will do poorly at that with two doors. If they couldn't afford installing every other car on the production line with one of two transmissions that already exist, then it shouldn't be made to begin with.

>>28609021
Basically what I'm saying is that by not offering in a remotely interesting package (manual), it's just going to flop and not get the chance to get a manual later anyways. I doubt this thing will even make it to 4 production years.

>>28603509 (OP)
Who is this for exactly?

>>28603509 (OP)
What are the chances they're pulling a Integra releasing a base model before moving on to a hotter model?

>>28608907
>200hp feels a bit under powered
It's 200hp for 5 mins and only if you're above 60 mph.
Under 60mph its a 141 hp engine -> generator -> electric motor. Aka massive drivetrain losses.
Above 60mph it's direct clutch engagement to the 141 hp engine.
So really it's max 141 hp of sustained engine power. Hybrids are all deceptive marketing about their "peak for 5 mins" power.

>>28609060
it already comes with type r parts
also what the fuck could they possibly price the higher trim if the base model is already 40k easy

Why the fuck does Honda call it an "ecvt"??? It doesn't have a fucking transmission?
It's an electric motor that connects directly to a differential, there's no CVT or transmission, the most it has is a coupling between the engine and the main drive motor at certain speeds. It's exactly how it works in the civic, accord and CRV. Why the fuck did Honda think calling it an ecvt would make people want to buy it, it literally is false marketing and turns people off even more. Fucking lol.

>>28603509 (OP)
>eCVT
dudes were pushing 350hp on stock internals with 10th gen civic sports and smoking v8s all on a CVT
>200 he
that's like having AWD and 300hp
>hybrid
More power and more torque

>>28609295
Nobody cares but nerds. Imagine all you know about transmissions is that a car needs one to move, and Honda says "this car has no transmission". That just sounds like a car that doesn't work.

>>28605648
>>28606814
mmyes indeed cheap. get shat on poorfags

>>28603509 (OP)
Prelude to what..?

>>28603509 (OP)
>>28603551
I feel like the suspension and brakes from Type R is overkill on it, Si bits should be enough

>>28606666
>The new Prelude doesn't have any modern competitors

Yeah because it doesn't have any customers either. Who the hell wants a coupe that is heavy, slow, a hybrid and expensive as fuck?

This thing is going to flop harder than the nissan z, and not even last as long

>>28609295
Honda marketing is retarded. Because toyota calls their planar transmissions an e-cvt they must also call their direct electric motor e-cvt too.

>>28610663
They know their customers don't know anything about cars. If they did, they wouldn't be paying $10k over MSRP for a basic bitch cuckover.

>>28604090
>women
lmao

>>28605531
Actually, I think this is going to sell very well. A lot of zoomers are going to financially ruin themselves on this.

>yeah, I'll finance over 8 years

>>28610566
Doubt it. Mexicans love Honda. Weebs love Honda. This car is flashy, even if it's overpriced and underpowered. People are going to buy it.

>b-but what about X car and Y car!
Not Hondas.