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Anonymous No.28608717 [Report] >>28608722 >>28608739 >>28608814 >>28608822 >>28608877 >>28608899 >>28608972 >>28609390 >>28609610 >>28609633 >>28609656 >>28609767 >>28610258 >>28611121 >>28611470 >>28611586 >>28613234 >>28616333
This confuses and enrages the eurofag.
Anonymous No.28608722 [Report]
>>28608717 (OP)
Amerishart here, I'm confused what this is as well.
Anonymous No.28608724 [Report] >>28609027 >>28609480 >>28609851
england literally has a freedom called 'the right to roam'
Anonymous No.28608739 [Report]
>>28608717 (OP)
>This confuses and enrages the creators of the Dakar Rally
Okay.
Anonymous No.28608814 [Report] >>28609635
>>28608717 (OP)
A gravel road?

It's called greece champ
Anonymous No.28608822 [Report]
>>28608717 (OP)
The right-hand turns are likely to confuse the burger.
Anonymous No.28608877 [Report] >>28608895 >>28608919 >>28608963 >>28609109 >>28609329 >>28609416 >>28609621 >>28609647 >>28609656 >>28609761 >>28609812 >>28609875 >>28611229 >>28611387
>>28608717 (OP)
French boomers in RVs crowd roads like that in Morocco every winter.
Anonymous No.28608895 [Report] >>28609115 >>28609812
>>28608877
For the love of god that is the most retarded shit I’ve ever seen.
All this public land micromanaging started with the Clinton administration. If you see a berm, drive over it for the good of our country
Anonymous No.28608899 [Report]
>>28608717 (OP)
im not driving my fucking car on gravel you nigger.
Anonymous No.28608919 [Report] >>28609812
>>28608877
kek rekt
Anonymous No.28608963 [Report] >>28609812
>>28608877
I don't think boomers who enforce rules are real, I think they are a simulation to test younger people.
Anonymous No.28608972 [Report] >>28609064
>>28608717 (OP)
i wish we had more of that in nsw :(
some logging roads in the middle of bumfuck nowhere but that's about it, practically a day trip just for some cheeky gravel fun
Anonymous No.28609027 [Report] >>28609375
>>28608724
Lol.
That "freedom" is for peons. Literally leftover from days of serfdom. Private property is for the ruling class. Youre nothing but tax revenue for the state.
Youre seen as cattle by the elite. Nothing but interchangable pawns for the meat grinder.
Anonymous No.28609032 [Report] >>28616430
This confuses me as an Eastcoastie. I have never seen a gravel road other than some privately owned farmer bullshit. I would love to just drive in the desert all day on my dual sport but everything is a fucking forest here and can't be driven on easily
Anonymous No.28609064 [Report] >>28609096 >>28609596
>>28608972
>a day trip just for some cheeky gravel fun
Fun? No no no, can't be having that in a serious place like NSW. Please reply to this post with your licence number so that the appropriate demerit points can be applied.
Anonymous No.28609096 [Report]
>>28609064
o-okay officer...
>DZ1-FMN
Anonymous No.28609109 [Report] >>28609812
>>28608877
i'd go in that trail on a 90s civic hatchback just to spite them
Anonymous No.28609115 [Report] >>28609509
>>28608895
That was probably written as punishment in case some moron got stuck there with the wrong car, it's not supposed to be actively enforced. but the little tyrants filling the government do not get it.
Anonymous No.28609329 [Report] >>28609812 >>28615889 >>28616041
>>28608877
>american '''''''''''''''freedom''''''''''''''''''
Anonymous No.28609375 [Report] >>28609504
>>28609027
i cannot understand why so many americans have this opinion?
>who owns land in right to roam countries?
farmers and rurals.
>who benefits from right to roam laws and is the most hardcore protectors of it?
farmers and rurals, its what grant them access to their land.
so where in this do you find serfdom, ruling class, elites and all that crap?
state doesnt own much land here, the church used to own some and it was very important for other local landowners to keep the right to roam when facing them because they didnt want some clergy to fuck up their livelihood.
Anonymous No.28609390 [Report] >>28609399
>>28608717 (OP)
different climate but much the same
Anonymous No.28609399 [Report]
>>28609390
Different climate and also different.
Anonymous No.28609416 [Report] >>28609530 >>28609812 >>28610002 >>28614794
>>28608877
I don't get it.
Isn't all wheel drive the same as four wheel drive?
Anonymous No.28609480 [Report] >>28609551 >>28609571 >>28609598
>>28608724
england left europe retard
Anonymous No.28609504 [Report] >>28609597
>>28609375
If you cant secure your property you dont own it.
The state controls who has access to "your" land.
The "right" to roam removes individual rights (land owner) and grants them to the masses (peons).
Anonymous No.28609509 [Report]
>>28609115
This.
The subaru got stuck and blocked the trail for a day.
Anonymous No.28609522 [Report]
Gravel roads are weaksauce marble mines is where its at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAm5z4MMoAU
Anonymous No.28609530 [Report] >>28609611
>>28609416
No.
Anonymous No.28609551 [Report] >>28609571
>>28609480
>England left Europe
Islands are far more mobile than I had initially thought.
Anonymous No.28609571 [Report] >>28609598 >>28609857
>>28609480
>>28609551

New mode unlocked: Continental Drift
Anonymous No.28609596 [Report]
>>28609064
Ah shit, I laughed... I know, I shouldn't have.
I'll submit my license now, too.
>YNW-B4W
Anonymous No.28609597 [Report] >>28609641 >>28610218 >>28614794 >>28615890
>>28609504
>you dont own it
thats a good way of saying it, we are only caretakers of the land. its total nonsense that someone can "own" a mountain they dont even live on. note we have a great divide between private property aka the land you live on, farm, use for business or whatever and privately owned land that can be a hillside in bumfuck nowhere hours of drive away from your home. right to roam only apply on land, never property. you guys dont own land this way, you rely on the goverment to own said land and instantly think right to roam on private land = right to roam on private property. well it doesnt.
Anonymous No.28609598 [Report]
>>28609480
Isn't Queer Stammer bringing them back?
You know, the guy who blocked all those child abuse probes while he was up high in Scotland Yard?
I'm pretty sure he's bringing the bongs back into the EUSSR.

>>28609571
Lel
Anonymous No.28609610 [Report]
>>28608717 (OP)

Europe is full of gravel roads . Try harder retard mutt
Anonymous No.28609611 [Report] >>28609645
>>28609530
Even the ones with the locking centre diff?
Anonymous No.28609621 [Report] >>28609812
>>28608877
They enforce some goofy ass rules at canyon lands
Anonymous No.28609633 [Report]
>>28608717 (OP)
Eurofag here
We have very similar places around the Med
Anonymous No.28609635 [Report]
>>28608814
Also Spain
Anonymous No.28609641 [Report] >>28609647
>>28609597
One can argue like that you don't own anything because everything you possess had to come from somewhere initially. Mostly from the ground.
Anonymous No.28609645 [Report]
>>28609611
Things usually called 4WD generally don't even have a center diff, but it's a retarded argument anyway
Last time I got into one people had trouble even reading the standard with definitions
Anonymous No.28609647 [Report] >>28609812
>>28609641
If you were an autistic retard, yeah you could.
Enjoy >>28608877 btw
Anonymous No.28609656 [Report] >>28610119 >>28611598 >>28614794
>>28608717 (OP)
I remember driving out of Canyonlands taking the backroad in a FWD Nissan Maxima and tearing that shit up
>>28608877
is this legit real? Why would they care if its not "4x4" im pretty sure a modern "AWD" that is only AWD under 20mph can handle those roads.
Shit, ive taken a minivan out there and only had to slow down on some bumps due to clearance issues. And as mentioned above, a FWD Nissan.
Now I did this during the dry season so maybe that?
Anonymous No.28609761 [Report]
>>28608877
They'd get a reply letter from me with just the word 'deez'.
Anonymous No.28609767 [Report]
>>28608717 (OP)
>he thinks there aren't roads like this in europe
maximum murrican
Anonymous No.28609812 [Report] >>28610253 >>28611416
>>28608877
>>>28608895 >>28608919 >>28608963 >>28609109 >>28609329 >>28609416 >>28609621 >>28609647
this is just so when someone inevitably goes missing because they used a car that couldn't handle it, they'd have to send helicopters and a rescue team to recover your dead body which could cost a lot of money.
Anonymous No.28609851 [Report]
>>28608724
>The migrants have a legal right to enter your house
Damn they always manage to surprise me with how worse they get
Anonymous No.28609857 [Report]
>>28609571
-N -Nani!!?
Anonymous No.28609875 [Report]
>>28608877
americucked nanny statefags lmaooo
Anonymous No.28610002 [Report]
>>28609416
You've clearly never dealt with bureaucracy and bureaucrats. The regulation says (High-clearance) 4x4 while the manufacturers identification for that vehicle was AWD, which is not the required 4x4 designation, so therefore the vehicle did not meet the requirements for that road. No braining allowed in government.

Even without the 4x4 "violation" they would probably come back at him with the high-clearance requirement but didn't bother this time since they had the 4x4 issue and high-clearance isn't defined afaik which will mean an argument and who would want that?
Anonymous No.28610119 [Report]
>>28609656
The gov is mad because Karen will take her AWD into terrible conditions and then the Fed has to pay six figs to haul them and the bad vehicle out of there.
Anonymous No.28610218 [Report] >>28611238
>>28609597
Yep.
Youre a peon.
And you even accept it as though its some Buddhist zen understanding of the universe because you've been brainwashed for generations.
Your entire country is a fucking joke.
Don you even have a loicense to post here?
Anonymous No.28610253 [Report]
>>28609812
If you're a retard even the mallcrawliest four by four won't help you. And they don't fine people for being retards, there's no rule against that, so it's a hypocrisy.
Anonymous No.28610258 [Report]
>>28608717 (OP)
That's a smooth looking road.
And smooth brained OP.
Anonymous No.28611121 [Report]
>>28608717 (OP)
Vibe.
Anonymous No.28611229 [Report] >>28611405
>>28608877
you can tell this is real and official by the incorrectly cropped National Parks Service logo in the corner
Anonymous No.28611238 [Report]
>>28610218
>i am so cool

the post
Anonymous No.28611387 [Report]
>>28608877
you just know this was made to cause seething in a subaru facebook group
Anonymous No.28611393 [Report] >>28611507
Spain has a desert biome
Anonymous No.28611405 [Report] >>28612826
>>28611229
DOGE laid off everyone at the NPS that knew how to format a word document
Anonymous No.28611416 [Report]
>>28609812
Nah this is just boomer stuff going "it has to be body on frame and 4x and if it is not made by Ford or Ram it is not a truck huzzaah"
Anonymous No.28611470 [Report] >>28611540
>>28608717 (OP)
>third world American suggesting that Europeans would be baffled or frustrated by the sheer emptiness, the lack of development, and the roughness of the road—something that is more normal in the third world poor U.S. but unusual in white first world Europe
>people enjoy a broader and legally protected freedom to access and use natural land than third world mixed, brown black Americans do in the U.S., where land access is more restricted and regulated
>this makes European freedom a unique and significant example of personal freedom related to nature that third world mixed Americans never will experience
Third world poor mixed Americans don't even know what freedom is and never will.
Anonymous No.28611507 [Report]
>>28611393
Westerns with Clint Eastwood were shot in Spain iirc
At this point I'm suspecting this is some kind of reverse trolling and OP is not even (North) American
Anonymous No.28611540 [Report]
>>28611470
>freedom to access and use natural land
Once again....
The State controls your land.
You have no rights or control over it.
You think its a good thing because you own nothing and are happy stealing from those that do (theft of service).
Literal parasite in a welfare state.
Anonymous No.28611586 [Report] >>28615892
>>28608717 (OP)
>In wyoming
>decide to take a side road
>it's gravel only
>dozens of cattle guards littered throughout it since it passes through various ranches
>after 30m driving along this I reach a closed gate
>no trespassing - some gay ranch llc
They couldn't have just put a "only local traffic" sign at the start of the turn off. fucking cock suckers
Anonymous No.28611598 [Report]
>>28609656
The reason those rules exist is because the NP has gotten tired of having to tow people out in crappy cars that had no idea what they were doing and then they get suck in mud or some shit. It's also a pain in the ass if you get stuck in needles and depending where you can easily just block up the entire road for others if you manage to while going down the cliff sides.
Anonymous No.28612826 [Report]
>>28611405
that letter is from last year
Anonymous No.28613234 [Report] >>28614385
>>28608717 (OP)
>Europeans turned driving on gravel roads into a fine art
>Americans never followed suit because they can't drive for shit
Anonymous No.28614385 [Report] >>28614732 >>28614762 >>28615648 >>28616333
>>28613234
Nah, euros just won't let a chance to feed their ego and claim superiority over others.
Americans just do it for their own benefit.
https://youtu.be/wjJt7zIU25M
Anonymous No.28614732 [Report] >>28615049 >>28615893
>>28614385
>look inside
>driving in circles for an hour
Why are Americans like this?
Anonymous No.28614762 [Report] >>28616333
>>28614385
>Nah, euros just won't let a chance to feed their ego and claim superiority over others.
meanwhile Americans invent their own sports that are only played there so they can claim to be world champions are everything
Anonymous No.28614794 [Report] >>28614934 >>28616600
>>28609416
No. 4x4 is mechanical and power goes from the engine to both the rear and front differential via the transfer case. 4x4 doesn't automatically have diff lock, but it can be added. Awd is controlled by a computer and is designed for performance in rain and snow on a regular road. No truck or SUV is AWD they are either 2wd or 4x4. 4x4 vehicles are lifted so that the transfer case and front diff can fit under the frame, they are defacto designed for off road use unlike a Subaru that is 4 inches off the ground.
>>28609656
And when someone with awd hits a bad sand patch and gets stuck, rescue crews have to out and get them. A lifted 4x4 would simply fair better and there is no reason to allow awd cars on that road if they're just going to get stuck.
>>28609597
You are a lowley caretaker, we are the owners and masters of our domain. The kumbya we all live in a society bullshit is for the birds. The tweakers and migrents should have no access to private property.
Anonymous No.28614934 [Report] >>28614975
>>28614794
Retard
Anonymous No.28614975 [Report] >>28615018
>>28614934
Plese post specifically what you disagree with on anons post, im curious.
Anonymous No.28615018 [Report] >>28615036 >>28615228
>>28614975
>4x4 is mechanical and power goes from the engine to both the rear and front differential via the transfer case. 4x4 doesn't automatically have diff lock, but it can be added. Awd is controlled by a computer
>4x4 vehicles are lifted so that the transfer case and front diff can fit under the frame
Cars usually called AWD often have transfer cases too, a lot of them doesn't have the computer controlling the transfer of power, yet they suck at offroading.
SUVs and trucks with what's usually called 4x4 might not have a frame at all (and even when they do, they might have a low-hanging transfer case like some Opels/Isuzus), they rarely have real diff locks installed (and usually only in the rear).
>No truck or SUV is AWD they are either 2wd or 4x4.
is also false. Some of them have center differential, technically making them alike to earlier Subarus (or other AWD cars with three diffs) while it's unlocked. Some of them have computer-controlled systems engaging and disengaging one of the axles (fully or partially) without driver's intervention.
>a Subaru that is 4 inches off the ground.
Also false. It's funny, I googled some random year Forester and it gave me 7.5 to 7.9 inches of ground clearance, and 8.2 to 9.4 for the same year F-150.

The only thing he got right is the idea that proper offroaders are geometrically different from cars and most cuckovers, however, he used the wrong word ("lifted") for it. I mean it is hard to make this distinction. I know of one system that classifies the vehicle legally an "offroader" (belonging to M1G or N1G category for lighter vehicles) but I think the exact classifying criteria are slightly different in every country using the system.
Anonymous No.28615036 [Report]
>>28615018
A bit more regarding the
>system that classifies the vehicle legally an "offroader" (belonging to M1G or N1G category for lighter vehicles)

M1 and N1 are basically "passenger cars" and "light trucks", so if the vehicle belongs to M1G it means it's a car/SUV (not a light truck) and it is offroad-capable. The sauce is here, page 55 of the English version: https ://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A01970L0156-20070712
Anonymous No.28615049 [Report]
>>28614732
It's unfortunate that Europeans can't afford real tracks.
Anonymous No.28615228 [Report] >>28615304 >>28615334 >>28615504
>>28615018
>Cars usually called AWD often have transfer cases too
No AWD car has a transfer case. AWD vehicles have center differentials which do not operate like a 4WD transfer case.
>SUVs and trucks with what's usually called 4x4 might not have a frame at all
All trucks are body on frame, and the large SUV's like tahoes, expeditions, excursions are too. If it isn't body on frame it isn't a light truck/ large suv. All of said SUVs and trucks are 2wd or 4x4 only. There are no AWD options. The only ones that come with AWD either aren't trucks to begin with like the maverick, or are EVs. I should have made the distinction between 4 door shitboxes that fall under light/small SUV, and large SUV's like 4runners and excursions. Crossover CUVs aren't SUVs.
>......Some of them have computer-controlled systems
There isn't a single truck with a center differential. Some trucks/SUVs have ESOF, or ford's auto 4x4 engage, but that isn't awd.
>used the wrong word ("lifted")
Lifted is the correct term. Every shop and driver across the US understand the distinction.
Anonymous No.28615304 [Report]
>>28615228
Oh, that's the retard again.
>No AWD car has a transfer case.
See pic
>All trucks are body on frame
Wrong, I mean how can you miss the Maverick or Ridgeline spam on this fucking board?
> and the large SUV's like tahoes, expeditions, excursions are too
What about SUVs like 90s-2000s Jeeps (except Wrangler) or two last gens of Pajero/Montero/Shogun? Proper offroaders yet unibody.
> If it isn't body on frame it isn't a light truck/ large suv.
Retard
>All of said SUVs and trucks are 2wd or 4x4 only.
Retard
>There are no AWD options.
Double retard
>either aren't trucks to begin with
Not for you to decide, sorry
>There isn't a single truck with a center differential.
H2 and H3 SUT, probably some Toyotas if you want a truck not an SUV specifically. A number of US GM half-ton offerings with BW 4482 too (google it dipshit): has low range and diff lock, so it's "proper" and not like the stuff found in Escalades. Anything with 242 transfer case (google it too, it's the most famous one)
>Some trucks/SUVs have ESOF, or ford's auto 4x4 engage
Not some, most of them, and technically its on-demand operation is similar to the bullshit found in cars, albeit in cars it's usually the rear axle that gets engaged when the front slips.
>Lifted is the correct term. Every shop and driver across the US understand the distinction.
"Lifted" means modified beyond factory specifications, not something we were talking about.
Anonymous No.28615334 [Report] >>28615681
>>28615228
Yukons commonly have AWD.
Anonymous No.28615504 [Report]
>>28615228
>No AWD car has a transfer case. AWD vehicles have center differentials which do not operate like a 4WD transfer case.
The GR Yaris/Corolla drivetrain has a transfer case and no center diff but people usually call it AWD.
The real difference is the style of the car. You could have the exact same drivetrain, once in a sedan, once in an SUV, and people would probably call it AWD in the former and 4WD in the latter.
Anonymous No.28615648 [Report]
>>28614385
AHAHAHAHAH LOOK AT THIS SHIT
p No.28615681 [Report] >>28615683
>>28615334
AWD and 4x4 are the same thing.

The vast majority of consumers are beyond gullible to marketing.
Anonymous No.28615683 [Report] >>28615689
>>28615681
Please.make a new thread with that post.
p No.28615689 [Report]
>>28615683
i retired from sh8tposting like 3 years ago
Anonymous No.28615889 [Report]
>>28609329
it's because they don't want to spend 6 million dollars fishing your retarded corpse out of the desert after your shitheap crossover splits its oil pan on a pebble 50 miles from the nearest cell tower.
Anonymous No.28615890 [Report]
>>28609597
meanwhile your King owns half the land in the country and laughs at you for thinking freedom=the government giving you stuff
Anonymous No.28615892 [Report]
>>28611586
they don't bother because all of five people live in that entire county and you're genuinely the first person to go down that road in a month
Anonymous No.28615893 [Report] >>28615906
>>28614732
we understand that racing is a spectator sport for Kings.
Anonymous No.28615906 [Report]
>>28615893
motorcycle chariot racing should be an olympic sport
Anonymous No.28616041 [Report]
>>28609329
As opposed to your freedom to get arrested for mean tweets and Facebook posts about rapefugees?
Anonymous No.28616333 [Report]
>>28608717 (OP)
Nah, I'd love to do some riding there while having a great open view like that.
>>28614385
Maybe euros have a big ego there, but they
really are the superior drivers. Also vidrel you posted looks very fun for the driver, but it also is an example of why your motor sports suck- you run them as actual businesses and not legitimate organisations without an incentive of profit. At least you can somewhat overcome the quality issue with stuff like team sports by throwing enough money at it.
>>28614762
Aaaand this fake 'world' championship shit is the nail in the coffin for any remaining credibility
Anonymous No.28616430 [Report]
>>28609032
You gotta come out west.
Anonymous No.28616600 [Report]
>>28614794
>Awd is controlled by a computer
You have no idea what you're talking about.