Thread 28654749

what are some cars/engines that live for eternity?

ur mom lol

>>28654760
O fuck
Gotem

>>28654749 (OP)
Chrysler 225 slant 6. Australian Ford 250 straight 6 and Barra, Chrysler LA small block, ford Cleveland V8 especially the Australian 5 liter.

Any Datsun/Nissan L and A. Holden 186.

I see a decent amount of early 2000s GMC sierras. ALS old Honda civics

These will live on forever, they'll never be allowed to die because the value of being an original will always cost more than any repair or restoration.

>>28654749 (OP)
350 smol blok

Air filter: clogged
Dirty, oily substance in the crankcase: check
The lowest octane fuel possible in the tank: check
Battery just strong enough to slowly spin the engine over: check


It's 2003-2007 Accord time

>>28654871
I personally don't consider an engine indestructible if it consumes 5 qts of oil per 1k miles. If it doesn't get it's daily ration of oil it will likely die which is pretty not indestructible.

>>28654875
That's the catch, the engine doesn't even burn if at all, it's leaking out of the neglected seals because Honda owners can't be asked to fix anything.

3800 Series II V6s, once you replace the plastic coolant elbows with aluminum ones.

>>28654883
Why does the 3800 get memed so hard? I haven't seen a 3800 powered vehicle in over a decade. Meanwhile I see 10+ 4.3 powered Astros a day.

>>28654889
Same, in my territory it's 2000s Hondas and Toyotas rolling around in various states of disrepair, 2000s domestic anything is uncommon because they were just such crap for their time.

>>28654749 (OP)
2013 Kia Sorento. Non gdi.

>>28654897
Can't speak for the 4 cylinder Thetas but the Lambda V6 engine might be indestructible, my mom neglected hers to the point of low oil pressure at idle, but it still ran decently.

>>28654889
The Buick 3800 is listed on Wikipedia as one of the greatest engines of the 20th century.

>>28654906
How can it be great when it hasn't achieved anything? I'm not sure why it's on that list. It's performance was dogshit and there aren't any left on the roads. How is that "great"?

>>28654920
This, and saying it's up there in the realm of 20th century engines doesn't mean much when that's the same century as the 130HP V8 Malaise motors, the competition isn't that crazy, meanwhile the 21st century went nuts, a VQ35 V6 engine would put out 260-298HP, a number greater than the supercharged 3800 Series II and prove to be as reliable as a Civic, it was ridiculous how many engines from various families would make good power (200HP 4 cylinder was common), get good economy, and run a trouble free 100K miles, way more if you actually maintain it.

>>28654928
Ah yes, the reliable VQ35, despite the excessive oil consumption, plastic timing chain guides/tensioners, and faulty coil packs. What a great engine.

>>28654948
Say what you want Anon, but you still see those pieces of shit running around all the time, the thing worked great for beaners and nigs in G coupes to beat the hell out of it and moms in Altimas and vans to also beat the hell out of it and don't take care of it.

>>28654950
I see more buick regals than G35s

>>28654889
>>28654891
What state do you live in. I can easily look up a oldest average vehicle by state to see if you’re full of shit.

>>28654920
Formula Buick, IndyCar, nascar, pro stock etc. one of the most raced engines in the world. There are tons still on the road.
https://autorecyclingworld.com/what-is-the-lifespan-of-a-vehicle-in-the-usa/
Read this article. The Buick LeSabre on there as one of the oldest vehicles still on the road on average.

>>28654749 (OP)
b230

>>28655169
>Todd Bialaszewski, founder of Junk Car Medics, provides insight into the lifespan of vehicles in the USA, which averages 16.58 years with an average mileage of 156,470 miles when junked.

Do people just not take care of their shit? My 2009 Corolla is approaching 217,000 miles and I'm confident it can do at least another 50k with basic maintenance. This is supposed to be one of the "bad" Corollas, too.

Like, how hard is it to take your car through the Jiffy Lube a few times a year?

>>28655179
Swedish engines are a meme

>>28654749 (OP)
any volvo truck (2004+)

BMW's N52. Tho it's rare in Europe because it was only available from 2005 to 2008. Takes a shit ton of abuse and can get to 600k km

>>28655360
It might actually be indestructible, I was just at a meet and a guy in an E60 with the N52 had a drain plug back out, lost all his sump and was running for a little, filled it back up with a new drain plug from the store and it sounded the same.

>>28655197
People would rather have a shiny new car than maintain an old one if they can afford it. In Japan, they practically force their citizens to repeatedly buy new cars to stimulate the auto industry by taxing older cars off the road.

>>28655360
I liked them until I found out they have a chain driven oil pump that's a engine out job if it fails

N52 is very common in American Market since we got it from 06-13

iron duke

>>28654889
They followed a generation of absolutely trash domestics and were put into practically every gm sedan, so everyone had one, and everyone noticed it wasn't complete trash. The cars were nice enough people wanted them to last over 100k and they did. Its unremarkable, just a footnote where domestics finally did not suck.

>>28655207
how

>>28655535
How what? You need me to explain how something becomes a meme?

Opel Zafira A after an engine swap

>>28654749 (OP)
good ol' 454

>>28655360
A fucking jeep compass can reach 600km
indestructible means crossing the 1000km mark

Most of the cars posted here rust to dust.
You fucks only look at the engines. You can't sit on the engine and think you'll go anywhere once everything else rusted away.

>>28656989
in which year car manufacturers cared about rusting and metal longevity?

>>28657016
Audi, in the late 80s.
They galvanized their bodies and many of those 40 years old cars are still on the road in Eastern Europe with next to 0 maintenance

>>28654749 (OP)
old volvos and mercedes, old hilux and land cruisers

>>28657026
>rust piles

>>28657016
Like 10 years ago when ford announced the new trucks would be made of aluminum, I remember

>>28654877
Idk about those specifically, but pretty much all 90’s Hondas leak oil through the valve guides if they haven’t been replaced.

>>28654889
Because they’re all driven by geezers who go to church and the grocery store once a week and that’s it.
Although they’re certainly not bad, I’ve had a few friends who owned them, but yeah idk if they really deserve the rep. Probably given they’re just an LT with 2 cylinders lopped off.

>>28654901
The thetas are good besides the years with the “machining debris” (IIRC it was actually a shitty oil pump, but I forget)

>>28657656
Yeah you are definitely right about Honda's C series V6 engines in the 90s, when they got old and high miles, and you let the engine idle for a few minutes, it would do a puff of blue smoke when you threw it in gear and took off, even if the engine had good compression, Honda later got the top ends of the motors like K series and J series pretty much perfect, and it got to the point where carboned up rings and extreme wear due to overly extended oil changes are the main cause of oil consumption on Jap engines these days.

>>28657596
Does it really matter if the frame is still steel?

>>28657668
Yes? Of course a frame can rust, but that's mostly an issue if it's designed by retards and there is a good reason to use steel for the frame in spite of the risk, because of its material properties offering longevity under repeated stresses from shit like towing. The body just needs to avoid rusting, so aluminum makes sense. Using aluminum for everything to save on manufacturing complexity or avoid rusting is retarded for a truck because then you end up with dumb shit like the Cybertruck having a failure mode where the back of the frame WILL eventually just snap off if you use it for towing regularly, no matter what.

>>28655360
>BMW's N52
>ofhg leaks oil all over the belt
>belts slips off and goes behind the pulley
>belt gets sucked into the front main seal and takes it out
>belt material goes into the oil pan clogging the pickup

>>28655445
>chain driven oil pump
That's most engines dingus. You must be a honda fag.

Any big block V8

>>28659009
>big block V8
>live for eternity
There's very few left on the road.

For me it's the Ford 4.6L 2V

>>28658837
Literally never happens

ford 2.0 duratec, up there with jap 4 cylinders.

>>28659056
how much of that is because they were just gas guzzlers and/or people just buying The New Thing

>>28654889
20 miles to work every day, butter smooth, and rust free. Not a meme.

Mercedes OM617
BMW M30
Volvo redblocks as long as it's carbed
Škoda 136M
Chrysler Turbo II
Volkswagen 1.6 and 1.9 diesels from the Mk1 to Mk4 era Golfs

All of those engines are cockroaches that will run practically forever even with neglect and abuse.
Ironically all of those are in cars that will rust out long before any potential mechanical issues could ever be even thought about.

Vulcan 3l.
Pushrod cologne.

>Ford 300ci/4.9L I6 & 7.3L Powerstroke V8
>Mazda BP 1.8 & 2.0 inline 4's, K-Series and AJ series V6
>Toyota V6 engines from 88-14 & non-turbo 2JZ I6, every single UZ V8 Toyota produced
>Honda BP20, FA22, B18, B16, K-Series Inline 4's, and JA V6's

There are probably others as well but if you're not getting one of the above brands you're gonna get a car that doesn't last as long as the motor. Looking at you >every German car every sold in the US

>>28654749 (OP)
Eternity in manufacturing terms is 5 years so basically everything currently on the market. Anything older requires or went through various component rebuilds and replacements.

>>28658840
Yeah Japanese cars use gear driven oil pumps or chains with no plastic guides

The N52 has a chain with plastic guides that are impossible to change with the engine in the car

>>28662048
Good thing n52's don't get timing chain or guide problems unless you're a third world spic that doesn't change the oil.

>>28662075
Good thing the n52 will fail after every other shitty piece of your turk assembled car

>>28654760
haha destroyed
kikkd hard

>>28654749 (OP)
>engines that live for eternity?
unironically? any engine that is made outside of Germany/Europe

>>28654760
https://youtu.be/41TpEkMdcqo?si=VPWixVHBrIVkadHG

>>28654749 (OP)
there's this 4 cylinder engine made by dodge but forgot which one

>>28654749 (OP)
Any Merc with the M113 V8 and 5 speed auto

>>28654749 (OP)
>if oil changed religiously every 5k miles or 6months, whichever comes first


Toyota 1UZFE
Toyota 1GRFE
Mitsu 4G63
VW 1.8T
Mercedes Benz M119
GM Vortec 4200 “Atlas”
Audi AVP 4.2 40V
Mazda K-Series V6

Among others I’m sure

>>28659102
A friend of mine has a Teksid 4V with like 200k miles, runs perfect.

>>28666563
You can add Volvo 5 cylinders to this list.

>>28654749 (OP)
Any buick, or pontiac with a first gen 3800.

>>28666557
Based M113, fuckin S class falls apart around it because it's such a piece of shit but the car rips

>>28666563
>Mazda K-Series V6
that's a funny fucking joke m8
those don't even exist in the streets anymore, unlike all of the others

>>28667357
>relatively uncommon even when in its prime
>totally slept on during its production
>Usually came in economy or granny cars
>driven to death (250k+ miles)
>hur dur you dont see them on the road anymore!

Yes. You’re right, you don’t see them on the road anymore. You hardly saw them on the road in the US when they were being made. Doesn’t mean they weren’t superb engines that go ages if you do your part.

>>28655178
5VZFE GANG GANG.

>>28669170
for me it's the smaller cousin the 3vzfe that was used for just two years in the burger camrys and was known to be detuned from the factory