Thread 28702823

Do pushrods really just pushgods? How was no-one in 20 years able to beat cletus engineering?

>>28702823 (OP)

> How was no-one in 20 years able to beat cletus engineering?
Its simple. The Corvette generally, as well as its offshoots and experimentations, are the embodiment of american exceptionalism. GM designs the corvette to be incredibly durable, cheap enough with GMs parts bins, but performant enough to keep up with Porsche or what have you. Each corvette is the culmination of each tried and true design present in the american automobile. These cars are a representation of the rugged individualism within the american ethos and americas pursuit at something greater. Its an everymans dream car. Simple and effective.

>>28702839
>4L60

>>28702839
it's hard to think that this was the product of the same company that decided making a diesel engine was as simple as just converting an existing gas engine to run on diesel and that was it

>>28702858
GM is a textbook example of what happens when engineers are kept in a zoo by beancounters and MBAniggers and they manage to somehow break loose of the cage once in a while to produce pure mechanical perfection.

>>28702861
top kek that's actually a really apt description of gm, together with them cancelling anything that's good, or cockteasing shit they'll never ever release (see also: cadillac 16)

>>28702861
The C5 corvette was built without GM’s knowledge. They were supposed to cancel the corvette after the C5. Given what was happening in the 90s, they had every reason to believe sports cars simply weren’t profitable.


All the 90s JDM sports cars were selling terribly compared to their 80s counterparts. Porsche was going bankrupt, and even ford was going to replace the ancient fox body with a Mazda and make the mustang FWD. Chrysler was the only one of the big three who went full speed ahead with performance. Drunk off the money they made in the 80, they bought Lamborghini, made some state-side sports cars with Mitsubishi (the DSM), and got the best minds in the auto industry to make the viper and give it a racing program.

>>28702880
After the C4*

>>28702880
Right, but again, it was GM’s fault they left the C4 to fester for 12 years without a new generation, especially considering they had amazing concepts of future gens like the CERV III. When their engineers get some itty bitty freedom, just like those at Mercedes at the time, they made machines that raped Porsche to hell and back. Good to see they’re having some freedom right now with the ZR1.

>>28702888
Again, GM had no reason to believe an update would save the corvette given how poorly the japs and Porsche was selling. After all, they had just dumped a ton of money into the C4 ZR-1 and it was a sales flop which greatly discouraged them.

>>28702847
>T56
The Corvette is literally perfect. I can't think of another late 90s/early 00s car that provides as much performance for your money while still being dead reliable and easy to maintain

>>28702880
>went full speed ahead with performance
>fwd turbo 2.2 shitboxes

>>28703106
And the viper, dsm, and Lamborghini.

>>28702823 (OP)

>New copehammer thread

>>28703109
>viper
Basically made by a team of its own with little affiliation to the rest of Chrysler
>dsm
Mitsubishi
>Lamborghini
HOLY COPE LMAO

>>28703202
>a-achkshually Viper wasn't built by Chrysler
Giga cope.

>>28703202
>the viper isn’t Chrysler nor is the shit they own
Guess that means the manthey 911 is modified after all and isn’t Porsche.

>>28703211
Right, fair enough. Maybe I went too far there, but there's a point to be made that it basically happened because of Lutz rather than Iacocca, and Lutz was basically on his own there.

>>28703213
Which is undeniably true?

corvette raped his brown porsche son, i’m afraid

DRIVEN
FIVE
THOUSAND
MILES
IN TWENTY YEARS

I ask myself the same question
Without the ebonics, of course

>>28703250
~4990 of those were put on in a week

>>28703276
Yeah I'm sure it's a really great car to drive and the owner just chose to never drive it for no reason at all

>>28703278
It's not street legal. It only ran as a manufacturer prototype can't be registered for street use.

>a one-off prototype that was never sold to the public
gee whiz, a german car from the 1930s went faster than this thing

>>28702880
>even ford was going to replace the ancient fox body with a Mazda and make the mustang FWD
Thank God because they made the coolest Ford by accident.

>>28702823 (OP)
>leaf springs

>>28703269
Sweet, old Corollas.

>>28702823 (OP)
>Unverified, unrepeated, never sold to the public
Straight busta bullshit.

>>28703375
It’s street legal. The issue is it’s in the hands of collectors just like anything else that’s remotely cool in life.

>>28703448
How did Porsche get raped by leaf springs so badly they had to threaten to quit the SCCA in the 80s unless Corvettes were banned? Did porsche anon’s brown son get raped that hard by said leaf springs?

>>28703484
Just like the one-off modified McLaren F1 that did 240

>>28703544

McLaren F1 makes mutts so butthurt . Epic

>>28703560
Pushrods being faster makes Arabs butthurt.

>>28702823 (OP)
Looking at my bros 1991 C4 vs my 1991 Camaro is crazy.
The C4 is vastly more sophisticated.

>>28703616
Because the f-body is ancient and the c4 was a clean-sheet design in 83.

>>28703623
Beyond having a small block chevy and (for 82 only, the same manual transmission), the third gen shares very little with second gen f bodies.
t. have read the 1981 book on the third gen's development by Michael Lamm

>>28703616
'91 Vette still had the junk L98, though. LT1 rapes that thing out of the water.

>>28703496
How come the guy who built it never drove it on the street then?
I'm sure it must be a really great street car....

>>28702823 (OP)
It's a GODmobile. It fries the mid-wit's brain.

>>28703828
Because its a collector car you absolutely faggot, how many times do I need to explain it to you? It drove 5K in one week, broke a huge record and then was quickly whisked away to some richfaggots garage, just like countless other amazing cars over the years. Its a tragedy but that doesn't change the fact that it is fully street legal. Maybe of richfags actually enjoyed the hobby of driving for what it was we'd actually see this and countless other 1 of 1s be driven for more than 2 miles a year to the local concourse.

>>28703898
It came up for auction a while back. You can search up the auction listing which clearly states it can't be registered for street use.

>>28703498
C4s got raped by the FD RX7 and the SCCA put the FDs in another class.

>>28703898
The guy who built it owned for like 20 years and never drove it lmao
>b-b-b-but I'm collecting my own car!

>>28703905
>It came up for auction a while back. You can search up the auction listing which clearly states it can't be registered for street use.
Did you even check the auction you're mentioning?
>>28703927
Yes, that's typically how it goes. What were you expecting, that they would daily drive a one of one car? Is there any one of one car that is daily driven? What does it even matter, anyway? The car is street legal and if an actual car enthusiast with the money to afford it bought it, they could drive it as a daily if you wanted to. Go ask Callaway why they let it languish as it did, probably for the same boomer retarded reasons any corvette owner doesn't drive their car for.

Just to add on...

>>28703929
>Is there any one of one car that is daily driven?

>>28703250
>>28703927
Reminder that the sledgehammer got driven more than the only McLaren f1 in the world that could 240 which was merely towed everywhere.

>>28703935
I'll concede on this one but you DON'T daily drive this, then wtf are you doing?

>>28703929
>>28703936
I think if you want to brag about how great a road car is and compare it to production cars with hundreds of models sold to the general public it has to be more rigorously tested than ONE privately owned example driven a grand total TWO THOUSAND MILES over the course of THIRTY YEARS.

>>28702823 (OP)
>one car
As we've seen with BMW and Porsche owners, it only takes a single schizoid anon to break this slow-ass board.
>>28703544
>Just like the one-off modified McLaren F1 that did 240
And like the unmodified, production McLaren F1 that still achieved a top speed of 221mph, breaking all speed records held until that point by any production vehicle.
Where's the Sledgehammer's record? Oh wait, it's not even a production car. Barely a concept, even. How many times do we have to keep "Sledgehammering" that in your head, dumbass?
>>28703936
Reminder that the highest mileage McLaren F1, entirely unmodified and still the fastest production car in the world when new at 220mph, has over 60k miles (100k km) on it right now.
Let me just reiterate that again. There is a McLaren F1, an unmodified production car (probably with a rebuilt title even, it was Rowan Atkinson's kek) with over 60k miles on the odometer. A naturally aspirated car capable of 220mph right out of the showroom where one might have actually purchased it (unlike the Sledgehammer, which was never sold).
Where's the Sledgehammer with even half that mileage? A third?

>>28703986
raped by corvette, my brown son

>>28704085
Yeah tell me all about the great road car that not even the guy who built it wants to drive

>>28704114
brown son, you need to be taking anal ointment, not posting here

>>28703929
Maybe try scrolling down next time

>>28703986
There weren’t hundreds of F1s built. It was a kit car tier shitbox made to order with only 70 production examples. The rest were prototypes and race cars. Two thousand miles is more than any of the top speed f1s drove.
>>28704014
>221
Ignoring the fact that this speed was achieved by the same one off prototype driven by a journalist in one direction, it would’ve only held this “record” for four years until it lost to the dauer 962.


Meanwhile, the sledgehammer held the record for fastest road car for 20 years modified or otherwise. A far more impressive feat than holding a “record” for going slower for just 4 years.
>highest mileage f1
Never reached its top speed even once.
>>28704114
Tell me about the fastest “production” car that can’t reach its claimed top speed in a production state, and was driven even fewer miles. Tell me about how fast the customer f1s were that never once did a top speed run.
>>28704126
100% road legal in is US states with no emissions testing like mine.

>jerking off about cars you will never own or even drive
Lol

>>28704172
wtf only 70?
Give me the one of one, never sold, never even driven by its owner/builder car right now!

>>28704126
>emission compliance
nice job exposing yourself califaggot, I would have no issue registering it here

>>28704194
better a corvette than some british trashpile

>>28704194
>never sold
But it was, unlike the single built xp5 f1

>>28704174
You can get a Manual LT1 for under $10k. How poor are you?

>>28702871

check out the Chevy Volt concept. Tell me that shit wouldn'tve crushed the bland ass prius.

>>28704216
You can also make your own twin turbo vette for less than the price of the f1, which more people have done than there are f1 owners who have taken their “fastest production car” to its top speed, which is none.

>>28704223
B2K was a thing, anon, no need to fabricate. Although obviously not as impressive as the Sledgehammer

>>28704223
That's nice, dear.

>>28704211
WRONG

>>28702861
The Corvette team was actually pretty cucked for a while.
Every generation they were only allowed to "fix" one major aspect of the car.
So even if they had a laundry list of improvements, they weren't allowed to fix them all.

>>28704860
imagine GM without its retarded management… vgh… americo-hyperborean manufacturing