Thread 28679559

>born too late to buy an s2k
>born too late to buy a miata
>born too late to buy an EK civic
>born too late to buy an e36
>born too late to buy an rx7

Gr86
Gr yaris
Hellcat

>>28679586
based

>>28679586
yeah honestly gt86 is about the only car i could think of
hellcat is gay, yaris is gay, 350z is gay and ND miatas are for gnomes and yellow people

Born just in time to buy THE Ultimate Driving Machine

>>28679599
i don't have rich parents and i don't want telemetry in my car you fucking loser

>>28679601
how are you going to accuse others of being a loser while youre literally a loser millennial whining about why it isn't 1989 anymore for the past 30 years

>>28679607
i'm 20 buddy
new cars are dogshit and you know it

>>28679559 (OP)
Why do you fags despair about not buying a 25 year old car new? I've been driving and restoring 60+ year old cars since I learned to drive. Just buy one and fix it faggot.

>>28679609
Your opinions have been formed by what's acceptable to say on the internet without respect to real-world experience. Can you really expect someone to take such an opinion seriously?
Try actually driving a BMW instead of coping about it. Or just BUY one of the cars you mentioned, Sir Copesalot.
https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/JHMAP1146YT008054
Near Naperville, IL
NO ACCIDENTS REPORTED
Used 2000 Honda S2000
$33,800• 31,339 mi
1 owner.
Go buy it. You won't.
1.) No balls
2.) You're a coper

>>28679613
>$33,800

>>28679615
Because it's in nearly perfect condition and has low mileage, Sir Copesalot.
$33k isn't shit either, it's maybe a $600/mo payment.

>>28679615
https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/JHMAP11402T001169
Near Aurora, IL
NO ACCIDENTS REPORTED
GREAT VALUE
Used 2002 Honda S2000
$21,995• 61,872 mi
No Balls, you won't.
https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/JM1FE17N550145450
Near Chantilly, VA
NO ACCIDENTS REPORTED
Used 2005 Mazda RX-8 Sport
$13,595• 13,234 mi
No balls, you won't.
https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/JM1NB353XX0131743
Near Garland, TX
NO ACCIDENTS REPORTED
Used 1999 Mazda Miata
$9,995• 72,651 mi
OP is a pussy who can't get this either.
https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/WBA3B3C5XDF536728
Near Highland Park, IL
NO ACCIDENTS REPORTED
GREAT VALUE
Used 2013 BMW 3 Series 328i xDrive
$11,967• 56,189 mi
You won't get this either, pussy bitch.
https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/JN1AZ34E66M351226
Near Fullerton, CA
NO ACCIDENTS REPORTED
Used 2006 Nissan Z 350Z Touring
$14,991• 60,753 mi

In conclusion: OP is a pussy bitch who COULD be driving a fun car but is too much of a bitch to do it.
Prove me wrong faglord.

>>28679633
yeah maybe i'll buy a rusted ran through POS 35 year old miata in 5 years when i'll be able to afford it
also i'm in europe so everything is like 1.2x as expensive

>>28679609
>i'm 20 buddy
Son modern cars are largely dogshit but you're trying to fit into an identity that you were never part of. You saw some memes and tiktoks online about the cars you mentioned and now you think they're the greatest thing to ever exist.
Stop whining and go buy an old car or buy a new one that matches as close as possible to the old feel.

>>28679637
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Europee-pees can't have cars, you know that.
You VILL get the 1L 2cyl "car".

>>28679639
>you're trying to fit into an identity that you were never part of
i'm old enough to remember world pre social media
>You saw some memes and tiktoks online
yeah like a decade ago when i was 10, i remember being into cars for my whole life even when i was a small kid

>>28679644
You mean in 2015, lmao.
Honestly you grew up in one of the dumbest decades to ever exist.

>>28679644
>>28679650
>i'm old enough to remember world pre social media
And no you aren't. Social media started being a thing in 2006 when you were literally a 1-year-old.
You've never known a world without niggers, cell phones, and social media. Which is sad honestly because you're being gaslit 24/7 by faggots basically.

>>28679653
and you've never known a world without niggers and televisionslop either, my rapidly aging millennial friend.
>>28679644
just go sit in some of these cars and see if they are actually what you think they are.
boomers are still wishing for the big block muscle car days of the 60s and think all the cars you mentioned are nothing more than junk (which is kind of true).

>>28679656
>and you've never known a world without niggers and televisionslop either, my rapidly aging millennial friend.
Lmao wrong faggot. I remember being able to go to the airport, NO TSA, go and watch planes take off, have a meal at the food court, and leave.

>>28679650
i've been using internet since at least 2012-13 i even remember youtube before transition period
>>28679653
>Social media started being a thing in 2006
yeah _started_ dumbass i still grew up playing with kids outside and without any of us having a phone
>>28679656
>just go sit in some of these cars and see if they are actually what you think they are.
i dont think i've ever been in a car newer than like 2010 anyway
i guess i've done my driving license in a brand new car, didn't like it. i like analog things, 70s-00s was when idea of a car was still being explored not it's all streamlined shit
>>28679659
i haven't even seen a nigger until a few years ago i'm european as i've mentioned
culture has been niggerized since at least the 80s probably closer to 60s but it took some time before it took off

>>28679664
Go get a BMW if you're European. Should be easy to find one used under €15,000

>>28679666
rusted to dust, ran through to shit, below 150-200k kilometers it's practically impossible and then still it's like $7-8k+ for a decent one

>>28679667
Spoken like someone who hasn't looked but smoked memes.

>>28679668
go look up civics from the time period and find something good at that price

>>28679669
I drove a Civic and I didn't like it at all. Being honest with you, I actually -hated- the Civic.
Currently I have a BMW m3 and it's my favorite car I've ever owned.

>>28679671
EK civic is about equivalent to the shitbox status of e36 here so that's why i'm mentioning it

>>28679673
Yeah I'm just saying as someone who had it as my daily, the Civic sucked and I hated it.

>>28679664
>started using the internet in 2012 at the earliest
lmao @ itoddler delusion
keep working at your pizza delivery job for a few months and you should be able to afford any 20 year old shitbox you want

>>28679676
>few months
*2 years

>>28679609
>rich
that car is like 60k.
have you considered getting a job?

>>28679559 (OP)
>born too late to buy a miata
You certainly not too late to buy a Miata.
You can find really good condition with low miles NA Miatas for less than $15k. You can find good ones with moderately high miles for less than $10k

>>28679644
Son, social media has been around since the late '90s. Myspace was in 2003. You didn't even have a fuckin AIM account on gods

>>28679659
>Lmao wrong faggot.
How am i wrong? Literally everyone born after the 60s has grown up in an extremely racially integrated niggerized culture in america at least

>>28679701
Wrong again I grew up in rural north Michigan.

>>28679691
median wage in the us is $40k fuckhead
>>28679698
yeah and electric cars are 100 years old your point? mass adoption dumbass

>>28679721
You're a mass adoption dumbass, we get it

>>28679723
i don't use social media unless you want to include imageboards to the definition and they aren't considered such by almost anyone

>Wanted a BMW 2002 when I was younger
>Good ones were around $8k
>Didn't have that much extra cash as an 18 year old
>Figured I'd wait until I was financially stable and then grab one
>Life happened, was a NEET for years
>In my 30s, remember the 2002
>All the ones around me are rotted out and good ones go for $50k

>>28679559 (OP)
You can still buy all those cars. The reason you don't is because you're a broke boy.

>>28679975
no shit

>>28679559 (OP)
I come from the future, luxury sedans and sports convertibles will become popular again. Use this information wisely

>>28679559 (OP)
You were born just in time to buy a Honda Hornet 750. This is the golden age of motorcycling that people will look back on for centuries.

>>28679990
i'm a scatterbrain i'd kill myself on a motorcycle

>>28679990
damn that's fucking cheap

>>28679633
The only good deals out of these are the Miata and maybe the 350Z if it's a manual HR

>>28679990
>Sudden lucidity while riding that what I'm doing is objectively stupid and the risk to reward ratio is far too skewed.
How do I get back to being reckless and retarded? Do I purposefully damage my frontal lobe?

>>28679990
I like transalp, t7. But hornet 750 and 1000f are great deals.

>>28679904
>decade ago
>in uni
>AW11 is $5-10k
>now
>earning ok
>AW11 is 15-30k

>>28680005
Keep riding, just slow it down. Get a versys 650 and just chill with it. Riding is not that dangerous if you ride safe

>>28680018
seems about on par with inflation

>>28680005
You can't. Once you've realized a certain thing is stupid, you can't go back to the happy ignorance. At this point, the best you can do is not look down on people who haven't had that epiphany.
T. Did a lot of sketchy shit. Still getting chewed out for stuff that NPCs think is sketchy.

>>28680005
realize that you're a shit rider and get professional training

>>28679609
Is that why zoomers don't drive anymore?

>>28680031
A 10k loan a decade ago is not the same as a 30k loan today.

Born at the right time to buy used Corollas.

>>28680018
>buy some part or tool
>within an hour see the exact same thing i just bought for a cheaper price on another site
although i have to see when the opposite happens it feels great
>buy something with one of the reasons being "price is only gonna go up"
>every few months watch as the price only continues to climb

>>28679559 (OP)
Hows it too late for a Miata? Every boy racer has one.

>>28679559 (OP)
I'll sell you my ek civic. I'm tired of dealing with its misfiring issues. Thousand bucks, tow it home.

>>28679559 (OP)
You can buy most of those cars without being a richfag, although a bit of wrenching knowledge is required.

>>28679637
With a 10k budget you can find literally hundreds of lowish mileage E36s or Mx-5s. I'm not gonna bother looking up the civic but I bet you can easily find good examples.

>>28679639
>you're trying to fit into an identity that you were never part of.
What the fuck are you talking about, wanting a simple car isn't an identity op just wants a simple car because they're cheap, easier to work on and more fun to drive.

>>28679559 (OP)
S2000s are neat but just get a gr86 with a supercharger. Rx7 interior is hilariously small, I'm 6'2 and could fit in an s2000 okay but the rx7 was a no Bueno for me.

I sold my s2000 for an frs and a supercharger and the only thing I miss is the 9000rpm redline and reliability. but I prefer everything else on the frs.

>>28680077
Zoomers don't drive because they can't get jobs or afford anything, and even an entry level car is insanely expensive. The average age to buy a house used to be 20 something now it's mid 30s. I suspect the same is happening with cars as well because the average price used to be 30k now it's 50k and wages have not kept up at all with that.

>>28679721
>40k
stop being mediocre then. I suggest making more

>>28679559 (OP)
anon, you can absolutely still buy an rx-7, prices have been dropping. Learn how to rebuild a rotary, do all the clean-up yourself, and you can get a ragged out FD for about $10k at auction, plus another $3k or so to import it. A gr86 is honestly a good buy, as is an ND miata (lighter than previous gen, finally doesn't look like a girl's car, decent horsepower).
Don't know why you'd want an ek civic unless you're a poorfag, in which case buy a renault megane rs ($6-8k used). Old civic type R's are actually cheap as fuck as well if you import one ($10k after shipping/fees for an EP3).

>>28679619
>>28679633
No bank will give him a $33k loan on an old shitbox at age 20.
$13.5k for an RX-8 is retarded.
$10k for a clean miata is fine, but I'd get a newer ND because it's so much better.
>also i'm in europe so everything is like 1.2x as expensive
Dude, get a fucking megane rs then. Or a fucking diesel giulia in manual transmission and tune it to 240hp for $500. That's a great option, because it's going to be your daily anyway but it'll also outhandle all the stupid cars in your head.
Or import a car from japan, because you have no 15 year or 25 year rule bullshit and get access to the cheap stuff first. You can get a GC8 WRX for under $10k all day long, miatas are cheap as fuck, and same with 86's.
The cheapest manual 86 I see on autoscout24 is 14,000 eurobucks with 161,000km (lol). You can get the exact same car with 81,000km for 5,100 eurobucks from Japan. Shipping from Japan to Europe is cheap (like $1200-1500). And if you buy at auction you'll probably save $1,000 - $2,000 over the prices I'm listing.
A mazdaspeed6 or mazdaspeed3 is literally $5k
Other great options: 1 series BMWs in manual
These cost around $3k starting for a 130i. They have hydraulic steering, manual transmission, and make good horsepower from either a NA engine or a turbo I6.
While car prices are retarded right now, used sports car prices are actually really good.

>>28680338
>and you can get a ragged out FD for about $10k at auction, plus another $3k or so to import it
Don't do this to me Anon, I am generally financially responsible, I don't buy things I can't afford on a loan, or don't blow half of my savings on a car, but if there was a running (even if poorly), non-crashed, non-rusty FD for that money...

>>28679667
I mean yes Europe sucks balls but have you considered a pre-suck Mercedes? The Sport trim CLKs aren't bad and cost less than that. >>28679990
A 750 Hornet is the blandest streetbike you can have for the money, if you're hunting for something that feels like it's from a golden era try something like an early crossplane R1 or RSV4 instead.

>>28680310
>The average age to buy a house used to be 20 something now it's mid 30s
First time home buyer average age is 38 in the USA now

>>28680310
What makes the 20 year newer car unreliable?

>>28679559 (OP)
Ah yes, luckily I'm old enough to remember when the government came and took all those cars away. The moment they stopped manufacturing them, the letters were sent out to owners saying they had to relinquish ownership,. and they were all towed to scrap yards. Such a terrible time to be alive... to think that not even a single car remains today. Not-a-one. Nada. Zilch.

>>28679559 (OP)
>cant afford miata
time to buy a 1.9 z3

A110 GTS

>>28680141
maybe ND, i'm too tall for one anyway
>>28680305
10k budget for a 30 year old car is pretty fucking steep considering you probably have to put in another few thousands into it after that
>>28680323
i don't make shit i'm a student
>>28680083
if you need a loan for a car you can't afford it
>>28680338
importing cars is a whole another thing, i guess it's much more expensive if youre in europe
>>28680415
pigfat and unreliable

>>28680595
>I’m a student
why haven’t you bought bitcoin yet?

>>28680338
>Don't know why you'd want an ek civic unless
Did americlapistan not get type-R ek9s and DC2s or something?

>>28679613
Sorry this is the brand which has a subscription for heated seats right? The one known for electrical problems, overengineering, and mechanical failures? The one that has intentionally designed their new cars to be impossible to wrench on yourself?

Do you actually think you're a car enthusiast because you bought some piece of shit beamer with your dad's money? Drive it off a fucking cliff please.

>>28680662
Because it's too expensive to buy now. We missed out. There will no more 10,000% returns from anything in my lifetime. Guess I should kill myself because I was 16 and worried about highschool when I should have been mining in the early days, and thought etherium was a shitcoin when that came out.

Honestly man I got an engineering degree instead and watching useless fuckwits like the lady in HR that plays on her phone 75% of the day make more money than me makes me want to do a sass mhooting

>>28679559 (OP)
they still make miatas though? if you're ok with an ND1 they're pretty cheap nowadays.
>>28679592
what the hell is a gnome
you people make up new shit to be scared of every single week

>>28679559 (OP)
>born just in time to buy a 2011-2017 3.7 mustang b4 they experience the drift tax

Screenshot this and look at it 10 years from now. Also check 'em

>>28680689
>WE
You. I told you to buy Bitcoin years ago and you didn’t listen.
And I’m telling you again: buy Bitcoin NOW.
Don’t cry me another river in 5 years when it hits 1million USD

>>28679644
>i'm old enough to remember world pre social media
you mean when you were 2 or 3 years old?
my little brother is older than you and he doesn't remember pre-social media.

>>28680699
I don't really believe it's gonna 10x again, even if I did Canadas libtard government has made sure I have no money to invest, I'm in debt, I can't even get a job on the pipeline anymore because the tree niggers think shipping oil in semis and trains is better for the environment. I'm fucked anon, I didn't get in on the ground floor and it's ogre for me. I have to 'own nothing and be happy about it'

>>28680699
I made the terrible decision of becoming an electronics engineer, but every single Canadian engineering position is filled by a pajeet or chinamen on our H1B equivalent or some gay student visa. I should have picked some useless job and got a business degree or became a lawyer but I'm an autist that enjoys fixing things. I did everything they told me to to be successful and now I have nothing. I don't even have $1000 to invest in BTC and $10,000 in 2030 isn't gonna fuckin save me.

>>28680662
DUDE I WANTED TO BUY BITCOIN IN FUCKING 2013 I DIDNT HAVE THE MONEY, I WANTED TO MINE ETH IN 2016 I DIDNT HAVE A PC HOLY FUCK
AND DO WHAT WITH MY $200 of bitcoin?

>>28679559 (OP)
Born just in time for the new frog memecar

>>28680338
wtf are you talking about FDs are more expensive than ever. it's like 20k for shells, 30k minimum for a running car, closer to 50k if it's not riced and cracking 80-100k for a properly clean survivor

>>28680795
I posted one awhile back (2001, dented door and side panel). Went for well under $20k despite only needing minor repairs.

>>28680376
You can be poor and seethe forever or you can go for your dreams.

>>28680801
It was in Japan.
>Fewer than 70,000 FD generation RX-7s were produced globally between 1992 and 2002, with approximately 14,000 sold in the U.S.

>>28680801
If that one went for 20k, then I don't think I want to see a ragged out one for 10k

>>28680595
10k is for a nice example that doesn't require work. You can get some ratted out shitboxes for much less but you'll have to do some wrenching if you don't wanna get raped at a shop.

Of course, none of this matters since you're not actually looking to buy a car. You just want to complain while fetishising yee shitboxes of old.

>>28680756
Bruh bitcoin was fluctuating between $50 and $150 for weeks at a time in 2013. How fucking broke can you be lmao?

>>28680429
>What makes the 20 year newer car unreliable?
A: adding a supercharger so it can keep up with a 20 year old miata (necessary with a pre face-lift gr86/frs/brz)
B: Subaru doesn't know how to design an engine that doesn't suck ass.

>>28680415
A 750 hornet costs $8000 and it's light, comfortable, and fun. It does wheelies in second gear if you shut the traction control off. It does 0-60 in 3.4 seconds. It's not "bland" by any stretch of the imagination, but you can commute on it or ride it in the city or ride it for hours without fatigue. It's like the pinnacle of its category which is something entirely new. Track bikes do not begin to compare.

>>28680870
Well I was 15 so pretty broke man, but more importantly I didn't know what the fuck a Bitcoin was

>>28680671
We never got the good trim of most jap cars until way later once gran turismo became popular

>>28680723
>I don't really believe it's gonna 10x again
this was what i thought after it crashed a few years ago. i should've just put in a small amount every month or so, would've made a lot more than what i have now but i still made some money at least.
just put in however much you feel comfortable losing every now and then, maybe each month and watch it slowly go up over time

>>28679586
>$30,000 for 200 HP
>not available in the US
>Stellantis Quality™
>>28679599
>$70,000 in your path
>BMW Quality™

>>28681177
>as quick as the '90s jap halo cars
>manual
>cheap

>>28680978
>I WANTED TO BUY BITCOIN

>>28680978
>didn't know what the fuck a Bitcoin was

Zoomers literally can't stop lying

>>28680771
i remember them demoing them like 5-8 years ago
>>28680870
back then it was actually hard to get bitcoin dumbass

>>28681226
>people panicselling
>hard to get
Maybe if you were retarded

>>28680844
>>28680807
>post supply
>doesn’t post demand
It sold for around $10-15k iirc, not sure if I screencapped it before I lost auction access. Even $20k for a 2001 in good condition that just needs a door ($250) and maybe $1-2k in touch-up work is a steal. You’re just a do-nothing-faggot which is why you’ll always be miserable.

You're still right in time for cheap WRX STis

>As fast as a newer sports car
>Still 100% mechanical with the only "bad thing" being a laggy e-throttle (leave it in Sport Sharp)
>Best steering and shifter feel out of any car that isn't a Miata or a S2000
>Mechanical LSDs front center and rear something the new WRX doesn't have
>Real AWD unlike the Focus RS/GR Corolla that won't break
>Tons of greenroom/visibility
>Aftermarket Support for Years and shops/tuners everywhere in the country
>Even if you can't make infinity horsepower in one, 300-350whp is still fun as fuck in a short geared <3400lb AWD car (GR can't go past 320whp without floating valves, RS can't go past 380whp without turning into FWD)
>Have depreciated out, the price floor is $10-14k for JDM GC8s or 100-150k mile GD 04-07s/08-14 GRs while every other car from the same time period is still >$30k

Take the STI pill they're really fun to drive

>>28681191
I grew up on a farm in the most rural backwater province in Canada besides NWT, and I think I miss the cutoff for zoomer. I did not know about cryptocurrency nor did I get paid an allowance for working around the farm to buy any. Our PC had windows 98 on it until I was 17. Get a fucking grip, not everyone had your specific life circumstances

>>28681496
What does you growing up on a farm have to do with you lying on the internet?

>>28681457
>136k miles
>19k
lmao, that thing is on borrowed time. just go with a civic si or elantra n line or the real elantra n if you got more money

>>28681457
Most STis have been owned by dickheads and are absolutely munted. The effort in de-ricing and repairing the damage from lack of maintenance means they're a project on par with a full restoration of some 60 year old classic.

>>28681457
What if I'm straight?

>>28681512
The secret is out re: them not taking to mods well and they sold a lot of them so there's a decent amount without mods. It's not worse than any other turbo car honestly.

The parts are stupid cheap brand new and the boxer rumble is fun. I think it sounds a lot better than the Evo I had before, the engine sound is probably one of my favorite parts of STi ownership it gives the car a lot of character and it sounds better than most turbo 4 cylinders comparable to it.

>>28681525
Then you're the dom top to Miata bottom boys

Love seeing this cope of "waah fun cars are too expensive" from losers. Guess what, you would've been crying 10 years ago as well.

>>28681500
Are you disabled? You can't comprehend that a child with limited internet access and no personal money surrounded by people who don't know or care about anything computer related wasn't gonna end up buying Bitcoin before it was mainstream? Not sure I even had a bank account at 15.
I'm not replying to this comment chain anymore. If you aren't trolling I'm genuinely baffled that you can't understand this, either way there's no point talking to you.

E36s used to be a dime a dozen around here around 10-15 years ago. now they are ridiculously expensive.
S2000s have always been at least 20k€ here

>>28681634
You said you wanted to buy.
Now the story changed.
Why did you lie on the internet anon?

>>28681533
>18k for a modified SHITbaru
wtf?

>>28679559 (OP)
>born too late to buy a w124
>born too late to buy a crowd victoria
>born too late to buy a monte carlo
>born too late to buy a volvo station wagon
>born too late to buy a saab
>born too late to buy an oldsmobile aurora/alero
>born too late to buy a pontiac
>born too late to buy a v6 camry
>born too late to buy a 1.9 TDI
I just want a simple reliable normal car.

>>28679599
RICED

>>28680801
>>28680338
>le cheap JAY DEE EM auction car maymay

Only retards or people who are going to destroy the car anyway (track, stance, or drift builds for example) should do this. If you want a decent street car to drive and admire do not be tempted by the $15k JDM auction FD, it will need $10k+ in body work to make it nice and probably still will need a rebuild within a year since it has been either sitting unroadworthy or abused or they wouldn't be trying to sell it to dumb americans. Don't discount interior problems. If the car has a clapped or modded interior, good interior parts are insanely expensive now.

>It's just cosmetic
Body work is the single most expensive thing you can have to do to a car. Even in rotary world where engines are crazy expensive now compared to 10 years ago, a rebuild at a reputable shop will cost you less than a good paint job with zero body work. Add hundreds for every dent, thousands for any body panel that needs to be replaced. DIY body work and paint are doable but incredibly time consuming and require space to set up a makeshift spray booth unless you want a bunch shit your paint. It's beyond 99% of /o/ posters.

Current market minimum for a nice (no retarded body kit, no shitty journal bearing single turbo kits, no badly installed mods like shitty V mounts or hot air intakes) LHD FD is $30k. Everything below that is either a project or modded in ways that harms its value. The tariffs have impacted imported parts prices too, many things were half the price imported that they were from US suppliers, and after shipping still much cheaper. I haven't placed any orders in a year so I'm not sure how badly the prices have gone up but I've heard it's noticeable.

>>28679559 (OP)
>>born too late to buy a miata
nigga wut

>>28679559 (OP)
What are you looking for and what is you price?

If it is just RWD, then I would look at some smaller pickups like a S10 or Ranger. If it needs, to be a car, then check out some 10th gen Thunderbirds or a Solstice/Sky. Pretty much covers everything. Those Jap cars are too expensive, same with the German ones. Sure they are nice, but compromise for now and then, when you can afford what you want, then buy it.

>>28682287
Buy a frontier, no Goyota tax and just as reliable if you don't forget maintenance exists

>>28682378
american cars dont exist outside of america and i don't want them either

>>28682389
The Solstice and Sky were sold worldwide under different names. It was an Opel and a Daewoo too. No clue as to whether there was a Vauxhall version or not.

I had a feeling that you were European.

>>28682400
well i've never seen one and i see 1 listed currently
us market is pretty irrelevant outside of the US and maybe australia or mexico or something

>>28682413
Canada... Mexico does not receive the same models and Australia get completely different models.

Why not a 3rd gen Twingo? Apart from the Renault quality. Your alternatives are Smarts...

>>28682424
is GM paying you or are you just particularly fond of their shitboxes

>>28682428
nvm that's the other 2 frog brands

>>28679701
My hometown was 98.7% white as of the 2020 census.

>>28679559 (OP)
The new Miata is actually fast, like what are you talking about?

>>28681457
I would agree, but not for any with that miles. There are ones with less miles in the 20's which is enough to justify getting a used STI over a camry or newer corolla

>>28682431
Smart is a Mercedes subsidiary and has a plant in Germany. Renault is Frog, though.

Not paid by GM, half of the models in my first post were Fords. Just hate Chrysler products.

>>28682444
i'm too tall for one
>>28682481
i had it confused for citroen and peugeot which are both stellantis
renault has always been pretty shit with few exceptions but those are more of hot hatches than entry level sports cars

>>28679619
>bro finance this depreciating asset!
and I wonder how people are stupid enough to buy new cars, but this dolt takes the cake!

>>28679559 (OP)
The 911 or 718 is still available

>>28679619
>$33k for a car that was only $11k when it was 15 years younger in 2010 with even less miles
Wtf happened here? I used to look at s2000s, 300zx twin turbos, 3kgt vr4s, rx7s, e46 m3s, e36 m3s and so on and these were all $7-15k cars in 2007-2010.

Even ferrari 355s and testarossas with under 10k miles (which was a lot on a ferrari back then) were $55-70k in 2010. A diablo was $120k a countach was $80k. Tf is going on?

>>28684837
>jews print money
>this devalues existing money
>jews keep the extra money of course and use it to buy real assets
>prices of everything go up
Meanwhile
>young kids and drivers continuously consume older vehicles (wrecks, mileage, etc.)
>consequently supply of used cars is constantly decreasing while demand is variable
On top of:
>all new cars are shit, so even richfags are buying older cars