Thread 28689638

Third gen camaros were pure soul
I don't even care that they were slow

Trans-Am was cooler.
Both need an engine swap to be a worthwhile driver today.

>>28689777
At this point, any rust free version would be acceptable.

Ls swap and good suspension would be a fun car.

>>28689777
>hurr needs engine swap
Just needs some flowmasters for dat noise to crooz.

>>28689638 (OP)
Need one with a turbo Vortec 4200 “Atlas” inline 6 for that sleeper with aerodynamics by maytag.

>>28689638 (OP)
For me, it was the Berlinetta, the "Starship" Camaro (with fully adjustable, retractable interior control pods and a radio that swivels)

>>28690345
Aesthetics Straight out of the last starfighter. Nice anon.

>>28690336
If you want to drive a janky-ass 305 with less power than a granny-spec Civic, you do you bro. I'm with this guy >>28690061

>>28690402
I do actually

>>28690410
Tragic.

>>28690413
Quadrajet go brrrr

>>28689777
>Both need an engine swap to be a worthwhile driver today.
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU NEED 500 HP MINIMUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Faggot ricer

>>28690410
NTA but I'm more of a tree fiddy kinda guy

>>28690402
This poster has never turned a wrench in their life. Probably posts on here after they take their car to a shop asking
>am i getting heckin scammbarinoed br/o/s?

For me, it's the 4th gen with its comedically long gears

>>28690402
>jank 305
The LB9 paired with a manual made 230hp and could hang with a LT1 powered 4th gen. Not all 305s were base model RSs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Kw_nIBQ6M
>>28690410
Sick color, is that an '84?
>>28690505
Sucks the 350 is auto only though.

>>28690736
Hows your hwy mileage?

>>28689777
Trips of truth. However, my 86 ta has a tpi 305, and its certainly healthy. No emissions or ac. Been reading up on standalone ecms, to see if i can get a little more out of it.

>>28690345
i've got a berlinetta but unfortunately its an 82 that didn't have the fancy digital dash. still a fun car and much cheaper because the digital dashes are sought after

>>28691071
How did America manage to make a V8 engine that big and that gutless?! Has it always been slow as hell or does it just seem that way since cars are a lot quicker these days?

>>28690791
About 22-23 prior to the rebuild, but that's also with a cam and glitter in the oil. The trip meter is how many miles are on it post rebuild so no clue now

>>28691095
just malaise era things, detuned for emissions regs
not as powerful like before, and not yet worked out new combustion cycles like after

>>28691071
>2025 Chevy Trax - 16.8s 1/4 mile @ 81mph
>1985 Trans Am - 14.7s 1/4 mile @ 89mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV0g5AL0u-I

>>28691095
1982 was the 1st year the pony car wars started back up and hp increased every year after.

>>28691095
Mostly overhead cam vs pushrod.
Add to that direct injection with variable valve timing controlled precisely by a computer compared to a naturally aspirated carburettor.
Then on top of that modern car parts are made in CAD and machined with tighter tolerances with the cars themselves being optimised into aerodynamic soapboxes using a bunch of software and testing.
What you end up with is the compounding of one or two significant innovations with a lot of tiny optimisations into the slow but unyielding effacement of any semblance of a soul the car could have had, all so that Karen can get pulled over going 60 in a 35.

>>28690755
>Sucks the 350 is auto only though
I'm debating getting a manual from Hawk's and just swapping it in since my autotragic is dying anyway. It'll be fuck off expensive to get those parts to yurop but I won't find all the parts in one place here.

>>28691071
>cool ass firebird vs some gay cuckover for faggots
It could be even slower for all I care, it's cool unlike that gay bloated piece of shit. And besides it's not like there are no later models with more HP anyway.

>>28691095
>What is torque
The same way they make gutless 4 cylinders, not all V8s are "performance" engines

>>28692229
Regulations made them gutless. GM would have loved to give you 350hp.

>>28690908
Man, I'm digging that speedo.

>>28690901
Get rid of the TPI, you'll make more with a carb.

>>28689638 (OP)
Hell ya,
no American car respended the 80s better than Turd gens.

>>28692282
Statements that only make sense in context.

Didn't these things regularly get dumpstered by Fox Bodies?

>>28692451
>Fox Bodies
You mean the ugliest Mustangs ever made? Those fox bodies? The ones that even look worse than a Mustang II?

>>28692455
Dont say that in /o/, contrarian cheap faggots here love them. Though yes, they look like Escorts.

>>28692465
They're not even that cheap anymore. They're becoming "collector cars". Why anyone would ever want to collect a piece of shit like that is beyond me, but it is what it is.

>>28692451
Some Foxes were faster acceleration wise.
Handling isn't even close.
Fox bodies have SHIT suspension geometry.
That's why they mostly got popular with drag racing.

>>28692455
>You mean the ugliest Mustangs ever made?
That still puts them ahead of so many other cars.

>>28691071
...dumbass wrenchlet you nu-males should be hung lol so stupid, every day you faggots are eating though, the shit isn't fair, it isn't just

This car always reminds me of my uncle. He had a black one and he's a huge Raiders fan. Its soul is pure 80s.

>>28692610
>no argument

>>28692455
Nah.

>>28689638 (OP)
>I don't even care that they were slow
why do ppl keep repeating this meme?
6s 0-60 was bloddy fast in the 80s

>>28689777
230-250hp that later tpi camaros had is absolutely enough to have fun even today, especially considering the torque you instantly get from that v8. youll still leave behind miatas, toyobarus, base model bmws and the like and youll still have plenty of power to be faster than 95 percent of traffic, even on highway. quit pretending every car needs to be a 1000hp rocketship to be cool

>>28692283
If carbs are so good, why arent we using still using them?

>>28695124
Its true. My birb cruises nice, and is fun to autocross with.

>>28695553
emissions

>>28695553
>If carbs are so good, why arent we using still using them?
shit anon i didn't realize that they were selling street-strip cars straight from the factory all these years, how could I have missed that.
watchout that fucking 2 liter corolla is gunna catch you

>>28690341
I've wanted to do this with a 5spd and AWD

>>28692455
This is rage bait

>>28690410
Love the color. It's similar to my 94 camry wagon.
>>28689777
checked
like them both but if given the choice id lean towards the trans am

>>28691071
who cares?


you're not buying a 30+ year old car to be the fastest car on the road

>>28695115
Kids

>>28695115
Zoomies,they never drove an actually SLOW vehicle

>>28689638 (OP)
>>28689777
I heard third gens force you to stick your legs straight out to reach the pedals, is this true? Doesn't sound comfy at all

>>28697055
My twin dove a 91 Camaro and she's only 5ft4.
Idk what retard told you that.

>>28697055
>t: Papa Smurf

>>28691095
Tiny camshaft with low duration and lift.
Low compression. Shit timing curve. Shit fuel delivery. Shit cylinder heads. Shit catalytic converters, restrictive exhaust manifolds.
Change all this out and you can make a 305 'fun'.

>>28695124
I have a 5 speed 305 tpi 230 horse. It's still a fun car. Slow compared to modern cars obviously, but who cares. V8 go brr. I also have a 350 TPI car as well.
The TPI system is extremely outdated for sure. It's almost a 40 year old system. Both of my TPI cars have had computer issues. I can't see many stock TPI systems surving into the far future. I will be going aftermarket eventually. Maybe even LS swap. The off idle torque with the stock cam is hilarious though. Gobs of torque from 1500 to 3k. There's no point in revving a stock TPI car over 4500 - 5000, they just make more noise and don't actually go anywhere. Thanks long intake runners! You can put along out accelerating normie traffic at 2000 - 2500 all day.

I think the best look would be:
1982~ trans am front bumper
1984 trans am side ground effects
Either a Camaro duck bill spoiler or a trans am aero spoiler
Trans am hood
sleepy eye headlights mod
Digital dash
Blue body, with purple or black accents
>>28690061
Some company came up with a complete suspension overhaul/swap, but it's like 19000.
I wish Chevy would make a car with the third gen look based on the alpha platform, or at least in the future that advances with metal 3d printing allows us to make cars with the same exterior dimensions and looks, but modern materials and unibody
>>28691431
You got a third gen in Europe? That's pretty cool

>>28692573
Have you ever seen the Florida training video with the police fox body, door mounted shotgun, and mp5? Probably was one of the cooler assignments a cop could have

>>28698118
>You got a third gen in Europe? That's pretty cool
Yeah, it's a 1988 Formula, pic rel >>28690505
I already have 1982-84 front and rear bumper covers to transplant onto the car because the Formula covers with those black plastic bumperettes are a tragedy. Problem is, and I found out the hard way, the shock absorbers are different between the 82-84, 85-90 and 91-92 models so the covers don't fit. I'll probably just hacksaw some of the rubber away because I'm not going to pay $50 plus $100 shipping for a piece of rubber I'm not sure even came off the first two model years of the car.

>>28690502
>ricer is when you want more power in your car
kek the absolute state of numales on this board