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Anonymous No.28614134 [Report] >>28614144 >>28614159 >>28614172 >>28614255 >>28614267 >>28614369 >>28614806 >>28614811 >>28615238
Group B was fucking insane, possibly even borderline criminal. Holy shit.
Anonymous No.28614143 [Report] >>28614169 >>28616127 >>28616399
>reddit
Anonymous No.28614144 [Report] >>28614147 >>28614534 >>28614648
>>28614134 (OP)
honestly I don't get why people that go to rally events insist on getting in the way.
Anonymous No.28614147 [Report] >>28614167 >>28617190 >>28618612
>>28614144
they dont any more because people got killed doing it
Anonymous No.28614150 [Report] >>28614270
>RS3, and thus the 5 cylinder, dead in 2027
there's a C4 S4 near me on marketplace...
Anonymous No.28614159 [Report]
>>28614134 (OP)
i witness one of these events in the 80s
Anonymous No.28614167 [Report] >>28614170 >>28614176 >>28614236 >>28614523 >>28614642 >>28615076 >>28615247 >>28617880 >>28621435
>>28614147
why the fuck did they even do it to begin with? was it some psychotic train dodge fantasy?
Anonymous No.28614169 [Report] >>28616399
>>28614143
FPBP
Anonymous No.28614170 [Report] >>28617250
>>28614167
it's because in person, rally events are really, really fucking boring, so people stood in the way so they could see further down the road in hopes of seeing more than .3 seconds of action.
Anonymous No.28614172 [Report] >>28614364
>>28614134 (OP)
Slow and overrated.
Anonymous No.28614176 [Report] >>28614184
>>28614167
they just really wanted to be as close to the cool shit as possible, so kinda yeah
rally racing is one of the only major competitive events where there is basically no distance between spectator and the competition
Anonymous No.28614184 [Report] >>28614255
>>28614176
In 2011, the Reno Air Races were just like that too.
Anonymous No.28614236 [Report] >>28614239 >>28614249 >>28614639
>>28614167
also because in the 80s no one had cell phones and the tracks were miles and miles long so thousands of people gathered in specific spots, making viewing impossible unless you were right up in the road
Anonymous No.28614239 [Report] >>28614249
>>28614236
>in the 80s no one had cell phones
smart phones
(rich) people in the 80s did have cell phones
Anonymous No.28614249 [Report] >>28614540 >>28617110
>>28614236
>>28614239
Doubt it matters when there's no reception anyway.
Anonymous No.28614255 [Report] >>28614653
>>28614134 (OP)
Meh it was a meme. You still see the same shit today at the Baja. Dumb Mexicans laying in the middle of the road and crowding the sides like that as 7000lb trucks fly over whoops at 120+mph.

>>28614184
Based boomer pilot chad taking out cripples. Yooouuuu don't need to worry about reusing non-reusable fasteners lol.
Anonymous No.28614267 [Report]
>>28614134 (OP)
yup and now wrc is boring as fuck
Anonymous No.28614270 [Report]
>>28614150
aren't they throwing that engine in the next golf r? better than nothing I guess
Anonymous No.28614364 [Report] >>28616216
>>28614172
>Slow

You know nothing about rally then
p No.28614369 [Report] >>28614523
>>28614134 (OP)
cars and people were so ugly back then
Anonymous No.28614523 [Report]
>>28614167
nerve gas
>>28614369
People back then were ugly but got the job done
Anonymous No.28614534 [Report]
>>28614144
I always wondered how much people get beaten with the gravel kicked up by the cars.
That has to have hospitalized somebody
Anonymous No.28614540 [Report]
>>28614249
The old brick phones were huge because they had to use a long distance antenna, as well as a large battery to support it.
You probably got better reception than a smartphone would
Anonymous No.28614639 [Report] >>28615043
>>28614236
>in the 80s no one had cell phones
Anonymous No.28614642 [Report] >>28614808 >>28615813 >>28617721
>>28614167
The ultimate group b viewing experience
Anonymous No.28614648 [Report]
>>28614144
Photographers and journalists wanting to get the perfect picture so they sell more newspapers/magazines
Anonymous No.28614653 [Report] >>28614660
>>28614255
so you're telling me I should go see the baja rally?
Anonymous No.28614660 [Report] >>28614679 >>28614744
>>28614653
Yeah. Rally is kind of gay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnAxR9uVpZA
Anonymous No.28614679 [Report] >>28614760
>>28614660
I only wish it was half as interesting as the Dakar rally.
Anonymous No.28614686 [Report]
Thirdies ruined Group B.
Anonymous No.28614744 [Report] >>28614760
>>28614660
Why do Americans obsess with removing the driving out of all motorsports? They're just going in a straight line.
Anonymous No.28614760 [Report] >>28615070
>>28614744
>Why does a 1000km rally on Mexico across the desert have a straight section
>Fucking Americans
European moment lmao.

>>28614679
Dakar hasn't been good since it left Africa desu. I'll admit the South American route was badass but it wasn't dakar. The Saudi route through literally nothing the entire course with no variation? It fucking sucks.
Anonymous No.28614806 [Report]
>>28614134 (OP)
Those were the days. The golden era of motorsports
Anonymous No.28614808 [Report]
>>28614642
"scusa"
Anonymous No.28614811 [Report]
>>28614134 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rRyvrPzz3k
Anonymous No.28615043 [Report] >>28615079
>>28614639
*camera phones, asshole
the point is viewing was limited, you couldn't pull out a phone and watch the whole race from a drone's perspective. you either shoved your way to the road and saw 5 seconds of action or you didn't see shit at all
Anonymous No.28615070 [Report] >>28615094 >>28615167
>>28614760
>European moment lmao.
No, I'm familiar with the Baja and other trophy truck shit. There's simply very little actual driving involved, that's a fact. Rallying is about the art of driving perfected, whereas the American "equivalent" tries to remove that factor as much as possible, as with most American motorsports. American car culture is about being seen in a particular vehicle, while European car culture is about using said vehicle. It's a fundamental difference.
Anonymous No.28615076 [Report]
>>28614167
Lead in the air and water supply.
Anonymous No.28615079 [Report] >>28615092
>>28615043
>the point is viewing was limited, you couldn't pull out a phone and watch the whole race from a drone's perspective. you either shoved your way to the road and saw 5 seconds of action or you didn't see shit at all
What about finding a good elevated spot and optionally bringing a binoculars? I remember watching special stages in Europe like that, I think I had like a kilometer of the track in my field of view.
Anonymous No.28615092 [Report] >>28615113
>>28615079
>a good elevated spot and optionally bringing a binoculars
I wasn't there so I can't speak from experience, but from the races I've watch the largest crowds tend to block elevated viewing, or the crowds are gathered in places where there arent hills nearby by
Anonymous No.28615094 [Report]
>>28615070
>baja, mexico
>americans
Anonymous No.28615113 [Report] >>28615169
>>28615092
It happened in the mountains so I was like dozens of meters elevated.
Nevertheless, if the orgs had wanted for the events to be viewable directly they would have erected the seating/stands for the public while routing more of the track around these stands.
Anonymous No.28615167 [Report]
>>28615070
>American car culture is about being seen in a particular vehicle
Only true statement youve made.
Anonymous No.28615169 [Report] >>28615189 >>28618585
>>28615113
How would you even go about erecting stands for a 7 mile long track? I suppose they could have picked the best spots along the way and built bleachers, sold those seats at a premium and made extra bank
Anonymous No.28615189 [Report] >>28618585
>>28615169
They choose what roads to use for the special stage, they even choose start and finish (could be right next to each other if they want to) so if there exists a vantage point and say 2 of those 7 km are somewhat viewable from it, it's a good place for the stands. Won't work for all biomes though, forest covers stuff pretty well, for example.
Anonymous No.28615238 [Report] >>28615827
>>28614134 (OP)
this is why we need third worlders, for this whacky shit that has no regard for human life
but they need to extensively film it for me
Anonymous No.28615247 [Report]
>>28614167
Life was very different regarding safety before 9/11, it was even more insane in the 80's.
Anonymous No.28615813 [Report]
>>28614642
Anonymous No.28615827 [Report]
>>28615238
>9/11 is why people stopped standing in front of moving cars!
The fuck are you talking about you schizo
Anonymous No.28616127 [Report] >>28616399 >>28617373
>>28614143
you're right, this post screams redditor but, I can't put my finger on exactly why
Anonymous No.28616216 [Report] >>28616767 >>28617054
>>28614364
Nah, anon, other way around
Group a was faster than b on the same stages, and cars past 2008ish are rocketships compared to b
This is a fact
Anonymous No.28616399 [Report] >>28616445 >>28617203
>>28614143
>>28614169
>>28616127
Anonymous No.28616445 [Report]
>>28616399
>imgur logo
Anonymous No.28616767 [Report] >>28617015 >>28617025
>>28616216
This is only because of tires, put modern tires on Group B 800 hp monsters and they'll be faster
Anonymous No.28617015 [Report]
>>28616767
it was perfect how it was.
Anonymous No.28617025 [Report] >>28617031 >>28617140 >>28617452 >>28619017
>>28616767
It's not just the tires. Gr.B suspension was terrible. The power was peaky and laggy. The chassis' were floppy and shitty. The H pattern gearboxes had nothing on a modern sequential. The AWD systems were also super privative and were barely a step up from a truck running in 4x4. Watch some hillclimb races if you want to see vintage rally cars compete against modern rally cars. Even with modern tires there's a massive difference in performance.
Anonymous No.28617031 [Report]
>>28617025
Which all were the best technical decisions to be made at the time though. This was also the same time frame where AWD and turbine supercharging were put on the map in major implementations in the first place, and group B rally was a big part of that.
Group S would have been even crazier, but we were denied greatness.
Anonymous No.28617054 [Report] >>28617146
>>28616216
When they pulled the plug on Group B rally fans left in droves.
Nobody wanted to see warmed over road cars race.
Rally nearly died on its ass that day. People were worried.
Anonymous No.28617110 [Report]
>>28614249
They were actually analog antennas more akin to radios, not satellite-linked towers broadcasting a frequency for a handheld device to tap into. They were decent range, poorer quality maybe, but you can actually make out garbled words in static as opposed to cell phones digital signal which just cuts out sporadically. We'll all be fucking telepathic robot-mindslaves soon; so absolutely none of this shit matters anyways.

But yeah Rally racing. Fucking cool.
Anonymous No.28617140 [Report] >>28617151 >>28617365 >>28617600
>>28617025
So, what you're saying is that group b is far more interesting because the drivers had to be that much better to control and drive as quick as they could in those cars.
Anonymous No.28617144 [Report] >>28617148
Rule 1


Pinched off an auction site.
Anonymous No.28617146 [Report]
The car has nothing to do with walking on the road

>>28617054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNDqJMTpnjk#t=1m30s
Anonymous No.28617148 [Report] >>28617171
>>28617144
i really wish this would be enforced more in more places outside of rallying, so every time some retard hurts or kills themselves doing something stupid we can just point to this sign when they or bleeding hearts-kind of people bitch and moan
Anonymous No.28617151 [Report] >>28617172 >>28617175 >>28617600
>>28617140
You can go with that if you want. But by that logic Group B is still unimpressive compared to this.
Anonymous No.28617171 [Report] >>28617187
>>28617148
That is generic in the UK, tickets used to have it printed on the back. I'm going to say so it could be found on your corpse but I wont.
Anonymous No.28617172 [Report] >>28617178 >>28617574 >>28617600
>>28617151
I can dig it. Looks awesome.

Driver quality has plummeted over the decades. Cars are too safe and are easier to drive.
The 80s and early 90s were that peak just before safety regs and over engineering. Same with F1. Gay as fuck now.
Anonymous No.28617175 [Report]
>>28617151
Now then, the issue with Group B and the comparison to this is you have your nignogs behind barriers not standing where your blind left jump will land.
People don't stand on the finish line of drag races waiting to touch the car.
Anonymous No.28617178 [Report] >>28617185 >>28617191 >>28617600
>>28617172
I kinda get what youre saying. But it's probably not so much driver quality, but just a lack of character from over-regulation.

I mean, you'll never see pic related today in a FIA motorsport.
Anonymous No.28617185 [Report] >>28617186 >>28618606
>>28617178
Timo was peak performance.
Driving a AWD, 500+HP car with no power steering that weighed roughly 2000lb with one hand on the wheel and the other resting on the shifter.
Anonymous No.28617186 [Report]
>>28617185
You don't need power steering if your car is 2000lbs
Anonymous No.28617187 [Report]
>>28617171
im in aus and all the good and fun shit is all closed because of this stupid "we must protect people from themselves" approach to everything. there are no more self-serve junkyards in nsw now because public liability insurance is too expensive
Anonymous No.28617190 [Report] >>28617195
>>28614147
There are people who work hard and try to keep the group b era alive in the ways that matter most.
Anonymous No.28617191 [Report]
>>28617178
That's because you're all a bunch of gay boys.

Elfinsafety, yes, that must be the reason.
Anonymous No.28617195 [Report] >>28618612
>>28617190
A Lancia doing what it does best.
Anonymous No.28617203 [Report]
>>28616399
>rewatch MXC a few years ago
>bust gut laughing after picking up on all the jokes
The early 2000s were fucking wild.
Anonymous No.28617250 [Report] >>28617268
>>28614170
I’ve always thought racing must be super boring in person. On a circuit you’d get to see like 3 turns max being taken over and over. NASCAR and other circle track racing makes a lot more sense when you think about being there in person.
Anonymous No.28617268 [Report]
>>28617250
There are some road citcuits particularly short ones where you can see two thirds of the circuit. Rally is Blam and they're gone unless
rallycross >28617172 where it is a multi surcace closed circuit.
Anonymous No.28617365 [Report] >>28617367 >>28617379 >>28617414 >>28617600 >>28617829 >>28619017 >>28619046
>>28617140
The reality is that they usually didn't drive quick. They mostly were well below the limit because the cars would just be rattled to pieces if they actually pushed anyway. The "hard" part was choosing when to push and how hard, and the answer was rarely and not very.
If you watch Group B footage that isn't just the cherrypicked highlights, you'll see that they almost never used all of the road in the corners, and generally didn't attack them properly unless it was clearly safe and low-impact to do so. Later period drivers were more aggressive and modern drivers are driving twice as fast and need to be far more aggressive in order to merely be semi-competitive.
Current era cars are difficult to drive. They banned all of the helpful tech that they had in the '90s and 00's. Not even the top class gets center diffs.

Everyone who hypes Group B has never watched anything past some shitty highlight reels on Youtube.
Anonymous No.28617367 [Report]
>>28617365
People always go on about "muh horsepower, muh lightness" but all that meant was that drivers just didn't floor the gas pedal and the sub-300hp Delta Integrale Group A ended up being faster in terms of actual stage times than the Delta S4.
Anonymous No.28617373 [Report]
>>28616127
people going soi over the same 5 clips of group b clips for the last god knows how many years. like we get it, WE GET IT, OK.
Anonymous No.28617379 [Report] >>28617397
>>28617365
>Not even the top class gets center diffs.
Please elaborate.
Anonymous No.28617397 [Report] >>28617415 >>28617471
>>28617379
Rally1 cars only have a front and rear diff, and they're both mechanical LSDs. The fanciest thing they do is disconnect the rear axle when doing handbrake turns.
Anonymous No.28617414 [Report] >>28617419
>>28617365
I know that's not true because I can quote interviews from Walter Rohrl and Ari Vatanen about pushing the cars and themselves to their limits. Walter was actually more reserved of the two. However, Ari would gamble and push his car even harder than everyone else. Sometimes it paid off like the incredible 1985 monte carlo feat (which still remains one of the greatest rally comebacks), other times it wouldn't pay off and he'd crash the car. He eventually put himself in the hospital with his aggressive driving.

Also, out of the cars, the Lancia delta was the most likely to shake itself apart. The others had more rigidity. The stretched 205 (also with Ari) went on to do Dakar and other rally raids. That's ~15 days of rallying with the same car. They can fix the broken bits at night, but not rebuild the whole car.
Anonymous No.28617415 [Report] >>28617829
>>28617397
For comparison's sake, cars in the early 00's up until 2006 were allowed ABS, traction control, active front, center and rear diffs, active suspension and electronic ride height control. Modern cars are completely raw by comparison.
Anonymous No.28617419 [Report]
>>28617414
Pushing as hard as Ari would be seen as extremely conservative driving by modern standards. Everyone pushes harder, they have to because it's become so much more competitive and the standards are far harder.
>He eventually put himself in the hospital with his aggressive driving.
Very revealing sentence. Anyone who actually follows rallying knows that isn't anything special by modern standards.
All Group B hype is built on complete ignorance of what came after.
Anonymous No.28617452 [Report] >>28617578
>>28617025
>gay guys in robot cars that drive themselves is better than shitbox cars at the limit
you probably like modern F1 also fag
Anonymous No.28617471 [Report] >>28617506
>>28617397
So basically the front and the rear (before diff action) rotate at the same speed at all times (except while using the handbrake)? How do they turn?
Anonymous No.28617506 [Report] >>28617650
>>28617471
>So basically the front and the rear (before diff action) rotate at the same speed at all times (except while using the handbrake)?
Pretty much
>How do they turn?
With a fair bit more difficulty than the prior (2017-2021) regs. It's not as bad as you might think though. Rally2 cars and the 2011-16 WRCars also lacked them.
Anonymous No.28617574 [Report]
>>28617172
Cars should be hard to drive to require skill, but they also should be safe so that drivers aren't afraid to go balls out
Anonymous No.28617578 [Report]
>>28617452
>gay guys in robot cars that drive themselves
If they "drive themselves" then surely you could hop in one and perform just like these drivers, no?
>shitbox cars at the limit
Oh, please, late Group B cars were all tube frame prototypes made from spaceship materials
Anonymous No.28617600 [Report] >>28617606 >>28617785 >>28619081
>>28617178
>>28617172
>>28617151
>>28617365
>>28617140
>carfags complaining about skill to control and drive
Cars have always been ezmode shit for women. Imagine thinking a vehicle where you can just press as hard as you can on the throttle without instantly totaling both it and yourself is hard.

IoM TT makes every carfag race irrelevant.
Anonymous No.28617606 [Report] >>28617613
>>28617600
>Imagine thinking a vehicle where you can just press as hard as you can on the throttle without instantly totaling both it and yourself is hard.

Imagine talking about how cars are easy to drive while expressing you dont understand the basics of driving a performance car

Retard
Anonymous No.28617613 [Report] >>28617619
>>28617606
>trust me bro, its totally the same, "performance" (lol) cars take loads of skill (lmao)
Anonymous No.28617619 [Report] >>28617623
>>28617613
>posts some retard fucking around on a bike in a parking lot

lmao this is like posting a skateboard kickflip

way to further demonstrate your low iq and how you dont even understand what the argument is about


heres another fun fact: cars are faster than bikes
Anonymous No.28617623 [Report] >>28617646 >>28617788
>>28617619
>incoherent shitpost
Face reality bud, bikes are infinitely harder to pilot than cars, and unlike in your cuck cages, every single fuck up is going to result in a trip to the hospital.
Anonymous No.28617646 [Report] >>28617653
>>28617623
>incoherent shitpost

of course you cant comprehend basic english, you're stupid

most more retards stunting on shitty bikes as if it means anything
Anonymous No.28617650 [Report]
>>28617506
Thanks
>prior (2017-2021) regs.
Is it possible to read somewhere about the mechanical part of the regs? I'm curious.
Anonymous No.28617653 [Report] >>28617716
>>28617646
Whatever helps you sleep at night, lass. You should go get a bike and try it yourself, when you highside your bike on a corner because you can't ride for shit, you can send it to the youtube crash compilation for our laughs. Assuming you make it to the hospital with your vitals intact anyways.
Anonymous No.28617716 [Report] >>28617723
>>28617653
Did you try it?
Anonymous No.28617721 [Report]
>>28614642
is that where mj got it?
Anonymous No.28617723 [Report] >>28617759 >>28619086
>>28617716
A highside? Thankfully not (yet), only lowsides. Heres my road rash, probably more than cagies could ever handle, would swear off bikes the very next day, kekaroni.
Anonymous No.28617759 [Report] >>28617769
>>28617723
So you have a skill issue and then act better than others
Lol
Lmao even
Anonymous No.28617761 [Report]
>bro, look at those tiktok screenshots of some faggots pretending they are hollywood stuntmen, that means i'm good
KEKAROO
Anonymous No.28617769 [Report] >>28617790 >>28617818
>>28617759
>cagie thinks you can ride without crashes if you go hard
What part of bikes actually taking skill don't you get, cagie? Pic related is one of the greatest riders in history, and hes famous for crashing multiple times a year. Every bike channel you see will have crashes on them.

Carfags don't realize they are literally playing tutorial mode on vehicles that practically drive themselves lmao.
Anonymous No.28617785 [Report] >>28617874
>>28617600
oh shut the fuck up you cringe faggot, you make us look bad.
Anonymous No.28617788 [Report] >>28617803
>>28617623
>Face reality bud, bikes are infinitely harder to pilot than cars, and unlike in your cuck cages, every single fuck up is going to result in a trip to the hospital.
no they are fucking not, the big revelation you get when riding bikes is just how EASY they are to pootle around on.
You're trying to make out that riding is some elite skill to massage your own ego and troll.
Anonymous No.28617790 [Report] >>28617935
>>28617769
>bikes are harder because motogp riders crash more
you are a fucking moron
bikes are easy

don't bother replying because I'm fucking off now anyway.

message to carfags, ignore this faggot.
Anonymous No.28617803 [Report] >>28617819
>>28617788
Nice delusions, just learning how to turn at low speeds as a beginner is 20x more effort than any carfag has had to put in. Literally just turn the wheel while comatose in your safety cage with zero other body inputs. Carfagging is so easy that they don't even have two different opposite inputs of streering at different speeds like bikes do.

The "big revelation" is realizing everything on bikes is harder, and its only more and more glaringly obvious when you start going faster and have to start dropping knees just to ride a corner. A single deep lean would make every carfar shit his pretty pants in horror when their head is placed just two foot above aphalt at 150+kmh, they have no balls. Thats why they hide in their cuckcage safety box away from any real feeling of speed.
Anonymous No.28617818 [Report]
>>28617769
t. video game enjoyer
Anonymous No.28617819 [Report] >>28617871
>>28617803
post lap times so we can laugh at you
Anonymous No.28617829 [Report] >>28617877 >>28618967
>>28617415
>>28617365


Which is the problem really. Group B was cool because it was the best men doing the best things to push the boundaries of technology at the time. That's what everyone loved to see and also what attracted more manufacturers to have a go. And if it or some otherwise like in kind had continued you'd see greater development in the same spirit.
So the problem with the 'fairness' arguments put forth by men with the souls of bureaucrats is that it is fundamentally contrary to the spirit of competition. More prosaically, when such kinds say 'if there was more open space for design one manufacturer would dominate and that is bad' it is simply a lie on multiple levels.
For starters, it has literally never happened in reality; every time there is a format with more open space for design it becomes more popular, and when designs become more predefined, both spectators and manufacturers stop caring about it.
For another, what do they even think the competition is for to begin with? They have no idea. Because it doesn't matter if nobody is dominant or if one team is perpetually dominant, because the point is showing what the best men doing the best things look like. It is the driving of techne that everyone, the broader industry, the patrons, the clients, the nation, the world in general, benefits from. The value of the competition is that which goes beyond the competition itself. And the turning of open competitions with space for distinction, into predefined theatrical rituals for the sake of equality, destroys all that value, and renders the whole effort pointless.
Anonymous No.28617871 [Report]
>>28617819
1:22 at my local track, but not doxxing myself.

And you? Let me guess, you a) are a notrack and b) are a nobike. lols
Anonymous No.28617874 [Report]
>>28617785
>us
Anonymous No.28617877 [Report] >>28617932
>>28617829
What a stupid thing to say, rally has always had rules and regulations that constrained what automakers could do, it was never a free for all do whatever type of deal.
Anonymous No.28617880 [Report]
>>28614167
Southern Europeans are weird, it can't be a coincidence the same people that insisted on keeping bullfighting and running of the bulls going well into civilized times like to play frogger with rally cars.

The further North you got the less retarded spectators were.
Anonymous No.28617932 [Report]
>>28617877
It's called a continuum stupid. The existence of any rule at all does not mean that all rules are the same.
Anonymous No.28617935 [Report] >>28618395
>>28617790
>>bikes are harder because motogp riders crash more
Yeah, literally. If they were as self driving as cars were then no one would crash at all. You carfags have no idea how tight the line is on a bike, with only two wheels all it takes is slightly rolling the throttle too early, too quickly or touching the brakes at the wrong time or too hard, and the result isn't just a lil skid like in a car, you will slide, catch grip again, and then your bike will flip you over like its a raging bull in less than a second.

Look at gif related, the difference between this happening and a clean corner is fractions of a wrist input.
Anonymous No.28618395 [Report]
>>28617935
>You carfags have no idea how tight the line is on a bike
I have an idea, that's why I'm a carfag lol
Anonymous No.28618585 [Report]
>>28615169
>>28615189
>Sell seats
>On private property
Lol
Lmao, even
Anonymous No.28618606 [Report] >>28620990 >>28621014
>>28617185
>One hand on the wheel and the other resting on the shifter
ARAÚJO onboard ESTÁDIO ALGARVE WRC Rally de Portugal 2009
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IUuBxejgoxs
Anonymous No.28618612 [Report]
>>28614147
> >>28617195
Anonymous No.28618794 [Report] >>28618799
One of the most underrated eras was the early Group A era when RWD cars had a resurgence on tarmac. Incredibly kino driving.
https://youtu.be/wwkDODWIb_o?si=W9ZI0Wg2RDShoyzz

Note that because it wasn't made of PVC pipes and arts and crafts grade fibreglass, the M3 could actually be driven aggressively at all times.
Anonymous No.28618799 [Report]
>>28618794
Thierry Neuville often drives an E30 at his local rallies
https://youtu.be/b6PziZKL21Q?si=eeKeONQD7pWDS0N9
Anonymous No.28618967 [Report] >>28618997 >>28621475
>>28617829
The real innovation came when the myopic Group B focus on power and lightness was abandoned with the advent of Group A. That's when diff, tire and suspension technology really began to take off.
Anonymous No.28618997 [Report] >>28619093
>>28618967
Hence when rally started becoming gay.
Anonymous No.28619017 [Report] >>28619037
>>28617025
>>28617365
2022 ROC Group B Audi Quattro vs the FC1-X, fastest and newest (at the time) technology in rallyx.
Quattro wins.
https://youtu.be/7IrCuER8KDk?si=VD55DIsNiLEN0g2v

The Quattro wins in 2023, too.
Anonymous No.28619037 [Report] >>28619038
>>28619017
Not this shit again.
The FC1-X not obviously not representative of a modern rally car, it's a fatass EV. To make matters worse it's on wide slicks with studs haphazardly stuck into them, while the Quattro is on actual snow tires.
Anonymous No.28619038 [Report]
>>28619037
Sounds like cope
Anonymous No.28619046 [Report] >>28620921
>>28617365
Good thing I fucking HATE highlight reels and look for onboards, but finding Group B ones is impossible. I don't need cameras changing every second, I just want to see the road from the cabin.
Shoomers™ No.28619081 [Report]
>>28617600
Youre stoopid and a 2/10 bait with apples the oranges, the wrenchlet nobike experience
Shoomers™ No.28619086 [Report] >>28619696
>>28617723
Oh its (((you))), taking your pain away by projecting it to other nobikes?
Youre a nobike just like gixxerbrah
Anonymous No.28619093 [Report]
>>28618997
>cars becomong faster is cool
>but not like this
Anonymous No.28619434 [Report]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpDlXIR2bnU
this is what they took from you
Anonymous No.28619696 [Report]
>>28619086
>Youre a nobike just like gixxerbrah
I am no bike just like the guy who... owns like 8 bikes? Lay off the tranime and /pol/ Shoomers, its rotted your quirkchungus mind.
Anonymous No.28620612 [Report] >>28620797
Anonymous No.28620613 [Report] >>28620797
Anonymous No.28620616 [Report] >>28620797
Anonymous No.28620644 [Report] >>28620682
I finally had an office job and I would just look up pictures of rally cars like lancias and opels and shit for hours when nobody was looking.
Anonymous No.28620682 [Report] >>28620803
>>28620644
I did the same.
But later I would follow entire race seasons chronologically. There's some decent channels on jewtube if you look hard enough. There's a couple good channels for the Dakar 1986-2004 too.
Anonymous No.28620797 [Report] >>28620801 >>28621437
>>28620612
>>28620613
>>28620616
do side spoilers actually work?
Anonymous No.28620801 [Report] >>28620976
>>28620797
It helps cutting through crowds.
Anonymous No.28620803 [Report] >>28620830
>>28620682
>There's some decent channels on jewtube if you look hard enough.
link?
Anonymous No.28620830 [Report] >>28620978
>>28620803
There are a lot. These are just some. Good way to search is to look up a specific rally like "1985 Monte carlo rally" then filter for >20 minutes. Many times it will be in a different language. Just auto-translate in CC settings.
Also, Eurosport did a 40-60min Dakar rally review in English for every year.

It's fun watching them all in order as if you were actually living the era.

https://youtube.com/@passatsdecanto?si=IbzrjG0ukMyPxP2J

https://youtube.com/@zsteph28?si=LbqrM59lwKiw6ugm

https://youtube.com/@vhsrallies?si=ekdyL6pahrdnBUF0

https://youtube.com/@autosportmann?si=vtVQoeA7a2VGMRu6
Anonymous No.28620921 [Report] >>28620978
>>28619046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8pqPPzOMtw
Also (not actual group b, but a classic nonetheless):
Climb dance (upscald):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSbSTaJYJmQ
Anonymous No.28620976 [Report]
>>28620801
Anonymous No.28620978 [Report] >>28620990
>>28620830
>>28620921
you're good people, anon
Anonymous No.28620990 [Report]
>>28620978
This one, too:
>>28618606
Anonymous No.28621014 [Report]
>>28618606
literally me, except the shift hand has a drink in it, the other hand is out the window, and I'm steering with my knee
Anonymous No.28621435 [Report]
>>28614167
It's like spanish bull running, but without the testicle cage.
Anonymous No.28621437 [Report]
>>28620797
when its feeding a mid engine air yeah.
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Anonymous No.28621475 [Report]
>>28618967
I think that would have naturally happened (and continued happening even moreso in various ways) anyways without such rule changes - nothing succeeds like success after all.