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Anonymous No.2847415 [Report] >>2847450 >>2847466
What is the logistical point of permits?
Why do you "need" permits for the JMT and how are they actually enforced?
Anonymous No.2847450 [Report] >>2847485
>>2847415 (OP)
Because C*lifornia is a mix of overcrowded urban sprawl and some of the most beautiful terrain on Earth. The C*lifornian regularly leaves their urban containment zone to recreate in the wilderness; some enforcement measures are required to try to prevent overuse.
Anonymous No.2847466 [Report] >>2847478
>>2847415 (OP)
Because way way way too many people want to do trails like the JMT every year. Limiting numbers means fewer campsites on the landscape, less bad outcomes like bad shitting and trash, less negative interactions between people fighting for space, less total impact in a fragile wilderness, and most importantly, retention of wilderness character. All of the federal land management agencies that manage wilderness have been given and injucntion to preserve wilderness character, which means limiting the number of people so that anybody can go in and actually have a wilderness experience of few to no people. Even if they wanted to allow more spots they cant.

The sections that go through the national parks are regularly patrolled by wilderness rangers. Its also the PCT so they are on it all the time to help idiots and those in need. The national forest section not so much.

The real truth is that you can make a month long trip through the high sierra that doesnt involve the jmt, but a the logistics are up to you. If you want to do the popular one for ease of use, you deserve to have to go through hurdles
Anonymous No.2847478 [Report] >>2847487
>>2847466
This is actually a good answer.
Anonymous No.2847485 [Report] >>2847487 >>2847495
>>2847450
this is actually a good answer
Anonymous No.2847487 [Report] >>2847495
>>2847478
>>2847485
Thanks. I wrote both those posts.
Anonymous No.2847492 [Report] >>2847495
The US should target 250 million as a goal stable population. Once we went over that mark, things started to get overcrowded everywhere.
Anonymous No.2847495 [Report] >>2847498
>>2847492
I agree. Please kill yourself right now so that I can go camping without reservations in state parks and without seeing other people.

>>2847485
>>2847487
I'm going to need you two to also off yourselves. For environmental conservation and for peace in the outdoors.
Anonymous No.2847498 [Report]
>>2847495
I'm in a rustbelt state. We're already doing our part. Clean out California, Texas, and New Jersey to get down to 250 million.