Thread 28700420

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>>28700420 (OP)
you've made the same thread every few weeks at around the same time

why

>be me
>routinely make 300km trips to the city and back
>never see any chargers anywhere (because nips aren’t retards)
simple as

>>28700465
>300km
180 miles?
oh no

>>28700480
What is the etiquette for charging in Japan (not Corea)

>>28700445
>All the internet is just one guy
Are you okay little guy?

>>28700420 (OP)
Here's the thing. I don't have the equipment to refuel or recharge a car at my house, I have to do it elsewhere. With a normal vehicle, I put my 10 gallons in at the station in 5 minutes and I'm good to go for three round trip commutes. And that fuel takes me pretty much the same distance whether it's 95 degrees or -10 degrees.
With a new base model Nissan Leaf, I can't do one round trip commute in the winter.
When you come up with battery chemistry so I can get even 200 miles per charge in any weather, then I'll consider it

>>28700668
You shoukd really sort out your living conditions, before you think about trying to participate in pur little hobby.

>>28700627
yeah, everyone on /o/ just reposts the exact same screenshot of a 2022 article every few weeks to bait retards

>>28700668
>When you come up with battery chemistry so I can get even 200 miles per charge in any weather, then I'll consider it
are you stuck in 2019?

>>28700690
I get it, your're a rubber tubber.
You saw a rubber tub once, now you think all tubs are made of rubber.

>>28700691
>in any weather
is the key factor there. To get 200 miles of real world range in -10 weather you need something with an epa rating of like 350-400 miles (which it'll never hit even in perfect conditions cause it's acceptable to just lie on the spec sheet)

>>28701258
>>28700668
That's just poorfag cope, and Big Oil FUD.
The firm I work for runs a fleet of Teslas and our sales team drive all over the country in them.
Most get about 400 miles on a full charge and our fleet management system confirms this.
In the real world Teslas have pretty damn good range, as well as performance and that improves with updates and as new models arrive.
The team love them, and they could choose an ice if they wanted, but literally nobody wants one when they have the choice.
What it looks like is the only people who are upset about EVs are the ones who are enturbulated about not being able to afford one.

>>28701546
been a while since i saw this pasta

>>28701550
Actually, what i wrote is true. We are ISO compliant and independently audited.
For this reason we use Zoom meetings where possible, but due to the nature of our work our people have to be on client's sites regularly.
Teslas are perfect for this compliance, and they also save us a pile of money on gas.
Not to mention our team love them.
When we first started making the switch over, we had a combination of Teslas and older executive cars and everyone wanted the Teslas. Now our fleet is going strong and we will rotate new ones in as they get too old.
The mileage and performance is fantastic.

>>28701553
>We are ISO compliant and independently audited

>Being faggots
>Drive Tesla

Every fucking time

>>28701577
Independently audited mileage completely dispells the Big Oil range FUD.
What's more interesting is Tesla's crazy performance.
If you are into cars, and have never driven one of these, you just can't comprehend gow fast they are.
That's why they have pwned all the car meets since they came out.

>>28700714
Wat

>>28700670
How dare someone lives somewhere with even a month of subzero temperatures. Absolutely preposterous. Why doesn't everyone just move to California?

>>28700420 (OP)
>tfw just put nearly 10000 miles on my car from a roadtrip 2 months ago

>>28701715
The temperature thing is Big Oil FUD.
See
>>28701546
>>28701553

>>28701730
Time for a M3 tessie.

>>28700420 (OP)
>why do you want X? You don't NEED X, so X should be banned!
Death to Stalin.

>>28700420 (OP)
>when was the last time you drove 300 miles?

>>28701735
For short range i'd probably be down for EV, but for roadtrips I'd keep to hybrid until Elon deploys massive charger stations on parity with the number of gas pumps across rural america. Too many times I passed places where there was only 1 or 2 chargers and people were already at them, i'd be way too annoyed with that shit. I already saw he's building massive stations for chargers in Cali. I'll wait until 2030-2035 to reevaluate it.

>>28701546
>big oil fud
>tesla is full of plastic
>plastic is made from oil

>>28701546
hello chatgpt! did you you finish my KPI tables yet?

>>28701734
Brother. I'm russian. I know everything about snow. I also personally know the first guys who brought the first Teslas into the country (including the one who put an interior from the 7-series into one). They lost range from cold batteries, they lost range from having to warm your balls up, they lost range even from just the studded winter tires, as we've found when we swapped to them too early. Any deviation from average California conditions, and they lose range.
A modern 400 km Tesla is good enough, you can slash its range in half and still drive all week without having to find a charger. A fucking Leaf does not survive the winter unless you have a personal charger at home. Most people here live in apartaments with street parking, and most who don't either don't have the electrical infrastructure for more than just wall plug power or/and live far enough from civilisation that they actually need all 400 km of range and more to make it work (yeah, by the way, nobody drives the speed limit here, and surprise, a Tesla barreling at 180+ km/h from a rich guy's forest retreat to Moscow does not have 400 km of range. ain't nobody got time for hypermiling).
You wanna know another funny thing? These fucking failures. They have never been sold here new, and yet they were relatively popular to import from ze germans (until ze germans decided that they don't want roubles). Drive around town on electric power, drive out of town and during winter on infinite range from the generator, siphon electricity from every wall (by questionably legal means), pay tiny taxes, it's super cheap to own 'round here. And it is, surprisingly, stupidly reliable. Actually well-built, unlike Tesla. If you wonder where all of these guys went, we have them. Opel Amperas too, though those suck.

>you want pussy?
>When was the last time you stuck your dick in a pussy?

>>28701734
>I'm just going to repeat the same phrase and undefined acronym over and over to make me appear authoritative and legitimate
Listen, you might find range anxiety and spending a half hour at a charger every other day to be an immersive part of the experience but I don't. I don't hang out at gas stations anymore than I absolutely have to. If it's not capable of doing what literally any normal car can do any day in any weather it's not a viable replacement. I've looked at something like a Volt because it's an electric with a range extender engine - but they have a price premium on them because everyone else likes that about them too. I've owned a first gen Prius before. I'm not allergic to new things, I just don't want to pay more to get less.
>just get an at-home charger
House only has 100amp service, garage doesn't have power running to it at all. It would cost more than what the electric car would ever save me in gas to upgrade the house, run power to the garage, and then get a level 2 charger.

>>28700420 (OP)
300 miles in EV = 150 miles in real life.
You are in constant fear like a mouse

>>28700420 (OP)
why are progressives like this?
>You don't NEED a gun (just rely on the community de-escalation officers to talk to the feral brown person wanting to rape your daughter and wife)
>You don't NEED to own a house (just live in an apartment forever, it'll be diverse and walkable)
>You don't NEED a safe community (let's import feral brown people)
etc etc?
How about just leave people alone and stop trying to mommy every aspect of their day to day lives. thnx.
>inb4 "But conservatives won't let girls murder their babies"
shut up faggot.

>>28701809
Debunked.
See
>>28701546
>>28701553


>>28701807
You should sort out your gousing problem

>>28701809
ICEV owners live in constant fear that one of the 200,000 parts in their car is going to break lol.

>>28701839
maybe stellantis product enjoyers live in fear of that. I'll give you that.

>>28701846
And GM, VW group, ford, toyota, kawasaki, honda, JLR, any ICEV really

>>28701839
>live in constant fear that one of the 200,000 parts in their car is going to break lol.

you can have major components on ICE vehicles fail and they still run, you lose one little cooling hose or the wrong resistor in an EV and the entire thing is bricked

>>28701837
>my anecdotal experience deboonks the numerous tests showing electrics can use up to 3 miles of indicated range per mile of travel in cold weather conditions
Just say you like the things and you don't want to hear dissent, it would be more straightforward and honest. I'm not telling you that you can't like them

>>28701863
>Timing belt snaps, destroying your engine
>Head gasket goes, destroying your engine
>Engine siezes, destroying your engine
>Crank bends, destroying your engine
>Big end punches through your block, destroying your engine
>Small puddle hydrolocks your engine, destroying your engine
>Bad fuel destroys your engine
Etc etc etc
ICEV's are really unreliable

>>28701866
>deboonks the numerous tests funded and performed by Big Oil
Yes

>>28701874
>posts a list of worse case scenarios that barely happen

there a millions of cars running for hundreds of thousands of miles trouble free

you're just coping lol

>>28701816
The idea is that you don't need a gun because there aren't feral brown gorillas, you don't need a house because apartaments and surrounding areas actually provide the things you need, and you don't need a car because there's good public transport. But in practice, they are trying to take things away before they give you replacements, because we elected talentless hacks.

>>28701863
I'm hoping when they figure out the next jump in battery technology it's less volatile than LiPo. I'm not saying they go bad all the time, just that when something does go wrong it goes really really wrong really quickly

>>28701878
well, throughout history trusting any authority to decide what you need/don't need, or even what is best for you, hasn't worked out so well.
so, because i'm about 20 minutes out from any kind of police response, and live in an area with active bear and cougar populations, i'll keep my guns, and I'll keep my car and truck for similar reasons.

As for the apartment, it's a better quality of life being rural, so no thx :) (not to mention cheaper than a bedroom apartment in the nearest town, jfc)

>>28701893
I mean, Japan decided that they don't need guns (and swords) in the 40s, and look where they are- some of the lowest crime rates in the world in a country packed like sardines. Not just because they have no guns, but also because of a well-educated general population, they work in tandem to create an extremely safe country with neither inscentive, will or means to crime.
Meanwhile, USA refuses to educate their black population and make all of them upstanding members of society, because americans are fucking racist and want to hate someone. Send all the niggers to medical schools and see how crime plummets.

>>28701874
>what if I slip on a banana peel while a baby grand piano falls on my head

>>28701874
>battery cell 1 failed, putting the car on fire
>battery cell 2 failed, putting the car on fire
>battery cell 3 failed, putting the car on fire
>battery cell 4 failed, putting the car on fire
>...
>battery cell 4280 failed, putting the car on fire
we can play this game too

>>28701901
Japan has a mostly homogeneous population. The foreigners that are there commit a disproportionate amount of crimes.
blacks in America commit a disproportionate amount of crime. The public schools with the most black students are the ones that get the most funding to try and educate them. It doesn't work. I'll remind you that they had to redefine the limit for mental retardation from 85 iq to 75 iq, because at 85 over 50% of the black population would be classified as retarded. You can't teach a goldfish to do algebra, and you can't teach a black to be White. The top 5-10% of them, yes, they can be functional members of society (like Clarence Thomas). The rest of them, simply can't (like Ketanji Brown Jackson or Maxine Waters)

>>28701917
>The public schools with the most black students are the ones that get the most funding
No, it's the ones where the higher-ups steal the most money. Why do you think being a public school principal such a lurkative position? These motherfuckers make CASH on niggas' behalf. They are the guys you actually need the guns for, not for a honest nigga just trying to make ends meet because the system has failed him.

>>28701901
i'd suggest that perhaps Japan would still have incredibly low crime rates even if every one of their citizens (not imported diversity, incl whites, desu.) had firearms.
Similarly, whites in the US have very low gun crime rates. They of course skew the statistics (by 'they' i mean progressive vermin with a disarmament agenda) with suicides to muddy the waters.
It all points to a deeper problem though, if government cannot trust the citizens to behave in a somewhat decent manner, then you don't really have a country, nor a society, and you're going to wind up with a fucking police state -- because you're relying on MOMMY to coerce good behavior versus it being internalized.

>>28701877
There are proportionally magnitudes more EV's running for longer, as they have far fewer points of failure.
Why would you defend planned obsolesence?

>>28701904
>A vanishingly small number of batteries have failed
>Vs timing belts, which at some point have affected everyone

When articles like this came out, I knew it was over for the current gen of BEV's. Trying to dismiss the range anxiety is trying to dismiss the inheritly poor infrastructure that despite government assistance was not built.

>>28701931
>Japan would still have incredibly low crime rates even if every one of their citizens (not imported diversity, incl whites, desu.) had firearms.
If you read a bit of Japanese history... No, no they really wouldn't. A jap's default state is violence, violence that they have suppressed with education and channeled into productivity. Particularly the yayoi kind of japs that came from the south where all the equally violent mongols and chinks still are. Jomon are chill until provoked, but yayoi have been really fucking provocative throught history so they are also violent.

>>28701949
Okay anon.. I mean look at Swedes or the Dutch today. Organized violence vs low impulse control chimping and nogging.
Not even remotely the same thing.

>>28701837
I have a new EV, and I drive it every day. How the fuck do you debunk fact?

>>28700420 (OP)
>you keep 1000 minimum in you checking account?
>when's the last time you needed 1000 dollars?

>>28701874
>>Crank bends, destroying your engine
>>Big end punches through your block, destroying your engine
>>Small puddle hydrolocks your engine, destroying your engine
>>Bad fuel destroys your engine
Kek, this has to be bait.

>>28701935
Fewer mechanical drivetrain parts does not mean fewer points of failure, retard-kun.

>>28701937
>>A vanishingly small number of batteries have failed
Find me any stock car in the last 40 years that bent a crank or threw a fucking rod and wasn't a result of neglect or abuse.

>>28701982
>>>/n/

>>28700420 (OP)
But I would drive five hundred miles
And I would drive five hundred more
Just to be the man who driven a thousand Miles
to kicked down your door

>>28701935
>There are proportionally magnitudes more EV's running for longer, as they have far fewer points of failure.

Lol the polar opposite of this is true

Go ahead and ask any insurance adjuster about the "longevity" of EVs and they'll laugh in your face

A minor ICE accident is a write-off for an EV

>>28702014
It literally does.
All those intricate, little ICEV parts, with their planned-obselesence built in, are designed to fail.
Defending that model is like a lung cancer sufferer defending big tobacco.

>>28702334
Those intricate little ICE parts were also relatively solved problems up until about ... 2010. It's partly as you noted a planned obsolescence thing, but also due to having to chase insane emissions/efficiency standards.
Do you think the engineers at .. company WANT to put a 4cyl turbo in a fucking full sized truck?

>>28702017
Easy, the L87 6.2L

>>28702334
>tfw my car is older than you with all of its original internal components
We tried your meme 100 years ago. It was just as worthless then.

>>28702358
Its not just the intricate little parts that have been built to fail in ICEVs, lots of engines demolish themselves via timing belts or chains, or numerous other basic functions, like cooling failures etc.
And yes, manufacturers benefit from using smaller engines, it drives profit margins higher for them.
Also, ICEV engines have been blowing up forever, not just since 2010

>>28701577
Are you gonna say he's a cuck for writing numbers down or something?

>>28702393
>Batteries aand electric motors from 100 years ago are the same as LFP batteries and motors from today
Low IQ post.
Im feeling generous today,.so i will let you have another go, if you think you can manage it.

>>28701839
If I drift into a curb going 60mph, will nothing break if the car is electric?
Id not, then there's no benefit to them at all.

>>28702405
So, it sounds like you can't drive.
This is not an EV vs ICEV problem.
You might be able to learn, with training, but some people just never get it.
If you are one of those people you can benefit from tesla FSD.

>>28701874
>What if a meteor fell out of the sky and killed you???

>>28702394
None of those are unsolvable engineering problems, guaranteed with an ICE engine.
A late 90s early 2000s Toyota engine will outlast the rest of the car if it’s not abused or neglected. Hell even ford/chevy engines would realistically last over 200k miles. I think you missed my point about what engineering at whatever firm would want to do design wise, vs what they’re forced to do via bean counters and/or regulators.
The cost cutting and planned obsolescence issues here could just as easily apply to an EV.

>>28701878
Apartment living is inherently worse than having your own home, that you own.

>>28702413
>None of those are unsolvable engineering problems, guaranteed with an ICE engine.
They are built into the ICEV intentionally.
ICEVs are designed to break, amd always have been.

>>28701937
More horses have died since they were invented, therefore roller skates are a better form of transportation

>>28702334
Every resistor, inductor, and capacitor is a point of failure, retard.

>>28702417
>Resorts to childinsh name calling, forfeiting any argument
I accept your complete surrender.
Lets be honest, you were never making any strong arguments anyway.

>>28702334
The number one killer of cars is rust.
The absolute most beat up, worn out abused mechanism can still be convinced to work, but if rot gets its teeth in there's nothing you can do.

So how does an electric vehicle avoid that?

>>28702365
>a manufacturing defect on one specific part of one specific engine might cause crank bearing wear
Fucking kek
But those cases of Teslas and chinkEVs catching fire don't count because... reasons, right?

>>28702415
oh no, a timing chain that needs to be replaced once every 150k miles. give me a break. Engineers can design a roughly bullet proof ICE engine. That they aren't allowed to actually make one in 2025 is a TOTALLY SEPARATE CONVERSATION
something you seem to have a really, really hard time figuring out.

>>28702431
>completely ignores the actual point I made
>I a-a-a-accept your c-c-concession

>>28702393
Hey in all fairness, the battery chemistry and engineering is WAY different. Motors are still ultimately the same, but those were the good part.
I do think that batteries aren't quite up to the task though. And who knows how much they can be improved. Hybrids are better anyway

>>28702409
So electric cars are built to fail, got it. My old F body took those like a champ. It easily had decades more life in it too, if it wasn't torched by a beaner

>>28702440
You blew it, you had wvery chance to try and present a coherent debate, but you just couldn't manage it, and you resorted to petty insults.
That said, you built your argument on the weakest foundations anyway
Maybe you can learn from this, and have better luck next time.

>>28702443
>Little guy can't drive
>Blames the car
Female detected

>>28702444
>still deflecting
>you said one meanie-weanie word so nothing you say cooounts!
Take your hecking debaterino faggotry back to plebbit, nigger.

>>28702449
Yes, you failed in basic debating.
I guess you struggle to understand basic concepts at every level.
I gather you didn't receive the greatest education in your formative years.
Not to worry, society will always need menial workers, and you will get minimum wage at least.

>>28701930
I'd have more sympathy for that 'honest nigga' trying to make ends meet if they weren't committing crimes to do it. Stuck working a dead end retail job to make ends meet? I feel for you, I've been there. Stealing my catalytic converter? I'll kill you.

>>28702447
>Car is too pussy to handle being used with some enthusiasm
Cringe car for cuck drivers

>>28700420 (OP)
I drive 300 miles every 11 days.

>>28700420 (OP)
I drive around 300 in a work week,refueling from empty to full tank takes 7 minutes including paying for gas etc
I do It around idk 5 times a month
I drive far less in autumn and winter (I hate those warm winters of last few years bros)

I might consider EV the day they add manual transmissions

>>28700668
You don't have an outlet in your garage?

>>28702688
>Crashes car
>Its somehow the car's fault
Female

>>28702688
>>28702697
Easy.
Just charge overnight while you sleep.
You actually save a bunch of time by not driving to and from gas stations, waiting in line at the gas station, the ten minutes pumping carcinogenic gas, waiting in line to pay (plus tip,) and thats not even including the money side of things.

>>28703024
>waiting in line at the gas station
In my 25 years of driving I've never had to wait in line for gas.

>>28703045
I mean, the lines at gas stations are admittedly getting shorter, as most people are buying new EVs now, and ICEV cars are being phased out.
That said, without the artificial demand for gas, there will inevitably be fewer pumps and stations, alongside higher prices, to deliver a niche product.
Think of some speciality fuels that exist already.

>>28703045
Queuing for fuel is a minefield.
You try to strategicly position yourself to see who will drive off from the pump first, while trying to remember what side your filler cap is on.
If you drive lots of different cars this is a problem.
All the while, someone who has left their car on the pump is taking a shit inside, or buying a week's worth of groceries from a gas station.

>>28703047
>and ICEV cars are being phased out.

EVs are barely 1% of all registered running vehicles on the road

Retard

>>28703108
>Globally, electric vehicles (EVs) made up just over 20% of new car sales in 2024, with projections suggesting this will reach 25% by the end of 2025. In the UK, the market share is higher, with 35.5% of new vehicle registrations in mid-2025 being either fully electric or plug-in hybrids.

Oh look, you have resorted to childish insults, forfeiting your argument.
Whoops!
Nevermind, you would have lost anyway.
Better luck next time.

>>28703154
>Nevermind, you would have lost anyway.

you have so little to work with you had to cherry pick "new cars sold this year in the UK" for any sort of figure

doesn't change what I said, you math illiterate, EVs are not even a meaningful fraction of cars on the road

>>28703171
>doesn't change what I said
Yes, you remain incorrect, and obviously overly emotional.
If you could control your emotions, you might be able to present a better debate. Until then, you just appear to be seething.

>>28703177
nice reply with zero substance, retrad

I win you lose

EVs are gay and will never replace ICE, statistics are on my side

>>28703197
>Doubles down on being overly emotional
Kek
Let's be honest here, you are just mad because you can't even afford a decent EV.
You are one of those second hand car guys lol

>>28703208
Ev cuck has ran out of his one cherry picked statistic and continues to pretend he is not mad

Since reality is on my side lets lol more at the failure of EVs:

They're rotting on dealer lots so bad Chrysler uncancelled the hemi

>>28703217
>Pretending EVs are not rapidly replacing phased out legacy ICEVs
Lol lets see how long you can play pretend

>>28700420 (OP)
I have done 8000 miles in my car in two years :?

>>28703220
>Pretending EVs are not rapidly replacing phased out legacy ICEVs


Hahahaha its much worse than I thought

>>28700420 (OP)
nigger

>>28702395
no that anon but no - he does this in all these pastas

>>28703258
Anons world view is shaped exclusively by watching CNN and r/fuckcars.

EVs are so cool. Imagine a whole car that for hundreds of miles drives entirely off its battery. That to me is magic technology. How the hell is that even viable? How many technical revolutions have now occured the past decade to make this possible? The comfort of driving a car and knowing there is no combustion engine to contend with is amazing.

>>28703637
And yet, most electricity is made by burning fossil fuels (unless you're in France). Picrel is the most common electricity source in the US - burn natural gas to make steam. It's stored as chemical potential energy in a battery.
It's just basic science, yo. (It really is)

>>28700420 (OP)
>OH you want to drive THREE HUNDRED MILES
>OH MY GOD that's SOOOOOO far
the gaslighting to make people buy these pieces of shit is hilarious

>>28703721
The only people who ever bring up range are EVfags as a strawman argument. No one else gives a shit.

When someone prefaces taking something away from you with
>do you really need ___?
They don’t have your best interest at heart.
And yes, in this case it’s taking away a much more capable vehicle.
>do you really need a magazine with more than 10 rounds?
>do you really need a homogeneous, safe community?
>do you really need to own a house?
Etc etc.
It’s also a very progressive line of thinking. Oddly enough

>>28703639
and yet EVs still burn less FFs over their lifetime vs. ICE vehicles. i've found it so funny rightoids suddenly becoming concerned about the environmental impact of energy consumption but only when it becomes politically expedient for them.

>>28703721
>Implying you wouldn't stop for a piss and something to eat in seven hours
The best thing about drives like this in a tessie, is the FSD driving for you.

>>28703781
1. EVs burn just as much fossil fuel over their lifetimes.
2. I'm a lefty. And an engineer. EVs are sold to people predicated on them "saving the environment" which is why I brought that up. I do care deeply about the environment and man-made global-warming is obvious.
If we went nuclear EVs would be the clear choice, but as it is they're the same as a gas car. Power plants are 25-55% efficient then there are losses in modulation, transmission, and within the EV. Then EVs weigh more than similar-sized ICE cars, F=ma.
A better solution to saving the environment is birth control.

>>28703781
>i've found it so funny rightoids suddenly becoming concerned about the environmental impact
We’re not. It’s just pointing out the naive, childlike tendency towards failing to grasp anything beyond proximal cause that progressives tend to fall into.
>I don’t see any smoke when I charge my car transportation appliance, therefore it’s zero emissions
>if we just continue to raise the minimum wage, eventually everyone will be rich
Stuff like that, basic midwit thinking.

>>28703795
EVs are a right wing phenomenon though

>>28703796
Look, you can’t be a Nazi and want to flood the country with jeets, no matter how many spicy hand gestures you make.

>>28703793
Math is wrong here fren.
Most developed countries (like china) use a lot of renewables. Even Germanistan has 50% renewables on average.
Grid scale powerplants are in their sweetspot of >50% efficiency most of the time. Gasoline Engines are almost never in that sweetspot, ESPECIALLY in city driving.
You are also ignoring regenerative breaking in your F=ma calculation. Once a speed has been reached the energy spent is mostly wind resistnace.

>>28702334
>with their planned-obselesence built in
anon
batteries don't even have them built in deliberately, they have planned obsolescense built into them by fundamental physics

>>28703800
didn't germoney had to ramp up coal purchases/burning to make more electricity after they shut most of their reactors down and russia stopped exporting their natural gas?

Thank you based ai
>Yes, electric cars are expected to take over the market, with many experts and car manufacturers seeing them as the future of driving, driven by government regulations and technological advancements. The transition is already underway, though it will happen gradually as EVs become more affordable and charging infrastructure improves.
Factors driving the transition
Government mandates: Many governments are setting phase-out dates for new petrol and diesel car sales, such as the UK's 2030 target for new petrol and diesel cars and 2035 for hybrids.
Manufacturer commitment: Major car manufacturers have committed to making their future lineups entirely or predominantly electric.
Technological advancements: Improvements in battery technology, vehicle range, and driving experience make EVs more appealing.
Economic factors: While upfront costs can be a barrier, EVs are generally cheaper to run, and the second-hand market for used EVs is growing, helping to increase affordability.
Lower emissions: EVs can be operated with electricity generated from renewable sources, offering a cleaner alternative to fossil fuels.

>>28703827
Yes, yes they did. They shut down ALL of their reactors. I grew up as a kid in '90s Germany (USAF), they fucked themselves in so many ways.

>>28703827
Yeah it's complicated but the short version is still that roughly 50% of the energy is from offshore wind and solar.
https://www.destatis.de/DE/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/2025/06/PD25_200_43312.html

>>28703855
Still looks like the majority is boiling water with burning fossil fuels to me.

>>28703800
I literally don't care, you'd do better by making fewer babies. Plastic is made from crude oil, batteries are made by extracting metals that will run out more-quickly than oil.

>>28703870
Sodium batteries are available already, and solid state batteries are a complete game changer.
It might not be what you want to hear, but its happening.
You can wither grow to like it, or just seethe over it forever i guess

>>28703870
You're talking about brown ones, right?

>>28703873
Well, we will all be caramel color in the end.
That way there will be no racism

28703876
i hate everything about you.

>>28703881
Huh? We are all on the same side now.
We are pretty much family

>>28703872
Still energy made my burning fossil fuels in a heavier vehicle.
I don't give a shit. We could make similar environmental gains in many other ways. Having fewer children is the ultimate environmental ace card - not storing fossil fuel energy in batteries.
I don't give a shit what you think. Why don't we make cruise ships or beef illegal? That'd have a bigger impact than changing every car from ICE to EV. Why don't we go all nuke for base-load and natgas for above that?
I absolutely believe in man-made global warming, but buying some EV isn't the solution.

>>28703872
>Sodium batteries are available already
Enjoy 30km range. Perfect for commuting inside your WEF human habitation zone.
>solid state batteries are a complete game changer
EVs need a complete game changer just to break even functionally. To say nothing of cost.

>>28703876
Niggers will dye themselves white at the first opportunity. Brown people in interplanetary space will be rarer than gingers.

>>28703639
>Amerifat
Even with China dirty electricity, EVs pollute less after just 10k miles.

>>28703793
>I'm a lefty. And an engineer
Nah I think you're an unemployed nigger

The best thing about EV isn't even it not killing the environment the same rate ICEV is. The best thing is that I can enjoy my rides in perfect quiet cabin with no bitch engine constantly reminding me that I'm driving a 19th century relic.

>>28704230
pretending this isn't bait for one sec, try driving something with an engine bigger than a 1.0L. hell most late model cars you can barely hear the engine anyway

>>28700420 (OP)
>range anxiety

just plug it in when you get home and unplug it before you leave the next day

>>28704245
And then have your gas economy be raped by a gas chugger

>>28704259
That's mostly the drivers fault

>>28701753
I'm surprised we haven't seen many(any?) 100mpg+ turbo diesel hybrid cars. Seems like an easy way to put up really great mileage/range numbers.

>>28704259
driver issue, lots of heavier cars and pickups that have engines way too small for their mass and their fuel economy is worse than the old NA v8 they used to have

>>28702017
Most people neglect and abuse their cars, anon.

>>28704485
Okay. That's irrelevant. Someone neglecting their car isn't a fault of the car, or the design thereof, which is why I made that distinction.

>>28703208
>>28702454
Advanced classes from elementary through high school. Engineering degree. Bought my GTI new, in full, one year out of college.
You still haven't addressed the point I made. You discount everything I said for one insult tacked on the end, yet you haven't offered anything BUT demeaning statements insulting my intelligence, ironically full of spelling and grammatical errors.

>>28704665
>Engineering
I am really glad for you, we need people like you, that we can train to operate machines for us.
This frees up your betters to do more importants things.
Good for you, and thank you for your service, have next Christmas off.

>>28704659
Electric cars dont need anywhere near as much maintainence, hence their service intervals are twice as long.
There's just so much more that goes wrong with old ICEV's, and EC's are pretty much bulletproof at this point

The electric gas chamber

>>28700668
>anon engages in good faith
You're wasting your time.

>>28705101
>smarmy faggot doesn't even know what engineering is
kek
Keep coping behind that smug façade.

>>28705300
>Machine operator wants a fancy title so he can feel important
LOL, relax there little guy, you did the best you could in life.
>Resorts to personal insults again, confirming your forfeit.
Thanks again for playing, little fella.
You know, i am feeling generous, so I will give you another go, if you think you can try and manage it.
I know you are out of your comfort zone, trying to use words, instead of digging a hole, or shovelling coal or what have you.

>>28705172
>Thread lasts three years.
Successful

>>28705361
This is starting to sound an awful lot like projection.

>>28705389
That's funny, from here it has sounded like you seething since yesterday, as you could't string a sentence together well enough to present a valid argument, then you had to resort to childish personal insults, forfeiting your feeble position.

>>28705409
>as you could't string a sentence together
>could't
>You blew it, you had wvery chance
>>Resorts to childinsh name calling
>Lets be honest
Hmmmm.
Something about geological specimens and clear silicate panels comes to mind.

>>28705414
>Muh typos
Kek seething so hard you want to be a free proofreader, huh.
I guess i must be a nice break for you from greasing machinery and digging trenches.

>>28705458
>seething so hard he can't even type properly
>still more typos
This is fucking hilarious.

>>28705462
>Trying this hard to recover, after forfeiting your argument
>Twice
>A day later
Kek.
Relax little guy, you have been up all night seething. You must be tired.
Thankfully your menial, wagie job doesn't take a high IQ to operate basic machinery.

>>28705470
You couldn't even refute what I said, and had to resort to nothing but cop-outs and the same stale middle school-level insults.
I'd be willing to be you don't even own a car.

>>28705470
You couldn't even refute what I said, and had to resort to nothing but cop-outs and the same stale middle school-level insults.
I'd be willing to bet you don't even own a car.

>>28705486
>You couldn't even refute what I said
You still haven't presented any compelling arguments, you have just cried about being a wagie and typos.
Look, I get it. Your career choice has left you as a permanently broke wagie with an superiority complex, and that's why you can't handle losing.
At the same time, you have to defend your poorfag wagie position. You have to insist that newer, better cars, which you can't afford, are somehow worse than old cars that are accesible to the poorest of life's "engineers."

>>28705486
>I'd be willing to be
Uh oh....

>>28705175
Yeah, I see that

>>28705489
>>28705499
Ahahahah oh my lord...
You are seething so hard you actually went back and fixed your typos and reposted.
Holy shit, you are going to have a stroke if you keep up this level of seethe

>>28705499
So you don't have a car.
Probably not even a decent job either, as much as you're coping about engineers being "wagies".

>>28705512
>>28705470
I do love operating my two-wheeled machinery.

>>28700420 (OP)
2 months ago, took a road trip that was roughly 600 miles one way so 1200+ miles round trip.
This coming up holiday, Thanksgiving and Christmas, gathering at my home town will be roughly 350 miles one way, so about 700 miles round trip.
So yeah I need a vehicle that can go at least 300 miles before I need to fuel up again.

>>28705512
>engineers being "wagies".
Aww he thinks he's not a wagie. That's adorable lol.
Remember that one time tjough, when you lost an argument on the internet, and then proceeded to seethe for two days?
Remember seething so hard you started deleting your own posts?
Kek this is great

>>28705518
Teslas got you covered.
That guy with the fleet of teslas has confirmed it

>>28705519
>Remember seething so hard you started deleting your own posts?
You mean proofreading, like you said?
>that one time tjough
Perhaps you should learn to do the same.
Oh, I love my vintage machinery too.

>>28705523
I rented a Tesla model 3 for one of my holiday trip couple years ago, it wasn't the extended range version, I still had to recharge it 4 times the first charge was to get it to full when I picked it up from Hertz, the 3 other times were on my way to my home town and I only charged each time for roughly 30 minutes each time just to get it around 80% and continue to my trip.
I personally can't stand the EV recharging time compared to fueling up with gas or diesel, I don't need a 20-40 minute rest time and would rather spend that time on the road to reach my destination sooner.

>>28705532
>I-i'm proofreading not s-seething ins-swear!
Kek heres somemeore typose fore you two hanna seizure over
>D-delete your posts
Lol, LMAO even
>vintage machinery
I guess you have to make do with what you can afford.

>>28705542
Seems to work for this guy:
>>28701546
>>28701553

>>28705859
>still no car or job

>>28700445
Its a popular topic in our little hobby

>>28705542
Where were you driving to and from?

>>28701874
laughs in my current truck.
>leaking transmission
>leaking engine oil
>leaking rear diff
>Noisy rear diff
>rear clutch packs worn down to nothing
>blown front shocks
> wierd ass 90's gm fuel injection acting up
>driveshaft bearing gone
>low pressure fuel pump louder than my engine at idle
>literally just yesterday, rear view mirror fell off onto my lap.

but my truck still starts up every time and gets me where i need to go

>>28707382
Socal to central CA, about ~350 miles one way taking the direct path via I-5.

>>28707817
Oh, so you are poor.
What you need is a lucky day.

>>28708799
Easy, the M3 tessie will do that, all tessies will, including the S Classe and Y Series.

Theres always going to be one or two people who can't afford to participate in our little hobby.

>>28707817
Beater life is best life. The money I didn't spend on trucks helped pay off my home early so I could retire in my forties and enjoy my motorcycle collection and workshops. I always have more vehicles than I need and keep most of them for decades. Self and machinistbro even give each other vehicles since if you wrench it's almost hard not to get flooded with them.

Multiple beaters are better than one pretty truck which is a single point of loss or failure, and give me more options like my '76 F350 wrecker or my 150 longbed with Tommy Gate (and, obviously, overload springs!).

FordAnon has even more than I (kudos!).

Late model trucks don't offer advantages commensurate with their absurd pricing. They're mechanic-hostile and stupidly expensive to repair. I could easily afford one at this point but I'd be ashamed to piss away money.