Thread 28676134

Why does a naturally aspirated, pushrod V8, mated to a manual transmission in an FR-coupe layout still represent the ultimate purist car configuration?

>>28676134 (OP)
The quad-cam ZR-1 is better. Pushrods lose vs quad cam every time

>>28676141
don’t got that torque down low, doe

>>28676144
it's a fucking 2 seater sports car. Are you towing a trailer? Low down torque is for trucks

>>28676161
>sports car
I mean let's be honest, the gm corvette is not a real sports car.
It's a lifestyle car with sporty styling, and most people just call them hairdressers cars.

>>28676134 (OP)
>Why is stuff that's good for performance still good for performance

>>28676179
you’ll have fags saying all you need a honda K engine though

>>28676178
The shit ones with pushrods are hairdresser cars but the c4 ZR-1 is a sports car

>>28676187
Actually no, it's not a sports car. It's another trim level of another gm lifestyle car.
It does look sporty, but is for trips to the salon, really.

>>28676199
>This goofball is unironically pulling his back reaching that the vette of all cars isn't a sports car.

Top kek, I know a wrenchlet when I see 1

>>28676207
I'm not defending that retard but IMO the term "sports car" has been stretched too thin.
Everywhere except america "sports car" carried the implication that the car was high-tech, bringing the lastest motorsport technologies to the road. It's only in america where the "sports car" eg: the corvette is a rejection of the latest motorsport tech. IMO the american sports car and the rest of the world should have used 2 different terms.

>>28676161
Low end torque is how corvettes racing team was so successful. They were never the most powerful on the grid or the fastest in qualifying against other manufacturer backed teams. They’d win by keeping the car at a low rpm because they made a lot of torque down there and this gave them the best fuel economy out of anyone on the grid, including the eco boost ford gt.

>>28676187
You're replying to a namefag who posts the same shit over and over in Corvette/Honda/whatever threads to get a rise out of people, just ignore that subhuman.

>>28676283
Ok so using that logic all racing cars should be turbo diesel. Why don't you sell your motorsport knowledge to formula 1. I'm tired of hearing this pushrod cope.

>>28676283
Sounds like bullshit, but I believe it.

>>28676264
You are on the right track, but it's even simpler than that.
The clue is in the name, a sports car is designed and built purely for sports use, and nothing else.
Therefore, the gm corvette is actually far from being a real sports car.

>>28676134 (OP)
Yes, that’s why I own two.

>>28676334
scratch that i forgor the yote isnt pushrod LOL

>>28676338
we’ll grant you an exception my dear padawan

>>28676291
Audi did it.

>>28676348
special rules specifically designed to encourage someone to run a diesel don't count anon.

>>28676141
What a tangential and needlessly inflammatory thing to say

>>28676389
OP started it by calling a pushrod car the ultimate purist configuration. Obviously wrong and requiring correction. Unfortunately the only corvette with a real engine is the C4 ZR-1

>>28676392
The only Rx-7 with a real engine has an LS swap. Now let’s see this retard contradict all of his arguments by defending rotaries.

>>28676144
do pushrods inherently have better low end torque or is it just because the engines were designed from the get-go with low end torque?

>>28676392
the C8 ZR1 is also DOHC….

>>28676488
the volume they gain from not having massive heads leads to greater displacement and thus torque, there’s nothing inherent to either design that would grant more or less torque.

>>28676141
How many street legal 5 second quad cam cars are there? Which engine configuration holds the wheel driven piston engine record? I could drop $5k into my truck and make 1000hp semi reliably. Which DOHC shitbox can pull that off?

>>28676658
Tesla

>>28677102
Vgh… the wonders of Tesla’s DOHC technology…

>>28676134 (OP)
The real question is, why has this been the standard for enthusiast cars for over 70 years and yet now, throughout the entire world, the whole planet, there is only one (1) car made by 1 (one) manufacturer that still puts a manual V8 in a coupe

>>28676141
better how? The LS6 makes the same level of power with pushrods. Theyre also much easier to maintain.

>>28677145
Dabbing On Hybrid Cars?

>>28677173
only GM has the inertia to continue pouring R&D funding into pushrods, all others abandoned it cause OHC was the “hawt new thang”

>>28677173
>the standard for enthusiast cars for over 70 years
bugatti

>>28678156
>wat is ford godzilla
>anon was referencing the mustang as the only v8 manual coupe left anyway

>>28677173
Now there are zero. C8 is DCT only.

>>28681013
They're also MR, not FR.

>pigfat sled with a boat anchor for an engine
>purist

Americans could never

>>28681030
>A mass produced road car that's twice as old as a custom build track car doesn't perform as well

>>28676178
>>28676199
>>28676311


Look up what the etymology of 'sport', 'sporting', or 'sporting use' actually means.
High performance roadgoing cars bought by amateur enthusiasts for fun are sports cars. They are cars for sport. Literally nobody but you is confused by this. Literally nobody but you uses the term 'hairdresser car'.

>>28681264
he's just a resident shitposter. don't take anythimg he says seriously

>>28681268
I don't, I just take the free opportunity to embarrass him whenever I see him float these offences against good language again, pour encourageur les autres.
It's the principle of the thing, you see.

>>28676283
Can't tell if bait or just average american retardation

>>28676134 (OP)
>truck engine
>sports cars
everyone laugh at ameripoors

>>28681295
can’t tell if bus rider or a woman who doesn’t understand how RPM works.

Either way, post tits.

>>28681342
nice going pierre, now go back to enjoying your 1.2 fiat punto on gallic age roadways

>>28676134 (OP)
It just feels right

>>28681342
Yeah it's pretty terrible having an engine that lasts 500k miles with lots of headroom for additional power. Engines that consume rod bearings are much better!

>>28676653
You're dumb

>>28677295
Dookie On Her Penis

>>28681502
>dual overhead pushrod
blursed

>>28681511
What's better than a pushrod?

That's right. Two pushrods.

>>28681264
>High performance roadgoing cars bought by amateur enthusiasts for fun are sports cars.
You are incorrect.
These cars are not built purely for sports use, therefore, they are not sports cars.
They are made purely for road use, in the gm corvettes case, for driving to the salon.

>>28676134 (OP)
It doesn't, and it never did.

>>28681490
>reliability
holy fucking poorfag

>>28681501
stellar rebuttal, faggot

>>28681869
I accept your concession on his behalf

>>28676141
what an incredibly autistic thing to say. the quad cam zr1 motor was made by lotus.

>>28676161
uh, you know hp is jst a measure of work right. torque is what moves your car retard.

>>28676178
its a grand touring car or "sports car" to the retards for commercial reasons. a lotus7 is a true Sports car

>>28676264
wrong. a Sports car has nothing on it that doesnt make it quick(not fast) a sports car is for drining down hedge lined farm roads in europe. nothing on it, no roof, no interior, no doors, sometimes only one rear wheel etc. your hi tech hyper car isnt a sportscar. lotus seven, morgan trike, american 40-50's hot rods are sports cars.

>>28681647


Look up what the etymology of 'sport', 'sporting', or 'sporting use' actually is, since you have obviously been labouring under a mistaken presumption every day of your life up to now. You should stop being wrong and use words correctly instead. It is better to be right rather than wrong. It is good to speak truth and bad to speak falsity.
A car for fun is a car for sport. High performance roadgoing cars bought by amateur enthusiasts for fun are sports cars.

>>28681013
Mustang?

>>28676488
>designed from the get-go
pritty much, but also there are a bunch of limitations around push rods that make it easier to go for torque.

pushRODS push GODS

>>28681473
Nta, and I love Corvettes and Vipers, that's why I own both of them, but he basically stated a fact about truck engines, and you just made a weak baseless stereotype assumption as a "comeback". Try harder Bubba Joe.