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Anonymous No.28702151 [Report] >>28702156 >>28702159 >>28702211 >>28702216 >>28702453 >>28702570 >>28702745 >>28703032 >>28703043 >>28703160 >>28704495 >>28707842 >>28708395 >>28708541 >>28708758 >>28708888
They keep reducing the cylinders. Will there be inline 2 engines in a few years?
Anonymous No.28702156 [Report] >>28702158
>>28702151 (OP)
>inline 2
Why no Inline 1?
Anonymous No.28702158 [Report]
>>28702156
You can't just skip over 2.
Anonymous No.28702159 [Report] >>28702164 >>28703700
>>28702151 (OP)
EUpeons already had a few cars with inline 2 engines
Anonymous No.28702164 [Report] >>28702204 >>28702214 >>28702573 >>28702749 >>28705762
>>28702159
fuck, inline 1 it is, then.
Anonymous No.28702204 [Report] >>28702698
>>28702164
We need to go back.
Anonymous No.28702211 [Report] >>28703703 >>28705194
>>28702151 (OP)
Fiat 126 from 1972 had inline-2 engine
Anonymous No.28702214 [Report] >>28705730
>>28702164
Already been there done that.
Brits did a bunch of thumper cars.

Also micro cars are a thing in Europe, their version of kei cars.
Anonymous No.28702216 [Report] >>28708127
>>28702151 (OP)
Lord please give me a turbo 1.2L single cylinder thumper whumper.
Oh lord please, make it a 2 stroke too.
Anonymous No.28702220 [Report] >>28702362 >>28707279
1 cylinder
10L
55hp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjCglWXU8Ps

We NEED to go back.
Anonymous No.28702246 [Report] >>28702299
We need to return to 2strokes too.

https://youtu.be/dXVRdSbKDT8?si=8h5R84mJtIpQ5DBh
Anonymous No.28702258 [Report] >>28702273 >>28702299
Coming soon, the two stroke sedan.
Anonymous No.28702273 [Report] >>28703340 >>28705897
>>28702258
>two stroke sedan.
Anonymous No.28702299 [Report] >>28702309 >>28705709 >>28708774
>>28702258
>>28702246
I wonder if with modern induction and exhaust tech 2strokes are actually viable for mass market, emissions aside. Fuel injected e-turbo 2stroke inline 6 engine would go unbelievably hard, probably.
Anonymous No.28702309 [Report] >>28702311
>>28702299
I got you bro
Anonymous No.28702311 [Report] >>28702713 >>28708421
>>28702309
Fuck
Anonymous No.28702362 [Report] >>28702445 >>28702567 >>28702722
>>28702220
A Lanz Bulldog car. I thought thetbwere only tractors. Any liquid fuel too. Bunker oil to alcohol. Waste oil and I bet with a short length of hose and a rubber seal, natural gas too.
Anonymous No.28702445 [Report]
>>28702362
Is that an Inline engine?
Anonymous No.28702453 [Report]
>>28702151 (OP)
Just drive a dirtbike
Anonymous No.28702567 [Report]
>>28702362
one
cylinder
Anonymous No.28702570 [Report]
>>28702151 (OP)
It's been done.
Anonymous No.28702573 [Report] >>28708560
>>28702164
I prefer boxer 1
Anonymous No.28702698 [Report] >>28702768 >>28703343
>>28702204
Impressive Inline 1
notamiata !!7jD4WzxN5if No.28702713 [Report] >>28703435
>>28702311
You know that image used to be a meme and now the cucks over at the EU are genuinely trying to figure out how to make that reality.
Anonymous No.28702722 [Report]
>>28702362
They'd also run on their own engine oil if you didn't spin the pump before starting.
Anonymous No.28702731 [Report] >>28702742
it's weird how little car people know about engines to think there are no twins.
motorcycles have had parallel and v twins for decades
Anonymous No.28702742 [Report] >>28703418
>>28702731
>parallel and v twins
Is that new?
Anonymous No.28702745 [Report]
>>28702151 (OP)
Fiat TwinAir
Anonymous No.28702749 [Report]
>>28702164
Anonymous No.28702768 [Report]
>>28702698
Those old school insane displacement 1 or 2 cylinder engines make my dick so hard.
700hp
out of a single cylinder
probably makes enough torque to spin the earth the opposite direction
Anonymous No.28702779 [Report]
>That unburnt fuel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef39OYR71oY

>Normal driving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxp1SLOsdAQ
Anonymous No.28702788 [Report]
The suzuki LJ50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ki7Sxd_Pk
Anonymous No.28703032 [Report] >>28705736
>>28702151 (OP)
Less is more. Inline 4s as they are is kind of ludicrous with the amount of perfomance you can get out of them with shit like the Ford RS200 Evolution getting close to 600bhp in the 80s and the newer Mercedes M139 getting close to 500bhp...at factory production baseline. As soon as you look at tuned engines you go beyond that and if your batshit crazy you can look at track made engines like Thor and Thor 2 which can go up to 3000bhp.

If you can squeeze that much out of just 4 cylinders going smaller in cylinder quantity isn't really a problem bar 4 cylinders being easier to balance compared to something like 3 cylinders. Beyond performance twin or single cylinders are just based on mere principle. Nothing comes close to reving single cylinder kinetically or audibly, it just pulls like a down syndrome's tard raging while enhanced by anabolic steroids. Two stroke twins have always been a based pick for bikes for similar reasons.
>inb4 muh top end speed
Again beyond perfomance, besides just make the cylinders bigger and half the time you won't get many opportunities to reach top speed in your car anyway even if it was a real concern. However you will certainly be doing more quick impromptu drag races at traffic lights when you come across a fag trying to fuck you around in another lane.
Anonymous No.28703043 [Report] >>28703053 >>28703057 >>28703443 >>28703710
>>28702151 (OP)
motorcycle twins make ~100hp out of 600-800cc of displacement, so i can actually see 1 liter ptwin making around 120-130 hp in something like a small hatch, and i wouldn't be even mad at it. Alto Works with 120 hp engine would be a really fun car to drive around town or on smaller tracks.
Anonymous No.28703053 [Report] >>28703200 >>28703449
>>28703043
Try 65-85hp. There's no way a ptwin for a regular car will get 100hp/liter, not even with a turbo. They'll be gunning for just enough torque at low revs not to bog down at a green light.
Anonymous No.28703057 [Report] >>28703133 >>28703200
>>28703043
Motorcycles make power at cost of lower torque though
Anonymous No.28703133 [Report]
>>28703057
And motorcycles can have low torque because they are very light compared to normal cars
Anonymous No.28703140 [Report]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHUlTVURuGY

hell yeah BRVTHER
Anonymous No.28703160 [Report]
>>28702151 (OP)
It will all be EV's bro
Anonymous No.28703200 [Report] >>28704441
>>28703053
Suzuki's 1.4L k14c i4 for their cheap-ish swift sport makes ~160 with just an ECU flash and can somewhat reliably (for around 60-90k miles) push out 200+ with basic mods. 100-130hp one liter twin seems very feasible to me, especially if we consider that engineering can smuggle a solid chunk of power in the higher revs and hide them behind emission compliant tune.
>>28703057
Power = Torque x RPM, routinely revving to 7k at each stoplight seems like a funny thing to do.
Anonymous No.28703340 [Report] >>28705841
>>28702273
Quintessential East german shitbox
Anonymous No.28703343 [Report]
>>28702698
That's a flat 1 not inline
Anonymous No.28703418 [Report] >>28704448
>>28702742
Anonymous No.28703420 [Report]
Toyota is regretting going with an i3 and replacing it with an i4. four cylinders will probably stay the minimum for cars as long as they burn gas
Anonymous No.28703435 [Report]
>>28702713
That's just an EGR
Anonymous No.28703443 [Report] >>28703538
>>28703043
>i can actually see 1 liter ptwin making around 120-130 hp
Are you dumb?
Anonymous No.28703449 [Report] >>28703538
>>28703053
Fiat has some 0.9L i2 turbo engine that has like 100HP. Can actually be remapped to over 120HP. Sounds like a fucking bee hive.
Anonymous No.28703538 [Report] >>28703570 >>28704873 >>28704891
>>28703443
>>28703449
105hp stock, almost 200Nm, 875cc of displacement. If fiat managed, anyone from big 4 can pull it off too.
Anonymous No.28703570 [Report]
>>28703538
*145Nm, flash gets you to 190
Anonymous No.28703700 [Report] >>28707845
>>28702159
Wat?
I know about 3 (like 1000cc aygos or something); never heard of 2
Anonymous No.28703703 [Report] >>28704498
>>28702211
>The chocolate maker
That's literally how it sounded
Anonymous No.28703710 [Report] >>28704441
>>28703043
There were these guys who put a 1300cc Hayabusa engine on a Smart
Anonymous No.28704441 [Report] >>28705180
>>28703710
Was just about to tell anon here
>>28703200
>routinely revving to 7k at each stoplight seems like a funny thing to do
that he wants a 'busa swapped smart car
Anonymous No.28704448 [Report]
>>28703418
Best kept secret
Anonymous No.28704495 [Report]
>>28702151 (OP)
>Will there be inline 2 engines in a few years?
You can get lancia with twinair 0.9 2 cylinder engine.
Anonymous No.28704498 [Report] >>28704501
>>28703703
In Poland we called it "kaszlak" - from characteristic "coughing" sound of the engine
Anonymous No.28704501 [Report]
>>28704498
It's called "peglica" in ex-yu, rough translation would be "small clothes iron", idk where that came from.
Anonymous No.28704873 [Report]
>>28703538
That's the one. Ex had one, I got it remapped in secret through a friend of a friend. Shit was so slow both before and after.
Anonymous No.28704891 [Report] >>28705250 >>28708516
>>28703538
The current CBR600RR (599cc) is 120hp (@1,300 rpm).
Its about 72hp @ 9,000 rpm
Anonymous No.28705180 [Report]
>>28704441
Nice, but was talking about these guys, from 2 decades ago:
https://m.youtube.com/@arrepiado
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oPQIizRp9ck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAM3gswitxQ
Anonymous No.28705194 [Report] >>28705354
>>28702211
I hate those stupid little engines so much...
Anonymous No.28705250 [Report]
>>28704891
The 600rr doesn't have a piss twin...
Anonymous No.28705354 [Report] >>28707816
>>28705194
post the rest of the car
Anonymous No.28705709 [Report] >>28705728
>>28702299
Ferrari attempted to make an emissions compliant 2 stroke engine.
iirc it uses ordinary poppet valves and a supercharger to avoid burning so much oil.
also liquid cooling helps allot.
Anonymous No.28705728 [Report] >>28705759
>>28705709
stupid wops forgot to add mount points for a transmission?
Anonymous No.28705730 [Report]
>>28702214
>Also micro cars are a thing in Europe, their version of kei cars.
Not these days. Even Smart got sold to the Chinese and they won't make the Fortwo again.
Anonymous No.28705736 [Report]
>>28703032
In the end, engines are air pumps. People have weird fixations on their parameters.
Anonymous No.28705759 [Report]
>>28705728
pastaniggers probably figured the body mounting points are good enough to align everything
Anonymous No.28705762 [Report]
>>28702164
what about a v1 engine
Anonymous No.28705841 [Report] >>28705846 >>28705851
>>28703340
Lets not forget the Melkus RS1000
>2 stroke i3
>1.2l
>90hp at 6000rpm
Those are honestly impressive numbers for the late 60s and socialism
Anonymous No.28705846 [Report]
>>28705841
That's like 75HP per liter. There are many late 90s krautscheiße with less than that.
Anonymous No.28705851 [Report]
>>28705841
Soviets were ahead of the game with 2-strokes back then. Ernst Degner changed all that.
Anonymous No.28705897 [Report] >>28705901
>>28702273
Weren't Wartburg 4 cylinder?
Anonymous No.28705901 [Report] >>28707281
>>28705897
nope, they're 3 cyl and trabant was 2.
Anonymous No.28707279 [Report]
>>28702220
that thing can run in reverse and can run 0 RPM (cylinder is bouncing but crank doesn't complete rotation)
Anonymous No.28707281 [Report]
>>28705901
>2stroke 3cyl
that equals to 4stroke inline6 right?
Anonymous No.28707816 [Report] >>28707962
>>28705354
Anonymous No.28707842 [Report] >>28707849 >>28707916
>>28702151 (OP)

I want a 10.3L half cylinder engine :(
Anonymous No.28707845 [Report] >>28707863
>>28703700
Fiats had 2 cyls for a decade or more now
Anonymous No.28707849 [Report] >>28707859 >>28707871 >>28707876
>>28707842
>half cylinder engine

?
Anonymous No.28707859 [Report]
>>28707849

Did I fucking stutter? I want a half cylinder engine.
Anonymous No.28707863 [Report] >>28707874
>>28707845
Yesh, was talking about recent ones
Anonymous No.28707871 [Report] >>28707916
>>28707849
Everything is possible
Anonymous No.28707874 [Report] >>28707895 >>28707980
>>28707863
Aixam, Ligier and other micro cars like that are 2 cylinder.
Aren't those jao kei cars 2 cylinder as well?
Anonymous No.28707876 [Report]
>>28707849
>tfw the death gasp of the combustion engine will be a synthetic fuel powered 2 stroke one cylinder
all begins how it ends, how it should be
Anonymous No.28707895 [Report] >>28707899
>>28707874
Yeah, but those are rated as a quadcycles (am or b1 license) and can't go on highways or similar.
Anonymous No.28707899 [Report]
>>28707895
*Actually am is for 50cc max
Anonymous No.28707916 [Report] >>28707935
>>28707871
>>28707842
How about a .5L double-cylinder engine?
Anonymous No.28707935 [Report]
>>28707916
>"Oval"
Ah, yes, I remember that one..
Anonymous No.28707962 [Report] >>28708113
>>28707816
cutie patootie
Anonymous No.28707980 [Report]
>>28707874
Keis are typically 3cyls. Some older keis had 4cyls, like the original Copen.
Anonymous No.28708113 [Report] >>28708377
>>28707962
They have little to no redeeming qualities beyond being cute. 3/10, do not recommend.
Anonymous No.28708127 [Report] >>28708451
>>28702216
>turbo
>2 stroke
Blows the fuel air mix straight out the exhaust unburnt.
Anonymous No.28708377 [Report] >>28708417
>>28708113
>no redeeming qualities beyond being cute
its the only quality i care about
Anonymous No.28708395 [Report]
>>28702151 (OP)
the twinair fiat 500 is already that. they honestly sound broken at low speed lol
Anonymous No.28708417 [Report] >>28708427
>>28708377
a pale imitation of greatness
Anonymous No.28708421 [Report] >>28708426
>>28702311
Isn't this basically EGR from the 70s but even worse?
Anonymous No.28708426 [Report]
>>28708421
What it basically is is a joke, anon.
Anonymous No.28708427 [Report]
>>28708417
thats a vitara
Anonymous No.28708451 [Report]
>>28708127
Also requires an external oil pump to feed the turbo on top of it being basically unable to spin the turbo if it's a thumper.
Anonymous No.28708516 [Report] >>28708833
>>28704891
>engine swap a sportbike i4 on your shitbox
>get on highway
>accelerate to highway speed
>engine is screaming at 7k
>arrive at your destination deaf
I see what you're trying to say anon, but the answer is no. The closest thing to car capable engines are the much lower HP twins found in standards & adventure bikes like Yamaha's CP2 or Honda's RC61. They're designed to have more torque and run at lower RPMs but you're looking at 70-80HP tops. The RC61 is basically a Jazz engine cut in half. Strangely, H-D engines would be perfect since they make like 90% of their rated torque right off idle.
Anonymous No.28708541 [Report]
>>28702151 (OP)
Soon all cars will be a pod with a 1 cylinder 2 stroke engine.
Anonymous No.28708560 [Report]
>>28702573
a V1 has more soul
Anonymous No.28708758 [Report]
>>28702151 (OP)
I actually like the way inline threes sound tbdesu
Anonymous No.28708774 [Report] >>28708813
>>28702299
Mazda is supposedly trying to develop a 2 stroke that looks like a 4 stroke but with funky cam timing and a supercharger.

Ultimately, nothing will sound as good as a ports and an expansion chamber.
Anonymous No.28708813 [Report] >>28708845
>>28708774
Expansion chamber is exactly the thing that makes two strokes impractical thougheverbeit cause it creates very narrow powerband.
Anonymous No.28708833 [Report]
>>28708516
Africa Twin engine exists. 1.1L 102hp NA with 105Nm of torque 10.5 compression ratio. With aggressive mapping and full exhaust we are talking ~110HP and if you slap a turbo on top of it 140 seems like reachable power figure.
Anonymous No.28708845 [Report] >>28708874
>>28708813
As opposed to what? As far as I know expansion chambers are the only things that help make power. It is just the nature of 2 strokes. Good port and ignition timing can help smooth it out.
Anonymous No.28708874 [Report] >>28708886
>>28708845
Expansion chamber is essentially a crude way to improve engine aspiration and fueling using sound waves to create and regulate pressure in the cylinder. This is why i suggested electronic fuel injection with some fancy exhaust and induction tech, and it seems like mazda thinks in that general direction too.
I was fantasizing about some sort of valved e-turbo and active exhaust pump contraption and wondering if anyone will be willing to put inordinate amounts of rnd in it to pull it off.
Anonymous No.28708886 [Report]
>>28708874
What if you make an electronic sleeve valve for the exhaust? Sort of like koenigsegg free valve. The tech for power valves is already there so you might be able to work around that.
Anonymous No.28708888 [Report]
>>28702151 (OP)
theyll start bringing back rotaries
Anonymous No.28708890 [Report] >>28709721
why they havent brought back rotaries yet at all when they can engineer them to last 100k and throw away the whole car
Anonymous No.28709721 [Report]
>>28708890
Becuase they're thirsty fuckers, and iirc they're also quite terrible emissions wise.
Anonymous No.28710827 [Report]
Future Ford 0.5 l Ecoboost