Thread 2841317

but I actually want to do economically meaningful activities on it.
Must be at least 25 acres and have a water source.
Pls halp.

>>2841317 (OP)
are you retarded

>>2841317 (OP)
you're not gonna find what you looking for. you dont need to buy land to go outside. if you live in the west go in any direction for 10 miles and you'll run into public land, and if your deal is you don't want to be around people so much of it is entirely isolated for miles no trails no roads, you don't need to spend 500,000+ to go outside. if your out east and want land that you can do , "economically meaningful activities on " that property is gonna be just as if not more expensive then out west and have neighbors on all sides

>>2841335
he's looking for advice on /out/, so...

>>2841335
>are you retarded
To a certain extent.
NGL I would like some land but I need to know how to buy it and what to look out for.
I noticed that nearly all property one can find listed publicly is sized in area such that nearly all sales require an up-front investment in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, which is fucked. How does a person buy anything without taking out a loan or something else drastically reckless?

>>2841317 (OP)
>but I actually want to do economically meaningful activities on it.
Can't have your cake and eat it. Anything that will actually make a decent amount of money for you will require lots of time and work that will destroy the nature (intensive farming, building and renting out homes).

You can do some small scale stuff like a hybrid chestnut grove or exotic berries like haskap but that won't make that much money. And you can't just leave it alone because nature will take over extremely quickly without regular maintence.

>>2841346
>How does a person buy anything without taking out a loan or something else drastically reckless?
haha yeah

Honestly, with land and self-employment (and presumably also a house to live in) comes a bunch of work.
I had much more time and energy to go out when I just rented a little box, and my only professional worry as a toiler was to show up to work on time.
Not saying it's an exclusively bad idea, but you do want to know what you're getting into

>>2841317 (OP)
There are recreational properties available out there, they're usually cheaper by acre because you can't build on them, but you also usually have to buy a large parcel. They don't usually have road access either.

I've been looking at land in thirdie countries like Zimbabwe recently, some pretty nice packages for like $13,000 for 1000m2, apart from probably having to arm myself to the teeth if I decided to actually use the land is this a good deal?

>>2841458
Lol

>>2841458
Dude what??
$13k for a quarter acre in fucking Zimbabwe?
I bought 15 acres for $47k last year.
Landandfarm.com
Landsofamerica.com

>>2841317 (OP)
>25 acres
>water source
>cheap
Pick one and only one.

>>2841377
Uh you can grow or synthesize drugs on your land then sell it on a Tor marketplace.

>>2841317 (OP)
Find a nice spot, find the owner, kill them. Repeat with each new owner and scatter spooky stuff on the property until blackrock outbids you and you gotta start over

You'll find cheaper deals on land (in the USA) if you search on fb marketplace or Craigslist. Sellers usually post there, vs. realtors that post for over market value on Zillow, realtor.com etc. similar to buying a car from owner vs a dealership.

>>2842054
>You'll find cheaper deals on land (in the USA) if you search on fb marketplace or Craigslist
I keep trying to do that but it seems sus, as in, why aren't the neighbors trying to buy it as soon as it comes on the market? What do they know about the property, that I don't, that makes them not want to buy, considering the easiest way to increase the value of land holdings is to buy adjacent land to make it bigger.

>>2841555
>grow or synthesize drugs on your land
That makes it a target for criminal forfeiture if the prosecutor can make the case that the ownership of the land constructively served towards the criminal enterprise.

>>2841337
I live in bay area I think the closest public lands is like 2 hours drive from here. Also are they safe to go to?

>>2842838
>hours away
What the fuck, what side of the Bay do you live on? Sacramento? The bay is surrounded by hills that are all public land

>>2841346
>I would like some land but I need to know how to buy it
Go see a realtor.

>>2841530
>Landandfarm.com
This isna gold mine! Just look at the title property on the splash page.
>$26.5M
Oh, well there's that.

>>2842859
>seller paid extra for front page advertisement of 1,900 acres on a lake and anon is surprised at the cost.
Why dont you actually try searching the site (?)

>>2842854
San Jose. Sacramento is not a bay area. Yes the hills are nice around here but it's not public lands.

>>2842854
I think there are some apps with public land maps.

>>2842873
no shit, I was being sarcastic

There's tons of public lands around the bay

>>2842873
>San Jose
>Yes the hills are nice around here but it's not public lands

You're a fucking retard. All the dark green shaded areas are public land.

https://www.openspace.org/

>>2842891
It's all a state park I think it's not BLM.

>>2842906
>it's not BLM.
>BLM is the only type of public land
So...you really are retarded. There is a ton of public land on the peninsula a short distance from San Jose. What about that dont you understand?

picrel is 14 miles from downtown San Jose.

>>2842912
You can't camp there.

>>2842921
You went from
>there is no public land
to
>its not BLM
and now
>you cant camp there
lol. moving the goalposts seems like a familiar cope to you.

Its true you cant camp in that particular parcel of public land but there are places all over santa clara county where you can camp. There are numerous state parks within an hours drive of San Jose where you can camp- Butano, Big Basin Redwoods, Ano Nuevo etc...

Have you ever looked at a map? are you being purposely obstinate or are you indeed truly a retard? please answer this question

>>2842925
Those are all private or state camping grounds where they make you pay and have rules. It's not really public as opposed to federal land. By your logic you can just chill on sidewalk because it's le public too.

>>2842936
>Those are all private
no. none of them are.
>state camping ground
also known as PUBLIC land.
>they make you pay and have rules
oh the horror.

>didnt answer the question

You made a claim. it was demonstrably false. Every reply since has been cope. I hope you're proud of yourself.

>>2842963
You can only camp on designated camp spots. You can't just walk on that land and start a camp fire and put up a tent.

>>2842968
You made a claim. It was false. move on.

>>2843046
Ok you win your just like Trump. So what can you do on that public land?

>>2843089
>So what can you do on that public land?
camp

>>2843094
>camp
On 1% of that land maybe. Can certainly follow that trail with other normies.

>>2843115
>still coping
lol

>>2841317 (OP)
Some people contact the heirs of people who have died but don't know their entitled to land, then offer them a price significantly below market rate. sometimes they take it cause they don't want to deal with selling the property themselves

>>2843118
Yes I'm fucking coping because that "public land" is there only to look at and walk their stupid trail with a bunch of fucking boomers.

>>2843123
stupid gen z thinking their opinions matter
>in 5 years that lands going to be sold to pay for boomer social security checks

>>2841398
If you rent a little box it usually means you have to live around browns.

>>2843123
you need to get /out more and stop being a whiny little bitch

>>2843132
:/

>>2843138
Perhaps you might rent a box, maybe even a bigger box, outside of the brown areas?
I don't often see many brown people, and the ones I do see are keeping me in chole bhature and spring rolls, and sometimes the pizzaturk, so as far as I'm concerned they're alright.

>>2841317 (OP)
Landwatch.com

>>2842838
If you want to camp for free, BLM land is really your only option in most of California.

>Also are they safe to go to?
Now that is the question isn't it. You can legally camp on BLM land for 14 days. So Homeless will sometimes set up camp on BLM land and hope they don't get kicked out like they will in the city(my city anyway, Shasta county not bay area) That said, I camp along the Sacramento River several times a year and have never had a problem. I almost never even see anyone else that's not in my group. And that's the second point, I always go down the river and camp in a group. I don't think I'd do it alone. I've almost been jumped at rest stops along I5 twice, I'm just glad I ccw and they ran when I reached. California is not a safe state...

>>2843253
Yeah I think the closest one to me is by Yuba. A buddy of mine went there camping but he had a shotgun with him in his car and he had some friends living in that area so they probably hung out with him. I was thinking about going there by myself but I'm nogunz so probably not a good idea. Is that camping group your friends or just some random people that got together over Facebook?

>>2843267
>Is that camping group your friends or just some random people that got together over Facebook?
They're all friends or friends of friends.

>>2843210
>Perhaps you might rent a box, maybe even a bigger box, outside of the brown areas?
Then it costs more.
I'd rather own my own home and land than fork over money to some shitbag (((landlord))) every month. Renting is like burning money. At least with land and a house, you can get the money you paid for it back if you sell it. You might even make more than you paid.

>>2843271
So if I ever decide to go there I should probably stick somewhere near to a group of people to be safe. Or go deeper into the woods because I don't think fucktards that jump random people will be far from a road. Need some kind of a navigation though.

>>2843253
>California is not a safe state
>have never had a problem
lol

>>2843531
You missed

>I've almost been jumped at rest stops along I5 twice, I'm just glad I ccw and they ran when I reached
>I always go down the river and camp in a group

try harder next time

>>2841317 (OP)
A friend of mine bought 30 acres in Western Colorado for about $40k and has started building a cabin out there.
The land is terrible, but you’re not going to find good land for cheap.

>>2843588
If it has a road access and neighbors are not retarded it's fine.