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Anonymous No.2844687 [Report] >>2844688 >>2844692 >>2844704 >>2844894 >>2845061 >>2845095 >>2845260 >>2845302 >>2845815 >>2845891 >>2846721 >>2846742
Bros, is it time to stop going /out/
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/13/microplastics-hiking-shoes-outdoor-gear
Anonymous No.2844688 [Report]
>>2844687 (OP)
>time to stop going /out/
Most of this board stopped doing that years ago LMAO
Anonymous No.2844692 [Report] >>2845823 >>2845823
>>2844687 (OP)
Hiking does have significant ecological consequences at scale. It's tough because there's always a push to increase accessibility but the most accessible trails get eroded to shit and littered on.
Anonymous No.2844704 [Report] >>2844707 >>2844733
>>2844687 (OP)
>you tracked 0.0000000000000001 of a gram of plastic into the woods, you monster!!

>also its totally OK that Xi Jinping builds another 3 dozen coal-fired plants and dams another 8 rivers
>and we have no problem with Ngubu slaughtering elephants and rhinos for ivory
>and its super cool that Rajesh is shitting in the river again after throwing a bunch of garbage and his mom's corpse into it
>BUT IF JOE SMITH TRACKS ONE MORE SLIVER OF PLASTIC INTO THE WOODS THEN THE ENVIRONMENT IS FINISHED
Anonymous No.2844707 [Report] >>2844712
>>2844704
Whataboutism
Anonymous No.2844712 [Report] >>2844722 >>2844725 >>2844725
>>2844707
Gay faggot.
So what do we do about plastics getting in to rainwater because of all the shit india and china dump into the ocean?
Or do you really believe that runoff from goretex jackets is the bigger environmental concern?
Anonymous No.2844722 [Report] >>2844754 >>2844761
>>2844712
/out/ is full of filth. I pick up 3-5 pieces of filth every time I go on a daytrip. Anything from sig butts to empty cans of beer, sunglasses and children's toys. What they do in India is of no concern to me, my mountains need to stay clean. I clean my doorstep, you clean yours, pretty simple concept.
Anonymous No.2844725 [Report] >>2844729 >>2845016 >>2845032
>>2844712
Ad hominem. Whataboutism. Anyway
>>2844712
>runoff from goretex jackets
Those microplastics will NEVER GO AWAY. Consider the impact of every idiot on social media treading in sensitive areas with this shit... for 1000 years. If we actually cared we should ban cars and ALL PLASTICS in national parks and wildnerness areas. Humans have been around for an unfathomable amount of time in the wilderness without plastic.
Anonymous No.2844729 [Report]
>>2844725
Ad hominem. Whatboutism. Baseless, sourceless speculation.
Anonymous No.2844733 [Report] >>2844739
>>2844704
>t. waiting for everyone else to be perfect before taking a single step to improve the world
aka puerile cynicism
Anonymous No.2844739 [Report]
>>2844733
The amount of improving you do by not wearing plastic in remote areas is absolutely tiny.
Anonymous No.2844754 [Report]
>>2844722
WHAT THE FUCK????!!!!

I’ve spent a lot of time hauling that trash in there and here you are hauling it out for fun? You know how hard I work to bring my household trash, glass bottles, plastics and used motor oil out there???? The nerve of you.

GET BENT CAPTAIN PLANET COCK SUCKER!!!!
Anonymous No.2844761 [Report] >>2844896
>>2844722
>What they do in India is of no concern to me
Yes it is because those people come here and don't suddenly stop their habits
There is a river in my state that is pristine trout habitat until it goes through a town with large indian population and suddenly there's E. coli in it. I wonder why?
Anonymous No.2844894 [Report]
>>2844687 (OP)
Im not worried. I wear leather, cotton wool, rubber soled boots, etc etc. I avoid plastic garbage.
Anonymous No.2844896 [Report]
>>2844761
How about the fact that their shit and pollution also doesn't respect borders? They're a fucking biohazard/pollution on the planet and should be dealt with as such
Anonymous No.2845006 [Report]
Time to return to leather and wool

Corpos pump out a bunch of environmentally toxic shit, and the people who want to walk outside are the problem. Thanks, (((news)))
Anonymous No.2845016 [Report] >>2845019 >>2845033
>>2844725
>Still missing the point
IT'S IN THE RAINWATER ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY EVERYWHERE IT RAINS. IT'S TOO LATE, THE PLASTIC WON.
You're worried about dandruff level plastic shedding white people do while ignoring explosive diarrhea level plastic contamination nons do. And you justify it to yourself with a "nimby, it's none of my concern what nons do" attitude.
It does concern you though because it ends up in the water and becomes part of the water cycle and even if you banned human entrance to wild land it still gets there through rain and wind.
Figure out what the real problem is and get your priorities straight dickhead.
Anonymous No.2845018 [Report]
Lol they actually deleted my post

Why? It didn't say anything racist. It wasn't trolling. All it did was upset the liberal retard OP. Is that against the rules now?
Anonymous No.2845019 [Report]
Even pointing out that minorities pollute WAY MORE is not even allowed.

Apparently it's racist to even point out that it happens. Isn't that something, anons?

Say, brother >>2845016, isn't that quite something? They won't even let us talk in order to protect their precious minorities.
Anonymous No.2845020 [Report] >>2845027
Ask yourself how you're going to protect the environment when you ARE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THE PROBLEMS AFFECTING IT
Anonymous No.2845027 [Report] >>2845029 >>2845269
>>2845020
Brother, we're dealing with a group with a mindset where starting a forest fire to raise awareness about climate change is morally justified, censorship is the least of their crimes. Its obvious they want us to live like landless peasants trapped in 15 minute cities.
Anonymous No.2845029 [Report] >>2845030 >>2845032
>>2845027
Yes anon, all of us are leftist radicals who want you to live in the pod and eat the bugs. Therefore you are free to live a fossil-heavy lifestyle as god emperor trump intends and drive carbon dioxide levels to levels hitherto thought impossible. Good of you to notice!
Anonymous No.2845030 [Report] >>2845052
>>2845029
Ancom here. Personalizing collective issues is the most corporate soul destroying American habit. Changes happen with production standards; expecting a greed based market system to supply environmentally rational actors is performative cover for companies and agencies that don't care. How many horse shit years of British Petroleum's personal carbon footprint did liberals drag us along for?
Anonymous No.2845032 [Report]
>>2845029
Yeah, i know. Theres one right here;
>>2844725
>If we actually cared we should ban cars and ALL PLASTICS in national parks and wildnerness areas.
Anonymous No.2845033 [Report] >>2845037 >>2845042
>>2845016
Both are bad idiot. One is just a pristine habitat that's ruined, the other is an already fucked up area getting worse. Thirdies throwing plastic fishing lines overboard is not how this plastic got here anyway. If you read the study, it clearly shows hikers and backcountry fishermen are causing this particular case.
Anyway if we agree plastic is BAD, MORE plastic is worse than less. We created this problem in less than 100 years, what do you think it'll be like in 1000 if retards like you keep saying "it's already fucked just give up?" Things CAN get worse.
Anonymous No.2845037 [Report] >>2845049
>>2845033
George Soros funds the whole bs line you’re taking
Anonymous No.2845042 [Report] >>2845049
>>2845033
>Both are bad idiot.
One is infinity worse idiot.
Anonymous No.2845047 [Report]
Not eating fish so not caring for ocean microplastics
Not emotionally attached to "pristine" areas so not worried about traces of microplastics there either
Anonymous No.2845049 [Report]
>>2845037
You can stop buying it. It IS worth it.

>>2845042
Which one can you personally stop immediately?
Anonymous No.2845052 [Report] >>2845057 >>2845060 >>2845744
>>2845030
The personal responsibility lies both in your own consumption and in not stopping others from consuming. Or more broadly, making them pay their just fine for polluting the environment with carbon dioxide. Both forms of responsibility make conservatards froth at the mouth, unable to conceive of anything inbetween "everyone pollutes as much as he feels like" and "live in the pod and eat the bug (be imprisoned in 15 minute cities)".
Anonymous No.2845057 [Report] >>2845063 >>2845169
>>2845052
You haven't supplied another option on how we construct homes and create food etc. If you had an understanding of how the world worked you'd realize you can't stop using oil
Anonymous No.2845060 [Report] >>2845169
>>2845052
>conservatards
Way to out yourself faggot.
Anonymous No.2845061 [Report]
>>2844687 (OP)
Anonymous No.2845063 [Report]
>>2845057
NTA but again with this retarded black and white thinking. Less oil is better than more. Less plastic is better than more. Just because some people use oil and plastic doesn't mean it's pointless to try to use less.
Anonymous No.2845095 [Report]
>>2844687 (OP)
i've come to the sad conclusion that there is probably nothing to be done about microplastics. especially when brown people exist.
Anonymous No.2845169 [Report] >>2845285
>>2845057
Renewable energies including nuclear are a thing. Battery vehicles are a thing. Carbon neutral fuels for the fringe cases where batteries don't work are a thing. It's not totally viable yet, but it will be during our life time. China and europe are implementing it at roughly the rate that is economically beneficial. America under trump is going full fossil fuels. We are not the same.
>>2845060
Literally show me a single (american) conservative who's ok with collective restrictions on carbon dioxide emissions.
Anonymous No.2845260 [Report]
>>2844687 (OP)
Maybe they should stop making everything out of plastic
Anonymous No.2845269 [Report] >>2845371
>>2845027
>Brother, we're dealing with a group with a mindset where starting a forest fire to raise awareness about climate change is morally justified
You're not dealing with anything, there is no group and you're just inventing a narrative
Anonymous No.2845283 [Report] >>2845289
This is all just the beginning prep work for the world government and the re-wilding side of the climate change. They eventually want all rural areas depopulated with largely automated industrial farming allowed only on relatively small areas of land, everyone living in a pod in mega-cities with no personal transport allowed, sweeping restrictions of what you can do and say, travel bans and not actually owning anything you pay for.

The only real way to fix and then preserve the earth is to de-industrialize, depopulate and live in small communities farming withing natural processes and hunting/gathering.
Anonymous No.2845285 [Report] >>2845364 >>2845741
>>2845169
explain to me how you will keep water and insects out of your home without products containing plastic
Anonymous No.2845289 [Report] >>2845352
>>2845283
>They eventually want all rural areas depopulated with largely automated industrial farming allowed only on relatively small areas of land, everyone living in a pod in mega-cities with no personal transport allowed, sweeping restrictions of what you can do and say, travel bans and not actually owning anything you pay for.

Sounds nice desu
Anonymous No.2845298 [Report]
>obviously retarded dogshit article from some noname faggot journalist leech who probably wrote articles a few years ago about hiking being racist
>/out/ acts like we leave gigatons of microplastics in the woods from our boots and jackets
Holy shit, when did this board get infected by redditor vermin so badly?
Anonymous No.2845302 [Report]
>>2844687 (OP)
Ultralighters did this
Anonymous No.2845352 [Report]
>>2845289
1 Shekel has been deposited in your account.
Anonymous No.2845364 [Report] >>2845372
>>2845285
Anonymous No.2845371 [Report]
>>2845269
Keep covering for your comrades that started the oregon fires in 2020.
>It's an IDEA not a GROUP!
Anonymous No.2845372 [Report] >>2845396 >>2845740 >>2846180
>>2845364
so what do you think is underneath that to prevent moisture transfer, what do you think is in the walls the floor? You can admit you have no idea what your talking about anytime soon, go back to sealing your windows with rough wood and feeling the windy breeze in your home.
Anonymous No.2845396 [Report] >>2845397
>>2845372
>Walls and floor with plastic
U wot
Also I know that they also use plastic in modern roofs, but it's not like you couldn't replace those materials. We've had livable buildings for millenia and plastics for barely a century.
Anonymous No.2845397 [Report]
>>2845396
Also plastic in construction, that is properly disposed of afterwards (burnt or recycled) is utterly harmless compared to all the other uses that leech microplastics into the environment.
Anonymous No.2845740 [Report] >>2845802
>>2845372
This is an insane take. You make it sound like if any water gets in the house it'll collapse immediately. The tile blocks 99% of water, the remaining 1% absorbs into the tile, and then bakes out of it when the sun comes back out. Any that makes it through the roof is so little it just dissipates, unless you have a hole in your roof.

>rough wood
Humans invented plaster more than 5000 years before Christ, and have been using it in moulding to prevent drafts for almost as long.
Anonymous No.2845741 [Report] >>2845802
>>2845285

>insects
If you keep your house clean, and live somewhere on the Northern end of North America, you can generally let bugs do their thing. Put mothballs in your closets, and keep the lights on in your basement (high efficiency LEDs make this reasonable in current era), and the only bugs you'll ever have to deal with are a couple earwig carcasses on a windowsill somewhere

Unless you have termites or bedbugs or something. Infestations are different, and plastic isn't the deciding factor there.

>water
don't live on a flood-plane? We figured out how to keep rain out a long time ago, plastics not required
Anonymous No.2845744 [Report] >>2845821
>>2845052
>polluting the environment with carbon dioxide
delusional
Anonymous No.2845802 [Report]
>>2845741
>>2845740
I suggest you go build a house without using any plastic in the construction and see how it goes my man. and if you actually think slate tiles keep water out in the way that your used to and have accepted as a standard AKA 100% then your a fool. If you had to live by the standards you decreed you'd cry foul in a day
Anonymous No.2845815 [Report]
>>2844687 (OP)
I wear leather shoes bitch
Anonymous No.2845821 [Report] >>2846086 >>2846089
>>2845744
>My pollution (not actually pollution, fuck off, delusional)
>Brown people pollution (worst thing ever, justification for genocide)
Anonymous No.2845823 [Report]
>>2844692
Its our planet, it exists to server our needs. If nature wants more consideration it needs to start evolving cognizance and opposable thumbs because its got a lot of catching up to do.

>>2844692
>Eroded to shit and littered on
Here's a thought. Stop giving browns and women rights and you can hold the men accountable for their behavior again after the bar for standards isn't so incredibly low that stuff like this doesn't even register.
Anonymous No.2845891 [Report]
>>2844687 (OP)
Microplastics are the least of my worries.
Anonymous No.2846086 [Report] >>2846120
>>2845821
>SAAR your breathing is worse than me throwing garbage into your rivers!
Anonymous No.2846089 [Report]
>>2845821
>>My pollution (not actually pollution, fuck off, delusional)
>>Brown people pollution (worst thing ever, justification for genocide)
this but unironically. day of the flush cannot happen soon enough.
Anonymous No.2846120 [Report] >>2846123 >>2846209
>>2846086
Unironically. Indian trash doesn't reach me, american carbon dioxide does.
Also breathing is technically carbon neutral, but producing food mostly isn't. And once again, fatmericans pollute the world well beyond their fair share.
Anonymous No.2846123 [Report] >>2846125
>>2846120
>Unironically. Indian trash doesn't reach me
I got bad news for ya, chief.
Anonymous No.2846125 [Report] >>2846126
>>2846123
I don't eat fish from the indian ocean, so yeah.
Anonymous No.2846126 [Report]
>>2846125
I got bad news for ya, chief.
Anonymous No.2846128 [Report] >>2846130 >>2846136 >>2846172
As it turns out, Carbon Dioxide isn’t a pollutant. It was removed from the EPA’s list based on scientific data. Which showed it got on the list in the first place for political reasons. Weird!

The elevated levels of C02 in the atmosphere is actually a good thing for plant growth. It doesn’t affect your lungs or health, just makes plants grow bigger. We’re going to have Jurassic levels of abundance.
Anonymous No.2846130 [Report] >>2846165 >>2846181
>>2846128
>Carbon dioxide is harmless because it's not on some murrimutt list
The effect of carbon dioxide on global temperatures is so simple and obvious that people knew of it at the end of the 19th century. And global warming is so pronounced that I can well remember the difference in snow levels between now and 20 years ago. You're a retard clinging to unscientific opinions because it allows you to continue your harmful lifestyle. Excatly like an indian who thinks he plastic he keeps throwing into the ganges is harmless.
Anonymous No.2846136 [Report] >>2846210
>>2846128
>removed from the EPA’s list based on scientific data.
aka Trump told them to
Anonymous No.2846165 [Report] >>2846169
>>2846130
>And global warming is so pronounced that I can well remember the difference in snow levels between now and 20 years ago.
Could your perception be distorted because you were shorter 20 years ago genius?
Anonymous No.2846169 [Report]
>>2846165
Are you imagining that the snow went over my head back then and not now or something? What I mean is that we regularly had complete snow cover and nasty snow sludge for weeks, and now it's days at best.
Also 20 years ago I was 14 and almost grown up.
Anonymous No.2846172 [Report] >>2846208 >>2846234
>>2846128
Wow anon, are you really blinding trusting what the government tells you about what is and isn't safe for the environment and you're body?
I thought we were supposed to be le ebin cynics here :^)
Anonymous No.2846180 [Report] >>2846211
>>2845372
My home has tar paper, not plastic. Plastic underlayment traps moisture and causes your home to rot 50 years earlier than it should, and plastic between your sheathing and your siding leads to sick home syndrome and black mold. The idea that modern construction materials are better than what was being used 100 years ago is a sick fucking joke.
Anonymous No.2846181 [Report]
>>2846130
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius
>On the other hand, any doubling of the percentage of carbon dioxide in the air would raise the temperature of the earth's surface by 4°.
Arrhenius did a back of the envelope calculation in 1906 and he was already in the right ballpark.
Anonymous No.2846208 [Report]
>>2846172
Wow anon could you not talk like a hand rubbing kike or return to reddit where you belong with your shitskin cocksucking behavior?
Anonymous No.2846209 [Report] >>2846670
>>2846120
>american carbon dioxide
unfortunately it's not a pollutant so not a single pajeet waste of biomass will die from it.
>And once again, fatmericans pollute the world well beyond their fair share.
fair share would require culling you third world vermin to less than 1 billion total and keeping you in a walled off reserve.
Anonymous No.2846210 [Report] >>2846662
>>2846136
as opposed to Obama telling them to change gears from global cooling to warming and wage legistlative war with it?
Anonymous No.2846211 [Report]
>>2846180
tar paper so an oil product which is ostensibly what I meant by plastic, also the idea that tar paper is better then modern typar etc is a joke
Anonymous No.2846234 [Report] >>2846670
>>2846172
>Wow anon, are you really blinding trusting what the government tells you about what is and isn't safe for the environment and you're body?
Farmers run CO2 generators in greenhouses to drastically raise the concentration, and they do not suffer any deleterious effects from long term exposure.
Anonymous No.2846662 [Report] >>2846666
>>2846210
>global cooling
Find me a single press release or gov't document that talks about global cooling.
Anonymous No.2846666 [Report] >>2846669
>>2846662
there you go
https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/today-its-global-warming-in-the-70s-it-was-the-coming-ice-age
although i was incorrect about it starting with obama, it was al gore that changed the tune and obama only used the alarmism to shove illegal unelected federal powers down our throat.
Anonymous No.2846669 [Report] >>2846678
>>2846666
Sorry anon, you were incorrect about obama so by your own logic I will discard anything you said.
Anonymous No.2846670 [Report] >>2846679 >>2846755
>>2846209
>>2846234
Carbon dioxide is harmful because it causes global warming. Not because breathing the air gets a little bit harder.
Anonymous No.2846678 [Report]
>>2846669
ok, i never expected you not to so feel free to keep dilating by your lonesome
Anonymous No.2846679 [Report] >>2846691 >>2846716
>>2846670
so it's not a pollutant, glad you agree with us.

btw manmade global warming is a jewish lie to punish white people and redistribute their hard earned wealth to unproductive third world.
Anonymous No.2846691 [Report]
>>2846679
None of this is remotely true
Anonymous No.2846716 [Report]
>>2846679
Climate denial is an american lie so americans can continue to consume energy and emit carbon dioxide at greater levels than anyone else in the world, save some arab oil states.
Anonymous No.2846721 [Report] >>2846736
>>2844687 (OP)
anon from the conservation general here. i've been thinking about this thread a lot during this last week.. and how "just stop going outside lol" is simply defeatism. do you know how painful it is to try to remove plastic bags that are pierced on mesquite, barbed wire, or buried into the soil? how easily most plastic used as foodware/consumables is broken down by UV over time? you don't really understand until you're out picking up stuff on the brink of decaying into microplastics, shattering in your hands - or worse, something that is already a pile of shards.
if we all just took the literal 5 seconds it would take out of our day to pick up trash we see in the wild, things would actually change - no matter how small, taking the time to remove it is enough to permanently affect the future. you can also do things to make sure it happens, like properly bagging it. anything you can do to recycle what you find is an added bonus. if you don't know any kind of recycling program near you, check with your city and or local churches which may have a program that accepts materials like aluminum, cardboard, or glass. pick up trash that is near roadways by keeping trash that would shatter into microplastics from doing so when people run it over, alongside anywhere idiots would mow it over. if you want to prioritize protecting life, try to look for trash near places where people fish - the fishing line and hooks are dangerous (especially to birds) for obvious reasons, also glass shards are something else that injure animals that go to the water. i've found injured animals like baby birds with spalled legs and frogs that were hurt when someone was mowing, and took them to get them the help they needed.. you could even find a lost kitten that needs a good home. the solution isn't going outside less - i think it's time to go outside MORE, it's time to pay attention to the world around you MORE. if you don't step up, who will?
Anonymous No.2846736 [Report] >>2846760
>>2846721
The people who care about this are already doing this and it isn't an issue North America and Europe. We essentially need to implement martial law on india and china to stop them from poisoning the world
Anonymous No.2846742 [Report]
>>2844687 (OP)
Time to start wearing wooden clogs
Anonymous No.2846755 [Report]
>>2846670
We're in a miniature ice age. The temperature will go up no matter how much money you send to billionaires.
Anonymous No.2846760 [Report] >>2846927
>>2846736
but you can't change what's going on in those places on the other side of the world, the only thing that should readily matter is here and now, what can be changed. and if you consider the logistics of what you're preposing it is obviously something straight out of the turner diaries that would involve glassing large amounts of people and nature. do you really think the average american would get behind forcing martial law on the two most populous countries, much less the rest of the world (which that would require)? anyways i'm just trying to inspire some people to not let shit like this get them down when they see it, shit is pretty bad but you know it's going to get way fucking worse and nothing can change that until we give enough of a damn to be the vehicle of change ourselves. that doesn't have to involve collapsing the governments of world powers
Anonymous No.2846927 [Report]
>>2846760
I agree, we must immediately implement large cutbacks on US agriculture and implement a total ban on food exports to the third world, preferably coupled with a naval blocade of those countries for good measure until they completely fix their ecological situation to match America and Europe's level in terms of recycling, air and water pollution and carbon emissions per volume of industrial productivity. Only that way can we start to address climate change. This is the only reasonable alternative to using nuclear weapons and enliminating those polluters threatening our planet entirely.