Thread 28703212

The New Twingo leaked before the reveal

Twongi bros we are back.

Are we going back in time to the late 2000's?

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-%C2%A317k-renault-twingo-leaked-ahead-6-november-reveal
Whoops forgot the article

>actual knobs for AC
thank fuck

>>28703218
But a stupid square steering wheel. Why ard car makets doing that? It needs to be round so you can slide it between your fingers when straightening up.

>>28703234
Bottom needs to be cut of so tallfags don't whine about their knees and top needs to be cut of to manlets and women can see the road

>>28703212 (OP)
>Twongi bros we are back
>EV
>back
I don't think so, pal.

>>28703266
what car is more perfect to be an ev than twingo? rwd prefferably

>>28703212 (OP)
Looks like plastic wheelarches, but painted in body color
>>28703218
Glued on tabled, disgusting

>>28703266
twingo would have been an EV from the start if it made sense back then. it's mean to be cheap and practical city transportation.

>>28703212 (OP)
Renault literally saving the entire auto industry while VAGshit keeps dragging everything down.
I hate germs so much it's unreal.

>>28703324
if only they offered engines with more displacemen than 1300cc

>>28703212 (OP)
>Twongi bros we are back.
Are you retards for real? It's just a Twingo skinwalker, it's just as fucked as any other nucar.

>>28703212 (OP)
looks nice, too bad it's EV slop

Reminder that Twingos dont actually exist.
Its a psyop from euros to demoralize the rest of the planet.
>Twingo debut- 1992
>Photoshop commercial release- 1990

looks good, shame about the door handle

>>28703341
Some of their hybrids come with a 1.6 or 1.8 NA engine tuned for efficiency, which sounds a lot like what Toyota is doing. I don't think they have those eCVT power splitter things though.
Reviews seem a bit mixed on whether the gearbox switching sharply between gears and power sources is distracting or not.

>>28703463
The fuck are those wheels? What happened to 14 and 15 Inchers?

>>28703475
That's the concept model, OP is the production model

>>28703463
Those donk wheels are fucking abhorrent and destroy the look of the entire car.

>>28703463
oh my.

>>28703212 (OP)
why cant these fuckers put one normal engine why

>>28703218
>mandatory tablet

imagine killing renault sport and reviving 4, 5 and twingo - just to make them ev memes

>>28703212 (OP)
Looks like one happy nigga/10. Twingo love, even if I hate Renault.

>>28703218
As far as mandatory screenslop goes, a standalone iPad mini is at least better than a huge slab of glass that stretches from steering wheel to passenger

>>28703900
>standalone iPad mini
It's a cheapo Samsung SoC, IIRC.

>>28703212 (OP)
Those door handles are straight off the Zoe.
Though I get why Renault recycle parts, it decreases costs in areas where most people don't care. Plus, Zoe door handles work just fine.

>>28703212 (OP)
I want it. Too bad retarded frogs won't sell it in burgerland even without it having to pass emissions testing or fuel economy standards being an EV.

>>28703234
So the wheel doesn't slip as easy when people inevitably use their knees to steer.

>>28703302
>ev
>cheap and practical

>>28703215
With ozempic I hope so.

>>28703212 (OP)
>we are back
>EVshit
Ehhh. A couple people will buy it because of it's "cute" looks, but it's not going to have the same motorsport-oriented cult following as the old one since it doesn't have a gas-powered engine and manual transmission.
I'm sure it'll sell since it fits the current Euro meta of EV city cars, but that doesn't exactly make this "Twingo 2.0" despite what it's name and appearance may imply.

>>28703212 (OP)
It looks cute. I hope its range won't be some pathetic 200km deal. Any car with real world range less than 400km is not a real car for me. But the R5 was great and can supposedly be leased for not much more than a monthly bus ticket.

>>28704240
>R5 was great
i keep hearing this but never see it on the road

>>28703319
Twingi is excite

>>28703767
Who is this retard quoting?

>>28703218
This looks like shit desu they haven't even tried to mimic the original interior.

>>28703920
Move to France if you like it so much. If you are black or brown, you won't even need ID to get in and get bennies!

Someone's mad.

luv twingo
'ate ev
simple as

>>28703234
I mean it could always be worse, to this day Poogeot still insists in using this ridiculously tiny steering wheel for their entire line-up.

>>28703920
>I want it
My condolences to your family

>>28704660
and yet still it brushes my knees and obstructs dashboard.

>>28704534
Comfy and soulful.

>>28703218
Cold and sterile.

What happened to car interiors?

Besides the fact that it is an EV (which honestly at this point has become a literal requirement by the EU, can't blame Renault for it) I kind of love this thing. It is a small hatchback release that isn't jacked up or SUV-ified with actual control knobs and no "hurrrr angry design make grug's 3cyl econobox manly" pretenses.

I wish for Renault to sell many of these to make the point known that people do still want hatchbacks and that crossovers are on the way out.

>>28704534
Memphis Design pastels would likely find little acceptance with today's public.

>>28703212 (OP)
>>28703218
Unironically looks based

>>28703280
>rwd prefferably
Unfortunately it's Renault so it is likely FWD like the Renault 5 EV is. Also the previous generation of Twingo was fucking REAR ENGINED RWD because it's a Smart that looked slightly better. Before that they were their own thing and logically FWD.

>>28703341
>forgets the legend 1.5 dCi

>>28703212 (OP)
No gas engine ?
Dont care.
Twingo demands a shitty twin turbo setup.

>>28703212 (OP)
It looks so happy!

https://insideevs.com/news/778201/renault-twingo-e-tech-ev/

>With a starting price of under €20,000 ($23,000), Renault wants its new Twingo E-Tech to undercut all the budget models coming in from China. Cars like the BYD Seagull (also known as the Dolphin Surf) are excellent and offer remarkable value for the money, but Europeans would still choose something local if it were similarly priced. At least that’s what Renault hopes, and it’s making extra-sure of that by injecting some nostalgia into the mix.

>Unlike the two-door original, the new Twingo has four doors for considerably more practicality. The two rear seats can individually slide 6.7 inches (17 cm) back to up more knee room for rear occupants or forward to expand the trunk capacity, which is 12.7 cubic feet (360 liters). Fold the rear seats and that expands to 35 cu-ft (1,000 liters).

However, it gets a smaller 27.5-kilowatt-hour (usable) LFP battery pack, giving it a WLTP range of up to 163 miles (263 kilometers). By opting for LFP, Renault says it has reduced the cost of the battery pack by around 20%, even though it admits that it has a lower energy density than NMC. The Twingo’s battery is even smaller than the base 40 kWh pack you get in the Renault 5, and it offers considerably less range than the 5’s big 52 kWh long-range pack, which is good for a claimed 250 miles (400 km).

One area where Renault has saved money is in the power of the DC fast charger, which only goes up to 50 kW. But for such a small battery, even that low charging power is still good for 10% to 80% in 30 minutes. There’s also an 11 kW AC charger, which Renault thinks will see the most use, which can charge the car from 10% to 100% in 2 hours and 35 minutes. The Twingo EV also features vehicle-to-load (V2L) bidirectional charging and can supply up to 3.7 kW.

MERCI, TWINGO!

it's officially revealed:

https://www.renaultgroup.com/en/magazine/our-group-news/new-twingo-sparking-joy-in-cities-and-brimming-with-tech/

it will be produced in europe (slovenia)

my first car, my first love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnG6EYdNHg

Well it's certainly cute and has nice interiors. I like the back row having a slide function so it can have multiple uses. But with that range, it's an inner city car. Probably a secondary car you buy for small errands.

>>28706300
The sliding rear seats are classic Twingo, only the mk3 didn't have them because that was a Smart with a bodykit.

Looks very fucking based. Also
>around €10k with EV incentives
Yeah Renault is cooking lately, I want to see them do a sedan in this retro style now. Both the R5 and R4 are bangers, and the Twingo is amazing.

>>28704424
I think it outsold the Tesla Model Y in Europe in october.

Is it legal to add a hidden beer compartment on a small EV city car?

>>28706345
Good lord that's a tall dash.

>>28706351
Yeah they mention a "letterbox" kinda view, but the bonnet is so short there isn't much to see.

>>28706331
>>around €10k with EV incentives
No fucking way, where would this be?

>>28706366
In Italy it can go down to €9,900 with the best incentives.

Small EVs: this or the Dacia Spring?

>>28706373
This won't be out until late 2026/early 2027 whereas the Spring already exists. And EV development is so fast that we don't even know how things will be in a year. Maybe the Twingo range will be considered unacceptable compared to other competitors that are sure to pop up.

It's so lovely.

>>28706497
Lovely but lovelier than a Mini Cooper? I'm not so sure. A low mileage used Cooper EV has similar price and range but much more powerful motor. BMW i3 is also a very cheap, practical EV secondary car.

>>28706514
True but you would have to buy used, and the i3 is very very old at this point. The Newingo is brand new and has more modern features, you get full coverage airbags and ADS as standard + autopark if you want.

>>28706514
A few people leased an i3 near me. When the lease ended...

>>28706518
That's true, as new it's really hard to beat the Twingo price. That small LFP battery is pushing costs down hard.

it's cute, i'd buy it if i wasn't a hopeless poorfag

>>28706532
It's a poorfag EV.

Do you think it will be possible to trick it out?

I like the design a lot. I will see how things go, maybe I buy it in 2027-2028

>>28706559
not that kind of poorfag
i can literally barely afford food, and not even every day

>>28706580
You have bigger problems than a car then.

>>28706584
i believe most of you have way bigger problems than me, but that's another topic

anyway, the car is really cute, cutest since mk1

They did something with the weight and the efficiency, because the base R5 has a 45% larger battery, yet only 18% more range (192 vs 163).

>>28703212 (OP)

Looks awesome!
Too bad it is worse in every single way except styling, compared to a LeapMotors T03. Probably even more expensive.

>>28706624
This plus you can actually buy a T03 right now
Obsolete before it even hit the showroom

>>28703218
what's the big red thing?

>>28706345
Beer? No
Wine? Yes

>>28706626
>>28706624
>Stellantis + China
Yeah no thanks.

>>28706609
That doesn't make sense considering R5 is on NMC which usually packs more energy per kg. Maybe there is some physical law where increased battery sizes don't scale linearly to range gained, as the battery itself represents a big weight gain.

>>28706483
>Maybe the Twingo range will be considered unacceptable compared to other competitors that are sure to pop up.
Renault could massively increase the attractiveness of their models, if they were to implement a proper battery upgrade program. I'm aware it involves massive investments in logistics, but it's the single biggest hurdle for electric car owners.

>>28706373
New 2026 Spring comes with a 99 hp motor option. And an anti-roll bar, to decrease the boaty behavior.
Though, oddly enough, the new battery is smaller, 24.3 kWh compared to 26.8.

>>28703218
>tablet
Into the trash.

>>28706609
The twingo is probably slow as fuck it has almost half the power of the r5

>>28706775
Emergency lights button.

>>28706775
>>28707305
Oh wait nevermind you probably mean the one at the bottom, it's a modular storage piece of some sort, the cupholder has attachment points for stuff you can 3D-print to customise it.

Hmm, noticed a not-so-good development.
In order to decrease cost and weight, Renault have decided to switch to a cell-to-pack architecture. This removes the intermediate module stage, however it makes the battery less structurally durable, due to lack of physical separation between cells. It is suspected that the elimination of modules has led to increased numbers of battery fires.

>>28706178
I despise this 10-80% bullshit they always advertise. I've seen 20-80% too on other EVs. So in 30 minutes it can charge 70% of the battery. Which is maybe 60 miles real world range. Utterly useless outside of the city.

>>28703212 (OP)
Cute design but
>200 km range
>130 km/h max
>Starting from 20.000 jewros in Eurocuckland
EEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeehh..

>20k euros
>EV
who asked for this shit?

>>28707343
20k is the new 10k, for any new car. I wish I was memeing.

>>28707347
Okay, maybe not that severe, but 20k is definitely the new 15k.

>>28707348
yes, and is a twingo supposed to cost 15k wtf

its not like newer cars are built better, my moms 5 year old rav4 rattles like a bitch at like 80k km....

>>28706624
The T03 is considerably less practical than a Twingo. Its front seats have integrated headrests (those fucking suck, always either too low or too high), and the rear seat is a single-piece bench which can only fold. The Twingo uses its classic individual twin seats which can slide and fold.

>>28707355
>yes, and is a twingo supposed to cost 15k wtf
Cheapest Mirage shitbox is $17k MSRP.

>>28706483
Orders open before the end of the year, and deliveries start in the first half of 2026. It's not that far away.

>>28707319
It's not that big of an issue because it uses an LFP battery, meaning that while less powerful it is much less likely to explode or catch fire.

>>28705529
>1.5 dCi
i miss my megane 2 with 4.8l/100km. shit had 0 engine troubles after 250k km. electronics tho...

>>28704053
>motorsport-oriented cult following
fucking retard lmao
its following is as cheap transportation for young adults. the "motorsport" only happens because there's a lot of them and they're very cheap. they don't have any actual sporting capability. nobody tracks a Twingo by choice.

>>28706300
>inner city car
how fucking large is your city that 300km is not enough range

>>28706271
>it will be produced in europe (slovenia)
And assembled in France

>>28707355
A Twingo was €10k back in the early 2000s, that's €16k today.

>>28707330
>Starting from 20.000
You can get a lot of the price shaved off thanks to government bonuses and incentives.

>>28707355
>Goyota
Your mum got what she asked for.

>Crumple zone too small.
>Aerodynamics still too good.
>Too much room for storage
>Not enough clearance for urban commute in a concrete jungle
>No AWD
>No V8 sound synthesiser

See you in 5 years after nobody buy boughts it.

>>28707709
>>Crumple zone too small.
do you wear a sissy helmet when you walk your dog too?

>>28707742
I walk around naked everywhere, I am however expressing the average opinion of a divorced woman who is out there buying a new car with her divorce winnings.

>>28703218
all they have to do is give it colored seats... why black???

>>28707750
Cost cutting, especially when using recycled materials. Black (or rather, generic anthracite grey) can go with any paint color. Whereas other upholstery colors only really "work" with a particular paint scheme.

>>28707938
>Whereas other upholstery colors only really "work" with a particular paint scheme.
Didn't stop them on the original, you got your funky interior colors regardless of what paint you picked.

>>28706351
holy shit you're right

>>28706367
where are you getting this info

>>28708095
Their website:
https://www.renault.it/veicoli-elettrici-ibridi/twingo-e-tech-elec.html

Renault Twingo, the icon of the 90s, is back. Now in a 100% electric version.

Be among the first to drive it and experience its energy: with R Pass from €9,900 with government incentives*.

Vehicle undergoing type approval, available to order from late 2025.

Spacious interior and maximum modularity. Always connected and intuitive, perfect for everyday life thanks to the openR link system with integrated Google1. Maximum safety and comfort, with 24 advanced driver assistance systems2.

*with government incentives of €11,000 only for customers with an ISEE equal to or less than €30,000, residing in the Functional Urban Area and in the case of scrapping up to Euro5 and in the presence of additional conditions for access (based on the ministerial decree of 08/08/2025 published in the Official Gazette no. 208 of 08/09/2025). Offer valid for the first 700 customers only.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

>Renault Group boss François Provost told journalists on Thursday that, as part of the new category’s framework, he wants law makers to pause the need to integrate new safety measures for between 10 and 15 years. “If so,” he said, “we can dedicate our engineers to improve [current] cars and decrease the cost, [meaning a] lower price for the customer.”
A dead customer is better than no customer I guess

>>28708118
It's related to the new category of cars being created. Basically EU-made kei cars.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/european-automakers-eu-keen-to-create-their-own-kei-car-category

>>28707750
They toned down the seat color/patterns even for the OG Twingo after a few years. Not sure if it was because of buyer demand, or cost cutting.

>>28704053
>motorsport-oriented cult following
that never happened
the twongi is beloved because of its cute looks and its playfulness and certainly not because 3 retards throught they could make it a track tool

>lovelier than a Mini Cooper
a fucking base trim golf is lovelier than that shitbox

>>28708128
It corresponded with Memphis Group aesthetics going out of fashion by the late-90s.

WE ARE SO BACK FROGGOS

>1200kg
HON HON HON