Thread 2839180

>having a look at white sands national park
>look slightly north
>White Sands missile range
Most American shit I've ever seen. A fucking military missile range in a national park.

>>2839180 (OP)
It had been a nuclear testing site for nearly 70 years before it was a national park

>>2839180 (OP)
And yet you still want to go there.

Obsessed.

>>2839180 (OP)
It's actually the other way around. The park is completely surrounded by the missile range. A national park inside a missile range. That's the most American shit you've ever seen.

>>2839180 (OP)
What's the big deal?

>>2839194
bold of you to assume i'd go to NM over California

It's not like they picked that area on purpose to launch missiles, the ayys made them pick that place so they could hide there.

>>2839180 (OP)
The 4 corners states have the highest density of deep spooky military activity and sites and sightings. The mountains near white sands also have spook facilities. Arizona has more active fighter jets than France with 1/9th the population and AZ also manufactured every single AH64 kit that the UK currently operates now and previously operated (some 140 helis in total). Tomahawks are also made in AZ. New Mexico and separately Washington state, both individually would be the 2nd most nuclear armed nations on Earth if they became their own countries hypothetically, as they each have around 2,000 nuclear warheads, each. Nevada actually does not have hardly any nukes, it was just the general shithole that the military nuked because no one gives a shit about a mars like landscape, so NV got nukes about 900 times. UT and CO also get spookier than NV by number and types of facilities.

>>2839252
I'll image dump some overlap between USA mil activity and USA outdoor landscapes. I used to post in the /wg/ mil threads for the better part of decade so I have thousands of saved up pics. One of the hottest spots in the world for military and civilian aviation training both heli and fixed wing is actually the mordor corridor in Arizona. Pilots from 4 dozen plus countries train in those shitholes around Phoenix and Tucson, occasionally flying over the wilderness in the north. The total variety of aircraft to fly or be housed in AZ is mind boggling, almost every single US military aircraft since the 1920s, all branches. Lesser known however is that there are thousands of pilot reported unusual small high altitude high speed drones reported from AZ every year as well, the spooky boys. Military pilots take pictures of them and report them so they don't even know wtf is going on at those levels.

Original engine Fw-190, donated from eastern Europe after the fall of the USSR and restored to flight in Arizona (some youtube vids of it flying), flew many shows in the PNW later. The original Fw engines are deep and guttural sounding.

Bongs (on the right).

Frogs.

Hans.

Tank to break up aviation monotony. Almost done.

Couldn't find a rare raw 8 min test flight vid of an AH64, they like to test run them over the desert rivers here. If I find it later I'll post it.

And to end it. The Spookiest boy that spooks the (outclassed) spooky boys.

>>2839276
Found the damn vid. Jewtube really burried it. It is flying over the lower Gila river in Arizona before all the farmers suck it dry in the valley. And the Gila river is the worst of the central AZ rivers for /out/ IMO, I've outed all of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJsIBN31ezM

>>2839260
Same plane. Some people don't like that it was restored with the full swastika, I say fuckem. It's period correct, exactly as the Poles and Russians would have seen and heard it as it flew over. It didn't actually see much service before crashing anyway.

https://youtu.be/ef_p_ph2aeQ

https://youtu.be/9tLXS6y819Q

>>2839180 (OP)
What's even the appeal of hiking in sand dunes? I went to the sand dunes NP in colorado one time and ended up ruining my shoes since the sand found every tiny hole possible to fill my shoe in with.

>>2839266
>>2839270
>>2839273

>>2839318
>walking in sand
>not wearing SANDals
ishygddt

>>2839318
I find them quite beautiful, and for most people it's a rare and unusual landscape so it's cool to see. It can also be fun to play on them, you could sandboard but even just running down them is pretty fun.
>>2840156
my mind is blown, though apparently that's not actually the etymology.

>>2840156
Why the fuck would you wear sandals when walking in sand? The sand abrades the shit out of your feet where they rub against your sandals.
>>2839318
Go barefoot.
>>2839199
New Mexico is perfect if you hate being around crowds of mutt NPC tourists - unlike California. Santa Fe and Taos are the only tourist-ridden places in the whole state.

>>2840227
Good, it might do something for my calluses

I love that area. The sacramento mts, sierra blanca. Lincoln NF, ruidoso, cloudcroft, billy the kid country.

But our state has "mexico" in its name, so stay away pls

>>2839252
Yep.
NM reporting in with:
LANL
SNL
KUMSC
DNWS
DoE Secure Transport & airfleet
WSMR
RATSCAT
Starfire Optical Range
Z Machine
North Oscura Peak
DoD CCM

>>2839182
>It had been a nuclear testing site for nearly 70 years before it was a national park
White Sands NM Is NOT Trinity Site, which was a total of ONE above ground detonation. Southern Nevada had far more. Hell, Japan had 100% more above ground detontions that New Mexico.

>>2839196
The "sand" at White Sands isn't sand at all, it's shells of tiny sea creatures called diatoms, making diatomacious earth. Also protected, like if you accidentally get some in your pockets sand surfing the dunes (a thing), the rangers WILL bust you.

>>2840727
NM had 3 tests. Trinity, Gasbuggy and Gnome

>>2839277
based

>>2840699
based knower

>>2840728
What the fuck retard

the sand is gypsum

>>2840728
The fuck lil' ranger gonna do?

The only place where I got a light sunburn during winter in the afternoon. Worth it.

White Sands is nice, but the type of sand that it is will literally get stuck to everything. Your tires will have it caked on for weeks, it'll be annoying to get off your shoes. It's just not fun.

Gotta love how there's literally a border partol checkpoint right outside the entrance kek

>>2840783
Reported.

>>2841382
Lmao! That's so epic how there's border control in a border state
So epic holy shit

>>2841382
Never been in a border state before? Lol

>>2841394
>>2841432
I live in upstate NY and there are no checkpoints randomly 60mi in from the Canadian border lmao. In fact i've never seen a border checkpoint randomly inland in any of the northern states beyond the actual border line itself. You guys live i n a dystopia down there having to go through border checkpoints that far inland.

>>2840699
All that cool stuff just to get replaced by low IQ blacks and being destroyed from the inside. I'm not even rage baiting I feel bad for your country

>>2841435
>some jew yorker doesn't know what its like dealing with mexicans

Ain't that just peachy for you, sweetcheeks

You wouldnt last 5 minutes down here

>>2839180 (OP)
So are citizens allowed to test their missiles at the missile range as well? Or is only the government allowed to do that?

>>2839200
Ackshually, US missile base location is part of strategic defense planning. By placing them in remote areas, it forces an attacker to allocate resources specifically to neutralizing the bases. This means fewer warheads aimed at population centers, and the enemy will need to allocate a disproportionately sized number of warheads to destroying each base to ensure something gets through anti-missile defenses. Repeat this for every missile base on the continent, and an enemy nuclear first strike has to be spread out and rendered less effective.

>>2841560
Youre joking but there are test ranges for civilian rockets "Model" rockets that are supersonic (record is 143km altitude set by University of Southern California students).

>>2839180 (OP)
the range and base are around the natl park, not in it

go a little further and you'll find the Trinity Site, ground zero where the first nuclear device was detonated in human history (open to the public only 2 days out of the year)

- t. have been to ground zero and have a bag full of trinitite