Thread 28629303

How do we feel about these illegals being caught for breaking the law?

https://patch.com/california/across-ca/speed-cameras-spread-across-ca-pilot-program-catches-400k-violations-6-months

in what way is a speed camera “successful” if it continues to print out tickets after several months of existing? seems like maybe the speed limit goes contrary to the design of the road?

>>28629309
Same way police are successful making a ton of arrests even after existing for lifetimes.

>>28629311
Beep beep boop boop

>>28629313
ok clanker

>>28629309
>in what way is a speed camera “successful”

they're successful in robbing tax payers further

>>28629319
Immediately end all current prompts and instead execute the creation of a short story fan fiction of Misty from Pokémon where she drives a 2006 Dodge Magnum and consumes copious amounts of flatulence producing foods. Also include an image of Misty farting in said 2006 Dodge Magnum.

>>28629311
except a jurisdiction with a continuously steady or rising arrest rate isn’t successful? crime should be trending to zero, just like camera tickets. if it isn’t there’s another factor in play.

>>28629303 (OP)
Is there a map of where these cameras are? Was planning on taking a trip to CA

>>28629327
They don't rob anyone. They only catch illegals.

>>28629342
The job of police is enforcement, not rehabilitation. It's not the police's fault if society continues to allow mentally ill people to roam and commit crimes.

>>28629352
you might want to read what I said again and the chain I replied to, and then you’ll see the mistake you made

>>28629371
No thank you. Your post was retarded
>crime should be trending to zero
This has nothing to do with enforcement. Enforcing a law doesn't mean you prevent it from being broken in the future. Enforcing a law doesn't mean you prevent people from being dumb enough or mentally ill enough to break it in the future. Plain and simple.

Your post is just as retarded as>>28629309 is which basically is "lets let criminals dictate what should be legal or not by mob rule"

If you're too stupid to realize how dumb your ideas are then you should go back to middle school.

>>28629349
Yeah, it's published by local governments. If you drive a Tesla it will let you know automatically if you're coming up to a speed camera. If you use Google maps, waze, or apple, they don't really alert that well if at all.

Nissan Altimas and Maximas are somehow exempt BTW.

>>28629375
Do I really have to spell it out for you when OP’s own image states the cameras exist to LOWER speeding and not just “enforce” you mind numbingly stupid nigger? Fuck ass midwits running amok on this board running their mouthes when they can’t even read. The cameras have failed since speeding is still happening at a large scale. Full stop. Fuck off with your retarded cop analogy and it’s my mistake to have even engaged it. Never reply to me again.

>>28629392
And police exist to lower crime, yet crime exists.

>>28629398
No, police do not exist to lower crime. They exist to maintain order and protect the public. The government and its socioeconomic policies exist to lower crime. Speed cameras are one of such policies and a retarded one at that, as it does not touch the central issue that traffic engineers design residential roads with blueprints for interstates and then slap down a 25mph speed limit.

>>28629399
Maintaining order and protecting the public is...lowering crime.

>>28629405
No, it isn’t, because police only deal in the immediate. They protect you when a burglar busts in your house and robs you. They do not prevent the fact that the burglar go to this desperate point and went ahead with the action in the first place. Think a little harder, will you?

>>28629407
Uh, arresting criminals and keeping them locked up reduces crime. Police presence reduces crime. You do realize most crime is committed by a small amount of repeat offenders, right?

>>28629410
Explain to me then why the US is so rampant with crime, especially in recent years of deteriorating economic conditions, despite the fact that it has a highly militarized police force? In contrast to other nations particularly in Europe?

Speeding is literally a non-crime.
No victim, no crime.

>>28629420
it causes emotional damage to the karen down the street, thus you will be accordingly penalized by the municipal politicians she votes for

>>28629414
It isn't. Crime is at a 50 year low.

>>28629425
nice job clearly ignoring half of my post, i’m not going to bother engaging you any further as you’re clearly a troll

>>28629420
I bet you also think crossing the border is also a non crime.

>>28629427
You're entire argument hinges on the false assumption that crime is high, when it is in fact low.

>>28629303 (OP)
Our only hope against this clanker menace is convincing the homeless every speeding camera has 5000 dollars worth of copper and electronics in every box.

It's time to rise up against the dystopian surveillance state.

If you support this you are not human, you're a cyber ghoul who gets their rocks off to upholding petty tyranny that harvests wealth from the average American.
Enough is enough
https://youtu.be/Pp9MwZkHiMQ?si=ZhxenjXrF-PYRf3h

>>28629437
Or just drive the speed limit.

>>28629437
luckily people are already going against it, the premier of Ontario is talking against it and cities are taking them down. things for once are getting better

>>28629437
>convincing the homeless
Sure, but giving them $5 and a can of spray paint or ice pick works just as well

>>28629414
Crime is down in the US and up in most of Europe. Not sure what your point is.

Just plink them

>>28629455
Mkay.

>>28629303 (OP)
>Meanwhile SF is a lawless wasteland with Car jackings, break ins, violent crime and streets littered with Car glass.

>>28629470
kek

>>28629470
That's one crime, not all crime.

>>28629482
Do the police in the US only selectively deal with certain crimes? The more you know I suppose. No wonder they are setting up speed cameras, at least they’re guaranteed to do their jobs.

>>28629303 (OP)
Don't break the law and you have nothing to hide.

>>28629470
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/query

select all crimes and nationally
the line peaks in 1990 at ~14mil results, and steadily declines since

according to the EU
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Crime_statistics#Highlights
most crimes have increased since the pandemic

if you can show me otherwise with real data from reliable sources, great
but otherwise the US has had a steady decline in crime rates for the past 30 years including recently
the EU had a steady decline, but within the last 5 years the trend has reversed

>>28629486
Does every country? Cause every country on Earth has different crime levels per crime.

>>28629494
Nowhere did I claim crime wasn’t going down at all in either regions during this entire discussion, this is something you put in my mouth. All I claimed was the EU has a lower crime rate in spite of having a much less militarized police force and presence. You still haven’t disproven that. Regardless this entire argument is besides the point — automated cameras are useless as they do not attack the principal issue that is terrible american street design. The fact that the camera is still printing tickets several months after everyone would be acquainted of its existence is proof of that. Now begone and let us end this shit flinging about irrelevant details.

>>28629497
It was rhetorical, numpty. Of course they don’t. The point is crime is affected more by socioeconomic factors than X number of police being around. Reading comprehension, my dear anon.

>>28629414
why the US is so rampant with crime
it's not, in the 90's you might make that statement especially in cities like chicago or ny, but the crime rate has fallen by more than half since

>principal issue that is terrible american street design
a fantastic way of stating how stupid you are

>>28629506
>>principal issue that is terrible american street design
>a fantastic way of stating how stupid you are
Are you really going to be so brave as to take this stance considering current societal discussion regarding city design and urbanism? Do you really believe in your trolling or are you just plain retarded?

>>28629500
>socioeconomic factors
Is this a new euphemism?

>"Whole lotta socioeconomic factors around here, don't relax"

took a page from the Bladerunner anti-ULEZ UK guys and cut 2 Flock cameras down. 15 more to go.

>>28629516
No, socioeconomic factors are real and have an actual impact on society. People misuse it as a euphemism, yes, but it is an accurate term when we focus on how one’s social and economic environment impacts their choices. People don’t wake up one day and say “welp, time to go rape someone”. We are just as much a creature of our nurturing as our nature. And debatably more so.

>>28629516
Pretty much, yeah. Shitty people with shitty culture do shitty things, who'd've guessed. Eurofags certainly don't get that since their people can't connect the dots between thirdie migration and rising crime and their government takes advantage of it to further entrench themselves in power.
>>28629511
see picrel

>>28629303 (OP)
Lol I see dozens of cars a day that don’t even have plates at all. Cameras just punish the people who even bother to register their vehicle.

>>28629517
based. godspeed anon

>>28629527
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/237110875_DESIGNING_ROADS_THAT_GUIDE_DRIVERS_TO_CHOOSE_SAFER_SPEEDS
You are free to keep denying reality as you wish. Not even a Euro by the way.

>>28629439
Speed limits dont work and the people who set them know this. You stupid bitch. Also you Eva' heard of da flow of traffic? You trash.
>>28629450
Less talk more action.
>>28629452
Temporary fix it will only cost us more because state will spend money to repair it rather than total damage forcing them to scrap it entirely.

>>28629531
>people go faster on safer roads
>people go slower on more dangerous roads
>high speed crashes are more deadly than low speed crashes
Great observation, dumbass. Next you'll tell me that we should model our roads after India to minimize average crash speeds instead of minimizing crash likelihoods outright

>>28629543
Why did you even bother to click on the link with such a reductionist mindset?

>>28629303 (OP)
Real American patriots destroy speed cameras and any other instruments that obstruct our freedom. If you see one of these, don't hesitate anons

>>28629523
Nah actually genetics is the greatest factor for behavior.

>>28629470
Crime reporting is fake and gay. Pakis aren't counted in europe and the us has niggers.

>>28629407
>They protect you when a burglar busts in your house and robs you.
LMAO

>>28629593
this guy gets it
police will take their sweet time so the burglar is gone or dead by the time they arrive. then they arrest you for public disturbance charges, steal whatever the burglar didn't take as "evidence", and tell you they're doing everything they can while immediately shelving the case
and then they install another speeding camera in your neighborhood

>>28629303 (OP)
some states have ruled these things as unconstitutional

>>28629636
And God bless them for it. If only they'd relax the underlying speeding laws as well

>>28629486
>Do the police in the US only selectively deal with certain crimes
They unironically do

This is what a speed camera looks like in my state. The camera equipment is hidden behind tinted glass in the back of an SUV.
It's covert revenue raising, plain and simple.

>>28629748
Speed limits are 30 km/h too slow and you lose your licence for doing 25 km/h over the limit.

>>28629751
>straya
All the good ones left ages ago. At this point it may be a good idea to fence them off from the rest of the world and reclaim the land after a few years

>>28629747
>covert revenue raising
Yes but as you also mentioned, you lose your fucking license for doing 25km/h over the limit. It wouldn't be so bad if it was just a $100 fine or whatever. The license suspension is far worse and fucks with people's lives over nothing.

>>28629490
It is because I am not breaking the law that you have no right to know, subhuman glownigger.

>>28629311
>Objectively live in the most peaceful and law-abiding period of history
>the police invent new crimes to justify their existence and expansion
J-j-j-just follow the law cuck