Thread 2817756

>nooo you have to buy a big backpack with hip belts
>meanwhile nearly every youtube influencer that actually camps in the backcountry is using small ultralight packs and almost never have hip belts even

>>2817756 (OP)
Go outside.

>"Hey, do this"
>"but my youtube influencers dont do that"

Are you serious my nigger?

>>2817756 (OP)
Youtubers are queers and dont know shit they buy a chatgpt script generated by a jeet

>>2817756 (OP)
But the pack in OP’s pic has a hip belt.

Obvioulsy you watch scammers on Youtube, these travels vlogger always get into shitty town filled with criminals, into shitty hotels, they all are pro ukrainian and blame trump for everything, they give money away to people something you never do if you are a real person

How are you retards falling for the most obvious bait thread?

>>2817849
No matter how obnoxious or retarded it is, even if it's bait, there's still someone out there who actually subscribes to the belief, so even if you don't personally believe in it one way or the other it can still be argued for and against.

In olden times this was called discourse

>>2817756 (OP)
gr8b8m8

Ever noticed how those youtubefags also don't sweat despite (supposedly) hiking up the steepest and highest mountains in their areas? or how their packs are always so full that there's no way for them to stick a camera and tripod in there?
Almost like they're actually within a few metres of their cars...

How many of these youtubers have suffered from hypothermia or had to get rescued because of their retarded ultrafag practices?
Also:
>posts a pic of person wearing a ultrafag pack with hipbelts.

Every single culture in history that portaged heavy loads on foot used tumplines, with the weight pressing directly down on the spinal column for maximum efficiency. The hips were only used to carry lightweight tools and weapons, maybe a #3 sword at the absolute most.

I don't use hip straps because my hips are where I carry my gun and survival knife. I use tumplines for heavy loads like all of our ancestors did, but generally my camping loads are not heavy enough to even necessitate this. Either way hip straps suck and mean you don't know how your own body works and signals that you are probably unarmed, just maximum gay.

>>2818497
My ancestors used a travois

>>2818515
But certainly not a hipstrap

>>2817756 (OP)
>meanwhile nearly every youtube influencer
the camera crew is carrying most of their shit retard
do you think bear grylls was just alone out there with a magic floating camera?

>>2818497
>he thinks hip belts interfere with guns
>probably never carried either
the hip belt sits on top of your hips, not around them, unless your pack is too tall for you. It doesn't interfere with a regular pistol holster or knife (it does interfere with IWB, though, but hiking with IWB is a pain anyways).

Also, every culture that could figure out a way o get hipbelts tight enough to bear load used them. For example, German military packs from approx the 1700s - in other words, the moment soldiers had to carry their own loads instead of having a wagon train behind them - up until ww2 (all pretty much the same model, just with the fur being replaced by leather and then cotton) are designed to attach to the outer belt and transfer weight into it through their wooden frames.

>>2817756 (OP)
just walk with your hips bro

>>2818863
Bssed

This meme is about me, still covering mad ground and all of you have baby legs. :)

>>2817756 (OP)
is the big pole on the back of his pack because he has a trekking pole tent but isn't carrying trekking poles?

>>2819192
Nah, it's so he has somewhere to put his mail-ordered "I've been there" stickers.

>>2819225
>>2819192
Are you guys trolling? It's an straight handled ice axe. This particular one is basically only useful or glacier travel though to keep your footing and for self arresting if you fall and start to slide. He has a fold up trekking poles in his right pouch (The neon yellow sticks) and likely another in the left pouch.

>>2819236
wrong again bucko. It's a hollow point spear for hunting bears.

>>2818497
based tumpline enjoyer.
fuck reddit belts.

>>2817820
ogrefag

>>2817756 (OP)
>carries an ice axe but also has fucking springs for traction devices
>sleeping pad that is no more than 2 feet long unrolled

>>2821261
i know you are just trolling, but I want to lose my time:
those are snow crampons and the pad is the one for fucking sit on snow, because according to the ice axe and the panorama he is actually going.to.the.hillybilly.christyllysilly.SNOW

>>2819236
Yeah, it's an ice axe. Which he clearly doesn't carry because he expects he'll need it, else he'd wear much warmer clothing.
It's there so he can show off the stickers, which btw would be scratched and torn if that ice axe actualy saw use.

>>2817756 (OP)
got yourself in the gear vortex. find shit you like and stop pretending that it matters what other people say you "need" to do, whether that pressure is real or percieved.

>meanwhile nearly every youtube influencer that actually camps in the backcountry
I know it's bait but it's well crafted

Idk how you get by without a big backpack my 80l bag is barely enough
The sleeping bag and extra clothes uses at least a quarter of that. Then food takes up the next quarter. The last half is misc gear like medical, tools, supplies for fire and cooking.

>>2817756 (OP)
wheres his tent and sleeping bag

>>2817756 (OP)
there is a backpack inside of you

>>2822625
Not all of us are in the arctic. I carry a massive pack (~120l) in winter too, but for summer, a 30l pack is enough even with bulky milsurp (Carinthia Tropen, tarp, sleeping mat on the outside + food, water, clothes). With ultralightfaggotry, a 10l pack might even be enough - provided, of course, that you never hike for more than a day or two, else that gear might fail.

>>2822755
The breakdown I gave was for summer too. For a 7 day excursion. Maybe I carry too much food and clothes.

>>2822625
I use a 40l for short-term backpacking and just about fill it up. The sleeping bag thing is a real concern since in my case it takes up like a third, plus my tent which is somewhat bulky. I can easily see getting a fancy sleeping bag that can pack down to like a few liters and a tent that also does the same, which would free up a shit ton of space for additional sustainment stuff. Probably not enough for a through hike but enough to extend for several days.

toobfags just drive to a location, get a few shots, and leave

literally roleplaying while peddling some sponsored shit

>>2822927
Ye I've done this several times it's based

>>2822927
they all shoot on (daddy's) private land
I don't know how anybody is still following anyone who's making "content" on yt or social media when they're all literal human billboards making goddamn ads
but I guess if you don't explicitly tell retarded cattle normies that something is an ad they won't thinks it is. holy fucking shit influencers are cancer
I can't believe people like ads, I would literally kill myself without adblockers

>>2822816
>Maybe I carry too much food and clothes.
Probably, I did the same when I started.
With wool or synthetics, you can get by with 3 sets, just drying them on the back of the pack over the day, and keeping one in reserve in case of rain.
With food, volume varies massively. My go to is oatmeal, dehydrated soups and ramen noodles, simply because those are cheap and available in the supermarket here, while other freezedried foods require mailorder and cost ten times as much. Bacon, cheese and crackers are also dense (but heavier), but if you carry fruit, vegetables ore the like, it's going to have more volume. Still shouldn't be nearly as much, though - my regular food for an entire week, including plenty of fruit, milk and yogurt that's 90% water and that I'd never bring on a hike, is only around 25l.
I never measured the volume of my hiking food, but a two-days supply + cooking gear fits easily into a US sustainment pouch, which has 2,5l, I think. My standard setup is having the sleeping bag(s) and the tarp in the main compartement of the pack, clothes in two of the MRE-sized pouches on the outside, and food in sustainment pouches on the sides. Then the sleeping mat on top or under the flap, tent pegs and ropes in mag pouches, and the other stuff (toilet paper, folding shovel, light, FAK etc) spread out over whatever pouches I have free.