Thread 2792485

I am realizing that you could live like this in many places in the mountains in the US and Canada without anyone ever finding you.

Will this become something people do as actually buying a house gets harder and harder?
Right now I am looking at spots in the rocky mountains that would take two days to hike to

>>2792485 (OP)
do you have a brother who would bring you food regularly via airplane?

>>2792485 (OP)
people already do it

>>2792487
that was only a few times a year and yes I would restock at least twice a year I think

>>2792489
my point is dick was a larper. he didn't even hunt anything. Just ate garbage food that was provided to him by his brother. he heavily relied on industrial society.

>>2792490
>my point is dick was a larper
you are a fucking idiot and have zero comparable accomplishments to your name

>>2792490
You are very clever in the way you pointed out that OP doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. That's quite an accomplishment.

There used to be guys that would build shacks in the woods near ski resorts so they would not have to pay rent.
They would work and ski every day then come home build a fire and go to bed. Pretty cozy lifestyle but I think it ended in the 1990s

This thread needs more swerer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTT9IIVxonc&ab_channel=swererbob

>>2792485 (OP)
People always did this and are still doing it.
https://youtu.be/nIOfN7zCTiY

Do recommend for anyone interested. Gotta get it through Alaska Geographic and it took weeks to arrive.

>>2792525
Old goat milking an old goat and putting it into a bucket of fish?

What the heck am i watching?

>>2792563
Are they doing fishmilks?

Dick Proenneke did not own the land at Twin Lakes; he built his cabin on land that was part of the public domain within Lake Clark National Park, which he eventually donated to the National Park Service, meaning he never privately owned the property at Twin Lakes.

>>2792719
How do you donate public land

>>2792487
Put em on clutch

>>2792493
>>2792498
Seething won't save you now.

>>2792742
>Put em on clutch
what does that mean?

>>2792719
>>2792720
>What are homesteader laws that didn’t expire in Alaska until like ‘85

>>2792485 (OP)
>whoops, some passing aircraft noticed your illegal house now everything you've worked for is demolished. Thanks for playing

If you buy land in the rural boroughs of AK (unorganized boroughs), and build a house you will not have to pay property taxes on it or income taxes as an Alaskan resident for at least 6+ months of the year. Those unorganized boroughs are the last tax havens in the USA, like going back to 1600s-1700s America in terms of tax regs.

You still need your own land. Otherwise s someone WILL find you at some point and cops will arrest you

>>2792793
Everything sure was great just for boomers and nobody else wasn't it

>>2792918
It's 100% illegal to booby-trap anything in all fifty states, cucko.

>>2792927
He said boobies, not booby-traps.

>>2792862
Or worse yet, they will TAX (You).

>>2792918
>boobies
blue footed? you gonna go all the way to Galapagos for a silly bird?

>>2792939
Is he going to cut the boobies off women and lay them throughout the area near his home?

>>2792980
Yes. By the time they get stuck gooning to the 4th pair of boobies they come across, anon will have been long gone.

>>2792490
>Dick was a larper
He never tried to be Uncle Ted, you disingenuous nigger. He just wanted to live mostly alone, in a mostly untouched area and enjoy life his own way. He hunted occasionally and killed porkypines that fucked with his property, but only if he couldn't keep them away otherwise. He was just an animal lover who didn't really like to kill too many big mammals, he did fish a lot though.

>>2792868
That word must mean nothing now.

>>2793002
It obviously refers to anyone older than a millenial who profited from the vastly better country of the past and ruined it for everyone who came after

I can't believe I had to actually type this out because your dumb ass couldn't fucking put it together from fucking context

Goddamn moron

>>2793018
You think I don't know (how could you not know? faggots have been spamming it all over the site for years now) and wasn't making fun of you for being the sort of retard who takes a word with a specific meaning and turns it into some slack brained internet meme meaning, vaguely, 'anyone older than me'? You're not as intelligent as you like to think. Control your ego, and your temper; you few off the handle like a real psycho there.

>>2792493
I had door dash delivered to me 3 days ago, so actually I have accomplished everything that he has

seeing shit like what dick or uncle ted did in the modern day a mere 30-40 years ago is almost an impossible now due to insane anti human policies towards to public land now thanks to "i got mine" boomers and the gov. theyve basically closed every single fucking loophole or massively inflated the cost of property in the middle of nowhere and zoned out of existence so if someone wants to go on a spiritual retreat into nature with some planning its basically become something that requires 50 years worth of wage cucking and you do in your last few years.

for example in the yukon they have been burning down all the cabins built up in the middle of nowhere for some bullshit fire safety reason which is nothing but a crock of fucking shit. they are just seething that people want to drop out of this dog shit society and go chase a true human experience.

i fucking hate the modern world its absolute aids.

>>2793072
Uncle Ted blew up high school teachers when he was mad at IBM executives.

I genuinely hope your retarded ass gets help before you murder school children to protest the elite.

>>2793074
thats not what im referencing you fucking mongloid, im talking about someone living off nature year round.

>>2793076
uncle ted bought his land

>>2793074
>don't like society eh? You must want to murder children

What the fuck is wrong with you? Fuck off you fucking bloodthirsty freak go daydream about murdered children in a fucking asylum where you belong

>>2793086
ya he bought it on his shitty salary in the 1970s. that plot of land is now like 250k minimum and its probably been rezoned so you cant dwell on it full time and only use it for recreation

>>2793086
With what money

>>2793092
>on his shitty salary
Wrong retard. He used the money he got from solving a relatively unknown and useless mathematical theorem.

>>2793109
false, he was picking up shifts at home depot

>>2793124
>excuse me sir I’m looking for the circular saws
>the industrial revolution and it’s consequences…
>excuse me what was that?
>aisle 6

if ur deep enough in the wilderness and stealthy enough you can just squat there. dont need to pay for it if nobody knows ur there.

Holy shit just go innawoodz and don't tell anyone, it's that simple. You fucking normalfags always have to tell everyone everything, STFU for once in your life and maybe you'll be able to have your LARP fantasy come true. FFS that guy in Maine hid for decades, all you have to do is not be an attention whore for once in your life.

>>2793132
kek>>2793183

>>2793074
wow you're crazy

>>2793237
no your crazy

>>2792720
He donated the chattel property and the hut. Not the real estate.

>>2793074
>Uncle Ted blew up high school teachers when he was mad at IBM executives.
Nah, it wasn't just IBM executives, he was rightfully mad at university teachers, having spent time around them. Them and the so called academia intellectuals with paper-thin integrity who kept their mouth shut and looked the other way to line up their pockets.

>>2793818
>Nah, it wasn't just IBM executives, he was rightfully mad at university teachers, having spent time around them. Them and the so called academia intellectuals with paper-thin integrity who kept their mouth shut and looked the other way to line up their pockets.
the rest of his theory is troon science fiction garbage from his suffering existence, but his entire point was that was caused by a demented education system that nobody is paying attention to the mass horror in the US
he realized every "expert" was just a cuck trying to get a government drip tap of the fed running off pumping the economy till this very day, instead of just a free market
and he was being the free market by dealing justice to the people generally viewed as morally incorruptible, but all are exactly what they demonized, nazis executing orders that never happened except their orders were clear,
kill the young, maim the males, make sure whoever survives is so traumatized they continue to project their karma onto generations of kids trying to make their place in society
they make every number up, and cut the trees down

>>2793735
How did he live on national park land

>>2793826
He did not ask, he just done it

>>2793838
That isn't possible in today's world

>>2793852
Its totally possible but people are afraid to try

>>2792485 (OP)
>without anyone ever finding you
Fantasy

>>2793871
I could be easily done

>>2793018
>Oh God no! You mean I have to try now?! Give some EFFORT?
>That's not fair!
>Mommy! Where are my tendies?!

Buck up, kiddo. Grab those bootstraps.

>>2792485 (OP)
home the way you make it

>>2792485 (OP)
I just noticed he is holding a double bit boy ax

>>2792485 (OP)
>Will this become something people do as actually buying a house gets harder and harder?
Lol no, everyone who LARPs about this just massively under-estimates how difficult it is to survive alone in the wilderness. Maybe 1/10000 people who talk about this is actually capable of it.

>>2793977
I am capable of building the cabin with hand tools
Decent at fishing and hunting
So so at growing a garden

I think I would still need some dry goods to make it

>>2793892
no one remembers this guy

>>2794152
Pepperidge Farms remembers

>>2793977
What is your favorite thing to LARP about anon?

>>2793977
This is why I don't do it. Even knowing what I know, I still think it'd only be a 50/50 shot at making it out there. Much as I'd like to.

>>2794207
I'm a Wolverine fighting off the Soviet invasion. Also, I get to fuck Lea Thompson every night in the woods. It's nice.

>>2794229
>Lea Thompson
had to google that

>>2794241
Still would.

>>2793906
>Point out people had it way easier and more freedom in your time
>I am the pussy somehow
Lmao you faggot boomer lived on female mode.

>>2794254
anon

>>2794241
thats an old woman

I sometimes pretend that I am dick p when I am out boondocking in my 4x4 van

I will never be as cool as him, but I do get to spend lots of time alone in the wilderness with no one else around

>>2794229
These kids are too young for Howard man.

>>2794697
Oh ducky...

>>2793735
>chattel property

redundant

>>2794254
you would not

>>2793735
This guy owned slaves?! WTF!

>>2794894
Alaska is a pretty old fashioned place

>>2795143
what are you trying to say here?

>>2795143
Data out of Ukraine says that even steel shot won't take these down.
You need hardened ammunition like tungsten to shoot down a drone.

>>2794894
Chattel just means transportable. Slaves are humans being kept as chattel property, but anything that isn’t permanently affixed to your home is chattel property as well.

>>2795159
Just mgtow your own way and you dont have to worry about any of that shit anymore

>>2795159
>steel shot at [velocity] will not damage a small lightweight drone
Based retard

>>2795178
they are indestructible anon

>>2792485 (OP)
>without anyone ever finding you.
nope
people are fucking everywhere
you can buy remote access land in canada for around $200 an acre
>Will this become something people do as actually buying a house gets harder and harder?
i think the frontier will return once the population starts collapsing

>>2795530
>once the population starts collapsing
that wont happen in your lifetime

>>2795543
last peak population estimation by the un is 2060
every time they update their estimates it gets rolled back by decades
i think its really going to be 2040 or 2050

>>2795549
Yet the collapse does not begin for decades after peak

>>2795567
>Yet the collapse does not begin for decades after peak
?
the global population starts collapsing, or decreasing, immediately after the global peak
developed nation first because they have the oldest populations and the lowest birth rates
were already seeing diminishing returns when it comes to immigration
once the gibs are gone most of the economic migrants that are here will leave
thats why govts are panicking with the immigration, its called a bust out scheme
politicians are trying to keep everyone from realizing were on a sinking ship, so they can steal as much as they can before anyone notices

>>2795591
2020 really exposed the cracks in all the systems and just how much everything is already on life support. I think you’re absolutely right anon. They’re going to bleed every last drop of productivity and production and wealth from the poor (all of us) and then depopulate the planet. I think Covid was a test and also a genetic testing system for whatever they’ve got planned next.

Spoilers if you caught Covid or got the shot it’s already too late for you and the elites have decided to weed your dna out.

>>2795591
How many people do you think will be alive when you die of old age?

>>2795591
>the global population starts collapsing, or decreasing, immediately after the global peak

Collapsing and decreasing are not the same thing at all anon. not even close

>>2795744
they are synonymous
>>2795740
9 billion

>>2795757
>they are synonymous
They are not synonymous in this context at all anon. You are quite mistaken

>>2795757
If there are 9 billion people alive when you die, how is that a collapse in any way?

>>2793035
Yeah, one random hunter sets off a booby trap, and you think every one will just leave you alone after that? They will hunt you down.

>>2795881
because the peak will be over 9
>>2795765
>a building starts collapsing at terminal velocity

>>2795894
The human population is not a building. Very silly comparison

>>2795757
you are thinking of prolapse

why are there so many angry faggots on this board
i can't relate to any of you, do you even go /out
i come here in hope of learning something only to leave dissapointed because i outrank all of you in everything so there's really nothing to learn from you normalfag fags

>>2796388
what has your knickers in a twist anon?

>>2795159
yeah and soldiers in the korean war claimed the chinese soldiers "winter coats" stopped .30 cal. motherfuckers cant shoot dude

>>2796388
brother the people posting on this site are posting on this site. What I mean is they are not /out/ they are not playing /v/idya or watching /tv/, they are posting here. This is the refuge of autists and normalfag retards who like the "idea" of something, but are too poor/retarded/whatever to actually do it.
4chan is for acting like an asshole and shitting the place up, don't seek real advice from this shithole. There isnt some cool, niche, underappreciated community here. We suck, and we make it suck on purpose.

>>2792488
>wildman
>wild man of the woods
>woodwose/wodewose
Legit. OP is acting like people haven't done this since time immemorial. Wildmen still exist.

>>2796445
OP is talking about people building homes on public lands in north america

Not many people do this

>>2796445
why dont they have youtube channels then?

>>2796438
This better not be true

Uncle Dick really helped me MGTOW my own way about ten years ago. Thanks to the anons from back then that turned me on to this stuff and I hope you get your commune some day

>>2796721
it's illegal

>>2797008
They show all kinds of illegal stuff on the youtubes

>>2797008
>myehh myehh its illegal myehh

thats what you sound like

>>2796913
Ntah but it really is.

>>2796438
that's why i stopped posting here so often.
A majority of this board is gear talk and larp.
No, actually going outside.
You want people that actually participate in the hobby?
>>>/p/
>>>/xs/
>>>/fit/

>>2797064
>participate in the hobby
in their hobby*

>>2797046
Do you really hear myehh in your head constantly?

>>2797079
Only when people is a whiny bitch

>>2797046
>>2797144
Do you know how to read? I was saying the people already doing it don't publicize it because it's illegal. You can do whatever you like big boy
>>2797064
lol no one on /fit/ lifts

>>2797201
you can tell who lifts by the topic of the thread or the general discussion in the thread.
But no one on this boadd goes outside.
This board is literally just glamping not even survivalcraft which would be tolerable at least. It's just chinkshit and glamping.
great example is that retard who tried to put lighter fluid in a butane lighter, that's the average user on this board.
i only come here to see if there are any quality posts
there usually isnt.

>>2796438
Not exactly. I own a property off the grid and do projects on and working to live at it permanently. Sometimes it’s fun just to chill and read some of the anons’ experiences on here.

>>2797215
is that poops?

>>2797215
sonoran desert?
is it close enough to a city to commute?

>>2792525
>lives in far isolation deliberately for religious freedom and independence
>men still find you to rape
things don't change between men and women, do they?

>>2797209
They face the same issue I think which is that if you're doing the activities correctly, there isn't really anything to discuss. So a discussion board is superfluous and ends up being mostly about consumerism or women, respectively

>>2797347
Nature is not wasteful

>>2797347
God sent those rapists

>>2797776
why would you post poops? What do you gain from this?

>>2797777
>>2797777
>>2797777
Thank you mods for getting rid of the poops

>>2797063
that makes sad

>>2792485 (OP)
I’m looking at buying my first house and this is tempting desu.
>125 year old gut job
>5 acres
>needs literally everything
That’ll be 300k, sir.

>>2798477
That is some productive land
zone 9a? Damn you could grow anything there

>>2792485 (OP)
My plan this year is to canoe down the mackenzie river, find a spot within helihospital distance without too many skeeters and play survivor man. Hunt trap fish, and, as your pic related recommends rip boards and cache build

>>2798493
Thats a fucking adventure!
How much time are you going to spend doing it?

>>2798553
Hopefully indefinitely
But i wont be surprised if i make to many mistakes the first time and my build wont make the winter

>>2792858
They won't find me if I go unnaground!

>>2793183
But I wanna be a youtuber so I can earn money while living comfy innawoods, perhaps innawoods unnaground.

>>2798614
>but i dont actually wanna go outside

>>2798614
do you remember MGTOWUG?
there was talk that we could have an underground commune where we would raise goats

This isnt a free country.
DNR demons will bulldoze it

>>2798730
>do you remember MGTOWUG?
MGTOW unnaground! That has been around for a decade or more.
Shit, I remember so much crap all over the years that was just maladaptive daydreaming for extremely online people. (including myself)
A few commune building ideas; I remember one thread from years and years ago where it was supposedly a guy in China who could facilitate a bunch of anons moving there, getting some shit job and getting some property.

Daydreaming online is so much fun, an unhealthy form of escapism, but so much fun.

>>2798616
I haz a shovel!

>>2792485 (OP)
>cuck sheds
It's not safe. Helicopters will spot you easily unless you do a really good job at camouflaging the roof and the sides but even then there's still thermal/infrared cameras and no matter how much insulation you make around the cabin, it's bound to always have a different temperature from the surroundings and the bigger the cabin the more easy to notice.

The only viable shelter to live off the grid in the era of drones and infrared cameras is to go deep down as much as possible even with our limited capabilities when there's no time to spare. This is something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jquQ44_Ir4

This guy tried to expand the shelter in the second part but failed since the drenched clay (due to rain) was too heavy for one of the pillars of the large room (it collapsed) but the concept is a solid one. To reduce risk of collapse you only need to avoid large rooms, and make sure your tunnel is arched or in triangle shape (better). Anyways, you can use metal too if you have means to bring it to your selected location.

>>2798815
>Helicopters will spot you easily
Why would they even be looking for you?
Helecopters dont randomly search the woods

>>2798858
Patrols don't need to be looking for you specifically to spot your illegal cabin. You'll get kicked out of the land, losing anything that you cannot carry with you.
There's no better way to live off-grid than unnaground.

>>2798895
But again why would there even be helicopters in the area?

>>2798895
I think you dont understand how remote many north american forests are. There are very few helicopters roaming out there and they are not looking for cabins

>>2798916
90% of north american forests are unexplored im not fucking with you.
We only say they're explored because we fly plains and sattelites over them.
meaning the could potentially be some undiscovered plant or animal spieces out there.
But you arent allowed to go because hecking park ranger jannie said no

>>2798988
>plains
planes*

>>2798988
They cant stop you

>>2798776
I dont remember the china guy but I do remember a rich old guy that offered to fund the commune but no one could decide on a piece of land

>>2798916
> remote
> out there
That would mean in the ass end of nowhere. That would also mean no access to civilization. That would mean you would have to hunt, fish, cut wood, farm, etc. for day to day life and if you didn't have good logistics to start with (if you had it would negate the whole hiding innawoods thing) you would also have to make clothes, make utensils and tools.

I mean, even odd characters like ForestAnon had a reasonably close by access to civilization, in this case a road where he could get a ride at or just walk as the road will be way more comfortable to walk on than on the dirt and rocks up and down hills.

Everyone who is even remotely successfully with the whole innawoods thing either has deep pockets (rich or with a good passive income, like Dick Proenneke, these usually buy their own land, going the Dick route wouldn't cut it nowadays, they would send a squad of troon SWAT to fuck you in the ass) or settles in strategic places.
Like the various fugitives that end up being found in the woods.Always reasonably near civilization.
For example
https://spectrumnews1.com/wi/madison/news/2019/08/21/wausau-hunter-recalls-finding-fugitive-s-hidden-bunker-
Jeremiah Button had a pretty dope hideout. Innawoods, near a landfill so he could scavenge useful shit. Lasted 3.5 years on the run until some random f*ggot found his unnaground hideout and reported him to the cops.

>>2799374
>I mean, even odd characters like ForestAnon had a reasonably close by access to civilization
That guy is a normie that lives in a van.
Do you even know who MGTOW Dick is?>>2799374

>>2799409
>That guy is a normie that lives in a van.
To be fair, ForestAnon now lives in a crap house in the ghetto with his gf, but you must be mistaking the guy with someone else.
https://www.youtube.com/@ForestAnon/videos

>>2799409
>Do you even know who MGTOW Dick is?
Yes, he made a cabin on public land illegally and being a boomer it all worked out for him.
He had supplies flown in and freelanced by photographing and filming stuff while out there.
With the current laws and economic reality, there's no chance of doing something of the same sort without having a good bit of money to buy your own land and sustain yourself.

>>2799481
Put the whole thread on clutch

>>2799481
you could buy this

https://youtube.com/shorts/5nmnCYfJ1ho?si=wN3wBkWckBPs3wcY

>>2799507
what does that even mean

I miss the old days when everyone here loved dick

>>2792536
I've been reading this book on my phone, it's amazing. Whatever you say about Dick he wasn't a LARPer he really lived the life in the woods just not in some edgy "I want to run away from society" way. He kept in contact with friends and family through regular mail deliveries.

>>2800371
Don’t worry we all know how much you love dick.
Me too though. >>2792536
>>2800387
I love it and am happy I own it. Just a lot of faggy zoomer and alphletes shitting the entire place up anymore.

>>2799740
it means he likes suck and hold fat cock
which is why he's saying clutch

>>2800436
when he says put the whole board on clutch he means that he wants to clutch every cock on the board

>>2800409
>>2800436
>>2800441
Is that all you think about?

>>2800475
fuck off clutchy

>>2800475
Low hanging fruit? Also, fuck off clutch I posted his journals weeks ago. We love DICK around here.

>>2800475
why do you wanna clutch my cock so badly?

>>2798493
>mackenzie river
>without too many skeeter
Does not exist.

>>2800546
>>2800529
>>2800516
kek, clutch poster got put on clutch

>>2798858
>Why would they even be looking for you?
They aren't looking for you specifically, they are looking for grow ops.

>>2800759
that is not really a thing anymore and never happened more than a mile from the roads anyways

>>2800436
sounds like he is a real candyassgot

>>2800759
not anymore

>>2798895

Up here in the North East, the earth is shallow. You hit solid bedrock after only a couple feet. This isn't viable here.

Not to mention, in any cold climate, such a dwelling is going to trap cold air in the winter and get flooded out in the Summer.

You would have to pick your site very carefully. It looks like this kind of shelter is only viable in certain climates.

>>2801456
how about drilling and blasting into the rock so you have a rock cave to live in?

>>2801456
elon should just bore into that canadian sheild and create an underground paradise with skylight tubes and underground farmings and stuff.

we could have year round underground offgrid life at the same tempurature

Growing mushrooms down there?

Goats underground also for milks and meat?

>>2801619
>>2801670

Okay dudes. I'm all ears regarding how you're going to affordably drill or blast into the granite bedrock we have here.

It's not like a civilian can just up and buy dynamite at the corner store.

>>2801692
...and another thing... I'm not a god damn canuck, I'm from Vermont.

>>2801692
>ffordably drill or blast into the granite bedrock
Using N bombs

>>2801931Just stone cold blasting Ns all day long until the rock gives way


long until the

>>2792485 (OP)
How do you find a suitable hidden spot to build a cabin, that isn't a fucking pain to get to in winter?

>>2802093
It's either hidden or convenient to access.
Unless you go unnaground, of course.

>>2802093
>that isn't a fucking pain to get to in winter?
This is not something you commute to
This is for leaving society behind.

>>2792485 (OP)
>Will this become something people do as actually buying a house gets harder and harder?
No
Look at big cities with housing crises like Beijing or Hong Kong
Most people would rather live a shoebox than leave behind their jobs, comforts, social ties, etc they have in the city

>>2792485 (OP)
I'm moving into my sister's bungalow which is just a single room with no utilities.

I guess I'm going to larp the /out/ lifestyle in their backyard. Whilst going into the main house to use the kitchen and toilet/bathroom

>>2793002
>He just wanted to live mostly alone, in a mostly untouched area and enjoy life his own way.
And yet he ended up as a symbol for survivalists, quite unfortunate.

>>2793072
>for example in the yukon they have been burning down all the cabins built up in the middle of nowhere for some bullshit fire safety reason which is nothing but a crock of fucking shit. they are just seething that people want to drop out of this dog shit society and go chase a true human experience.
Time to take up nomadic squatting.

>>2802410

But I want a garden and pastures and sheeps

>>2802410
Sounds like a prime target for roving bands of nomadic squatters.

>>2792719
Have Joker built his resort for men yet?

>>2802663
>get kicked out of house/cabin because muh laws or bank bullshit
>be approached by nomadic squatters, armed with guns whenever possible
>join them
>travel in groups, sleeping in abandoned/foreclosures/bank-owned buildings
>not actually causing trouble, it's just that a large groups is pretty visible to local governments
>they take up quick jobs to get money for food and essentials
>if cops pressure too much, they move on
>resist only if coppers actually want to arrest them
Imagine (semi)anarchists who are more than just a bunch of addicts and criminals.

>>2802812
>get arrested for breaking and entering, and trespassing
>you're a dumb larper so you're supposedly armed while doing this
>>it's now a felony
lol

>>2802813
Try arresting a whole group of dudes who just want a place to sleep
Considering people cheered when CEO got pwned, they might actually get quite a lot of support if they become known before.

>>2802816
The luigi shooting proved nothing aside from incels being right in that as long as it's chas it's socially acceptable

>>2802816
>Try arresting a whole group of dudes who just want a place to sleep
Police do this all the time?

>>2802821
>chas
chad*

>incel shoots someone
>"OH MY GOD WE NEED TO BAN GUNS"

>Chad shoots someone
>"OH MY GOD SO HOT"
the entire situation is fucking retarded and you should honestly just take care of yourself
medical companies wouldnt be so powerful if people just took care of themselves

>>2802823
and the most hilarious part is that everyone moved on after he got put behind bars.
like everyone virtue signaled and then nothing changed
top tier stupidity

>>2802822
With criminals who have no social support

>>2802821
>>2802823
Show me an incel who shoot a CEO
Also, you're trying to associate all people who got fucked over by the system with people you consider subhumans.,

>>2802825
so you're telling me if a fugly dude shot a ceo he'd be worshipped by society like luigi? Use your brain, you kniw damn well the people that got wet for luigi would be turning around and saying some shit about new yorks revolving door for crime or how we have a mental health crisis.
Dont make me laugh dude. You live in a fantasy land.
Everyone was curious as to who did it when it initally happened but when they found out he was handsome everyone went feral.
you're delusional.
Especially since barely anything came of the shooting. All CEOs are gonna do is up their security or travel in a group.

Imagine shooting someone because you couldnt handle going a year without sex.

Meanwhile the average dude gets complimented by a woman much less than that. And then there's a whole subgroup of men that dont even have sex with their wives because their wife doesnt want to.
Fucking weaklings.
No wonder there has been an uptick in people that wanna homestead or flat out check out of society. You'd have to be retarded to wanna participate in this shit.

just like (You)
You shouldnt make a group of people fix the problem if the majority doesnt even wanna fix the problem themselves. Everyone just went back to doing whatever after it all blew over.

>>2802828
ok, cool.
But are you supporting nomadic squatters or not?

>>2802829
As long as they have designated squatting areas

>>2802832
>designated squatting areas
You're not trying to tell me they're supposed to listen to the system that fucked them over in first place, right?

>>2802834
The majority of homeless people in the united states are homeless because they choose to be not because the government made them.
It's like that video by glink when he interviewed a bunch of people in a homeless encampment.
They were all homeless because they didnt wanna hop off crystal meth.
If they sobered up the shelter they were staying out of would take them in.
And in his recent video of his home city austin
the majority of people that were homeless there were homeless because they didnt wanna work anymore.
I remember i had a friend on discord who CHOSE to live in a car because he didnt wanna fucking work.

There's a difference between being royally fucked over and just being a leech.

>>2802837
I'm not talking about addicts.
Shelters are filthy and dangerous.
Not wanting to work for system that doesn't appreciate you is a legit reason

>>2802838
Either way you're gonna have to work.
That nomadic encampment isn't gonna be sustainable unless they still participate in society via crime.
>need food
>steal food
>get arrested
you want eggs everyday you're gonna have to raise chicken
idk what's so hard to understand about that

>>2802841
Crime is apart of society because if gives someone a job.(cops)
So even if you think you checked out you're still in society.
your entire point is moot.
The only way to completely check out is to go completely off grid to a point where you dont even pay property tax

>>2802841
As it was mentioned earlier - some work for locals to pay for food and essentials, nothing beyond that because it's just richfags at the top make money from rent and so on.

>>2802845
>i need to participate in society in order to check out of society

>>2802846
Well, you can go off-grid and revert to stone age, but something tells me it wouldn't exactly work.
It's more about opposing the system and finding workarounds.

why is there no board for construction/engineering/architecture?

>>2802912
/diy/

>>2802790
not sure youtube algorithms no longer recommend his vids to me

>>2802859
he can check out but carry a starlink for shitpoasting

you can mgtow your own way however you want to

>>2792485 (OP)
MGTOW? Did I just enter a timewarp?

>>2803526
MGTOW is alive and well anon, and /out/ was one of its earliest supporters

>>2803593
What really happened was a small number of extremely dedicated whiners infested /out/ some time around 2015 and a decade later they're still here posting the same things and not going outside

>>2803945
Put em on clutch

>>2803948
No one here is on clutch

>>2804056
Speak for yourself.
>>2792536

>>2792485 (OP)
>laughs in observation drones
Sorry goyim.

>>2804145
false

>>2804065
I speak for the trees

Dick was the best human of his generation

>>2803948
>>2804056
what is all this clutch business

>>2803945
what a jaundiced view you have

>>2792485 (OP)
You can get away with doing this in parts of Alaska and Canada, but anywhere else especially managed land you'll get someone pounding on your door wondering why you have a log cabin on their property. Someone absolutely will chase you off of their land because in some places you can just move in and claim it for yourself.
If you got 100 acres of deeded hunting land off in a place where it's worthless, knock yourself out.

>>2806106
it means he likes sucking cock

>>2806272
well he cant suck mines
thats gay

>>2806272
gross

>>2793109
he got a 100$ from the paper everyone talks about. Where do you get this information? From your dreams?

>>2808027
you dont anything about ted

>>2792868
>who are the frontiersman?

>>2808027
Were you even alive before Ted got Fed?

I miss white American internet.

>>2792868
false

>>2808212
That was never real

>>2798730
Now that sounds good, any chance theres a good way to read up on that? Also why goats specifically?

>>2810329
>Also why goats specifically?
because they can be milked and can easily live underground and graze on fungi augmented by hay

>>2810329
The internet has been scrubbed of the old MGTOWUG guys

Total shame

>>2793826
Because he built his cabin before there was a national park there.
(Richard built his cabin in 1968 and Lake Clarke National Park was not established until 1980)
Have you guys really not watched the videos on this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=hy-4NxJRxNQ

Also, he didn't set out on this project until he was 51 years old so there is still hope for (You) to do something with your life as well.

And for all of you defeatists who say this can't be done anymore there are people who are not only still doing it, but have done so for even longer than Richard did. Turns out that if you are a decent person and dont cause trouble the law will happily ignore your unconventional lifestyle in most cases.

https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/sports/northland-outdoors/beryl-novak-has-lived-alone-in-his-one-room-deer-shack-for-44-years-thats-the-way-he-likes-it

>>2797008
>it's illegal
No. You don't even need to move to Alaska to build a cabin and live in it legally. This is the channel that showed me that it could still be done back in 2014 or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWwyR5ImD8Y

So spbp is correct, "people already do it".

" A man needs a woman like a fish needs a bicycle"
Dick Proenneke, 1963

>>2810700
can you give a quick run down?

He was the goat

>>2792490
>he heavily relied on industrial society.

I fucking would. If you think 9-5 wagecuckery is a grind try living in alaska without the help of the haber-bosch process. anywhere would be difficult.

>>2813604
The problem with wageslavery isn't working 9-5, the problem with wage cuckery is being surrounded by idiots who have shit priorities, retarded spending habits and are habitual TV watchers who talk and think like the TV. The other problem with wage cuckery is most bosses are incompetent and shouldn't be allowed to ever be in charge of people ever for any reason. There is also the issue of crazy bitches and lazy DEI hires so it ends up 10% of the people end up doing 90% of the work.

>>2813667

wow sounds much worse than trying to live completely off grid in interior alaska with zero external resupply.

>>2792980
>Is he going to cut the boobies off women and lay them throughout the area near his home?
Of course not you savage, he's going to nail them on trees.

>>2794453
And?
>Still wood.

>>2813604
we survived without it

>>2812526
I never knew that was where that comes from

BUMPING FOR RELEVANCE

If you are an anon considering doing this in a small group in the rockies, hmu

>>2815985
I live down in the Winds and I've been doing this since 2022. COVID helped me abandon all the normie shit.

>>2815993
I’m looking at the same area. Idaho as well. I’ll probably bring some goats and a starlink

You go out on trips or live out of your chud wagon full time? Down to chat?

>>2816008
idaho does not put up with squatters

>>2792485 (OP)
Love in a room in my sisters backyard. Just bare bones room. No toilet or utilities besides electricity.

At night especially on rainy or cold days, when I can't be fucked going to the main house to take a piss. What should I use in my room that won't smell or be too gross to have in there?

>>2792485 (OP)
>do this
>twist ankle while walking in woods
>get eaten by wolves
Don't do this. At least not alone.

>>2816422
The trick is to empty your large piss jug every single day.

To do this , dilute ten to one and water flowers or grass , not the same spot though, you have to keep track and rotate through the yard. You will be amazed how much the nitrogen helps things grow.

If you leave piss in a jug it starts to break down and it gets amazingly rank

>>2816444
nice quads fatso

>>2816212
Squatters do not put up with Idaho

>>2792485 (OP)
uhh no, you can get in trouble for this unfortunately

>>2810691
40 acres for $700 goodluck getting a price like that anywhere even adjusted for inflation

>>2793072
> go on a spiritual retreat
cringe

>>2818754
There's deep irony in someone complaining about being unable to escape from society by posting a jak from their phone.

>>2818754
you can just buy land, which is cheap in bumfuck nowhere

>>2818754
Land of the free my ass

Dick was the best human ever born

I don't understand building a cabin when a tent can be just as good and allows you to move if you get caught or if development comes.

>>2819164
Didn’t you already get told to fuck off in your own thread?

>>2792536
Does he talk about how much of a pussy hound he was? I worked at Lake Clark and everyone in port alsworth knows the dude was regularly laying pipe on hotties who’d come and visit.

The whole MGTOW thing being centered around him is laughable. The guy was regularly getting resupplied and his buddy had a cabin across the lake from him. His buddy actually still lives there and lady rangers are told to not shower or bath in plain sight because he’s over there with his ‘nocs watching and spanking his monkey.

Not detracting from what Dick did. He was a master craftsman and his cabin is truly impressive. I just laugh at the MGTOW fags and how romanticized their image of Dick is.

>>2819271
>I just laugh at the fags and how romanticized their image of dick is.

Heh

>>2819271
Sounds like you’ve spent a lot of time thinking about Richard and dick.

>>2819271
>>2819271
You are making shit up on the internet , what a silly hobby

>>2819319
Cope, incel. Dude was slaying the puss.

>>2819341
troll

Anyone with access to even a small loan could do it right now, and then disappear. Just borrow 100K, with some effort it could be done. Buy a truck, some land in a remote place, build your lot and wash your hands of living with the rest of us forever, preferring only a small group of local like-minded individuals. By the time your credit score has recovered you've created your own place in the world, and you can then have 1 foot in both society and true /out/life.

>>2819784
they will just take your house to pay back the loan

>>2819784
That's stupid.
1. You won't get a 100k personal loan with zero assets making 12k a year.
2. You won't achieve self sustainability without income with a 100k start.
3. Good luck buying land for 100k -truck -building costs

I've been slowly working on a single 20ft container tinyhome hidden away on my family's property for half a year and I am already approaching 10k spent on literally just some insulation and most of a power solution.
It's nice right now having fuck you tier power generation.

>>2819808
you can if you have credit score

>>2820187
Good credit scores get you good rates. Not high amount loans. I can tell youve never borrowed money or financed anything before. And go on about how you dont owe money to shekelstein.

>>2820276
You dont know everything old man

>>2802348
this plus no job or expectations = heaven

>>2820617
NTA but he’s right, no bank is just gonna front you $100k lol even if you have perfect credit.

>>2792485 (OP)
>Will this become something people do as actually buying a house gets harder and harder?
No
>Right now I am looking at spots in the rocky mountains that would take two days to hike to
People will find you. Get the fuck out of the national forests you fucking bum. They aren't a playground for you to go chop down trees and build forts.

>>2818937
>Yukon
>land of the free

>>2820688
if you got 800 , they for sure will

>>2820691
>They aren't a playground for you to go chop down trees and build forts.
I do not agree
Catch me if you can boolkicker

>>2819341
You are an idiot

>>2821174
agreed

The drones might find you

>>2820764
They won't. The type of loan you're talking about doesn't exist. A loaning institution wants at least the chance of getting their money back. You accepting a loan of $100k in bad faith and then fucking off to the woods to die of malnutrition isn't something any financial institution is interested in.

>>2793146
This is what I think OP is aiming at, at least in his delusional fantasy. If you lay low and hike three or four days away from anyone or anything else you can definitely still make it happen. Always the risk of getting royally fucked though if found out and depending on what/whose land you're on

>>2822554
Its easily done with a few credit cards

>>2820691
the forest is for sure my playground

>>2820766
>Catch me if you can boolkicker
I don't need to. You're inside your house larping as an outdoorsman.

>>2793092
>can't live on it only use for rec
this is the type of laws that make me hate the modern world, taxes are one thing, purchasing property another, but If I own a plot of land and build a house I should be able to live there indefinitely (especially if I pay my goy bux)

>>2796438
You're not wrong, but if you're gonna post on any site nowadays it might as well be this one. Ironically with as belligerent and toxic as people can be here, here is where I still occasionally see some genuine, kind, helpful human interaction. Better than going on Reddit with 99% bots and total faggots (at least here you have containment boards like /pol/, /v/ and /tv/ to take care of that).

>>2792485 (OP)
>I am realizing that you could live like this in many places in the mountains in the US and Canada without anyone ever finding your corpse
inb4 I'm a defeatist
but I just don't think that people realize how much work this kind of lifestyle is

>>2792945
if you "own" land then you are already taxed

>>2824834
land if the freedoms

>>2827844
Dilibérto es comido mexicano, no es para chinitos

I think a land can be bought for like what 50K? I do not know how much ''freedom'' a land buys you but it's a start

>>2827854
its for everyone to eat a dilberto

>>2827859
>50K
Depends on where. In my state I don't think this would get you anything anymore.

Back in the 80s in Australia my uncle built his house entirely by himself, and he was only licensed as an electrician. To get council approval he just had an architect and plumber check his work to make sure it was up to code. Is this still legal/viable anywhere?