Thread 2843302

I can’t get past this point on the trail. It’s like a 3 or 4 meter foot vertical drop with nothing to grab onto but the rope. I tried to do the thing where you put your feet on the wall and go down backwards but they slipped on the rocks and I only managed to keep myself from falling by holding hold onto the rope with pure panic strength, then I turned back.

Is it simply a skill issue or is there a technique to it? I’m also usually the only one on the trail, so I’ve never seen anyone else do it either.

>>2843302 (OP)
Go around and find an easier way. I wouldn't trust that dead branch with my life.

>>2843304
I looked for other ways around but didn’t find any. The trail is on sort of a mountain ridge with a pretty steep drop on both sides. But the rope is actually two ropes tied together with the second one tied to a sturdier tree behind it. I don’t know if it would still hold together if the branch broke but it did at least hold my body weight the time I tried it

>>2843302 (OP)
it's good that you don't know how to get down because it means you wouldn't know how to get back up either

>>2843315
That's a question for the next thread bozo

>>2843302 (OP)
The only way to do such a thing is to commit your full weight to the rope over the edge and just use feet on the wall for balance. You slipped because you tried to keep weight on your feet. If you dont trust the rope setup bring your own and tie a new one. If you brought longer rope you could wrap rope around yourself to use your body as friction to body rappel down to make it more steady and controlled too.

>>2843319
>If you dont trust the rope
Never use any rope you find in place.

>>2843302 (OP)
Looks sketchy, lol. Seriously, look for another way. There has to be one.

OP here. I realized I could just look up the trail to see if there was any info about it online and it turns out there’s actually one video from like 7 years ago of a dude going down it successfully. It looks like this guy just grabs the rope with one hand and finds footing in the rocks somehow then climbs down. I’ll probably try the same method in a couple weeks and post results unless I die

That is too steep. You should go around it. Don't put your life in danger for no reason

>>2843302 (OP)
spear jump

>>2843451
https://youtube.com/shorts/96VyVDqW8Yw?si=D_dHQRQhYyxbVTgo

>>2843302 (OP)
Just go limp and let yourself flop down

>>2843439
Man, I fell 50 ft off a cliff a few months ago. It was terrifying. I was hardly injured, but I could have died, and I urge you to do all that you can to avoid such danger.

>>2843439
make sure to take your phone, that way you can post results and also we will be able to advise you when you don't know how to get back up

>>2843302 (OP)
just jump, its only 3 or 4 metres

make a loop around your neck for support and commit full body weight down. the friction of rope will slow down the descent. voila! you successfully overcame the obstacle

Generally you wouldn't risk trying to scale cliff faces. When you're /out/ you quickly learn to avoid taking risks, especially if you're alone.

But if you have to do it, there are a few ways to go about it.

1. Pick your decent very carefully.
You might spend 15 minutes just walking around looking for a better place to get down, often you will find a point other people have used, sometimes frens mark these points for other people.

2. Reduce you weight
Just tie a loop of cord at the top and lower your gear down. Keep the gear on the rope so you can haul it back up if you abort. It's not dumb to lower gear down a sheer point like the one you pictured, then descend in a different place.
It's also not a dumb idea to tie a rope to the bottom of your bags, so if they get hung up you can pull them down from the bottom.

3. Choose your decent method
Rappel, climb, scramble, drop.
This is very much a call it as you see it deal, I'm not going to say which is "best".
You could fall from the top to the bottom, you could be injured on the decent or get hung up, you could be injured on the landing.

Sheer drops often call for rapelling, scree, gravel, shale, loose slopes often call for scrambling which you can assist with a simple rope with knots in it. If the slope is complex, full of plants, well you might consider climbing.

But again, generally you will just refuse to scale the slope, and walk around. Not worth the time you'd spend descending properly, not worth the time you'd spend walking around. Everything about the picture you posted screams "not worth".

There are a few simple techniques you can use to assist a decent, the first is simply roping up the top meter so you aren't going to fall straight off the ledge at the top. To lower yourself into a hanging position. A straight rope with knots is safer because you're unlikely to get tangled/hung on it. If you've got a sheer drop of three meters, you can rope the first meter. Then you're basically standing on the ground at the bottom. The risk in that slop would primarily be falling from the top of it, if you lost your grip on the rope and fell from halfway you'd probably be falling a metre onto your feet. Not good, but your unlikely to die.

If you had a steep shale slope, a gully, gravel, well you might rapell it and scramble with your feet. You couldn't "fall" the entire distance top to bottom, so the risk would be rolling and breaking an arm, landing on your head. So rapelling keeps you oriented correctly where you may have no proper footing.

If the drop is full of trees, things you could get injured by or caught on, well maybe ropes are just a liability and you're better off free climbing. You might find a place with multiple hand and foot holds.

So the slope you posted calls for a rope climb, but i can almost guarantee you that it's probably the stipudest place to descend. Sheer faces like that don't tend to extend very far. Just because someone else did it for the challenge, you'd be mentally challenged to copy them.

And fuck that dead branch.

>>2843302 (OP)
bring a ladder

Go around it, even if it takes an hour. Buy some La Sportivas they're grippy as

>>2843302 (OP)
The answer was right in front of you the whole time!

>>2844238
Based

>>2843323
This. Guy hasn't watched Bridge to Terabithia.

we're really making threads to teach fat fucks how to go down a rope - pro tip tie it in to a noose and jump off the cliff

NGMI

>>2843315
As a climber I totally disagree. Getting up is almost always easier than getting down unaided. Lots of folks get themselves into trouble by not thinking before scrambling up something only to realize the down climb will be sketchy af.

>>2843481
your a retard stop scaring someone from doing a tiny rope climb with your inability to not stumble off a mountain.

>>2843302 (OP)
Looks like the descent to English Falls off the Parkway

>>2843302 (OP)
There's a rope right there.

>>2847441
Thanks, it worked.

>>2843302 (OP)
ladder or a log with foot supports

>>2844961
my cat would agree

>>2844417
Was there a movie for that? I read the book in 6th grade and didn’t enjoy it

>>2843304
>>2843302 (OP)
I have yet to encounter a ridge of 3-4m that I could not hike along and find an alternative safe route up/down. Eventually you'll find something with enough footholds or grips. You could go and buy some paracord and wrap it around a sturdy tree if there truly is no way.