Thread 28669266

Why do Americans hate this brand?

raped by porsche, corvette, camaro, v6 chally, etc

>>28669266 (OP)
brittle plastic trash

>>28669266 (OP)
They're fairly expensive for what they are. Decent interiors and they're technically good, but when they're 25% more expensive than the competition, they're known to be fragile with over-engineered German bullshit, and repairs are extra expensive too. Plus on top of that the 'enthusiasts' of BMWs are usually deplorable shitskins or guys who sniff their own farts for an assumption of superiority. Alternatively you have women driving them because they think its a luxury car like a Mercedes.

That being said I do want an older Z4.

>>28669266 (OP)
Because they’re poor. BMW is based if you’re rich.

I like em but then again I also touch grass

>>28669294
Why are hiding the rod bearing failures?

We don't. They make RWD manuals.
We hate the uppity yuppie bitches that have some persecution complex about what brand they buy and try to turn car discussion into some ego shit.
But also, air/water intercoolers *inside* the intake manifold? What a nightmare.

>>28669281
>they think its a luxury car like a Mercedes
Is it not?

>>28669385
No, its just expensive. They have similar interiors to Toyotas and Kias and Hyundais now.

>>28669266 (OP)
Because for some reason, their drivers are almost all speed demons who don't know what a blinker is.

>>28669325
Nice favela.

>>28669266 (OP)
They make nice bikes

>>28669364
that's where everyone puts them

>>28669275
>v6 chally

>>28669406
This except
>speed demon
means going 5 over and trying to cut up only to get stuck when they hit the pack of 20 retards blocking both lanes and tailgating each other.

>>28669281
>BMWs are usually deplorable shitskins or guys who sniff their own farts for an assumption of superiority
Tavarish is a BMW hater tho

>>28669266 (OP)
Because I hate every brand. I like some of their cars, but liking/disliking something solely based on which massive corporation made it is fucking stupid and just kills any real discussion.

>>28669534
*Made

>>28669266 (OP)
Parts and repairs are two expensive. Is it like this in Europe?

>>28669266 (OP)
Not me. I love my x3M40i - hit almost 265K miles. Zero issue. Very reliable.

We don't. Least I don't. Still prefer benz but it has a seat at the table.

>>28669266 (OP)
On the other hand, why does /o/ worship this brand?

>>28669266 (OP)
over priced, over engineered, under powered (apart from M cars), under reliable
they are rather sexy, but so is a methhead hooker

>>28672504
>sexy, but so is a methhead hooker
nigga you've never been within 20 feet of any methhead if you think any of them can be attractive. that or you're clinically blind

because america is a jewish country and germans killed a bunch of jews back in the day

>>28672719
lmao cry more virgin

>>28669266 (OP)
Mutts don't know how to take care of cars.

They used to be easy to work on with mid powered inline 6s, giving a smooth ride with a smooth transmission in a nice interior.
Now they are:
>plastic using
>seat warmer subscription
>Chinese consumer aiming
>forced induction standard
>"X-Drive"
>significantly over-complicated everything
>still plagued with electrical problems
>V8s have never made a good power/weight or power/cylinder/displacement ratio EVER. I'm not sure why they try at this point because their V8's are HEINOUS to work on.
>auto transmissions still absolute shit
>manual transmissions significantly harder to find on non sport cars in US
>every part must come from Germany because all their foreign parts manufacturers essentially only make parts for assembly

You can see it just by who owns BMW's today. Used to be the joke that it stood for "Black man's wife" because it was a very nice car that niggers used to buy before securing a house or anything else more important. People used to think they were fun to drive. They were cool, styled amazingly, and now it's driven by rich cunts and retards trying to act like they can afford the "life of luxury". The US really only sells their SUV's anymore, and rich cunts buy shit like 6 series that aren't an M^ but the "M" badge that gets added to any trim these days. There's no prestige with the brand anymore. It became what Mercedes became after they stopped making reliable cool vehicles.
>Shitty
>Overpriced
>Money pits

>>28675434
I agree on all counts, but did you need to 35-hour bump another BMW thread to the top? We have enough of them.

>>28672729
>can only get with lot lizards
weird flex but ok

>>28673319
Between Mercedes and BMW, I can't tell you which manufacturer requires more one off tools for *one stupidly specific bolt* that won't ever be used for anything else. I mean really, you can shit on Americans for being stupid (90% are) but my god Germans are just autistic. They never have engineers think about "hmm, Hans, what happens if these part we're making Syrians in Turkish factories produce need to be replaced? Vouldn't it be bad that zey have to remove ze entire bumper, radiator, intake, and coolant hoses to get zis one bolt out?"
"Ach mein gott Karl, it vill be pasht varrenty at zat point so who cares?"
"Ohh jaa, lets watch some Arabs rape girls in downtown Berlin jaa"

meanwhile BMW execs wondering why they keep losing out to fucking Lexus in every market except China (who is just stealing their tech and giving it to BYD)

>>28675438
It's chinks asking because it's their most sought after brand in China. They come to NA and wonder why we all hate this brand.

>let's make the oil filter housing out of plastic
>And continue to use metal filters

>>28675626
Wait'll you find out about plastic oil pans, intakes, and other common items replaced with plastic.

>>28669325
Yes! Finally got a real BMW.
I'm driving that thing when I come down to get those wheels
<muh reddit space>
We don't all hate BMWs; that's only weeblet slowfaglets

>>28669266 (OP)
I have zero idea how BMW manages to sell a single 5 series when the Genesis G80 exists

Because it's the shittiest pile of shit that has ever been put in a junkyard. It makes Chrysler seem like Toyota by comparison

>>28669266 (OP)
Jews and Niggers brainwash Americans to hate White Europeans

>>28669266 (OP)
Like all things we don't hate the brand, just the people who drive them like dickheads.

>>28676771
No one is disputing that BMW drivers are the worst drivers on the road. But brainwashed to hate BMW? BMW has committed more sins than any other automaker, and no reasonable white man prefers these piles of garbage.

>heated seats as a subscription service
>plastic engines
>plastic transmissions
>plastic intakes and exhausts
>plastic everything

>>28676775
>implying Americans don't talk the same shit about every Euro manufacturer

>>28676783
Absolutely untrue. BMW has a special place. Mercedes, VW, Audi, and all the other German cars put together don't get 1/10th of the hate that BMW gets.

>>28669266 (OP)
US fuel quality is dogshit and ruined a lot of engines that used nikasil lining.

>Nikasil was very popular and was used by companies such as BMW, Ducati, Jaguar and Moto Guzzi in their new engine families.
>However, the sulfur found in much of the world's low-quality gasoline caused some Nikasil cylinders to break down over time, causing costly engine failures.

Then BMW also sent gimped versions of the M3 to the US but gave Canada the Euro spec versions, no idea why that happened desu.

Americans hate not being #1 so they reject anything unamerican

>>28676821
The only thing BMW is #1 in is retarded drivers and plastic engine components

>>28676796
>dumb fucking europoors make bad cars with unproven technology then blame americans
lol

>>28669364
god look at all that plastic

>>28669560
He's become the new frosty at this point. In a couple years he'll get arrested doing something stupid, sent to prison, then get his dick chopped off after getting a couple years of tayquan's love.

>>28669325
they don't make cars like this anymore. both left and right.

>>28676775
This. At least they arent 2026 Audi level of terrible, pic related, but yeah.

Top pic is OLD Q3
Bottom pic is NEW Q3


>>28676783
>Whatabout faggot
Kys retard

>>28669534
They're all overpriced, and mostly trash except for the big GS and the S1000

>>28676825
I didn’t imply BMW was #1 (even though it is).
I implied compared to mutt brands BMW takes the cake

>>28677191
How is that whataboutism? Americans hate Euros and constantly talk shit about European cars, not just BMW.

>>28676827
>no issues across Europe and other firstie countries
>went to shit in the US and thirdie countries only

>>28669294
>N54
Why would you buy a turbo petrol BMW? If you want to spoil the experience by going turbo at least buy the diesel engine for ez power.

>>28677863
>>no issues across Europe and other firstie countries
Drop the cap.

>>28677947
I'm being no cap and very fr.

>>28677950
Blud my first car was a 525 E34 and I owned multiple BMWs over the years. They are somewhat reliable cars but not outstanding.

>>28677406
We werent talking about Euro brands we were talking about BMW. You should kys

>>28677034
frosty was weak and stupid and did illegal things he fittingly paid the price for
i on the other hand hold the ultimate power over you
you can't even use this board of one second without being constantly reminded of my complete and total mogging of your person, you cope and seethe every day trying to slide the board with your gay germoid rental cope threads

one day the stress of my complete superiority will be too much to bear and like the plastic hoses in your car, eventually you will crack.

>>28677863
>euros mostly drive 4cyl diesels
>most 6 series BMWs sold in the UK were diesel until 2017
>Euros don't pay import taxes on every part
yeah wow
also
>every BMW V8 is trash power to cylinder and displacement
>they are all horribly complicated and take many specialized tools to work on or drop the entire engine to access
>engine bays are designed to have as little possible space
>all modern BMW's are front-mid engined cars because they are lazy with weight distribution and just push the motor further back until your back cylinders are 5mm away from the /\ shaped firewall
AS I TYPE THIS IDOCARS LITERALLY PULLING A SHITHEAP N63
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnyVlx8TmNY

>>28678409
Not reading all your bullshit. See you in a few years future frostina.

>Be me
>See mint condition early 70s fluorescent yellow BMW for sale at dealership
>take a look at the interior
>its almost entirely cheap looking black injection moulded plastic
>Realize this thing cost as as much as Cadillac back in the day but has material quality worse than a US subcompact from the same time costing less than 1/4 the price.
WTF is wrong with European cars?

>>28678448
oh and we're supposed to read all of yours? hundreds of gay cope threads about your fragile plastic sauerkraut company cope car every day?
lol
lmao even
see you in a few years when you're driving a hyundai

>>28678478
>Another LN of a post.

>nooo your post is too long and white like your massive challenger-length penis i can't read it with my tiny squinty brown eyes

keep digging that hole pal

>>28678426
>be in Australia
>diesel BMWs are rare
>majority of models here are the 6cyl petrol models, but Mercedes is 50/50 on being petrol or diesel
>all extremely reliable
wow.
the only shitheaps are the V8s from bmw and mercedes, germans just cant make V8s imo. Australia also had local V8s anyway so there was no point in trying to sell them here really.
>they are all horribly complicated and take many specialized tools to work on or drop the entire engine to access
>engine bays are designed to have as little possible space
you have literally never worked on one and it shows. bmw is probably one of the few with a lot of space, while audi basically requires you to take the front bumper off on the smaller models.
t. worked on a lot of my own and my mates euro cars

>>28678515
all the german companies engineer their cars to fail in a specific timeframe because the german auto industry thrives on leasing fleets to businesses and if they made reliable cars the entire scheme would fall apart. vag makes their cars difficult to service on purpose. bmw makes their cars excessively fragile. mercedes makes theirs excessively complicated and full of sensitive electronics. german cars are complete trash.

>>28678519
they're not set to fail in a time period, it's just a knock on effect of ignoring maintenance. they are reliable if you fix what needs fixing and dont just let it rot and spread to something else.
people treat lease cars like shit so its no surprise a former lease is going to have issues, same shit happens with fleet cars.

i have a toyota as a work car that the company gave me and the underbody is messed up beyond belief and it has warning lights from not being maintained by the employee i replaced. the boss also doesn't give a shit that its been treated like shit, its pretty stunning and i assume its because he gets so much back in taxes for it.

>>28678525
>they're not set to fail in a time period
yes they are, in fact

https://wolfpen.com/the-wolfpen-blog/f/the-most-unreliable-german-cars-of-the-past-ten-years
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14693062.2018.1533446#abstract

the lease terms and warranty lengths are carefully arranged so that the cars are traded in every 36 months or more, with parts specifically designed to fail catastrophically beyond that period in order to ensure compliance. it's why the german auto industry is failing because even the koreans make more durable, reliable cars.

>>28678519
>all the german companies engineer their cars to fail in a specific timeframe
That's literally every company

>>28669266 (OP)
I hate BMW because of it's ugly pig nose grill. I don't understand anything about car performance and engines and I buy solely based on looks and fuel economy, so I like Audi, Jaguar, Nissan, and Volvo.

>>28678426
In that video he says he owns 7 or 8 BMWs that he likes, and that their V8s after 2009 are good. He also says the N63 runs great and is incredibly tuneable while it is running
Just get an S63 with forged internals if you're worried about it

>>28678462
Delusional

>>28678540
They just werk n my machines *shrug nigmoji*

>>28678673
Thanks for proving my point

>>28678571
wrong

>>28678670
lmao shill, he said he likes about 7/8 BMW models and does not at all say their their post 2009 V8's are good because if you had actually watched the video, he says 2 min later that this was pulled from a 2011.
Their V8's are trash and that's 90% of their upper trim/sporty cars aside from the M3. M5/6M/M7 all v8's.
>oh you can make the easiest and most balanced engine in the world after focusing on it solely since the 70's
>unable to make a V8 that doesn't shit itself since 1988
>only reason they didn't shit themselves then was they made almost no power in comparison to other manufacturer's V8s.

>>28678515
>bmw is probably one of the few with a lot of space, while audi basically requires you to take the front bumper off on the smaller models.
Holy cope batman, now I know you're a busriding faggot who has never been under the hood of a beamer.
>pic related, the 2011 6 series that the IDoCars video was pulled from
>>so much space!!!
Even in the inline 6 engine bay there's no fucking room, you AUS cuck. Go back to bench racing against the chinks and pajeets you idiots have been importing

>>28678515
>bmw is probably one of the few with a lot of space
>>a lot of space

>>28678673
>he thinks the forcibly biodegradable wires and plastic the EU forced all euro manufacturers to use is SOVL
These BMW fanboys have never owned a BMW or worked on one before. Don't listen to them rage that they picked arguably the worst modern manufacturers to praise

It's a brand for brown "people".

>>28678673
This is the exact car

>>28669266 (OP)
I hate it because I hate the idea that performance has to be gatekept behind overly complicated overly expensive "luxury" bullshit. Just give me the engine and transmission in the cheapest possible car. That's the foundation behind the entire American auto industry and why the Mustang and Challenger are so beloved. We just want as much hp per dollar as we can get

>>28669266 (OP)
Asshole drivers

>>28679695
No, that's a fuckin RACE CAR, son!

>>28678970
I own 4 BMWs though

>>28678970
Mutt hands typed this post

>>28678958
>>28678961
>looks like literally every engine bay ever
Do you just work on cars from the 50s or what? Pretty much every engine bay of the last 30 years looks like that.

>>28679734
>>28679740
thanks for proving my point that that was the only thing he said that you didn't lie about lol
>>28679778
>looks like another slightly less cramped engine bay
The hyundai actually has more space lol keep coping about your turkmobile

>>28680643
I said he owns 7 or 8 BMWs, to which you called me a shill
How is me showing you that he in fact owns 7 or 8 BMWs and would buy more proving anything else?

>>28680758
You are a shill because only 1/3 of your statement was correct
>In that video he says he owns 7 or 8 BMWs that he likes, and that their V8s after 2009 are good. He also says the N63 runs great and is incredibly tuneable while it is running
He didn't say the second 2/3's of the statement. He said their V8's "got better" but didn't specify a year, you said 2011 which is funny because that was the exact year of the car he pulled it from and went on about how bad these motors are. He also did not say "N63 runs great and is incredibly tuneable while it is running" he said they "run well...when they're running" which was a dig at the fact that motor was pulled at like 120k on the chassis and was replaced at 100k by a 90k mile engine. Also he has several videos of him walking around his yard and you can see all his beamers
>all I6 BMWs from pre 2006
yeah wow look at these retard beemerfans proving me right

>>28680888
Check 'em, sonnyboy