Thread 2838012

Protip you can't

Bragging about best /out/ states is counterintuitive, you want more influencer retards shitting up your state or something?

>>2838012 (OP)
Ask the Arizona autist

>>2838028
Tbh the /out/ing in Arizona is just on another level. I'd say California is up there too, but California has whacky laws and I get tired of dealing with them. There are a few /out/ states that just aren't compatible to all the others, and Arizona and California definitely make the list. Florida and Wyoming too.

>>2838012 (OP)
Most every other western state

>>2838012 (OP)
New Mexico is severely underrated in this regard

>>2838072
It's surprising that New Mexico has a greater percentage of public land than Colorado.

https://www.summitpost.org/public-and-private-land-percentages-by-us-states/186111

>>2838012 (OP)
>Protip you can't
>the /out/ing in Arizona is just on another level
So which is it? Can OP defeat the AZAU?

>Wyoming
What does WY have that Montana doesnt except for a few higher peaks?

>>2838012 (OP)
Alaska
Stay out

>>2838087
If you have to ask this, then it's not for you.

>>2838014
new mexanon here, they're already here but santa fe & taos act as containment zones. there's almost no housing or jobs plus the benefit of intentional obfuscation and hostile, tight-knit culture. time in the backcountry requires a little time planning with paper maps and the lack of guardrails and ranger supervision scares a lot of people

>>2838200
>the lack of guardrails and ranger supervision scares a lot of people
So it's the exact same as: Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Colorado, Alaska?

>>2838126
>cant answer
>cops out
lol. Montana is better than wyoming.

>>2838214
The answer is that you're asking the wrong questions. You demonstrate a critical lack of understanding, of hopelessness.

>>2838219
>is retarded
>doubles down on cope
the answer is you are a clueless faggot, doomed forever to be a retard.

>>2838219
>asks how they're different
>you're asking the wrong questions
sounds like you're trying too hard to sound smart

>>2838207
yeah probably any of those states would be great places to live, but i also know many of them have way more transplants

west virginia

>>2838200
>santa fe & taos act as containment zones
also known as the only 2 towns in NM that aren't shitholes? besides Los Alamitos

>>2838028
I think I am the Arizona autist
I am sorry you cannot appreciate the superiority of Arizona

>>2838311
should i do the arizona trail? i got my finger over the book flight

>>2838284
fanta se is a real shithole with the homeless now fren. truly don't understand coming to this state to live in one of the cities though

>>2838380
This tbdesu. NM isn't a state where you live in cities.

>>2838311
Wrong. This is the Arizona autist >>2838136. He's been here far longer than the Appalachian autist and has posted hundreds of out pictures he's taken himself. If you need data or synopsis for anything science or history related to AZ, he has it.

I'm deeply Arizona pilled because there's nothing on earth as beautiful as the low Sonoran Desert but NM has it's advantages. Less populated, less urban, less wealthy. Even though AZ's urban population is confined to Phoenix/Tucson remote Northern and Western AZ get slammed by tourists going to national parking lots and Quartzsite RV bullshit respectively. There's still plenty of places to disappear if you know what you're doing, especially on the border, but with Phoenix becoming a mecca for rich tech jerkoffs we're not gonna run out of water fast enough to prevent everything from Vail to Buckeye becoming one gaint suburb.

>>2838284
Shithole cities are good. Shithole cities don't bring thousands of REI consoomers to your secret spots. I miss when Tucson was a shithole.

>>2838448
Arizona's 2nd district is larger in land area than the state of Florida and has a population of roughly 830,000 people. And no one can afford to rent or buy a house there either. Any additional growth AZ will experience will be completely confined to the mordor corridor where 81% of the entire AZ population already lives. AZ's high desert shortgrass plains are not cultivated or grazed at all (literally less than 1% is utilized), the mordor corridor is the only region of AZ that actually has water and food sustainability issues. Pic unrelated.

>>2838448
>oh look, sand, rocks and catcus
How is this more beautiful than an alpine lake in the sierras?

>>2838538
Its more that theres less tourist niggers and a shit ton of land to fuck around. The only reservation i have about NM is that i could be murdered anywhere

>>2838540
Anywhere anytime

Utah>Colorado>Arizona>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NM

>>2838449
Tucson is a shithole anon.
Charming shithole but still a shithole.

>>2838012 (OP)
Its the most kino state but don't tell anyone. We try to keep it a secret

>>2838997
Eh... no. It just can't compete with Colorado and Alaska.

I really don't care what you losers think.

>>2838997
Hardly. It's a fucking shithole filled with retarded assholes.

>>2838126
holy fuck what a cop out lol.

NM really is amazing. Bonus points if anyone recognizes the nippe mountain off the west side of 25 between ABQ and SF.

Being in the desert plains at near sunset is one of the most surreal experiences I've ever had. Just something about it, OP. I agree with you.

>>2838012 (OP)
I think literally every single state is better than that.
Who wants to walk for days in a desert without seeing a plant and then you die? And that's the good ending. You might wander into US Military area and never be seen again.

States like New York are much better, and it's not even close.

I don't believe it's actually possible to think New Mexico and Nevada are good unless you have some mental deficiencies and/or grew up there and never visited anywhere else.

I studied in NM for a semester but to be fair, it's just the poor man's Arizona. I guess NM has some more Colorado like mountains with aspen trees and the like compared to Arizona and is less hot. It also feels like more of a hidden gem compared to Arizona and Colorado for example

>>2840545
New York is so joylessly authoritarian and crowded it makes it hard to enjoy it. You go into a town and the speed limits are super low and change every 1000 ft.

i've always been a fan of NM, especially the southern half

>>2840545
3/5 not bad bait

>>2838448
>I'm deeply Arizona pilled
Ditto.

>>2839052
Titty Hill or Nipple Butte?

>>2840545
>New York

>>2840945
>all of New York is Manhattan
Yes, NY is a great /out/ state
t. TXfag

I hate this goddamned shithole state so fucking much

I hope this entire state is annihilated by a fucking meteor
new mexico is a fucking SHITHOLE filled with fucking RETARDED ASSHOLES

>>2838028
Which one of us?

>>2838012 (OP)
Montana, Arizona, Oregon, Colorado, Maine, Arkansas, the entire Appalachian region of the east, hell I'll even throw in western Canada. Pretty much everything out paces NM.

Nm sucks, dont ever come here

>>2838012 (OP)
Maine is nice if u like slipping and cracking your skull on ice.

NM is ok but the state is no where near the best not even in the southwest not even in the four corners Utah, Arizona, and Colorado are way better

why does literally everyone in NM horde burned up and clapped out campers/winnebagos

90% of people that live here live in a trailer surrounded by garbage with 8 broken down winnebagos in their yard
its so fucking weird

>>2841503
So we can break bad

>>2841097
Pretty much this. Any state really, mogs the shit out of NM.

Yup, New Mexico is best, go there, stay tf outta my state

>>2838311
Can you red pill me on AZ? I just applied for a job in Phoenix because they’re expanding my market there. I am from Kansas and like hunting (especially for birds), camping, hiking, and four wheeling. I know they have quail and mountains which is based but how big of a pain in the ass is it to get tags for big game? How crowded are the trails? I’m assuming I can shoot on BLM land correct?

>>2838072
I moved from MN to be closer to family. Used to live in Tucson for a few years. I agree.

>>2838739
>>2838449
I'm in Albuquerque now and the similarities are shocking.

>>2840963
This is also correct.

I took this picture on a trail 15 minutes from my place. I enjoy the access to the outdoors.

>>2841503
Don't forget the old 50s and 60s busses. In 30 minutes south of Albuquerque in a clean and quiet town. If I drive 20 minutes south into the desert by the Manzano Moutains it's a complete 3rd world country. Old rvs connected to each other like extra rooms, old busses, burned out house ruins. Id be surprised if they even had running water. Rural poverty is wild

>>2842346
>nooo people can't just live in what are likely better conditions than they did 100 years ago in the same area

>>2838012 (OP)
If you're really, really into rocks, it's up there
Otherwise, I don't really get it
Trying to uncover abandoned experiments?

The northern parts of Minnesota and Georgia are great, but Georgia's better.

>>2842191
>I just applied for a job in Phoenix because they’re expanding my market there
REEEEEEEE
But anyway. Trails are crowded during peak seasons and if life forces you to be a weekend warrior, but there's plenty of quiet if you get out and explore. BLM land is hype. Go ahead and shoot. Please clean up your brass and shells. I don't really hunt so I can't answer the other question.

>>2838012 (OP)
Oregon is right there.

>>2842743
>state that tried to ban hunting
Miss me with that bullshit, fampai.

>>2842802
>state
it wasnt the state. it was some people in the state. and it failed miserably. didnt even make the ballot.

>>2838012 (OP)
Sorry but the Democratic People's Republic of California is the best. We have everything. Mountains, beaches, deserts, forests, and everything else a civilized society needs.

>>2842841
Too much peepo

>>2842841
The more I've traveled the US, the more I've started to see California as the stereotypical "jack of all trades, master of none" state. It has deserts, but it doesn't have the best deserts. In fact... California's deserts are pretty awful. It has alpine mountains, but it doesn't have the best alpine mountains and other states have more unrestricted, more accessible, more diverse, more plentiful mountainous areas. It has several national parks... but so do other states. It has a coast, but Oregon and Washington have the better coast. It has the redwoods, but the rainforest in Washington is just better than that. It has Lassen, which is like a poor man's version of Yellowstone. It has Death Valley, which is just a more populated version of the Virgin Valley. Yeah, you can ski at multiple hills in California but the quality of skiing in Wyoming, Vermont, Utah, and Washington is just better.
The biggest claim to fame I've heard from Californian outdoorsmen is that you can surf and ski in the same day but... you can do that in Washington, Maine, New York, New Hampshire, Hawaii. California desperately wants to be the best /out/ state but it just isn't quite there.

>>2842841
Too bad about your people. It really is abundant in beautiful nature.

>>2842881
>but Oregon and Washington have the better coast.
i've been all up and down the coasts of all 3 states and do not find that to be a factual statement

>>2842881
The beaches are unquestionably the best.
>>2842898
This guy knows...

>>2838012 (OP)
Are we not counting the backwoods of Yellowstone here? Montana can't be slept on that easily man...

>>2838012 (OP)
Kansas

>>2838031
California and Nevada have lots of forests which are not patrolled too much. Also have you been around northern Nevada, some of those forests and reserves there? True remoteness, nobody goes there

>>2842881
California
>mountains
Only sierra nevadas are worth shit here, everything else is weekend camp for Labor Day tier like big bear. Sierra nevadas have lots of east-west highways which can provide access to lesser visited trails and locations. Overall several states do mountains better. Maybe other states are more for the true “get lost” type of mountaineer versus California being more easily navigable and accessible
>beaches
Best in the country besides Hawaii. Florida is better for swimming, but the beauty of NorCal’s coast combined with socals swimming weather makes the California coast number 1. Washington and Oregon are a close second but they don’t have that socal weather. Gloomy beaches are only so fun
>desert
Underrated, lots of cool places like Anza Borrego, Lee Vining, Trona. Although naturally Arizona, Utah, and New Mexico are all better. Nevada is beautiful more for its vastness.
Yeah saying it’s a jack of all trades might be accurate desu, although having so much cool shit in one place still makes it the best place to live.

>>2843026
>Only sierra nevadas are worth shit here,
Tell me you never been north of I-80 without telling me. The Trinity Alps, the southern Cascades, teh Kings range on the coast are all worth "shit" you ignorant tard

>>2843048
Very nice, but where's the wilderness?

>>2839052
Tetilla Peak

>>2842881
>you can surf and ski in the same day
It's basically bullshit anyway. Might be doable if there was nobody else on the road but it'd be insane to try with the traffic that actually exists, it's a 3-4 hour drive minimum between Big Bear and any beach unless you get incredibly lucky. That doesn't account for the fact that you probably won't live near either as well so you have to add the time from home to Big Bear and then to the beach or vice versa. I guess it might be slightly more doable on the rare occasions that Mt. Baldy is turning lifts but even so you'd have to be a masochist to try.

>>2843330
You were not meant to take that so literally anon. Its a think that is possible that points to the ability to do such different things in the same area. Its not people ever actually want to do both in one day.

New Mexico is the Bestico

>>2842881
Eastern Sierra are spectacular

>>2838448
>nothing on earth as beautiful as the low Sonoran Desert
Is it your pic related? Because if that's the most beautiful thing on Earth to you, damn

Stop talking about NM, just go to CO or AZ

>>2838012 (OP)
Literally any state is better. Why is this thread still up?

>>2842841
If we could hunt the Chinese tourists it really would be amazing. until then WA is the best cause people dont bat an eye when Zhao Xing or a random pajeet goes missing in Olympic.

>>2842346
I was pretty shocked when I drove through CO for the first time this year and many places looked just as fucked up as NM, especially on the front range which is supposed to be the 'real Colorado'

AZ and UT seemed to have much less blight.

>>2843523
More than the restico?

>>2842346
Meadowlake? Lol

New Mexico is far too rugged for the gentile crowd here. They need nice homes and infrastructure

>>2845530
>gentile
Obviously the Jews are happy to live in shacks.

>>2845591
ur mom was a genteel

It's at the bottom of the southwest so it's still top tier.

>>2840945
Adirondacks are pretty amazing
I live in Vermont and I'd never bothered to go there until a couple weeks ago
I was surprised how nice it is and how the landscape is more extreme than Vermont

>>2840945
that poor guy

Truly the land of enchantment. People are caching on sadly and there has been a large increase of Californians and Texans coming here. Can tell just by the increase number of license plates from those places as well as how they are buying property left and right that the average New Mexican can't afford.

>>2846756
its getting gentiry

>>2846756
The average new mexican is an uneducated shiteating drunken asshole

WORTHLESS I FIUND A FINE SWAZH WORTHLESS

>>2847809
And you clearly have such class

>>2847831
I live in New Mexico lmao

>>2847833
So you're a drunk retard?

>>2847835
do you like fish sticks?

>>2838028
AZ is on another level, almost Alaska-tier. There's good hiking in Phoenix itself and if you live on the edges of the valley or in a rural place, there are dozens of climate zones and terrain types within a few hour's drive. It's really incredible.
>>2842191
>how big of a pain in the ass is it to get tags for big game?
$13 per entry into the draw, availability depends on hunt unit, harvest limits and applicants.
>t. reliably draw tags but suck at hunting

As a europoor that spent 8 months this year working in NM, I thought it was pretty cool.
Got shipped home the week before I was planning to go up to Taos but I was up in the Sandias pretty much every Saturday.
Once you started early and overtook the few fuckers near the bottom of the trails you could easily walk for 20 miles and see hardly any people besides the odd cunt that took the cable car up to waddle down.

Weather was pretty hot compared to home but the low humidity meant sweat was sucked off me pretty much as soon as it left my body.

It was weird being surrounded by the smell of pine in sunny 35C weather.

Went up Ladron peak a few times as well and that was a decent challenge, especially before I acclimatised to the altitude.

Took pic related from the summit.

Probably be back in the states in February but looks like I'll be heading for Austin.
As far as I can tell Texas is just a big flat load of nothing but if anyone can recommend anything around there to do.

>>2838012 (OP)
Too close to Mexico. WA State isn't bad as long as you're not engaging with the politicians in Olympia. The entire state is a big forest that runs through a mountain range.

>>2848006
check out big bend