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Anonymous No.28617080 >>28617256 >>28617264 >>28619660 >>28619684 >>28619694 >>28619712 >>28619721 >>28619726 >>28621155 >>28621697
How do you approach buying from dealerships, /o/? Do you have any strategies you use to avoid getting ripped off?
Anonymous No.28617256
>>28617080 (OP)
Read the fine print.
That's where they get you.
Anonymous No.28617257
the real trick is to get a purchase agreement because it's ink on paper
Anonymous No.28617264
>>28617080 (OP)
I have a three-pronged strategy:
>Don't even look at a car that isn't competitively priced
>If the car has any mechanical or frame issues, even if it's just a dead battery, nope tf out
>Get it checked out by a trusted mechanic, even if just to have a second pair of eyes
Oh also if you don't know much about the car before buying it then you're a retard
Anonymous No.28619651 >>28621678
there are often three transactions depending on your situation
>trade in value
>purchase price
>financing terms
basically just make sure you negotiate each transaction independently so they don't appear to give you a break in one place then screw you in another to make up for it. them framing the purchase based on what monthly payment you can afford is a classic dealer trick to squeeze the most out of you
Anonymous No.28619660 >>28621678 >>28621684
>>28617080 (OP)

Right off rip, starting with negotiating the OTD price, and never talk about financing, trades, down payments UNTIL the OTD price is where you want it. Dealerships would juice interest, lowball trades, or inflate base price to max their profit, so don't talk about any of it until there is a signed purchase agreement.

I am in the process of buying a truck and I'm getting like more than 12% MSRP OTD offers. Depends on how hot selling the model your looking for is but it goes like this.

>go to cargurus (edmunds to good too)
>filter to what your shopping for
>find the lowest priced vehicle you like
>email them for OTD quote, ignore all their other BS questions, until you have a quote.
>Find the next lowest priced vehicle you like, show them the OTD quote from the previous dealership
>Tell them you prefer the cheaper deal, but will give them the chance to match or beat it bc like their dealership/feature/color better.
>rinse and repeat until you have jewed out every dealer in a 200 mile radius
>you now have the lowest price available.

Also, just typing in "Car Buying Tips" on YouTube helps a lot.
Anonymous No.28619684
>>28617080 (OP)
firm handshake, and make sure the salesman goes to the same church as you
Anonymous No.28619691
Pay in cash. hand them your debit card. it says on the reader how much it's charging you. and that's final. no fine print or anything.
Anonymous No.28619694 >>28619737 >>28621561
>>28617080 (OP)
>How do you approach buying from dealerships, /o/?
I avoid them.
>Do you have any strategies you use to avoid getting ripped off?
I avoid them.
Anonymous No.28619712
>>28617080 (OP)
I'd rather buy a classic car (to daily drive) sight unseen from detroit than go to a dealership because at least with the suspicious classic I don't have to be there all fucking day getting ground down by demographics I want to glass and/or gas.
Just don't anon, independent or private (or tesla, lol) is the only tolerable way
Anonymous No.28619718
The only car I bought from the dealer I just found on their website, walked in, and bought it. They were desperate to move inventory and it was already below MSRP with a lot of dealer add-ons I wanted.
Anonymous No.28619721
>>28617080 (OP)
>follow website's instructions for paying in cash
>skip market adjustment
>skip negotiation
>skip financing
>walk out the door actually owning your car
wa la
Anonymous No.28619726
>>28617080 (OP)
Negotiate the out the door price online in advanced of stepping into the dealership.
Anonymous No.28619737
>>28619694
Thanks for your valuable input, captain reddit
Anonymous No.28621137
Never buy a car on your first trip to a dealer. Always walk away and wait for them to call you. They always do.
Anonymous No.28621155
>>28617080 (OP)
FIRM HANDSHAKE
Anonymous No.28621156 >>28621678
1. Don't go on the weekend. Everyone else is there and the dealer won't feel any need to please you when there are other marks available.
2. Go near the end of the month when they are trying to make quota.
3. Don't discuss payments or financing until you have an out-the-door price in writing.
4. Don't try to do a trade-in. They will try to make you negotiate 2 deals at once, and you aren't going to come out winning. If you have an old car you want to get rid of, sell it on a different day.
5. If you're going to finance your purchase, get pre-approved by your bank first. Dealers would like to do the financing for you (because they get kick-backs). You can use this as a bargaining chip (as long as your bank is as good or better than the dealer's terms).
6. Never pay for options and add-ons you didn't ask for.
7. Research the model you want, and be sure you know about and can show what other dealers are asking for the same model.
8. If they're playing games or trying to screw you, walk away.\
9. Remember: if it's taxable, it's negotiable. You don't have to accept the asking price for anything; you can always ask them to reduce the price.
Anonymous No.28621561
>>28619694
go back bud
Anonymous No.28621678 >>28621752
>>28619651
>>28619660
>>28621156
Not OP, but what if I’m aiming for a promotional APR or are those just a total meme? Do you still negotiate step by step?
Anonymous No.28621684
>>28619660
>I am in the process of buying a truck and I'm getting like more than 12% MSRP OTD offers.
Unless you need the vehicle to commute and run errands, that's all you need to know to sit out the car market again. Everyone who is intent on buying a car right now is getting mugged on the sales floor.
Anonymous No.28621697
>>28617080 (OP)
>Do you have any strategies you use to avoid getting ripped off?
yeah I don't go to them
Anonymous No.28621752
>>28621678
don't listen to anon except on #8 and #5.
for everything else, tell the sales guy that you want to achieve X total cost with Y car. Know the car ahead of time.
Ideally, you say "Hey before I come in and waste everyone's afternoon, you have Y car on lot for Z, I want to use my trade equity and a holding deposit as a down payment and get to X per month for X months, will your boss do this deal? I can come in and sign papers on mm/dd as long as everything goes smooth"
If they ask to run credit, tell them to just build a deal out that reaches your numbers and tell you if it's possible first. Only go in-person if they say "we can do this depending on what sort of interest rate you get"
once everything is figured out, they'll run credit, come back with a number, you'll send your preapproval on credit to ask if they can do better to get financing since you just checked with bank of whothefuck since you were already going to get dinged on your report.
finally, walk in and check to make sure the papers are the same ones you signed.
>1
doesn't matter, if you go there and don't end up getting the car the same day, they will remember to hit you up later. it's a big purchase and taking time to make it is normal.
>2
see above, never assume you'll buy a car that day
>3
>4
do a little research beforehand and use that to tell the dealer what you want the transaction to look like, it's fine if they want to cook their books for a lender as long as you get what you want
>6
see above, tell them what you want the transaction to look like
>7
>if you like their car at their price so much, fuck off and go buy from them
being a PITA is a terrible way to make a deal. being upfront and sticking with that is a good way to get the deal you want. if they feel like the deal is easy but the numbers are hard, they'll still take an easy deal and work on the numbers with other deals
>9
you shouldn't need to do this if they negotiate for you down to your price