Thread 28611866

All new Clio revealed.

What do we think?

Does a grocery getter really need those alloys? Just makes the tires more expensive.

>>28611866 (OP)
Fat, but not totally horrible. My verdict is neutral.

Is the front supposed to resemble a 2CV?

>>28611866 (OP)
Absolutely fucking awful
Literal Chinese-design-tier. 0 design cues linking it to the current Renault cars (maybe the rear light are Renault-y somehow), incoherent overdesigned overaggressive front, LOGO™ plastered all over the (fake) (plastic) grille, plastic wheel arches
>>28611878
Genuinely wtf were they thinking? How can they produce the new 5 and 4L which are decent retro designs (by today's standards), and come up with this?

>>28611899
Uggggg guhhh Hhhuhhghh sorry I had to make vomit

>>28611874
The best part about that dashboard is the button you can configure to turn off all the EU-mandated nannies with a single press.

>>28611866 (OP)
Much better than before but it doesn't look like a clio anymore.

But yeah otherwise, Renault is on a roll lately. the last european company that still tries.

>>28611899
You could probably reduce the grille area to 1/3 and the car would work just as good in white countries.
Maybe even better during the colder parts of the year. People here sometimes block those retarded grilles to make the car warm up faster.

Looks like a shit Maserati. Ford did the stolen Aston look way better

>>28611890
100% agree.
The last Clio was the bland, middle of the road option you can rebadge if necessary, and it was very succesful because of that. Why did they decide to make it look like a chinese mashup of the current Peugeot and Alfa Romeo models?
It's just SO incoherent everywhere

>>28611866 (OP)
>black plastic wheelarches on a car that's not a crossover

>>28611925
Because peugeots and alfas looked better.
Nu-clios after Clio 3 all look retarded. Like legit down syndrome retarded.

>>28611866 (OP)
ugly front

>>28611866 (OP)
Not ugly per se but if it didn't have a Renault badge I probably wouldn't have guessed. I'd have said next gen Citroen C3. It looks okayish, just not like a Renault.

>>28611928
Not eve nmatte plastic. It's just supposed to make the wheels appear bigger. In the business we call that cringe.

>>28611939
doesn't matter
it legits makes the car look better
plus it protects it from corrosion

dear Lord from the specs, interior and exterior i like it way more than i think i would've

>>28611928
look at it, anon
it's more cuckover than hatchback at this point

>>28611928
>oh you didn't want a crossover and wanted a car without bloated body, lifted suspension and black plastic cladding?
>well fuck you, have black plastic cladding anyway

>>28611976
>oh so you wanted no clearance and rust everywhere?
>sorry, not on my watch lil bro
Based Renault.

>>28611939
I think these arches are meant to hide how tall and stubby these modern subcompacts are getting

>>28611866 (OP)
Hideous

not a banger compared to R5

>>28611890
what is baffling is that the current facelifted renault clio is a pretty good looking car in the genre

While Renaults some new designs are pretty spiffy, the model line is a mess.

In the small car category you have
> Clio
> Captur
> Renault 5
> Renault 4
> Symbioz
> Nu-Twingo (Coming when?)

In the midsize category you have
> Arkana
> Megane
> Scenic
> Rafale
> Austral
> Espace

Just too many cars too similar in size. Same thing with Peugeot-Citroen having six small cars and 11 midsizes (308, 3008, 408, 508, 5008, C4, C5X, C5, C5 Aircross, DS4, DS7). Albeit midsize bloat is worst at VAG.

imo it should have looked more like ibiza and less like an suv

>>28612021
They all have different propulsions. Some are EV-only, others are (various) hybrids.

>>28612009
>the current facelifted renault clio is a pretty good looking car
Not really.

>>28611866 (OP)
Honestly looks more like a Megane than a Clio to me

Looks like a retarded ZC33S

>>28612060
well they killed the megane so it is actually something between a B and a C car

>>28612021
>Clio
medium hatchback
>> Captur
small suv
>> Renault 5
medium electric hatchback
>> Renault 4
small electric suv
>> Symbioz
medium suv
>> Nu-Twingo (Coming when?)
small electric hatchback (probably)
>> Arkana
medium coupe suv
>> Megane
medium electric suv
>> Scenic
big electric suv
>> Rafale
big coupe suv
>> Austral
big suv
>> Espace
also big suv

I find it pretty ridiculous, especially when you consider that they are all based on the same 2-3 platforms at most, but it looks like it's working out for them so whatever

>>28611983
>no clearance
I don't live in a pothole shithole
>rust
Only an issue in nu-cars because manufacturers are cheaping out on paint and galvanization. An Audi 80 or 100 won't rust to this very day if it wasn't crashed and cheaply welded and painted by some polack in a shed.

I think its super angry about so mething.

>>28612072
It's actually because EU regulations limited the amount of heavy metals (like zinc) manufacturers are allowed to use, because muh environment

Posting GOAT Clio to redeem this shit

>>28612092
This is the second ugliest clio iteration after pic related.

>>28612092
>GOAT Clio
>not williams
well, you tried

>>28611866 (OP)
Not my Clio

>>28612094

There are only two other contenders for best Clio, the Williams or the V6

>>28612105

The Williams is cool as per >>28612107
but the ph1 just outperforms it

>>28611871
How do alloys affect the price of the tires?

Why is everything horrible
I don't get it

>>28612128
Tires with that ridiculous profile can easily be twice as expensive.

>>28612089
Cost cutting is a much bigger factor than regulations, since around the beginning of chink flu, nu-cars have much thinner paint coats to the point where VWs from circa 2019 are rusting under the paint chips on the hood. Some nu-cars are not even painted under the body panels from the factory.

>>28612210
The B3/B4, C3/C4 and D1 platform Audis hardly ever rust specifically because they used an ultra-thick galvanized coating, B5 A4s and up were still galvanized but aren't as durable because that's when the enviro-regs came into effect
Not surprising to hear rustproofing has gone further downhill since then though

>>28612210
i dont think thats true pretty much all new cars are dipped so even if theres no body color theres still paint there

>great exterior
>fantastic interior
>ICE, great specs overall

Renault is on fire. Great. Fucking. Job. My next car.

>>28612214
They do rust, but only the front fenders due to foam between the fender and lining getting soaked and never drying out, and also at the bottom of the doors, but only on the later models, but even that can mitigated by removing them and cleaning all the junk inside.

Overall, these cars are the most rust-proof AND solid german cars from the 80's/90's you can buy and sometimes for very little money when you find a good deal.

God why can't they just make a simple looking affordable car

>>28612009
It looked better before the facelift. That just looks too busy, too much detail.

>>28614743
>looks too busy
this is now a problem with every single renault car

>>28614720
man. that widowmaker jack...

looks like a seat

>>28614750
Looks like a Seat x Ford x Mazda

>>28611908
You can thank Dacia engineers for that, they came up with it.
>>28611866 (OP)
Checked, its a small entry-level car tht looks good but i like the previous gen's front a lot more. The interior is not obnoxiously "high tech tesla clone with a billion touch screens" but i wonder if the steering wheel buttons are as bad as the vw touch buttons.

>>28614749
that's what the block of wood is for

>>28612064
I hate nu-Renault so much it's unreal

>>28611866 (OP)
>>28611898

>>28615214
the caca de perro is everywhere

>>28612067
You are wrong electric 4 is bigger than 5 do why did you categorised 5 as medium and 4 as small. Also Clio is not medium, it's small, it's significantly smaller than Megane

>>28616118
in my mind medium hatchback = small suv in terms of size
like the captur is a lifted clio
i'd call the twingo a small hatchback (along with the vw up, fiat 500 and that sort of stuff)

I can't tell if it is still a Hatchback or a "compact SUV"

Where's the RS? I miss these little bastards.

>>28616620
Quite a few Euro "crossovers" are basically just slightly taller compact or even subcompact hatchbacks.
At least this one is slightly less ugly than a Toyota Yaris Cross or something.

>>28612033
Wait seat is back? I thought that they rebranded to Cupra

>>28617808
Seat never left, they just rebranded their 'performance' cars to a new company called 'Cupra'. Kinda like AMG with Mercedes, Acura with Honda, etc etc

>>28616625
Renault Sport was killed in 2021 to prop up Alpine

>>28616620
There's no difference, most "SUVs" are just hatchbacks/wagons/minivans with better marketing behind

>>28611947
>plus it protects it from corrosion

>>28614739
Because normies, especially w*men, wouldn't buy something that isn't gaudy and gay. Anons here keep forgetting they're not the target audience but the mindless zombies who absolutely don't give a fuck about a car outside of it's badge and that's a maybe.

I hate that on the face screen.
>full hybrid
The R version may have weird weight balance

Test

>>28611866 (OP)
It looks Chinese.

>>28617832
It's more than that, the overwhelming majority of new car buyers won't buy an used car, and will settle for anything as long as it's brand new, thus manufacturers can simply just do whatever makes them the most money (hatchbacks with plastic cladding to be rebranded as "SUVs/Crossovers) because they know everyone will just eat it up

>>28617844
It looks as french as you can get. Designed by a french guy. It's basically a less ugly version of the Peugeot 208.

>>28611866 (OP)
its okay, but i mean it get fucking out-designed by a chinkmobile so eh

>>28617922
If there's one car that has a worse reputation for reliability than French crap, it's MG.
The latest one currently has the Euro NCAP scratching their heads trying to figure out what to do after the MG 3 failed the collision test in a way never seen since Euro NCAP was founded in 1997 (the driver's seat came off its mountings in the frontal collision test and crushed the dummy's legs).

>>28617929
you know its fucking bad when MG is fucking flunking but BYD is fucking owning the euro NCAP like how the fuck is MG failing so bad?

>>28617930
Well, MG's very much a value brand and part of SAIC, which is directly owned and run by the Chinese state. They're pretty cheaply made and make basically no profit in China. The EU's slapped a 38% tariff on SAIC and MG for government-subsidized dumping, but it hasn't quite stopped them yet.
BYD's largely a private company, as far as that's possible in China, and makes relatively premium products. Maybe they put just a bit more effort into their cars.

>>28612007
I swear why dont they make a fuel version o and or one whichbis far less complicated (less electronics)

>>28617994
It's far more complicated since you need a gearbox.
Plus if you want a small ICE renault you always have the Clio.
ICE in France is a dead meme, unironically.

>>28618030
Their car adverts literally have to promote cycling by law, it's really bad there.

>>28612007
pfhuh
regard: a true banger

>>28620535
when are they revealing the production model anyway? we know that the prototypes are already rollin' around

>>28620542
afaik 2026
But that's like three months away and we've heard nothing, so unlikely that it'll be a Q1 release.
I'm not even in the market for this car, especially not buying new; but every time Iook at the concept shots it makes me reconsider

>>28611866 (OP)
>Looks like a Seat
Nope

>>28611866 (OP)
>Dinky little .9L diesel
>Lamborghini styling
fucking lel

>>28611899
that salesman is weeping from its ugliness, his family will go hungry

>>28621070
>Dinky little .9L diesel
Do they still make those?

The current Clio's 1.6 L "E-Tech Full Hybrid 145 " powertrain is supposedly pretty decent, though I don't think it's quite on the level of Toyota's hybrid tech in refinement.
I've seen more than one review mention that sometimes the hybrid gearbox just doesn't react fast enough, leaving the car without acceleration or the engine screaming at high RPMs.

>>28620556
Looks like it's taller and the upper cabin is wider?

>>28621070
I don't think that .9l diesel was ever a thing. The diesel was 1.5 and new Clio seems to come only with a new 1.8 full hybrid system.

>>28622146
>new Clio seems to come only with a new 1.8 full hybrid system.
- Full hybrid E-Tech 160 ch
- Gas TCe 115 ch
- LPG Eco-G 120 ch