Thread 2840978

I'm looking for a good all around camp axe for fire wood maybe some tent pegs and also general cutting. Should I better look for a specific brand or anything will do just fine?

>>2840978 (OP)
Fiskars

>>2840978 (OP)
People seem to like Gransfors Bruk axes.

>>2840978 (OP)
I speak for all of /out/
the official camp axe is actually going outside and realizing you don't need one

>>2840994
based and primitive technology pilled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN-34JfUrHY

I’ve had one of these for about 15 years and it’s great. Head does get a little loose with heavy use. Light. Feels right. Swings like a dream and take an edge.

>>2841006
Dammit wrong pic that’s the hatchet. DONT GET THE HATCHET ITS DILDOS!

>>2840978 (OP)
Silky Big Boy, your boot and a Mora Companion.

>>2840978 (OP)
I'll just leave this here....

>>2841015
Yeah, I had the saved from /k/, but forgot about it because it's a total gimic as a simgle shot. Make me a repeater, but by then, just get a splitter.

>>2840978 (OP)
Lets try this link
https://www.maxwarehouse.com/products/collins-boys-axe-drop-forged-heat-treated-2-1-4-lb-hickory-28
Again, you can cut a third of the handle off if it suits you better.

>>2840978 (OP)
Literally any axe with a wood handle will work. A good axe will work better, but afaik, no one makes good axes anymore - gransfors and hultafors are overpriced meme shit that's no better than what you get at the hardwarestore, "professional" axes like from Ochsenkopf, for example, are the same thing except they can justify their price with official tests (that you don't need unless youre a professional user and your insurance or employer demands them), fiskars is worse (mostly due to the fiberglass handle not dampening impacts, and tending to break in cold weather).

If you know what you're looking for, you can get good axes at flea markets and such, but for new production, just get the cheapest axe that has a tempered blade (all but the cheapest temu ones do) and a wooden handle.

>inb4 shills claim their specific brand of axe is magically superior

>>2841032
This guy is right, my very best axe is some 4,50 dollar from some thrift store, probably made in the 1960's.
Disagree about hultafors; they're overpriced but in my opinion they swing really well, perfect fucking balance. But once again enough old, cheap axes that do the same thing.
The shittiest wood handled axe swings better than the best steel-handled axe btw, don't go for steel if it's comfort you're after.
You should definitely get something a little longer than a hatchet, and store it somewhere on the outside of your pack. Hatchets are fun but kind of useless, machetes outperform them and have more uses.

OP learning how to replace heads, make new handles and sharpen your blade properly not only saves you tons of money, it beats having an expensive axe at all; you can have a custom-forged job and still fuck it because you're not able to maintain it properly.
Same goes for ALL knives but /out/ is not ready for that discussion on weekdays.

>>2840979
handle brake too easy
>>2840994
also this

>>2841135
>handle brake too easy
>meme
Post the handle YOU broke.

>>2840994
That's true but they're still fun.

>>2841177
>first time working in the forest
>midwinter, felling trees
>buddy working on a tree ~40m away is driving in wedges with the back of his fiskars "felling" axe
>head goes flying off, misses me by around a metre
>turns out plastic doesn't deal well with cold

>"hurrduurrr, if you didn't break one yourself, it doesn't count"

>>2841135
>too easy
>>2841198
I've got 3 similar stories about wood handles. So..?

>>2841199
>I've got 3 similar stories about wood handles. So..?
Well then, anon, post pics of a wooden handle YOU broke... Or do you only expect proof from people calling out fiskars?

But either way, even if wooden handles were just as bad as plastic, the simple fact that you can repair them yourself, and get wooden-handled axes for half the price of muhfiskars would already make them worth it.
Besides, I'd rather trust a wooden handle I made, than some piece of plastic a chink glued in.

Sigh oh look this thread again.
Fiskars is garbage. Go sew a quilt if you want to use fiskars. They’re an old lady scissor brand not an axe company.

>>2841214
What you think about Gerber

>>2841198
>if you didn't break one yourself, it doesn't count
The logic here is uncontestable.

>>2841380
Belongs in a scifi movie killing aliens.

>>2840994
It’s not about needing one.

>>2841380
I didn’t know they existed but I fell for the Gerber pocket knife trick and won’t be wasting my money on that brand ever again.
I really like the design of the folders but I’ve broken like 3 tips off knife with zero effort.
TLDR- Baby axe by a baby food company. 100 percent will shatter.

>>2841427
It's not the same company

>>2841206
>>2841214
Romanticize the past all you want. The simple fact is that wood will absorb moisture from the environment and change shape. If you want to make the case that a grfn handle will break in -32' if you drive your car over it, OK. Wooden handles break under the same, mysterious, one-in-a-million circumstances you imagine. It still remains that wooden handles loosen up over time and require the maintenance you romanticize.

>>2841507
It’s not about romanticizing the past at all. The fact of the matter is that wood or plastic the handle is going to break at some point and I’d rather be able to just fix it myself

I really hate you fucking larpers that destroy forests and cut down trees just so you can pretend to be real survivalists

>>2841611
also before one of you autists say "just use downed trees" you're literally destroying ecosystems used by animals and bugs. You're as bad as cairn fags that take rocks and stack them everywhere

>>2841611
Get a grip. Go get upset about a real issue. How about all the Mexicans cutting down cords of wood every weekend? Tell it to a lumber company, or mining, or oil, or gas.

White people cutting down one tree, if that, while camping, is not going to do anything.

Silly fool.

>>2840978 (OP)
Depends. there are different sized axes for different kinds of work. if you plan on doing smaller work like tent pegs, clearing bark, and processing kindling, then clearly a hatchet. depending on how much chopping you are doing a medium or large. i think a medium like a hudson bay and larger for felling. you probably want the hatchet and a hudson bay

are you just allowed to carry axes and machetes around

>>2842058
yes, as long as you notify your local police department beforehand or if you're with a licensed supervisor when you have it.

>>2842058
Depends on where you are and what you're doing. The cops decide what is a weapon vs. a tool where I live. If I am walking through the forest with an axe, then I won't have a problem, but if I'm walking down main street in my underwear with an axe then I will have a problem.

>>2841507
>The simple fact is that wood will absorb moisture from the environment and change shape.
Yeah, that's what oil once a year is for.

>>2841611
>>2841612
I invite you to come to my land and tell me to my face to stop using the trees I own to heat my house in the winter.

>>2841612
You can't live in modern society without extracting resources from the earth. If you aren't using wood/paper you're using some sort of petroleum product in its place, which is far worse for the environment in the grand scheme of things.

>>2842150
You’re not camping.

>>2840978 (OP)
Assuming you are backpacking or doing a paddle and portage trip and you just want something to help you collect 2-3 inch sticks and split collected sticks to get to the dryer wood inside/increase surface area, a Fiskars x5 or x7 are perfectly functional and as light as you’ll find at a normal hardware store or camping store. Otherwise a Hults Bruks Ajeson or Hultan are roughly similar to the two mentioned Fiskars, but more traditional in construction. The real lightweight hack is to get a 12 oz drywall hatchet, and reprofile the head back behind the exposure stop holes and then shorten the handle.

If you are river paddling or staying close to your car, I really like a boys axe or Council Tools Woodcrafter. I use the Woodcrafter for collecting and processing the wood I use when boiling my syrup each spring.

>>2842199
Says you, I hike a few days into my land to camp at least one week a month.

>>2842432
>I hike a few days into my land to camp at least one week a month.
So are you /out/ two weeks a month or do you hike
> a few days in
and therefore
> a few days out
over the course of a week and you heat a house with the wood you cut and remove while doing this?

At least have the decency to lie in a consistent manner you larping faggot.

>>2842148
The head loosens over time. Don't pretend you don't know this.

>>2842441
I hike a loop and camp when it gets dark, usually takes 4-5 days. During this I mark trees to fell in the autumn and drive my log truck out to get them.

>>2842443
>hammer wedge
Wow, so hard, such a huge inconvenience that makes me want to use cheap walmart axes with cast heads and flimsy plastic handles.

>>2842445
So you aren't collecting with an axe, just using it in place of a can of spraypaint?

You can build a nice campfire with pic related. There's no need to carry a heavy, expensive axe.

>>2842536
Kino as fuck desu

>>2842536
Sir, that saw is ridiculous.

>>2842536
You had me at Japanese professional grade.

Any axe will do as long as you know how to use it.
These old resin men can take a tree down without sweating.
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=I_X5NCW3SAM

>>2842758
But could they chop down the largest tree in the forest with a herring?

>>2842447
I use my axe more than I use a chainsaw.
Many times I don't even bring the chainsaw to fell and prepare the trees, I prefer the quiet.

>>2841015
he made a mk2 but it's a complete fail lol

https://youtu.be/vICU4PTPbuo?si=EMF_jdjTQ4_pqkkV

>>2840978 (OP)
I've had the same axe head for 22 years, found it in the diet when I was a kid, sharpen it when it needs, replace handle when it needs. It's fucking axe you retard. Cave man tech

>>2840978 (OP)
Tomahawk since it's light, heya hoya

Rate my $7.59 genuine homosexual lumberjack artisan axe. I plan to burn Hoeltefurs logo into its handle to make it more valuable for the future generations

>>2840978 (OP)
Granfors bruks small forest axe tends to he good, small enough to carry around, light, is decent for processing medium size fireword. You can fell trees with it, but the large forest axe is definitely better for such, but with the length you lose out on the perks of the small forest axe. You really have to ask yourself what youre gonna use it for. As many in this thread has already mentioned, you *rarely* actually need an axe, even when you think you might need one. I personally carry a beefy seax in 3v, which tends to do most wood processing well, without having to carry a 1kg axe with me.

>>2841015
i assume hundreds of ppl die each year from the recoil into the forehead

lmao just go to the farm supply store and get an axe bro

>>2840978 (OP)
I have trouble finding a use for an axe or hatchet.

I hiked the AT a few years ago and had a campfire almost every night, in the northern section i found that many pine tree saplings will grow around each other but only 1 or 2 will actually root, and the others are standing, but dead and dry. These dead saplings can be pushed and pulled and then pulled out of the ground with little effort. Then you can find 2 trees very close to each other and use them as a vise, lay the sapling between these 2 trunks and bend until it breaks, over and over until it is suitable for firewood. This whole process takes about 20 minutes for 2-3 saplings, more than enough firewood for a long night.

>>2844483
Dude we get it you’re trans.

>>2844492
I'm not mentally well but trying to share what i learned.

I miss when out threads where on night time /k/

>>2844494
I was just giving you the shit test fella. I get ya weight matters on a long ass hike and you sound resourceful.
Would recommend investing in >>2842536
or a cheaper lightweight alternative.
A nice folding saw is worth far more than it’s weight in gold.

>>2844496

You made me laugh so you're cool with me bud.

I agree a folding saw is more useful.

Are you a pussy if you put a collar on a hatchet or axe?

>>2844496
t. daytripper larpist
Let me guess, a hatchet is too heavy for your poor widdle awms

>>2844504

The hatchet is for larping buddy

>>2844504
Yeah that’s the problem retard.
I was saying for a long hike it’s a better idea to have a folding saw.
A hatchet it fucking useless.
Someone’s soiboy arms too weak to even tote a camp axe >>2841007
like I said.
Dildos.

>>2844507
>this tool that people have used for thousands of years is larping!
Sorry you aren't strong enough to carry an extra pound or two so you can build a proper fire.

>>2844508
>a hatchet is useless because I'm too weak to split wood with it!
Say you're a larper basedlighter without saying it.

>>2844511
Different people like different tools, don't get so booty hurt just because I don't have a use for a hatchet.

Shit where i live a Machete would be more useful than a saw or hatchet

>>2844520
>it's a useless toy for larpers!
>no you don't get it I just don't want to use it

I carry a billhook, folding saw, and german style hatchet on every trip, because every trip is a week or longer and every tool carries its own weight.

>>2844537
You can read this post
>>2844483
and see why i choose to only carry a knife

Are you chopping down trees? or do you use it to split trunks? also what part of the world are you in? I have a hatchet i never use, but i've only camped on the eastern side of the USA, so i'd like to know why it's worth the extra weight.

and yes i am a faggot ultralighter, i bought a sewing machine to make my own quilts for hammock camping.

>>2844619
>I have a hatchet i never use, but i've only camped on the eastern side of the USA, so i'd like to know why it's worth the extra weight.
Making fires using more than sticks is more than worth it, but you probably rely on a jetboil or some shit.

I just moved to a place with a wood stove, and I realized I didn't have one once the cold weather rolled in. I did zero research and grabbed the cheapest hatchet my local market had (I get an employee discount)
I didn't realize how fucking close to the head you gotta hold it but I'm getting the hang of it. Got my first fire going without a starter log now that I can cut tinder.