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Anonymous No.2835431 [Report] >>2835432 >>2835454 >>2835493 >>2835500 >>2835530 >>2835567 >>2835568 >>2835574 >>2835995 >>2836014 >>2836057 >>2836069 >>2836655 >>2836816 >>2836867 >>2837599 >>2837980 >>2841091 >>2841092 >>2841112 >>2841209 >>2841433 >>2841887 >>2843690 >>2843784 >>2848124
Best bear defence
Bear spray or firearm?
Anonymous No.2835432 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
Fire bear arm spray
Anonymous No.2835433 [Report]
Bowie knife.
Anonymous No.2835434 [Report] >>2835528
Walk towards bear windmilling arms
If the bear gets hit, it's the bear's own fault.
Anonymous No.2835449 [Report] >>2835499 >>2835551 >>2837585
.357 doesn't care which way the wind is blowing.
Anonymous No.2835454 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
firearm
Anonymous No.2835486 [Report] >>2835528
saw two bears for the first time this week while waking up in my tent. baby bear was going psycho on a tree maybe 10ft away and the mom was a little further back. didn't bring anything because i didnt expect to see a bear but my bug spray had a whistle built in to the cap and i just blew into that until it fucked off.

in conclusion firearm.
Anonymous No.2835493 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
i mean, you could just easily look up the statistics
Anonymous No.2835499 [Report]
>>2835449
It does a little bit
Anonymous No.2835500 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
Imagine your food starts wanking just when you are about to eat it. Lost your appetite? Now you know what to do.
Anonymous No.2835528 [Report] >>2835569 >>2841433
>>2835486
>I’ve only seen a bear once and it ran away as soon as I did something
Why should we give any credence to your opinion?

>>2835434
This would legitimately work.
Anonymous No.2835530 [Report] >>2835565
>>2835431 (OP)
I carry a shield and beat it every so often to scare them away. If they charge it might give me a sec or two to say my prayers
Anonymous No.2835551 [Report] >>2835565 >>2835620 >>2837587 >>2837598 >>2839553
>>2835449
>.357 for a grizzly
No gunz larp fag
Anonymous No.2835565 [Report] >>2839591
>>2835530
Okay, that's pretty fucking cool ngl
>>2835551
>for a grizzly
I guess it would depend on the size of the grizzly.

t. 12ga for any bear imho
Anonymous No.2835567 [Report] >>2835578
>>2835431 (OP)
Both. Both can work. Both can fail. If its a griz, the idea is to not have to kill it...but if you have to to save your life then so be it...
Anonymous No.2835568 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
only guns are lethal but by no means fail safe. Less margin of error for bear spray.
Anonymous No.2835569 [Report]
>>2835528
>why should we give any credence to your opinion

because i won they lost. owned
Anonymous No.2835574 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
spray if you're not retarded
gun if you're a larper from /k/
Anonymous No.2835578 [Report] >>2835581
>>2835567
both is the right idea. i carry a firearm as well but the spray can potentially be a life saver even if you can't actively use it
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/22/g-s1-40/self-inflicted-hit-of-pepper-spray-drives-off-an-attacking-grizzly-in-grand-teton-national-park
>guy gets blindsided, no time to react
>gets mauled
>bear bites the bear spray can he had on him
>gets sprayed and leaves
>he survives
Anonymous No.2835581 [Report] >>2835585
>>2835578
>bears dont season they food
Anonymous No.2835585 [Report]
>>2835581
EdnaKrabappleLaugh.wav
Anonymous No.2835620 [Report]
>>2835551
It's more for tweakers than bears desu
Anonymous No.2835995 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
Why not both?
Anonymous No.2836014 [Report] >>2836017 >>2836030 >>2836652 >>2838109
>>2835431 (OP)
Fire arm. Everytime. If you trust your life to "the burny juice" that has no lethality for a 600lb killing machine, then you deserve what you get.
Anonymous No.2836017 [Report] >>2836587
>>2836014
>must kill everything
Anonymous No.2836030 [Report] >>2836587
>>2836014
We get literally nothing, just like you. You’ve never had to shoot a bear or use bear spray. You’ve probably never seen a bear.
Anonymous No.2836057 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
why not both?
they both work for the job but work best in different circumstances
Anonymous No.2836069 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
The best bear defense is to become a vampire and drink its blood.
Anonymous No.2836073 [Report]
FN FAL should deal with a bear sufficiently.
Anonymous No.2836587 [Report] >>2836601
>>2836017
No. Only if it's aggressive and charges.
>>2836030
You don't know shit. Seen plenty of black bears. Never had to fire on em. They scare off easy. Seen a couple brown, but they were far enough away. One even spotted me, but didnt care. I'm talking strictly about if a bear attacks, you want to neutralize the threat. Not that I actively attack any animal just because I have a gun on me.
You weak wristed faggot.
Anonymous No.2836601 [Report] >>2837588 >>2837595
>>2836587
>you want to neutralize the threat
you can do that without killing it.
Anonymous No.2836652 [Report]
>>2836014
>600lb
Dude we had a guy hit a 600lb Black bear on the highway a couple years ago about 30 miles from my place.
Grizzly's hit 1,200 pounds when theyre fattening for winter. Largest recorded was 2,200 pounds.
Anonymous No.2836655 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
if something is trying to kill me, I'd rather kill it than make it even angrier.
Anonymous No.2836816 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
I'm honestly surprised no one's commented "my dick" yet.
Anonymous No.2836819 [Report] >>2836912
bear spray is statistically more effective and obviously safer
Anonymous No.2836867 [Report] >>2841699
>>2835431 (OP)
Neither. Having bear spray makes you more likely to use it, making many of the people who used it think it saved their lives (it did not), and provided others with undue confidence. In the history of North American bear encounters, the number of deaths and maulings is hysterically low. I've run into countless black bears while hiking and picking berries, who will fucking kill you more reliably than grisly bears if you actually get into a fight with one, but the likelihood of that is near zero. They always run because, unlike you, they're not retarded. If we're talking about polar bears, that's something else entirely, and the only answer there is a relatively high powered rifle. For every other bear species, it's a pointless overhyped confidence booster for scared people. Other animals - cats, wolves, coyotes, etc. - are of no concern whatsoever and will leave you alone. If you're in the woods during rutting season, pray to fucking God you don't run into a bull moose. Otherwise, it's not worthwhile to speak about edge cases and bad luck here because these are meant to be protection for every single instance of going into the woods, which is nonsense. Between the gun and the bear spray, a shotgun is the better option, but if you're from a fake country like Canada, beware (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/black-bear-shooting-fine-1.6897845).
Anonymous No.2836912 [Report]
>>2836819
308 to the dome begs to differ also.
Anonymous No.2837585 [Report] >>2847836
>>2835449
Its been proven that your more likely to just piss it off and make it perceive you as a threat. spray makes it spazz out and bail far more consistently
Anonymous No.2837587 [Report] >>2837598
>>2835551
Based larper
Anonymous No.2837588 [Report] >>2837592
>>2836601
Wrong.
Anonymous No.2837592 [Report] >>2837595 >>2837597
>>2837588
Not wrong.
Anonymous No.2837595 [Report] >>2837609 >>2837609 >>2844964
>>2836601
>>2837592
anon. youre missing the point he was originally making.

this isnt one of your marvel movies where you can cripple an attacker with the hot sriracha spray and expect to be a hero.

i, and any sane man will use lethal force if necessary. also remember for bears, conservation officers will put them down if they are brazen enough to attack humans because they will do it again. cus they see them as easy sources of food.

thats why you really shouldnt feed them.
i would def not use bugjuice(tm) to spray them with vs something like a gun that can actually put them down, and guarantee they wont attack you or anyone again.
Anonymous No.2837597 [Report] >>2837603
>>2837592
No you fucking retard. You "neutralize" a threat. You don't let it off with a warning.
Goddamn pussies these days, I swear.
Anonymous No.2837598 [Report] >>2845287
>>2835551
>>2837587
Smallest caliber ever to kill a grizzly was a .22lr.
You definitely can carry and use a .357. That's my daily carry. Remeber it's all about shot placement.
Anonymous No.2837599 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
Pain compliance is the weakest way to defend yourself. If you're going to defend yourself go all the way. Use a firearm. I don't trust my life to a gimic. I trust my Smith and Wesson .44mag however.
Anonymous No.2837603 [Report]
>>2837597
>hurddurr
Anonymous No.2837609 [Report] >>2839223
>>2837595
>will use lethal force if necessary
but it isnt neccesary.
>conservation officers will put them down if they are brazen enough to attack humans because they will do it again
tell me you havent a clue without telling me. this isnt at all true. Grizzlies who attack humans in defense of food or cubs or get surprised (all 3 of which are the vast majority of cases) do not get put down because they were acting naturally. Bears who consume humans or repeatedly act agreessivley toward humans or exhibit human conditioned behaviors - like raiding chicken shacks or garbage etc...get removed or killed.

>>2837595
>hot sriracha spray
memetake. based on retardation.

>i would def not use bugjuice(tm) to spray them with vs something like a gun that can actually put them down
more memetakes. Less room for error with bear spray. Lots of people shoot bears and it doesnt kill them.
Anonymous No.2837980 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
You bring Opinel-anon and shoot him in the knee.
Anonymous No.2838010 [Report] >>2838018 >>2838736 >>2841090 >>2847818
bear spray doesnt work supposedly

https://flatheadbeacon.com/2025/08/28/hiker-injured-in-glacier-national-park-bear-encounter/
Anonymous No.2838018 [Report] >>2838027 >>2838734 >>2844357
>>2838010
Do you want the bear to eat your kayak, 'cause that's how you get your kayak eaten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5cMZymSr0
Anonymous No.2838027 [Report]
>>2838018
Anonymous No.2838037 [Report]
Threads about animal attacks are somehow more gay than threads about running away from home to live in the woods.
Anonymous No.2838109 [Report]
>>2836014
>fails to score a CNS hit on the 800 lbs mass of fury barreling towards him at 35 mph
>dies
I carry both. People act as if they're in a videogame and their 44 magnum or 10mm is guaranteed to kill the bear because it does 200 damage and a grizz only has 180 hp. In reality if the thing's charging you and you don't hit the spine or brain within your first two shots (about all you'll get) then you're fucked. Assuming you see it and manage to draw fast enough (hope you have a chest holster).
Anonymous No.2838117 [Report]
I admire and respect bears. Once I was walking up a mountain pass on the Virginia - West Virginia state line when I saw a mama bear on top of the embankment looking at me very nervously. She made a bear noise, and a second later, her three cubs sprang up out of the weedy roadside ditch they were napping in and ran up the slope to her. I gave her a smile and said "it's okay mama bear".
>if you see a bear you should shout, wave your arms, and otherwise behave like a deranged chimpanzee
Stupid advice. In the lower 48 states when interacting with a wild bear, it's much better to stand still, maintain your self-possession, speak kind words and appreciate an encounter with a beautiful wild creature. The bears of the far north are more savage and unfriendly toward humans, so it's wise to be armed up that way. Only human-acclimated bears in search of human food should be harassed until they leave.
Anonymous No.2838128 [Report]
how to deal with bears
>pic rel stop being gay and learn to use a gun if you are gonna exist in the same place as animals that can eat you.
Anonymous No.2838734 [Report]
>>2838018
She asked repeatedly. Did the bear ever explain why he ate her kayak?
Anonymous No.2838736 [Report] >>2838748
>>2838010
>bear spray doesn't work
From the article:
>The bear ran away after the woman’s hiking partner deployed bear spray.
>THE BEAR RAN AWAY AFTER DEPLOYING BEAR SPRAY

>The last reported bear attack in Glacier occurred in September 2024, when a 35-year-old Washington man surprised a bear at close range on the Highline Trail. It bit the man on the knee but was quickly deterred as other hikers deployed bear spray. No action was taken against the animal because it was a surprise encounter.
>QUICKLY DETERRED AS OTHER HIKERS DEPLOYED BEAR SPRAY
Anonymous No.2838737 [Report]
Later on another trip the same guy threw the .44 magnum away because his sledge was too heavy. He regretted that when he saw a polar bear in the distance but kept away from it and lives today.

LONDON 1982 -- Two British explorers attempting to circle the globe by way of the North and South poles wounded and drove off a 'very determined' 1,000-pound polar bear on an Arctic ice floe, a spokesman for the Transglobe expedition says.

Sir Ranulph Fiennes, 38, and Charles Burton, 40, encountered the bear on the ice floe that has served as their base camp for several weeks as they make their way to a July rendezvous with a support ship off the Norwegian island of Spitzbergen.

'They discovered a 1,000-pound polar bear outside their camp and set about banging saucepans to frighten it off, but it still came forward,' the spokesman said Sunday.

'They fired off two signal flares to startle him, but he was a very determined polar bear and capable of charging quickly.'

Fiennes pulled out his revolver and fired two warning shots that still did not dissuade the advancing animal, the spokesman said.

'The bear was coming on them and before he broke into a gallop, Sir Ranulph fired his .44 revolver, winged the bear and that did the trick,' he said.

'He didn't kill the bear,' the spokesman said. 'He didn't want to, because they are beautiful animals. It was a question of hitting the bear in the arm or leg and scaring it off.'

The spokesman said neither man was injured in the incident, during which Burton covered Fiennes with a loaded rifle.

'They've had dangerous situations before, but this is the nastiest so far,' he said.

'As they move further south there is an increasing risk of encountering polar bears,' he said. 'We airlifted more bullets to them last week from the base at Spitzbergen.'
Anonymous No.2838748 [Report]
>>2838736
>bear spray doesn't work
>supposedly
>autist detected
nuance over your head? The article was posted because according to retards on this board, bear spray doesnt work, when the article shows that it can work. Try and keep up.
Anonymous No.2839223 [Report] >>2839469 >>2844837
>>2837609
Wrong again retard.
Anonymous No.2839325 [Report]
For people who actually know how to shoot pistols? Firearm is more effective.

For people on /k/ who clearly don’t shoot handguns and can’t hold a 6 inch group at 15 yards? Bear spray is more effective.
Anonymous No.2839469 [Report]
>>2839223
>derps
very compelling argument
Anonymous No.2839553 [Report]
>>2835551
with the right ammunition and practice, it's far better than nothing
Anonymous No.2839591 [Report]
>>2835565
Most 12ga slugs are soft lead so the slugs flatten out (pancake) almost immediately upon hitting bone, they also lose energy like an anchor dropping the farther out it flies (12ga slugs lose about 800 ft lbs of energy by 100 yards). The only reason they are chosen is because slugs and shotguns are cheap ($1/rd instead of $4 for magnum pistols), handy, and it dumps 1,500 ft lbs of energy into the bear immediately, which will fuck anything up. Slugs are also a little bit easier to get on target at close ranges because of the huge bore. Buckshot is generally worse than standard bore pistols on bears because they don't penetrate very far even if they spray more energy into the bear in total.

On the thread theme, there are cases of spray completely failing and a bear killing two people in a single incident. There are also cases where a .44 mag failed to immediately kill a bear due to poor shot placement and the bear charging from a hidden tree line. If you live in Canada you're not allowed to carry handguns in general and it's risky to carry a shotgun or rifle around on a camping trip or hike because Canada isn't general open carry like the USA. So in Canada, spray is sometimes all you can safely carry. In the USA however, we've got guns down to a science, especially in bear country and a firearm is a smart thing to bring with you in any backcountry, there are 100+ cases of firearms successfully stopping charges in the USA in recent decades (including 9mm).

General rule of thumb for bear defense ammo.

FMJ, TMJ, and especially hardcast bullets are best. You want penetration over expansion. You don't necessarily need to mag dump or rely on huge mags, as in a dangerous charge you will likely only have time to get 2-4 shots that you can get off (theoretically) into the bear. Small rifles (.30 bore >/=) and magnum power pistols (including magnum class semis) work fine on big bears, and most of the reported kills are actually with sidearms, due to accessibility.
Anonymous No.2841090 [Report] >>2847818
>>2838010
Oh No Guise...another case of bear spray working...but you guys told me it didnt work and it was just a tasty hot sauce.

https://oilcity.news/wyoming/2025/09/17/hiker-in-tuesday-yellowstone-grizzly-attack-released-from-hospital/
Anonymous No.2841091 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
>firearm

Remember that anything less than .357 is just gonna get you killed amd even then you should consider bringing a shotgun and don't rely on a pistol for anything other than a black bear (or a small brown bear)
Anonymous No.2841092 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
baby jews
Anonymous No.2841112 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
Whenever they come bothering me I just give 'em the ol' one-two and they run away like the scared little pussycats they are
Anonymous No.2841209 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
Maybe one of those hunting dogs. Laika or Scandinavian bear dogs.

https://youtu.be/5FYafchd4Fs?feature=shared
Anonymous No.2841419 [Report]
https://youtu.be/jz5fJ9OCbJE?feature=shared

https://youtube.com/shorts/iA2gS6H_6IU?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/ophW6WwhjIg?feature=shared

https://youtube.com/shorts/_WNCOgqofqo?feature=shared

Here some bear and dogs videos.

What i think helps a lot, at least in high density of bears area as Romania. Is that people have more utility shepherd dogs and they free during night and there are also lots of ither free comunitarian dogs free all over the place and this keep conflict between human and bear at distance
Anonymous No.2841433 [Report] >>2841632 >>2841699
>>2835528
You should've asked what kind of bear it was- black bears are scared easily, but grizzlies are very aggressive.
>>2835431 (OP)
Firearm, if it's a fucking grizzly or a god damned polar bear; the latter will keep hunting you down, so shoot the fuck out of it.
Anonymous No.2841456 [Report]
I carry around my big morning star mace and I've bashed many bear's heads into smitheroons.
Anonymous No.2841632 [Report] >>2844838
>>2841433
>grizzlies are very aggressive
they are not very aggressive...but they are very defensive. there's a difference.
Anonymous No.2841699 [Report]
>>2836867
>If we're talking about polar bears, that's something else entirely, and the only answer there is a relatively high powered rifle
>>2841433
>if it's a fucking grizzly or a god damned polar bear; the latter will keep hunting you down, so shoot the fuck out of it
Bear spray is more effective on polar bears than grizzlies or even black bears. They’re highly predatory but not at all confrontational
Anonymous No.2841887 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
White woman, you leave it for the bear.
Anonymous No.2841896 [Report]
with black burr I've always just done stomp clap hey and they freak off, even with cubs
Anonymous No.2843538 [Report]
on what animals does the tactic of holding your ground and looking scary work because if an animals too close running away might not be an option
Anonymous No.2843570 [Report] >>2844247
.45-70 revolver obviously
Anonymous No.2843690 [Report] >>2843691
>>2835431 (OP)
Which one kills the bear?
Anonymous No.2843691 [Report] >>2844358
>>2843690
>caveman intellect
sure thing johhny
Anonymous No.2843784 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
Both. Bear spray is effective in most scenarios and a gun will get you through the rest.

Being in a group of 2+ is the best bear deterrent. A group of anything over 3 realistically doesn't even need bear spray.
Anonymous No.2844247 [Report] >>2844380
>>2843570
a sore wrist is better than being dead any day of the week...except sunday
Anonymous No.2844357 [Report]
>>2838018
looks to me this bear doesn't speak english
Anonymous No.2844358 [Report] >>2844408
>>2843691
If a caveman is smart enough to know that the best defense against a bear is to kill it and you don't, you might just be dumber than a caveman.
Anonymous No.2844380 [Report] >>2844726
>>2844247
why is it better to be dead on sunday than have a sore wrist?
Anonymous No.2844408 [Report]
>>2844358
>doubles down on dumb
The best defense against a bear is to not get attacked in the first place.
Anonymous No.2844409 [Report] >>2844734 >>2847818
Damn. bear spray worked again. You retards told me it didnt work. Why are you lying?

"On Oct. 3, a lone hunter reportedly encountered a grizzly bear at close range. The bear charged, and the hunter deployed bear spray, which stopped the charge. The hunter left the area and reported the incident to FWP."

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/three-archery-hunters-in-the-taylor-fork-ok-after-separate-grizzly-encounters/article_193e8849-d7ef-49a6-8c55-4cf81a948fee.html
Anonymous No.2844726 [Report]
>>2844380
cause then I dont have to get up early and dress up for church. duh
Anonymous No.2844727 [Report]
Why do we have to have this stupid fucking thread every 3 weeks? And why is it always so cringe?
Anonymous No.2844734 [Report]
>>2844409
>Why are you lying?
Because 4chan is populated by incels and CHUDs. They live in their mother's basement and have little to no interaction with the actual world.
Anonymous No.2844837 [Report]
>>2839223
imagine being this fucking retarded
Anonymous No.2844838 [Report]
>>2841632
underrated post
Anonymous No.2844964 [Report]
>>2837595
You’re gay, wrong, retarded, and a faggot.

First off, conservation officers don’t always kill aggressive bears. It depends on the situation. If the bear got food from people or exhibited behavior that it targeted people for their food, then yes, a fed bear is a dead bear. But if a bear approaches someone, even aggressively, gets sprayed, and runs off. It’s not likely that the bear will be killed given that it being sprayed taught it that fucking with humans = cloud if agony to the face. NPS rangers who specialize in bear hazing will frequently use bear spray to effectively deter bears from entering certain areas.

On another note, your “neutralize the threat” language indicates to me that you are either a GWOT fag or a wannabe GWOT fag which makes you incredibly gay and also a big gay faggot as indicated above. You wannabe macho retards who endlessly peacock about how you wish a bear would try you so you could kill it, have never hunted and have zero concept of how much of a pain in the ass dealing with the results of killing a bear in defense of life or property is. You won’t be a hero and the wardens will try their best to prove it was an unnecessary use of force. Of course, if the bear is aggressive and you don’t think conditions warrant successful use of bear spray, put it down. Most folks don’t know how to read bear behavior though.

Anyways, can we stop having this same fucking thread over and over? The only correct answer is that you should be carrying both spray and a blickey in bear country. Spray is extremely effective in most cases however there are situational or environmental factors that could make it less reliable, hence the sidearm.
Anonymous No.2845287 [Report]
>>2837598
What is the best projectile for a large animal? I'm guessing a big 158 grain jacketed solid round would be better than a 125 grain jhp defense round for a bear or cougar.
Anonymous No.2845299 [Report] >>2845300 >>2847595
I bet the sound of the gun scares them so much they run half a mile in the opposite direction. In the woods there ARE warning shots.
Anonymous No.2845300 [Report]
>>2845299
In fact, why not let off a few rounds before bedding down for the night? Might as well keep the bears on their toes when you're tucked up in your sleeping bag. Just zip down the door a few inches and stick the barrel out for a second.
Anonymous No.2847595 [Report]
>>2845299
my niegbor had a sow and 2 cubs in the pasture the other night. he said it took several warning shots before she even turned to go- just stood there and looked at him lol
Anonymous No.2847818 [Report]
>>2838010
>>2841090
>>2844409
3 cases of bear spray working just from this year. interdasting.
Anonymous No.2847836 [Report] >>2847839
>>2837585
>its been proven
you can't just say its been proven and magically it is
a bear isn't some solid steel plate. 357 will go through the head of a bear and dismember its brain in ways it cannot recover from. period. thats just physics
though you're better off with 10mm
(^. .^)⟆ !inxztnezbg No.2847839 [Report]
>>2847836
Glock 20 chads with Underwood black cherries we UP
Anonymous No.2848124 [Report]
>>2835431 (OP)
Car