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>>2826228 (OP)Fresh bread yay
>>2826178I looked more in to the bug launcher and medium fast seems faster than id want for overgrown creeks. I'm going to insist that its worth your while to get a new setup for it and im going to suggest the cabrlas cgr. Its super slow action, and ive used mine to harass creek chubs in a drainage ditch I could step over while I was on lunch breaks. The only way to/from was game trails through the woods.
>>2826177If the fish are hooked that badly its often better to cut your line than try to wrestle the hook out. Barbless helps though.
>>2826234>>2826178Wanted to mention that if you insist back that you get a 5 weight that there is actually a 5 weight cgr (or was it 6? Regardless your 5 weight line will load it fine because of the slow action.
These little shits love stealing worms away from the bass.
>>2826245I'm trying to thin them out for you.
>>2826228 (OP)hmm tonight I will go fishing
>>2826255Nice! Great job anon. Are you in a bounty state? It's highly encouraged not to throw them back here in norcal. But because they're native, there won't ever be an actual eradication effort made.
>>2826255I catch enough of them as it is, I just never bring a bucket with me when I'm catching them or I could be making decent cash.
>>2826234>>2826235I was looking at the CGR too, but didn't know there were two variants. I wrote it off because I was looking at the non-White River version because it had some bad reviews. Don't know what the difference is, they look the same.
The 4wt is 6'6" so that might be perfect. I can just overline with my 5wt reel and be okay. I'll have to think on it.
>>2826266Looks like a great white to me.
What is the difference between different size baitcasting reels? What should be used for what? Is there a reason why I would want a 150 over a 200 or vice versa? Do I need a 300 but wouldn't use it for anything else?
>>2826270I'm also debating Victory vs Bass X. I like the Victory handle better, but it's a lot more money. Then again, it's got the robust American warranty.
>>2826268I would caution you against a 6'6" fly rod. They are very small, and I would advise against over lining it, based on my experience casting a rod this size. A shorter rod will be less accurate, and there are virtually no times in which you will need to use a rod that short. As long as you aren't fishing tenkara, you can use 10 ft rods in heavy cover. I have done it before. But when you get out in the open, that 6'6" will not be able to justify it's performance.
>>2826271If you have the money to get a Victory, do so, I will never hesitate to recommend a Victory even if a person might be looking at even more expensive rods, but while the BassX rods are good, I just don't know if they're actually better than a similar priced Daiwa or Shimano.
>>2826270Largely it's about spool capacity. Some models will also gain some drag capacity and retrieve speed as you size up, so you'll have to look at the specs for the specific model you're looking at. Bigger spool means bigger frame means heavier and clunkier to hold, so generally I say pick the smallest with the appropriate retrieve speed, capacity, and drag.
>>2826268>Don't know what the difference is, they look the same.They are the same as best as i recall. I dont know how well itll handle over lining theyre really soft .
>>2826272I could throw #4 wooly buggers 60 feet of a 6'6" 2 weight and i could do it accurately too. Besides his 9 foot 5 weight will be the rod hes grabbing in open environments.
>>2826263Thanks, yes I'm up here in Washington. It's fun but hard to actually hammer them successfully every day. Like sometimes I'll get 30, sometimes I'll get 4 in the same spot. Need some sort of secret bait.
>>2826267What do you usually get them on? Spinners?
>>2826307I get a ton of them every time I go out without a bucket or even a bag handy, then I go out to the same place in the same conditions with the same gear planning to catch a few and turn them in and I catch 0. Every single time.
Shit was easy back in the 90s, but I also had a boat back then. Catching a haul of squawfish from the bank is a pain honestly.
>>2826308Forgot to respond to this along with
>>2826315Drifting various things. Never caught one on a spinner, but letting any bait drift under a bobber ends up catching me some. They love worms from what I can tell. Location is really the majority of it, they're really hungry little guys every time I find them it's all that's biting and doesn't really matter what I throw out I guess.
>>2826270spool capacity and overall dimensions of the spool in many cases. the size of the frames and the gear also increases. everything correlates not only to the game you will be targeting with the size, but also the lure weight range it can effectively throw. every company is different, but 200+, especially 300+ is meant for heavy applications. meant for thicker diameter line and more of it, as well as throwing heavier lures. if you buy a 300 reel and intend to throw normal bass lures, you won't be very happy. same as if you buy a 80 size and then try to throw 2oz swimbaits for musky.
>>2826266its actually a darude
Triumph 4 piece lights are in stock, or at least were a few days ago.
>>2826316Yeah I get them in the little river on spinners but on the big water where they pay you I mostly fish liver. Sturgeon love worms so I get a lot of bycatch using those.
>>2826319What pound line would be the end for a 150/200 and the beginning for a 300?
>>2826373I have yet to catch a sturgeon while going for pike minnow, that would be a fun accident.
All I've caught in 4 trips now is these fuckers.
>>2826228 (OP)where the fuck does this motherfucker find so many trashy bitches? is there a factory of tatted washed up whores holding a fish somewhere? All these years and I have yet to see a normal looking woman just fishing. At this point I'm just battled how OP manages to find some much trash so consistently
Considering getting into fishing and wondering what the thoughts on fishing licenses are around here. It's 15 bucks for one day and 70 for a year, so considering just getting the year pass. I should buy the license, right? Seems like the civilized thing to do.
>>2826550The fine is far worse than the license fee, if you get caught. I've bought a license almost every year for the last 35 years, every year I fished. Usually annual, but a handful of X-day passes when I was on vacation or out of country.
>>2826530A major figure in the fly community, Kelly Galloup, has the same feelings as you and I. Yes, there is a fish whore factory. On Facebook, which is one of the places, boomers, and those trying to grab their attention, post pictures of these boat wenches constantly. The reason why they look so similarly generic, as if you asked AI to generate some trashy whores for you, is that they are all the kind of woman who want to be seen but have nothing going for them, hence the plastic surgery. They are soulless. They have no interests. Thus, they do only what is popular or what they perceive to be high status. Of course, for this class of bitches, high status does not mean escorting a distinguished gentlemen to the auction at Sotheby's but tagging along with Jimmy while he's at the storage locker auction.
>>2826556Thank you, anon, ill get the pass. Then I can fish without worrying about the fishing jannies
>>2826234NTA but today I actually caught a fish, a 2lb pike, and if it wasn't for barbless hooks i'd never have gotten that rapala out of his mouth. but because I pinched all the barbs, i could slide it further in and twist it and it slid out of the flesh easily. he went back a lil sore but not bleeding or torn up.
>>2826550Where do you live where itโs $70 a year? We pay $20 a year here. Plus $10 a stamp for trout or salmon.
>>2826592NTA... It's $62.90 for a resident fishing license in California. An additional 19.70 for a second rod stamp. And around $10 each for steelhead, salmon and sturgeon report cards.
>>2826593That is insane. Glad I'm never going to California.
>>2826593Oh my condolences
>>2826272It seems to be a subject of debate. Some people say they use their 10ft rods on tiny creeks, other's love their short rods. I'll try a short rod, though. Worst that happens is it collects dust.
>>2826593>residentThat's fucked up holy shit. I live in a tristate area and buy two licenses and thought it was insane to pay $50 for a NON-resident license.
You're getting hosed.
>second rod stampI had to google that because I couldn't believe it meant LITERALLY a second rod stamp. What a shithole.
How fun is magnet fishing?
Caught from my canoe. Got 9 walleye 2 keepers.
>live in the city
>only decent fishing is on private land or an hour + drive
>got caught trespassing today
now what do i do after work
>>2826616Not. I did it in the context of an archeological dig. I only found it fun because of what it could mean for the research. If it was only about what Bubba through into the slough, it would be boring. Imagine reading some medical records for a guy who was found to have AIDS. It'd be boring, but if those were Biden's records and if the HIV came from Obama, that'd be interesting. The context is key.
>>2826701Drive the hour. Go on days off. Dummy
>>2826701https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDD0L4Zzk6Q
>>2826592Norway. After the service fee it was 75 USD.
Alright that's it, 4 straight days of catching nothing but these little shits I just want to touch another species at this point.
norod here, is it true fish from rivers taste like mud?
bass and perch from a local lake
is this a Rapala lure or art type thing to hang on the wall?
I saw it in Mexico
some pics from a shore fishing tournament in Puerto Vallarta Mexico
>>2826775No.
If anything rivers should be a bit cleaner with moving water. Still water in ponds gets gross.
Also I have a vote for coolest city seal
>>2826849https://www.rapala.com/us_en/rapala-29-giant-lure
Does anyone have any tips on catching long nose gar? Iโm in the southern US. My bud hooked two and got them up to the boat on an artificial single hook minnow. But they cut the line when they saw us and tried to kick away. They donโt seem to put up much of a fight until they realize they are about to get pulled out of the water. I donโt even know how to get them on the boat with my bass net that has like a 1.5 foot width. The gar were like 3 feet long and probably 12 lbs
>>2826899use a thick mono leader that they can't easily break off. the way they usually react to lures is they slowly go up to it for investigation, then gently grab it most of the time. that's why most people say not to set the hook right away. they will move it towards the back of their mouth after swimming away with it(at least real bait). that's when people set the hook because it's no longer in the boney part of the mouth.then again, that probably leads to a lot of swallowing which is not good. I've found that baits with multiple small hooks works well, whether that be 2 or 3 small trebles or singles. the main thing is that the small light wire hooks penetrate the boney mouth with much less force. I just give the rod a light tug after they grab it. lures like small topwaters. walking baits, poppers, etc. you have to be patient with them and slow it down though. a lot of times they won't chase a lure that is too fast. if you just do a little action to get their attention, then you let it sit for them to come up to, they usually just grab it when it's sitting there. they don't spook from lures easily, so you can just keep on casting it out near them. you're right though, they don't fight that hard until they get close to the bank and figure out what's going on, but a heavy leader should hold up. they do throw the lure at about a 50% clip though, just the nature of the boney mouth. doing the boomer rope lure trick is not good because they starve to death if you can't get it out, plus that's cheating.
>>2826772Stop using worms. Start using jerk baits or crank bait or soft plastic flukes. White silver, sky blue flukes on a 1/8thoz jighead or 1/16th oz jighad where it is shallow. If you are casting a jerkbait around only a predator should hit it.
>>2826593Sink that trash into the ocean.
>>2826718Every day we stray further from god.
>>2826950>he doesnt know that pikeminnows and fall fish are predators
How much time, monetary expense, car trips to different spots, and other investments dumped into starting out without getting even a SINGLE bite should I endure before I consider myself a failure starting out and possibly angler suicide as well.
I'm literally on like my 15th skunk in a row with 3-4 hour averages each trip. I've tried everything. Looked up all the popular rigs, learned a different knots tying those rigs, watched different YouTube videos on how to fish those rigs, looked into bass and catfish seasonal behavior, tried local popular spots at different times of day, bought 4 different rod setups, tried basically every type of bass lure, tried catfish dough baits/chicken liver/shrimp/worms etc.
I woke up at 3:30AM to get to a spot at 5AM for sunrise and then sat there with 3 catfish rod setups for 4 hours and then watched some old man that looked like one of those elderly Wal-Mart greeters come in and get more action than I have in 4 months in less than 80 minutes using the exact same rigging.
Suicide may be my only option at this point.
>>2826981Just catch some bluegill or something
>>2826981You clearly are doing something terribly wrong. I suggest that you find a pond known to have fish in it. Cast out a 1/16 jig with 1/3 to 1/2 of a nightcrawler. Bounce the jig on the bottom. You will catch fish. Bounce. Pause for a few seconds. Bounce. Pause. Bounce bounce
Pause. Do not go too fast.
>>2826772>Nothing but pikeminnow for days>Grab a bucket and some bait and go out planning to spend a few hours catching them to turn them in the next morning>Catch 13 bluegill, 3 bass, 2 pumpkinseed perch and 1 3 inch pikeminnowWell fuck me I guess?
>>2826981If all else fails and I'm getting skunked for days I buy a pack of 30 redworms from walmart for $3, a small hook (Aberdeen/crappie hooks or size 4-10 baitkeepers) and little bobber. Catching sunfish and little bass is better than just catching weeds.
>I woke up at 3:30AM to get to a spot at 5AM for sunrise and then sat there with 3 catfish rod setups for 4 hours and then watched some old man that looked like one of those elderly Wal-Mart greeters come in and get more action than I have in 4 months in less than 80 minutes using the exact same rigging. Location. Your bait may not have been in the spot you thought it was or maybe you picked the wrong spot.
>>2826981What exactly are you fishing for?
>>2826228 (OP)Fishing Florida Water new pb large mouth bass!
Just got my first baitcaster. Put a Johnny Morris Carbonlite Tech on a Berkeley Lighting, 7' MH with 30lb braid. What do y'all think?
>>2827099Could have absolutely done worse, have fun with it anon
finally going back out on the river hopefully next weekend after all the horrible rains we've been having. Looking forward to it but I'm debating what I'm actually going to try and fish for. I have to respool my normal bass and trout rod so I'm planning on going with a heavier line. I keep a decent catfish and carp rig with me. I'm thinking I might bring both so I can fish for smallies and trout during the peak hours and when it slows down switch over to my catfish rod and stink baits.
getting kind of turned off to freshwater fishing because i keep hearing people talk about how polluted every single body of water I fish is. and I strongly prefer taking home a few fish than doing catch and release only
>>2827111to be fair, most places people saltwater fish are literal sewage exits to the sea also, they just don't care because the ocean volume somewhat dilutes it in their mind.
>>2827099>30lb braid on that rodI bought the same rod and put 10lb braid on and it casts like a dream.
>>2827151You dont get issues with the line digging in?
>>2827154I've only been using it a week but it hasn't had any issues so far. But I personally use the lightest line I can get away with on everything so maybe I'm biased.
>>2827156Im biased the other way lmao im always running relatively heavy gear. Last time i used 8 pound test was because i couldnt fit 10 pound test through the eye of the hook i wanted to use.
>>28271628# maxima chameleon line was my heaviest line until recently.
I'm only using the 10# braid because I'm fishing really heavy vegetation and I needed something I could rip through it.
>>2827163"Bring your light setup"
I rock up with 15lb braid and a 12 pound mono leader, you rock up with like 4lb mono lol
>>2827165I ran 4# mono to 2# leader all last fall/winter so you're not wrong. 2# leader and barbless size 10 hooks I lost a lot of big trout last year, damn shame.
Any Australians here?
I live in Melbourne and I want to start fishing but idk what I can catch without a boat
>>2826849Big fuckin lure for big fuckin fish, anon.
>>2826981I caught a fish in a bit over 4 years. Getting skunked sucks, but you can see some cool shit if you look around a little.
>>2827087The dinkiest dink.
>>2827105You should not use the same setup for trout and bass. You need to fish as light as you can for trout. This is true for all fish but especially trout. No more than 6 lb. Bass is generally 8+ lb. Lighter line also casta better, so keep that in mind.
>>2826228 (OP)Caught a 5+lb carp while fishing for catfish bait with my ultralight
>>2827326They're also extreme overrated fighters. They don't do anything different than a similarly sized channel cat. I think that was just Yourapeein cope over having the worst freshwater fishing.
Anyone here ever use a ned rig?
Good day of fishin' with the misses. Caught a PB Noturus and a few lifer Rhinogobius. Yee yee!
>>2827347I use them for walleyes. They tend to catch everything in the area that can fit the hook in its mouth.
>>2827347>>2827389I caught a channel cat earlier with one.
But no fucking bass I haven't caught a non-dink bass in over a year at this point
I've got 2 medium Ugly Stiks and an ultra-light (quality rod). I want to upgrade with bass in mind. I've got baitcasters on my mind, but if I were to get a new spinning rod, should it be medium or medium-light? What advantages does a ML have?
Caught 2 decent blue cats last night before I ran out of bait
>>2827326>>2827327nice boy, also caught one the last time on my usual spot
I finally christened the gear I got for my birthday and I caught my new PB smallmouth, also lost one around the same size because my snell knot failed right as I was netting it.
Daiwa Regal LT 2500
6'6 Medium lightning rod
10lb J-braid in island blue for aesthetics
Gotta admit, every part of that fight felt great all these components are wonderful.
>>2827326>>2827327They get big.
What did you catch it on? I've been throwing earth worms and red worms at some carp while they're feeding and they have no interest what so ever. I've sat there and brushed the worm against its face until it finally noticed and ran away. I just want to catch at least one of the fuckers on hook and line so I can say I've done it, and they just keep taunting me.
>>2827347>>2827391One of these? They're pretty good but I couldn't stop catching bass so I switched to less effective bait.
>>2827500Try a cherry on a circle hook
>>2827500A little tungsten ice fishing jig and a Powerbait Honey Worm. I caught it fishing for bluegill. I frequently catch channel cats that size doing that too so I have a good comparison for how they fight on real light tackle.
>>2826911Thanks a lot anon. Thatโs kind of what I have been hearing except some are recommending a small gauge wire leader but I think they were going for bigger gar. I like the science of luring them. Thatโs more interesting than throwing out a zoom worm for bass all day.
>>2827498That's a great setup, except for the blue braid. Retards come into my store asking what kind of rod and reel would match blue braid. It's a very womanly thing to do.
>Does this dress make me look fat?>Do these shoes match my hair?I hope you didn't try hard to seek out that blue line.
>>2827539>I hope you didn't try hard to seek out that blue line.It was the only braid they had in 10lb. It looks nice though, I use a leader anyways so the color of the braid doesn't matter.
>>2827503Hahaha, hell yeah. I'm about to start trying some out.
>>2827545Good man. Your entire setup is exactly what I would recommend to someone who is either getting into fishing or wants to keep things cheap.
>>2827498>>2827545Were you fishing that nose hooked weightless or running a drop shot?
I have a bag of those soft plastics that ive literally just never used for no real reason. But i thought they looked smallmouth-y
Also snells are fun and they make my autism happy too. What was your leader? I imagine somewhat light if youre fishing it on 10lb braid.
Beginner skunk anon from like a day or two ago. Still no fish, Trip Number 14 in a row. 6AM to 12AM session.
Went out again to the Bayou levee. Fished Texas Rigs off the banks/plant cover while having 2 Santee Rigged Catfish (Cut bait on one and chicken liver on the other) setups in rod holders. Used Egg Loop knot to secure the baits.
Got nothing except pulling in a turtle off the cut bait (pic related) that I probably killed just trying to unhook the circle hook from it, which I tried from as distantly as possible with my pliers. (Guided him back into the water, mouth injured after he basically took the hook. I was too pathetic of a failure to manage to get it out ).
Tried my Ultralight setup for around 30 minutes hoping for a pity Bluegill at the end, nothing.
Next session will be a morning Kayak session at the landing nearby, which as usual will result in nothing despite me mirroring an exact video of someone else fishing the location.
Considering angler suicide still.
>>2827621>Considering angler suicide still.Get some really heavy line. Tie it to a circle hook. Swallow circle hook. Tie line to vehicle at gas station. Wait for death. Hopefully, it sets the hook and pulls you before it breaks.
I'm going to a cousin's wedding in Denver in August. I live in Iowa. I'm thinking of driving there and staying a few days extra to fish. I have qualms about fishing in Colorado because of how overrun it seems to be. In Iowa, if there is a car parked on a section of trout stream, you go some place else. I have rarely encountered fellow anglers on the water. I'm looking for that kind of experience without having to drive way out of my way. I'm aware that Nebraska has trout streams, but Nebraska seems to have a lot of fees. Could someone with knowledge of the area give me some pointers? I've never car camped before, but that's something I'd like to do.
>>2827603Nose nooked and weightless in some current, found one rigged that way in a tree and caught a bass on it first cast, so now I buy them, yum hellgramites are great, I use copper creek and natural.
I was using my 6lb to 4lb combo for the one I lost, and 8lb maxima chameleon leader on the one in picture.
>>2827647Tbh not surprised you lost the first one fudhing that light, 10lb braid to 8lb mono was my ultralight setup that i promptly ditched for a slightky heavier rod with 15lb braid and usually 10 or 12 pound mono leader. Regardless ive been meaning to fish them for a while. I think im going to just put them with my senkos and flukes since those all run on the same rig.
14 pound mono with a loop knot is about as strong as 8 with a palomar, moves more freely, and has more abrasion resistance before the line starts to weaken below knot strength.
Those critiques aside thats an awesome fish and im sorry you lost the other one.
Heres a dink creek smallie on a 2 inch berkley ripple shad, 1/16 oz jig head, 12lb leader, and 15lb braid.
Launching a boat seems like a MASSIVE pain, especially if there's a lot of people and made even worse if you are by yourself. Can anyone justify this to me? I'd like to one day get a boat (beyond a kayak), but this is a major deterrent.
Does anyone else say "feesh" every time they see a fish jump out of the water?
>>2827654The biggest hassle about boat launches is the trailer maneuvering. If you canโt back a trailer, youโre going to have a hard day.
Itโs not hard to tie your boat up after launching and good boat trailers are self centering on the rollers, so if you canโt get your trailer in straight and you donโt drive it too far into the lake or leave it too far out of the lake, itโs all piss easy from there.
If you wanna go full wizard mode, buy an autopilot equipped trolling motor with a remote and then you can dump your boat in, tell it to go fuck off off shore and wait for you, park your truck, and then have the boat drive to the dock and pick you up. This capability costs about $800 for the smallest and cheapest new trolling motors that will let you do this, and even though itโs 10 year old technology, it still makes people stare at you when you do it.
I have autopilot on my 18 foot v-hull but donโt have it on the 14 foot skiff, so I still launch both ways.
>>2827654launching the boat itself is easy and quick once you get used to it. if you live somewhere that has lots of boat ramp traffic, that does such though, mostly because you have to wait in line, maneuver around people parked in the wrong spots, and feel pressured to be fast so you don't hold people up... but launching the boat is the easy part, way easier than it seems to those who ave never done it. the boat ramps aren't as bad if you put in early in the morning and leave by lunch time, that's when all the recreational boaters come out in the warmer months. plus the hardcore fisherman that are at the ramp early know how to get in and out fast so they don't take up space or time. having said that, I only really kayak now, used to have a boat. I prefer to be able to launch anywhere, that keeps me away from boat ramp traffic. plus I just like the feeling more, think motorcycle vs car. plus, it's light exercise without really feeling like a chore.
>>2827660short trailers are way harder. backing up a 10ft jon boat or a jetski is way more touchy than a long trailer, just due to wheelbase.
I swear, there's been more fucking channel cats hanging around the dock than there are bluegill
>>2827621is OK anon there is no point of killing yourself over a fish you can probably buy for 3 dollars.
use the Carolina rig and try corn next time.
Doing a bit of surf fishing in Thailand, and Taiwan soon. Not sure which species I can target in Thailand, but Iโll be in Taiwan during striper season
Which of these lures would work best in either application?
Other gear: 11โ medium heavy rod / stradic 4000 reel
>>2827785>stradic 4000goated
took my sister out fishing for the first time
we both caught a turtle on our lines (pretty sure it was the same turtle twice the big retard) and i eventually caught a bullhead which went on the grill for the 4th
glad i caught something with her there so she didnt walk away from the experience thinking fishing was boring and pointless
the best part of my day was when my baitcaster rod fucked itself after 1 cast and i couldnt use it for the rest of the day. GOD i love baitcasters!!!!!!
my plan for the next time is getting a spring feeder with some bait in it, down a braided or whatever it's called line and a hook with corn for a carp down where lilies are at the pond, hopefully a good carp comes my way
a lil ploลกฤiฤ aka bream
>>2827815>the best part of my day was when my baitcaster rod fucked itself after 1 cast and i couldnt use it for the rest of the day. GOD i love baitcasters!!!!!!99% chance that the problem wasn't with the rod or reel but with you. It isn't that hard to remove a backlash either.
>>2827797Okuma Makaira MK-20000S
>>2827867that looks very nice. bit pricey.
Hey so when you bonk a fish on the head should it still be thrashing around/breathing at all? Cuz I gave my fish 5 good whacks with a hammer before bleeding it and it still trashed semi often especially when I was cutting its gills. Made me feel pretty shitty. It was thrashing a little as I gutted it as well
>>2827880You likely won't find it anywhere but eBay. It's a nice quality reel I think surpasses the meme van staal.
I'm looking to use my old surf gear that has been collecting dust for the past 7 years, and do some shopping tomorrow. I have a 10ft Penn Battle II with a 8000 reel and ideally want to use it for casting at local parks and beaches anywhere from Quincy Harbor to Narragannsett, so pretty mild surf conditions. Looking for some lures that might work for 1-2 hour breaks in the middle of the day type stuff, no live baits or breaking out the waders or anything like that. Targeting mostly stripers and blues, but really anything else is fine too.
I mostly used this setup for soaking chunk mackerel and casting shads and spoons but I mostly just caught stripers soaking bait. I don't know if this setup is too beefy since I was using it on the Atlantic side of Cape Cod, but I want to try to avoid buying anything new if possible unless I'm going to look like a total idiot.
>>2827959>8000you're going to get tired of casting anything that isn't bait and wait
do y'all change your technique or rig if fishing from a a high point? did cliff fishing yesterday and it felt much more difficult keeping my jigheads near the bottom
>>2827884Just give them one good bonk on the top of the skull like an inch behind the eyes. They should shiver a bit and stop thrashing immediately if you got em right. I'd recommend a small bat instead of a hammer for more surface area on the blunt force.
Managed to get a huge carp to bite a red worm by twitching it under a bobber just right I guess (never got it to work again) but lost him just at arms reach.
Any tips on getting carp to bite more? I've found a pretty decent spot where they seem active in the mornings but they're finicky. Water levels are low and most fish are in inaccessible areas for bank fishers right now but the carp are still coming up shallow in some spots I like to fish.
>>2828034Corn on the bottom
i need help
i bought hooks for carp fishing to try fishing with a feeder but no with boilies, so i'll stick the corn on the hook
now i bought coated braid hook line to add to the swivel and before the feeder + reel line connects with it, the problem is that the hook hole is too small for a palomar knot which was what i wanted, will i be ok with a clinch knot? i wont fish for some 30kg carps, but around 10kg would be fine
>>2828039for example this is how i wanna build it, with a spring feeder, before the feeder i'll add rubber bead
>>2828041also forgot a weight after the feeder and a stopper
Yee yee yee yee yee!!! Yee yee yee!! Ohh yes
>>2828038What can I use that would also catch some channel cats? They're in the same spot, saw them swimming together.
>>2828041Should work fine. Clinch knot is like 70% line strength. Only thing that could break you off is snags but that would be a concern regardless.
>>2828054I caught one fish out kayaking today. I thought I caught an absolute dink. You take the cake.
>>2828034Got a carp yesterday myself
>>2828054Pretty little darter, nice :)
i was gifted an ultralite bass pro spinning rod. what are some solid reels to pair it with under $100? i know the bare minimum about gear but will be fishing lakes and rivers with panfish, walleye, bass, and larger fish that i'd obviously need a different rod and reel for.
>>2828075see if you can get a shimano stradic 2000 on ebay for under 100. maybe a sedona for cheaper? i'm a shimano fan boy so that's all i'm suggesting.
>>2828076thanks for the suggestions. would the nasci 2500hg be about as good? they're a little cheaper than any sedona 2000 flavour where i am.
>>2828077i've never used one but i bought my dad one years ago and he liked it. definitely can't go wrong.
>>2828060Channel cats will eat corn but id rather use shad or chicken liver for them. I cant think of any great baits to target both on one bait. Id personally just try to fish two rods, one for carp and one for cats.
>>2828054Gorgeous little fish m8
>>2828075Just get something from diawa amd youll be set
>>2828075I use a Pflueger President 20 and it's been great. I do a lot of creek fishing and it holds up to some of the abuse that my other reels couldn't handle.
Are glowing lures a meme?
>>2828125I genuinely dont know but ive caught cool fish on them and also been skunked fishing them and ive got fish at night with non glowing lures too so...
>tl;dr maybe
going salt water shore fishing tomorrow wish me luck boys
caught two halibut today boys. 2.8 inch keitechs were killing it, lost 3 others from them getting bit off the dropshot--might need a bigger hook next time
>>2828137whereabout?
>>2828073nice what a beauty! how much did he weight?
>>2826228 (OP)My baby right there
>>282815218-20 lbs I'd say
>>2828169Yeah right
This was a 28 inch Snook and wasn't no 18 lbs lmao and that carp was likely about 10lb maybe 15lb
Corn on the bottom worked thanks skid. 11lbs even. Caught with a 6lb leader attached to my 8lb leader because I didn't want to do a new Alberto knot.
>>2828201Yeah 15 maybe. I dunno, I'm not a good judge of exact weight. Just starting out
>>2828201i see two good loking big boys on the image
>>2828201>wasn't no 18 lbsWe speak English on this board, not redneck
>>2828209I have to agree with anon, wasn't no 18lbs.
>>2828209Yeah nah fuck off pom
>>2828210Doesn't matter. Say "that wasn't 18 pounds." Not "naaaaah boss hog, that there weren't no 18 lbs!" Fucking disgusting language
>>2828214Weird seethe, but okay.
>>2828214>>2828217>>2828222Brugly stop spamming this, no one cares
>>2828223???? take your meds
>>2828235>he doesnt know Brugly
>>2828149caught a silly number of catfish, a sheephead and a mangrove snapper! tville haulover canal
>>2828206>>2828207>>2828209Brugly claim down all you got is a picture of a fish.
I got a picture of me and could say I look like a weigh as much as a bus but without proof of from the scale I can't proof it can I Brugly so we going based on being judgemental.
I caught a bunch of bluegill this weekend and it was fun. I want to catch trout though.
I'm using a weighted bobber, 6# mono line, treble hooks and nightcrawlers for the most part. Sometimes I swap out the worm for powerbait or a plastic worm lure with garlic scent.
I've never caught a trout with that setup. If I walk along shallow shores I'm reeling in bluegill like crazy. Is it where I'm casting or the line setup that's not working for trout?
>>2828283Your not gonna catch trout in water that has bluegill in it. I could be wrong though mainly because I fish in florida so when I hear trout I think saltwater trout.
>>2828287PNW here, I have caught trout, bluegill, (3-5 other kinds of sunfish), perch, three kinds of bass and a pikeminnow all in the same 10 square foot spot I like to cast.
>>2828283Worm under a bobber will be snatched by bluegill way before a trout ever gets it, unless you're very lucky. You could catch one on it, but you'll catch a ton of bluegill before you do.
Powerbait (Dough, nuggets) floats, and under a bobber it probably isn't presenting well, likely floating up too high. On the other hand, a 3 way swivel used to bottom fish with powerbait is a great way to get trout, and bluegill don't like it as much as live bait worms. Though power bait works a lot better on stocked trout than wild.
I also have had zero luck floating plastic worms so I have no advice about that.
>>2828287Pretty much everywhere I fish is stocked with trout. Idk how deep they go though I'm probably fishing too shallow.
>>2828289>Worm under a bobber will be snatched by bluegill way before a trout ever getsThat explains it. I thought by casting deeper I'd hit more trout but there's bluegill out there too and they're getting it first.
>3 way swivel used to bottom fish with powerbaitI'll have to try this next time. I assume the concept is weight on one swivel sinks it to the bottom, powerbait rises with the hook and your last swivel is for the main line? That means no bobber and you're relying purely on watching the rod tip bounce?
>>2828295If you're setting the rod down you're watching your rod tip or line, if you're holding it you'll feel the bites with 6# line. They will hit pretty hard usually. I don't really like setting my rod down to bottom fish, I end up just feeding trout all day if I do that.
>>2828295Trout are cold water fish. If it's warm, fish deep. If it's hot, they're probably not eating.
Any squid fisherman here?
What tips can you lend for squid fishing from shore? Best lures? Times? Tide position? One lure or double?
First, there was a 40% chance of rain at 3. Then, there was no rain. Then, there was a massive storm at 1. The streets could not drain. I was driving with max wiper settings. I was planning on kayaking around that time.
I'm slower than a short bus, so I took a while to get out. I went kayaking at the beginning of a reservoir. This was my first time kayaking on big water. The current was ripping. It was cool to see what was washed into the river, like bugs, wood, and plant matter. I kayaked around a bunch, including up a creek. That was a lot of fun. I had a few technical mishaps but nothing major. No fish today. Now, I want to get into float trips.
How do you piss out of a kayak?
I'd like to create a redneck depth finder with a spool and a line counter or colored line. Any ideas on what cheap equipment I could use?
I want to get into saltwater fishing from shore, specifically for Flounder and Mackerel. I already have the rod and reel, but I was looking for any suggestions as to tackle and bait, or just any tips in general.
Environment wise, I live in the island portion of puc related, east coast.
Thanks
>>2828386Bucktails and diamond jigs should be good for flounder and mackerel respectively but cknsider buying from and talking to your local tackle shop they should have decent intel
>>2826701Get a kayak. Launch from public boat ramp. Go anywhere you want to go. They don't own the water, anon. You can even fish under their docks.
I got a bait caster and I need help. I watched some videos on YouTube. The bait falls very slow, when it hits the ground or water no backlashes. Im getting midair backlashes. I have a couple when I donโt catch it before it hits the water but 90% just bombs out mid cast. I am trying to get out of the habit of flicking my ride at the end of the cast like I did with my spinning setup. Iโve used a 3/8 ewg with a swim bait, spinner baits 1/4oz, 7/8 glide baits, square bill think itโs 1/3oz, 5/8 jerk bait. Iโve had the same mid air issue over the range. Iโm using an abu garicia vengeance combo, 12lb big game.
>>2828511Try less power, a smoother power application, and cinsider braid.
>>2828511Try setting your brakes higher
>>2828511first off, make sure your lure isn't falling TOO slowly. it can be just as bad as falling too quickly if it's literally falling at a creep. that will force you to have to cast with more effort and it will essentially jerk on initial startup. just start with bakes high and doing gentle side/roll casts until you build up thumb memory for feathering the spool. I suggest using a lure that is at least 1/2oz. just dial your brakes back one clock each time you have no overruns. overhead casts will result in disaster when you're new if it accidentally goes straight towards the ground. but when you do start trying overhead casts, remember to release much earlier than you think you should based on spinning reels. you want an arc cast.
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I'm from the Great Lakes area and I'm moving to Madison County, Idaho which is East Idaho. Are there any good fishing spots around here that are known? Within the town I'm going to be staying in there's just a few park ponds
>>2828537For example I've heard Henry's Fork has some of the best trout in the nation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrys_Fork_(Snake_River_tributary)
Am I the only one who is worried that the legs on these spider baits would prevent the fish from actually being able to bite the hook? Same deal with the rats with long tails
>>2828533>>2828534>>2828535Thanks for the tips. Yes it is creeping down, never considered that was the cause. Figured a little tighter was better because mid cast it was back lashing. Iโm about 2 clicks off full brakes now. Iโve been aiming for around 1/2oz to practice or heavier. Gentle lobs have worked the best so far. Guess itโs more practice on given it a smooth motion. Iโm about 6-8 hours in over the past couple weeks. Braid comes when I stop blowing up the spool but so far so good at getting backlashes out.
>>2828542what are you fishing for? i mainly go for pike, and have some frogs that i never thought would work because they had large legs, but nope, those underwater crocodiles slam them just fine
>>2828556jerky casts will cause problems, that's why having the spool tension too tight can cause fluff up early/mid cast. at the end of the day, your aim is to have loose spool tension, though no side to side slop, because that gives you the easiest start up inertia and casting distance/smoothness. training your thumb is what takes the reps. it is easier to backlash with looser spool tension, but the flipside is that you're also able to apply more thumb pressure throughout the cast without slowing down the spool as much. with tight spool tension it already wants to slow down with even the slightest pressure. another way you can tell if your spool tension needs to be loosened is if your lure goes to the left whenc asting instead of straight where you're aiming. that's from the slow inertia at startup. definitely not advising against having some spool tension as a beginner, but you have to realize when you're at the point in the learning process where it actually starts to harm your progress. most people are afraid to loosen it bit by bit, they just focus entirely on the brakes.
>>2828538Iโve fished it. The river is full of huge ass trout, but they are highly pressured basically everywhere itโs legal to fish (Big Springs and a chunk is not legal to fish) and they are difficult to entice to strike.
Seriously, thereโs nothing like seeing 25+ inch cutties stacked like cordwood in a bend and having them barely glance at your fly. It took me a week to catch a single cutthroat.
>>2828556Remember smooth is more important than fast. You want to accelerate smoothly until the very moment your thumb lets off. Your ultimate goal is for the spool to dump line at the same rate that your lure is flying, favoring slightly dragging because a backlash happens when your spool spins faster than your lure is flying. Make sure you play with your centrifugal or magnetic brakes, too.
And dont forget you can feather the spool, too, just barely touch thw spool for not even a moment can do a lot for slowing the spool and preventing a backlash. When i was first starting i would do it very often just before mid cast as backlash insuranceand just live with losing a little casting distance over it
>finally found a good fishing spot where I consistently get hooked up within 30 minutes to an hour of making my first cast
feels fucking good man. I've only caught pike so far but I'm hoping I can get a walleye at some point.
>>2828448i want to get my first fishing kayak, for stocked trout ponds at first but something that i can move on to inshore saltwater fishing later
pedal powered
any advice?
>>2828604not that anon but
> liquidlogic manta ray propel 12pros: light, affordable, quick and efficient through the water
cons: not much deck space, not a big barge if that's what you want, it's one of the few minimalist pedal yaks
either that or if you want a big yak go full hobie pro angler 14
>>2828542I had hookups on massive frogs I thought I wouldn't get hookups on, even the largest spider I've seen is pretty small in comparison, they can get it in their mouths.
>>2828604That's not a thing. If it's a pond, just fish from shore. Kayaks are expensive, especially sea fishing kayaks. Pedal drives, made for salt no less, are expensive too. Now, I imagine you might also want some electronics. More money.
how the fuck do i tie this coated steel wire to a swivel and then to spinner? i bought it because i couldn't find the already pre mdae steel wires with swivels for fish with teeth
>>2828633where i live some lake sized bodies of water are called ponds, with trout stocked that survive winters and get really big
i'm talking like ~60 acres surface area and 100 feet of water in some spots
you have better luck in the heat of summer from a vessel, it's hard to reach the fish from shore unless it's spring/fall and they come in closer as the water cools down
i have a job, i'm just looking for anyone with experience's input
i got to try an old town sportsman 120 pdl the other day, it was fine but it was just a short group outing, not fishing, so i didn't get a feel for the rail mounts, storage, etc. because i didn't need to use them
>>2828657forget im retarded, i forgot i need one of these shits
>>2828657>>2828681ok i found one of my pre-lines that had a swivel on it already ready, now how do i fish with a spinner? never caught fish like that before, was only fishing with worms, maize and boilies, do i just cast this over and over again and just reel in with a slight drag?
>>2828659there are lots of variables. which drive you like(old town, native, jackson, hobie.) what type of kayak you like. super stable floating dock, lightweight and fast, in between. all have pros and cons. deck layouts are different. you name it. with that said, there is really no reason to get a big barge unless you a)are a big guy, b)plan to load it down with hundreds of pounds of geat, or c) stand up and fish 75% of the time. personally, I like the design of the native drive the best since it's direct gear drive(less slop or stretchy belt feel), second only to hobie in terms of top speed, and just robust/simple. the slayer propel max 12.5 is the one that blends speed with stability, where the titan line is a big barge, and the manta ray propel 12(liquidlogic branded) is one of the few "throw n go" style rec/fishing kayaks. that manta ray is very efficient/fast, but i'ts more of a minimalist fishing kayak in terms of layout, though it does have in hull storage that you can access on land. all pedal drive kayaks aside from that liquidlogic manta are going to be 100+lbs when rigged, keep that in mind if it matters. a lot of people underestimate weight and then throw their back out trying to load/unload them anywhere but pristine banks and boat ramps. hull design is also extremely important when it comes to how they handle in chop and current.
>>2828694i know they are heavy and that's something i have to figure out regarding transportation
i do want the ability to do some inshore stuff in the future though, so i think the high weight is just the way it is if i'm looking at something 12 or 13 feet long
Caught this little nigga last week
>>2828696the longer the better when it comes to bigger water. the length helps with tracking, maintaining speed, and rolling with the chop. with that said, some wider kayaks actually perform worse in big swells because they don't "roll" with the waves as much, and kind of just get pushed around. at the end of the day you will never be able to test them all unfortunately. a lot of people do prefer the hobie drive system just because of the mechanical motion being pushes instead of actual pedal revolutions, someone who is used to riding a bike might be the opposite though. that doesn't really matter unless you're doing lots of miles though.hell, I do more miles than most people in a paddle kayak. I probably average several miles once a week over the span of 3-4 hours. some fishing thrown in there. the good thing about a kayak is just exploring also. places you could never otherwise get to easily, even banks on the far side of lakes and such. find lots of lures too..
>>2828689Pretty much. It will catch fish better the closer you get it to cover, but it will also be more likely to snag the closer you fish it to cover. Vary depth by varying speed, sweep an area with casts and then move, donโt just stand in one spot making the same cast over and over again (unless youโre pounding a school of fish).
>>2828702thanks, i hadn't considered the native kayaks much before
unfortunately there doesn't seem to be nearly as many of them around here on the secondhand market, but i will keep checking
>>2828689throw it out, give it a jerk(some spinners need a pump or the blade won't start spinning half of the time) then just retrieve. slower and it runs deeper, faster and it runs higher in the water column. they are good search baits, just cast them out at different angles from the bank to cover a wide area in search of fish. just about any fish will hit them if they're big enough.
>>2828697nice colors with the blood
>>2828717nta but i think that's just a cutthroat trout
it's not blood
>>2828697Very pretty fish! Cutbow? Where did you catch it?
>>2828697Very pretty! Where'd you catch it?
Right now (started writing this morning), I'm having diarrhea, just as I was before I began fishing last night. Big storm yesterday in the early evening. Just after it subsided, I went to fish with some coworkers. One ditched us. The guy who showed brought beer and watermelon, which was cool. I had my best ever topwater day. I've had virtually no luck with in the past, so this was incredible. 5 or more topwater largemouth. I do a lot of small stream fishing, so pic rel may be PB largemouth. I'd have to check my records.
Any good video guides for starting flyfishing in rivers? I've only fished for pan fish in ponds and lakes before
>>2828758Here are the ones I follow. They al have many good videos from beginner to advanced and mostly talk about fly fishing in rivers and streams. The Slide Inn one has a lot of good info on streamer fishing.
https://www.youtube.com/@venturesflyco
https://www.youtube.com/@Madriveroutfitters
https://www.youtube.com/@TheSlideinn
https://www.youtube.com/@redsflyshop
https://www.youtube.com/@orvis
>>2828741when topwater is on, you catch several fish. those are honestly the best days too. mornings and evenings in the summer on very humid days, especially after rain are the best it seems.
>>2828659>where i live some lake sized bodies of water are called pondOK. Are you that guy from Seattle? Your people are retarded for calling lakes ponds.
>>2828758The most important thing in fly fishing is how to read water. You can be a shit caster in a lot of situations, but if you don't know where the fish are, you're fucked. Watch videos on reading water. It's probably my weakest area. Niche casting strokes will come to you as the need arises. Feel free to do some weird shit. I went fly fishing with someone for the first time, and the shit he was doing without a second thought was stuff I tried early on but dismissed because I hadn't seen anyone else doing it. It worked; it was natural, so why not?
>>2828703>>2828705thank you, will try it today
Cane pole is the way to go on shit days.
>>2828774Ye olde string n stick
>>2828758Orvis guide to fly fishing is a great start and time on the water will get yoh the rest of the way
>>2828823>All the anons with $250 bass pro shop combos that can't catch a fish and yet the $5 walmart stick catches plenty
got my first baitcaster, gonna put 20lb braid and start chuckin some chatterbaits
>only one day to go fishing the entire week
>want to try new spot 1.5 hours away that looked promising from photos and decade old reports
>get there
>all overgrown with duckweed and hydrilla
>try throwing cutbait
>the cut bait is literally sitting on top of the fucking weeds
>manage to catch a baby pickerel right on the shore line with a lure
>get one gigantic bite on cutbait as the sun starts going down but no fish
>mosquitos get so bad I have to leave
Literally felt suicidal driving home. I've been feeling shitty recently and this didnt help.
Anyone tried Post Fly? Seems like it might be a neat way to find new fly patterns to try. I'm looking at their monthly fly tying box.
>>2828802An old faggot came into my store trying to buy a cane pole for his Dutch friend that was very transportable. I suggested tenkara but basically told him his gift idea wouldn't work and that his friend probably would want to fish because there's prejudice against fishing in the canals.
There are just some customers you hate to deal with.
>>2828864Never even heard of it. Getting a small amount of material to tie a few flies might be fun, if it's at the right price. Otherwise, you could watch trendy YouTubers to find new patterns.
>>2828878I'll also take any reviews, recommendations or warnings about any other fly fishing/tying subscription boxes as well. I know they're usually not worth it past the initial novelty. But sometimes that can be fun. I was just looking at the Smitty's boxes. It looks like you get a lot more materials in them than the Postfly boxes. The question is, what quality...
>>2828890>The question is, what quality...Replying to myself and for anyone else interested. After watching several reviews on the Smitty's, it looks like they send you recognizable name brand material if nothing else. I think I'll try this one. I'm going to get a combo, beginner and intermediate tying box. It's $35 and each should have enough hooks and materials for around 24 flies, so 48 flies in the combo box. It would be $25 if I only wanted beginner or intermediate. I'll give it a try and report back. Still interested in anyone else's experience.
I live in the Central FL and mostly do fishing in our saltwater rivers, like mosquitoe lagoon. I'm starting to do a little more fresh water fishing and think it might be worth picking up a medium power rod. All my rods are 7' and at least MH. I want something to make smaller fish a little more fun, with that said. I'm wondering if I should stick with the 7' trend or give a 6'6 a try.
>>2828899To add on, should I get a baitcaster? All my other 4 reels are spinning.
>>2828911>baitcasterthe pajeets of reels
>>2828919I think you mean spincast reels
>>2828569I had a chance to go out and fish. Loosening the spool was a big help. Still some back lashing but Iโll chock that up to user error. I think I only had one or two mid air back lashes. One was the cast barely touched a bush on the back swing.
>>2828825You dont even need to go to walmart you can sometimes jusf find rivercane growing anc use that.
>>2828843Id maybe go for 30lb braid but overall not a bad setup have fun
>>2828864Ive not done it but it looks interesting
>>2828894I hope it goes well
>>28288997 foot is my go-to length for rods in general but i dint think 6 inches will make or break your setup so just send it and pick one
>>2828955Nice brookie, but do you not gut fish before cooking them?
>>2828899might as well just get a medium light then
>>2828911no, not for that application. baitcasting rods in general are stiffer than their equivalent spinning rod.
my cousins husband is a doctor, my Dad and i recently took him on a canoe/fishing trip, he loved it, it was a fun time, and he is definitely "hooked" on fishing now, enough waffling, he was me using a hemostat, one from a tackle shop, and informed me that they have really nice medical grade ones, that they have to throw out after one use, even though they are metal and could easily be sterilized, safety i guess.
Anyway, he brought me some, and tell you what, ask your doctor next time if you can score some, miles better quality then the ones from the tackle shop.
godtier for hook removal, also some neat tricks with them for kline tying, im not a fly fisherman but i hear they use them a lot too.
>>2828956belly definitely looks slit
>>2828968How would this be for my first baitcaster? I guess it doesn't make sense getting a 6th spinning rod. All I need are a good baitcaster and a surf rod and I have a covering everything from inshore to offshore.
The rod in picture is 6'6 M with "Action: Reaction" it doesnt say anything between light and fast. This is just going to be my fun rod mostly for fucking off in oond, which also have tarpon in them around here so I dont want anything too light,
caught a 1 pounder bass on the new baitcaster, whacky worm did the trick. gonna do some salt water fishing later in the week hoping for some redfish!
anyone have experience with the more expensive soft plastics like no live bait needed?
>>2828980if you're going to use the baitcaster in saltwater, might as well just spend a little more and get something made for that like a shimano tranx since it has some sealing and is built pretty beefy. the daiwa tatulas are amazing reels, but that one is more of a standard freshwater reel with premium feel. as for that rod, the reason it doesn't list power is because it's a glass blend crankbait style rod. hence the "reaction" label. personally, I like those kinds of rods, they bend further down the blank and are a bit less "snappy" in terms of the response time to forces. very good for treble hook lures. tldr: that setup is a great bass fishing setup, but not really something I would use for saltwater
>>2828985alright, i've actually got a couple sitting in the box. i'll try em.
>>2828984I dont think I'd take this on the river then, I'd use this as my dedicated freshwater rod. I have a spare shamano 2500 I was planning on throwing on a travel rod but I could get a lighter action spinner too.
>>2828969I'm not sure if/when they stopped sterilizing, but after a recent urgent care visit to have a cyst drained, the doctor asked me if I wanted to keep the scissors and tweezers because they'd otherwise just be going in the trash. I took them and added them to my fly tying stuff. Tweezers were meh, but could be used for stacking dubbing. But the scissors are nice, sharp, fine tip and will make a great addition to my kit.
Any recommendations for 2wt fly line for a glass rod?
I was looking at Cortland 444 peach since there's only a handful of line that comes in 2wt without costing a small fortune. I would've done 333 but was told not to overline glass rods.
>>2828980>>2828984>>2828992Yeah for freshwater thats actually nicer than any of my baitcasting combos barring my musky stick. If youre gonna do saltwater consider a penn squall low profile.
>>2829013For my 2 weight i bought a cheap line from cabelas that was pretty nice esoecialky for the cost let me look a d see if i can find it.
>>2829013White river classic small stream fly line
pulled the trigger and picked up a 10ft rockaway sp. seems to be a trendy pick, but the lure weight of 1/2-3oz is perfect for anything the shore throws my way. keeper halibut tomorrow, I'm feeling it
I can never get the cunt-ass skin to not tear on the bbq. Tasted fine but FUCK.
>>2829048How do you prep.the grill rack before uou put the fish down?
>>2829052I'm very diligent about cleaning and oiling the grill, but I think next thing I'm going to try is getting one of those aerosol oil bottles so I can try to season it with multiple coats like a cast iron skillet. I may try to air dry the fish as opposed to marinating it, I think the burning sugars in the lemon juice/garlic probably aren't helping.
>>2829055Seasoning your grate is actually something i was going to suggest. Id also suggest that you can still marinate the fish, but try drying the skin with paper towel and applying cooking oil directly to the fish moments before it goes on the grill. Also use your spatula to fully dislodge the skin before you try to flip. Might also be worth trying injection marinating instead of slicing the skin, that cant be making it any easier to keep the skin in tact.
>>2829057I've got a few frozen pike logs I can play with, but realistically I think I'll just stick with a close score and fried. This scoring didn't do shit for the bones on the bbq, I think you need the oil for that. I've never had a grilled freshwater fish that blew me away, they're always so much better fried.
>>2829063I really like pike over wood, but in general, everything is better fried.
>>2829045I've been planning on getting one of those for years and just never pulled the trigger because I've got too many rods. I just love the idea of a lightweight long rod with minimalist reel seat. I need to get rid of one of my setups and get one.
>>2829066This was my first Northern over 28โ of the year
Taking a trip to Montana, Wyoming and Idaho later this summer, is there anywhere that I have to go for fishing? Yes I'm visiting Yellowstone and the Tetons before anyone asks
>>2829087Clearwater river near Redlodge Mt, my PB Brown and my PB rainbow were both caught on the same bend of that river.
This week I have about $300 I can spend on the hobby. I'm split between a saltwater friendly baitcaster or a surf rod and reel. I've never used either but I can use any of my spinning rods for freshwater, baitcasting is more something I want to learn. Likewise, surf fishing seems awesome, I live about 10 minutes away from the beach but its so unlike anything else I don't know where to start. Like what size rod, how many pieces. reel size, etc.
>>2829048i usually just hack off as much meat as i can, not really caring about that smaller bones, blend them up and make fish cakes, pretty darn good
>>2829090surf fishing can be location specific. where are you at?
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Are fish scalers only meant to be used outdoors or is there a way I can use them without having scales fly all over my kitchen?
>>2829120Central Florida, specifically New Smryna Beach. My main spots would be the inlet and Bethune Beach. I was thinking a Daiwa 10' 2p with a 5k reel to get me started. I dont know what size / weight to use for lures or hooks. I assumed you just load up frozen bait, throw it as far as you can and ....?
>>2829027>Yeah for freshwater thats actually nicer than any of my baitcasting combos barring my musky stick. If youre gonna do saltwater consider a penn squall low profile. If not the Daiwa Tatula I really like the Arid-X too. It comes in a 6'6 and is only $50. Seems crazy to throw a $150-$250 on a pole that cheap but its calling me. I'll check out the Penn too. The shamano other anon recommended looks nice too.
>>2829130You could scale a fish inside a trash bag, but yeah, gut and scale your catch before you leave the lake hombre.
>>2829135The Procyon exists between the Tatula and the Aird-X. I'm not a fan of the Aird-X. I really like the Berkley Lightning rod for that price point. I'm going to buy a couple.
>>2829142NTA but funny you'd compare the AirdX and lightning rod, I was going to buy an Aird X last month but the store in town only had casting rods, so I went with a lightning rod for cheaper and hell I ended up liking it more. Especially the appearance.
>>2829134it really depends on what type of fish you're targeting. there are lighter surf rods for hardbaits and soft plastic rigs and heavier ones for chucking out large baits.
>>2829135daiwa aird-x is one of the better budget rods. it's light and decently sensitive for the price. it's more of a general purpose rod that can also be used with hardbaits since it's not a super fast tip. they hold up to abuse too like getting thrown intot he back of truck beds and even stepped on sometimes. they are also really light for the pricepoint, especially the 6ft6 models. the minimalist reelseat is really the only thing that is a matter of preference. some people hate exposed reelseats for comfort, but the completely exposed blank does mean better sensitivity.
>>2829178Ifish has rotted everyone's brains.
Quantum graphex is the goat budget rod
ok i bought all this shit and an ugly stick how do i find trout? or other shit i can put in my mouth. western washington
>>2829227missing a rod and reel son
>>2829238>and an ugly sticklrn 2 reed
>>2829227Any of the mountain rivers and streams should be full of rainbows in western washington. You may also have browns and brookies depending on where. Browns aren't native so look for water feeding lakes stocked with them. Most if not all of the lakes will probably have rainbows and browns. They may also be stocked with lake bound salmon as well as bass, crappie and bluegill.
>>2829214i_fish is right about plenty of things, but he's also a narcissist. plus he's biased with the types of actions he likes as anyone else who has been fishing a long time would be. his suggestions definitely aren't for everyone. he's gonna be super jaded now since he's getting $500+ jdm rods regularly.
>>28292278 lb is too heavy for trout. Go with 4 lb. The swivels won't work. You need smaller swivels that are not rated as high, otherwise you will get a fuckton of line twist. I also recommend using a snap. An Ugly Stik is ok, but it's no longer good for the price, and it is especially weak for trout fishing, since trout can be subtle in their eats. I really like the Panther Martin. I would get a yellow and silver 2, a black and gold 2, and both those colors in 4s.
You can get by with the Ugly Stik. If you can swap the line for something lighter, I definitely would. You really need to get lighter swivels, and if you decide not to, I would recommend you fish without a swivel. Since it'll be useless, no sense in dealing with the hassle.
>>2829227>>2829264The Panther Martin recommendations are good, but you can pretty much ignore the rest of that guys post. I've caught plenty of trout on 12lb mono, 8 will work just fine.
>>2829240missing a reel, son.
>>2829264>He likes panther martinsI have never caught a single fish on a panther martin, but every time I throw out a rooster tail I catch a fish. Why is that? Are panther martins just shit?
>>2829277just depends on the water conditions and the species, if they are actively feeding or sluggish, etc.
the bit of feather or whatever on the back of those lures gets clumped up when wet and undulates in a way that mimics small bait really well
>>2829277Panther Martins are tried and true, don't know why you're having issues.
I do think they're kind of overpriced. Gotta pay them Italian factory workers their obligatory pack of cigarettes and glass of wine a day. I joke, they're made in chink land these days.
I just buy those knock off rooster tails for less than a buck at wally world and they work just fine.
>>2829214Shill me this rod. Iโm looking for a new cheap rod that I can take creek fishing, primarily for ned rigs.
Somebody sell me on walleye fishing from the bank. It's popular here I guess, but I think they lose a dozen jigs in the rocks just to catch one fish so what's the point?
>>2829301You using dropshots on the rocks? It should reduce the amount you lose.
>>2829293the likelihood that any rod is going to fail you on some light weight situations is pretty low. just find a reputable brand and buy one of their products if it fits your budget.
>>2829293you want sensitivity for ned rigs. the aird-x with braid to leader or straight yo-zuri hybrid will be pretty sensitive for the price. the 6'6 being slightly more crisp than the 7'. get medium or medium heavy depending on hook wire size. the other option is to always find a higher tier rod on sale.
>>2828729A little mountain lake in Colorado
>>2829293I'm the biggest graphex stan you will ever find. It's been my primary rod for 6 years now. It's a super light, very fast very sensitive rod for 35 maple Bux, until recently it was just 30. I like the chrome guides in place of inserts because they don't crack they just bend. I've been on vacation in Florida just casting at Lady fish for 2 weeks straight sitting on the beach with a toddler, dragging salty sandy braid over the guides, never had an issue with grooving. I'm on my 3rd one, first one I broke when it was lying on its side and I was making a cast with my heavy casting rod and the leader wrapped around the tip, second rod lasted about 3 years and I just broke it recently high sticking a 6lb pike while I wasn't paying attention and my novice friend was being retarded with the net. 6 years and I'm just now cresting over 100$ in rods.
It feels way better than the Shimano stimula which is almost 50% more expensive, and my stimula broke almost immediately after buying it under very basic conditions.
It's not as tough as fiberglass rods, but it also feels as good as the expensive rods, which are no more durable. I'd rather have the sensitivity with the understanding that carbon is more brittle and only be out 35$ every few years.
I throw bass frogs and big pike spoons with 20lb braid, as well as lightweight bait rigs with 6lb mono. I keep buying other rods and I keep coming back to this one. I'm convinced it's basically the only freshwater spinning rod I'm going to buy so long as it's available
>>2829048Slice some lemons and oranges on the grill and put the fish on top of em
Probably gonna go buy my first real rod and reel (that isn't a cheap one from Canadian tire) tomorrow. Any suggestions? My budget is $200 canadian ($150 USD). Needs to be a 2 piece.
I exclusively do shore fishing since I have no boat, and I mostly target pike and walleye (though I've had no luck with walleye this year so far), and I also do trout fishing though I plan to eventually get an ultralight for that. I'm thinking either 6'6" or 7'0" for length (longer will probably be too awkward to cast for tight spots), medium weight. Would fast action be a good idea, or should I just go with medium for that too?
Also, I want durability, especially in regards to the reel (if I have to set the rod down I don't want to worry about sand fucking up the reel), but sensitivity is probably just as if not more important because I'm still fairly new to this hobby and have trouble telling when I'm getting a light bite (let alone distinguishing a bite from my lure catching the top of weeds). Guessing I should go with graphite over fiberglass?
Is it cool to splice braided line?
My spool needs a top up
>>2829404Sure, use a double uni or a blood knot
>>2829397Oh yeah also, what sort of line do you guys recommend? I think I've been using 7lb clear mono (it came with the Canadian Tire rod). I'm thinking of going up to 10lb. Is there any particular colour I should get, or just go with clear? Also, mono or fluoro (not going to use braid)?
>>2829387Sounds like a great way to get not-crispy-skin
>>2829397Your budget is fine, but it doesn't sound like you know what you want so maybe don't blow that cash yet if that's not the kind of money you want to spend carelessly.
Unironically, I'd spend 50$ on an AliExpress or temu or whatever reel, all the north american brands in your budget are all just rebadged OEM reels from these same factories so you're missing out on nothing except paying some overweight diabetic sales managers salary. I like the kastking Sharkey but there are literally countless good options
>>2829404I gave up on that, the break always ends up being on the last 1/3rd of the cast and the feeling of the knot passing through the guides always makes me queasy.
What should my budget be for getting fly fishing equipment for river fishing for trout?
>>2828538>>2828539The Coffee Pot is a good place with public access just a few miles up the road from Last Chance. Henery's Fork is a fly fishing Mecca so the fish are heavily pressured and will be picky. Henry's Fork Anglers has good breakfast burritos and there are plenty of cheap places to stay.
>>2829404I just use an FG knot.
>>2829397first off, never sit your reel down in/near sand. it's that simple. I always lay down a tackle box or something and then sit my reel on that if I'm in a sandy area. or prop it up against a tree. second, as you mentioned for trout, it's better jsut to have an ultralight/light rod for that. you're not gonna find a durable pike style setup that is good for casting light stuff for trout and being able to fight them without being too stiff. what kind of lures do you mainly throw for pike? seeing as you sound like you want a fairly versatile rod, I'd suggest a bladed jig style rod. they aren't usually glass rods, but have more of a moderate action so it's like bridging the gap between a glass and normal rod. you usually still have decent sensitivity. are you planning to get a baitcaster since it's for pike? at the end of the day, the best way to get bang for buck is to buy rods and reels when online retailers have them on sale or have big seasonal sales. you can get higher tier gear for much cheaper than msrp. that's how I bought most of my stuff. I have some stuff that I NEVER would have bought at msrp. granted it involves being less picky, more patient, but it really pays off. I've bought $250 reels for $150, and $200 rods for $100.
got this fella with a friend, feeder + boillies, had 3kg