Thread 4416240

Why do we hate him so bad?

Because we have to fool around with bulky RAW files to even have a fraction of the power Ken gets from simply shooting in VIVID, +5 sharpening, +3 saturation, Perfectly Clear.

motel art mixed with a 20 year archive of opinionated bullshit in html format

he's your classic boomer who somehow made a living doing something unremarkable. we will take better pictures and do everything else right, only to make no money and continue living in bumfuck nowhere.

boomers make me so mad

>>4416240 (OP)
I don't hate him

>>4416244
>motel art
define this further.

>>4416251
Inoffensive, "calming" or just plain boring art. Stuff like abstract color splatters and lines in cool tones or colorful mountains ala Mr. Rockwell. Black and white photos of a crossroads marketplace, or maybe a small print of an impressionist field

>>4416240 (OP)
>Boomer says every lens is excellent no-matter what, and says things like distortion and vignetting is no big deal becaue your camera can correct it so don't worry, just buy this kit lens and stop worrying about it.
>But if you've got the money you should buy this OTHER super super sharp lens. AND IF you can stomach the weight and sneed f/4 you should buy this OTHER OTHER ULTRA SHARP lens.
>Also you should turn saturation up to +7 and contrast to +5
>Takes photos exclusively of car shows and motel signs
>Thinks f/2.8 exists purely for film and anything you can't shoot at f/8 isn't worth shooting at all

>>4416277
>>Thinks f/2.8 exists purely for film and anything you can't shoot at f/8 isn't worth shooting at all
This one's actually a TRVKE tho, a frame full of good shit is better than a frame with just a good subject and heaps of bad shit blurred out

@Ken haters post your expanding family

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>>4416288
That kid normally looks unhappy and this is no exception. Imagine being a poster child for your grandad's mediocre snapshits.
Unironically feel bad for him

>>4416240 (OP)
Who is this >we you speak of?
Cannot stop laughing.

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>>4416240 (OP)
Why would you hate a stranger on the internet?
>>4416277
Ken is addressing his audience. If your idea of a good photo is something other than sharp, bright and in-focus then you may just be a wanker trying to do art, and nothing he could ever say would matter to you anyway.
>except to make you extraordinarily butthurt

>>4416411
>If your idea of a good photo is something other than sharp, bright and in-focus then you may just be a wanker trying to do art
Let me hit you with some knowledge
>f/2
>iso 800
>soft focus
Thank me later

>>4416240 (OP)
Because of his family

I don't

>>4416288
why do their eyes look like that

>>4416288
ahh yes those FUJIFILM VELVIA® 100 YELLOW TONEZ on his teeth

>>4416240 (OP)
Don't hate him, his camera and lens reviews sometimes have some useful factoids, keeping in mind that any given item will be about half as good as Ken claims it to be. I think so long as you understand he's moreso a camera blogger, rather than a photographer.

I don't hate him, i just don't like his demeanor and bragging about stuff that happened decades ago.
He's usually straight to the point and gives info in a consistent way, by the third time you know where to look and his articles become quick to check.
In terms of photography i think digital fucked him, his B&W film stuff is actually not bad at all, perhaps cliche but they work.

>>4416240 (OP)
I love ken and I continue to reference his writing.

>>4416240 (OP)
bro is the Doug DeMuro of cameras

>>4417445
I feel bad reading that, Ken is far from being that level of drooling retard who doesn't even know the basics of the things he's reviewing

>>4417456
i just meant it in the fact that he kinda looks like him and the hobbies respective board hates him

>>4416240 (OP)
I love Ken, especially his page about anal probes from aliens.

I also follow the rules and pay him a donation each time I print a camera review.

>>4417470
https://www.kenrockwell.com/analprobe/dissent.htm

the human grilled cheese sandwich

>>4416240 (OP)
Because pic related is the average Ken Rockwell image.
He has the gall to shoot bullshit like this while claiming SOOC JPEG with saturation set to a million is objectively better than actually having functioning vision and taste. It's less hatred and more like you can't take him or any of his claims seriously at all when this is what he tries to back his opinions with.
However, his lens and camera reviews are good for referencing factual things like dimensions, in which case he is fairly thorough.

>>4417471
lmao what a guy ken

>>4417458
Ken doesn't look anything like jew demuro. Ken is 70% prussian germanic.

>>4416277
I think Ken doesn’t mean that every lens is perfectly sharp—he means that every lens is sharp enough to create a beautiful picture.

On his page, he tells the uninformed that even an old or basic lens is great, so they leave with the reassurance that they’re not missing out on much. That lets them focus on what really matters in photography: creating photos that move something special inside the viewer.

The advertising industry is really good at making you feel like you’re missing out. Ken knows this, and he uses the power of pure, junk-free HTML to fight against it.

>>4417471
What the fuck lmao why did I not know about this page yet. Ken lore goes deep

>>4417506
Allowing your child to become obese should warrant a lengthy prison sentence for neglect/abuse. It's no different from deliberately feeding them poison on a daily basis

>>4417606
and er... deeper
https://www.kenrockwell.com/analprobe/ceo.htm

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nm/aliens/index.htm

https://kenrockwell.com/ri/WhereDoBabiesComeFrom.htm

>>4417471
Lmfao
Is this real?

>>4417561
He just needs to stick with film and B&W, that way he concentrates in what really matters and that is light

>>4417657
Also going to good places, not the faux, McDonalds american tourist traps he always finds himself

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>>4417643
Yep, been up for years.
>no pun intended

>>4417637
>https://www.kenrockwell.com/nm/aliens/index.htm
>Aliens from other worlds regularly visited our planet and interacted with both primitive and European peoples from about 900 through 1200 AD.
>both primitive and European
Kek that colourblind retard is secretly based I swear. I remember when someone posted his youtube rant on customer service and he had to differentiate between talking to Indians and actual humans

>>4417657
>>4417659
>>4417690
WTF I love Ken now?!? He's actually a good photographer when you don't give him a saturation slider and he's based as fuck?

Jared Polin lives rent free in Kensimps heads

>>4417445
What's wrong with DeMuro?

>>4418195
Lack of knowledge in most everything he's talking about, he's empirical in his reviews while also ignoring medium to long-run aspects that are relevant to his points, all of these while also being arrogant but that may be american confidence.
In short he's talking and reviewing stuff far from his league, it's like a cellphone snapper reviewing a well-worn Canon 1DX mk. II with a 100mm macro.

>>4416251
literally taking photos of motels

>>4416251
The shit you would see hanging in a motel or doctors office

>>4418791
according to this board, thats the peak appreciation your art will ever get! its what everyone should dream for! esp if its gonna be in an airbnb!

>>4418793
no friend, basement-dwelling, dog rapist, pugy sausage rolls typed this

>>4418833
calling someone basement dwelling in the big 2k25

>>4418837
>dwelling in a basement in the big 2k25

>>4418840
projecting

>>4418193
I fucking hate this guy

>>4417608
based opinion. I was neglected growing up too.

I genuinely can't understand why you guys are even still talking about this guy. You have been bitching about this fairly low key camera review for the best part of ten years.

I like his photos and he likes mine, idk what there is to hate

>>4420697
because he sucks at photography and somehow still reviews cameras for a living?

It'd be like if you gave bad head but still were a massive faggot

>>4420697
It's board culture. /fit/ has boogie, /v/ has sarkeesian, etc

>>4420693
I was emotionally neglected as a child. Is that why people become photographers? Parental Neglect?

>>4416704
sharpen

>>4416240 (OP)
Because we know he's right about everything and is a significantly above average photographer.

If he used fuji film sims instead of nikon vivid++, which hasn't looked good since the d200, and stopped replacing skies he would mog everyone in /rpt/

>>4420898
>significantly above average photographer.
he is a blind retard, his only good photos are on film

>>4420899
>t. coping because ken mogged him
ken rockwell can make a better photograph with a hotel sign than 99% of /p/ can make given a vibrant street scene

>>4417561
>people being mad at someone for cranking the saturation because they learned from someone that less is more
you will never be artists, because you will always copy and follow the rules. That's always been like that.
I've tried to tell people for so many years that they should do their own thing but they never listen. It's as if there are people that exist with no sense of self.

hey hes rly good at giving info about lens. u need to know the filter size of a random leica lens?
kens got ur fucking back bro.

I havent't been to /p/ for 10 years.
Glad to see Ken still rocking it

>>4421620
>implying implications

>>4417608
i would make it illegal to sell or give food to an obese person

>>4416240 (OP)
I don't hate him. His camera reviews are informative. I even sent him $5 once.

>>4423354
thank you for supporting his growing family

>>4423354
Yeah, he has good reviews. I trust his judgment. You know what, I'll see what I can send him. I've used his advice before and gained from it, it seems only fair.
>>4422279
Based.

I bet this will make some people seethe.

>>4416252
Rockwell's work is anything but calming. His oversaturated horse shit looks like sweet and sour sauce was sprayed over it.

>>4417659
This grey blob is disgusting shit and an affront to anyone who actually mastered the zone system

>>4417471
kek but are we sure this isn't some tongue in cheek boomer humor from ken

he is probably retarded enough to be serious but still

>>4423398
Can you explain why to someone who doesn't really know

>>4417690
>he had to differentiate between talking to Indians and actual humans
link?

>>4423354
that $5 went directly towards growing his pixar character looking son's fat reserves
thank you for your donation

>>4423384
heh

>>4418193
>every camera review has him taking pictures of children
why does he do this? doesn't he know his audience is neckbeards?

>>4423462
No one nose for sure

>>4423517
>(((nose)))
Kek, I see what you did there. You, sly dog, you.

>>4417456
Pretty sure Doug knows what he's talking about...

>>4416240 (OP)
>claims to have won countless awards, having his works sought after by thousands of private collectors
>only proof is a local newspaper snipped from 30 years ago about him winning an award for a purple desert photo (he came in second but the original winner was disqualified)

>>4423784
https://www.kenrockwell.com/2000/video.htm

>>4416240 (OP)
Because technical photographers have no soul and they are 3/4th of the camera body market.

Actual photographers just get the camera they need for the job and usually use their iphone to take casual pics.

>>4423947
Technical photographers have the most soul. It's often a pretty basic soul but it's a soul only a person can have, the desire to be more precise. Computers never want that, they're already precise, and computers don't want, their program needs or needs not.

Everyone else is a computer program that eventually bases itself off a fictional character to hide its mechanistic nature behind dramatic flair
>ah look at me, cigarettes, teenagers, tattoos, direct flash, film, i'm a bohemian type
>i vote democrat btw. blm. photograph POC. photograph LGBQ.
>look at all this soul
>is this not what a human would photograph
>human is a word i say a lot
>this is human, human condition, human this, human that
>my fellow humans
It's so irritating.

>>4424012
>says human instead of person/people
>says male instead of man and boy
>sats female instead of girl and woman
>refers to groups with soulless acronyms
linguistic tells of pod people

>>4424012
Nah anon you got it wrong, I got a revelation visiting the birb thread for the first time ever
Technical photographer are bird people who pixel peep and talk with acronyms to explain some shit metrics no one cares about
The most soulful photographers are those that photograph whats around them and gift photos they printed to friends and family on christmas and birthdays

>>4424015
>Technical photographer are bird people who pixel peep and talk with acronyms to explain some shit metrics no one cares about
Only actual flesh and blood human beings could possibly enjoy this. To anything mechanistic it's a waste of time, to humans, it's seeing the unseen, learning new things, and utterly fascinating.

Many people who don't like it just aren't smart enough to. You can tell, because they can't imagine there being room in the brain for anything else. And then there are machine people, who can not even understand how it can be fun because they are already precise and analytical and their programmed purpose is to pretend to be a living thing. The latter type, you can spot by how often they bring up dollar amounts and have to hold themselves back from printing out a full cost-benefit analysis.

>The most soulful photographers are those that photograph whats around them and gift photos they printed to friends and family on christmas and birthdays
That's not soul, that's being common folk, and it's not a behavior exclusive to common folk. Common folk are just exclusive to boring and simple things.

>>4424021
now imagine you have the 110-130 IQ people who can enjoy this, they have fun with a microscope or a telescope too, and everyone around them except for maybe one guy they don't get to talk to that often only gives a shit about football and whatever the fuck a beyonce is. add it up and you get the internet being mostly them talking to each other.

>>4424029
>imagine you have the 110-130 IQ people
post above stated
>says human instead of person/people
being autistic doesn't automatically make you smart anon, it just makes you autistic

>>4416240 (OP)
I'm kinda amazed how one of the most comprehensive websites detailing tons of specs and analyses of lenses is made by a guy who can't shoot a halfway decent photo to save his life. I guess hardwarefags are just like that.

>>4424039
He copy and pastes the specs and calls every single photo sharp whether or not it is

Here's a real hardwarefags blog
https://kasson.com/wpmain/
https://www.photography.org/jim-kasson

>>4424036
Anon... autistic people are smarter. It's a fact. They're massively overrepresented in the arts as well. People who don't know this think artists are depressed, schizos, or assholes but they're actually all autistic. Autistic people are the only ones that actually make art because everyone else gets bored and fucks off to make money/have sex before they can get deep into it.

>>4424055
>biggest pixel peeper on youtube
https://www.instagram.com/chris_frost_photography/?hl=en
>biggest gear theory schizo
https://yannickkhong.com/people-project

the gearfag gods photomog /p/ desu. every successful photographer in fashion and editorial is a bigger gearfag than anyone here. hence, leica and hasselblad can stay profitable.

>>4416240 (OP)
All those horrible pictures of his ugly children.

>>4424058
>https://www.instagram.com/chris_frost_photography/?hl=en
Don't think that is the same guy. Youtube dude is called Cristopher.

>>4423384
BASED

I thought you guys were exaggerating when ya'll said he maxes the saturation, then I found his YT and he straight up he does in fact maxes it in camera without any hint of irony at all, added with some anti-commie snippets.
Based.

>>4416240 (OP)
Ngl his site is occasionally useful when I want to compare 4 lenses of the same focal length from over 5 generatiobs of mfg or the quality differences between all nikons wides or superzooms or micros or whatever the fuck. Bc this aspie nerd went ahead and posted comparisons with examples, so I don’t have to buy all these fucking lenses myself just to do the same shit he did. But my god his fucking ideas about raw & jpg, his wanton orgiastic use of the saturation slider, and his apparent need to just spray bad snapshots of anything and everything, & pontificate truly hair-brained perspectives bc he’s a fuckin murrican engineer so of course he doesn’t know the limits of his intelligence & thinks that bc as an engineer he has all the hard & fast answers, therefore if he has a thought about anything it must therefore be fucking unassailable too, bc they don’t make engineering students take philosophy to deflate your fucking dangerously erroneous conceits. Cunts.

>>4416280
What, you mean you don’t want your portrait taken with a 14mm at f2.8? I always want 18 feet on either side of me lost in a big blurry wash of nothing.

>>4423384
Everyone here knows you don't have $25 to spare, larper. Post the receipt after you've sent the donation, faggot.

You can't honestly tell me his site doesn't have useful information

>>4417561
on what planet was this photo taken?

It's honestly jealousy I think. He's making money spewing bad information and shooting ugly photos. The /p/ dream

>>4416240 (OP)
>Why do we hate him so bad?
We don't. It's this creepy pedophile we hate.

>>4416240 (OP)
>>4416288
now post his fat daughter

>>4418193
Even the yid search knows.

>>4431483
This is borderline abstract, similar to how Monet's paintings edged toward expressionism in his later life.

>>4416704
>>4420886
I'm not so sure, those weird CostCo Guys or whatever have the same eyes. The 1000 Slop Bucket Stare maybe.

>>4420708
the act of sex was casualized for women as a tradition act


but not for men

the divide between the clawless gazelke trying to feed the lazy lion begins

So they can be talked to like that and will traditionally responding in boost

or confidence

which they teach themselves to do when ever afraid or very flustered

where as a man will send you packing with blunt tips for being a whiny dam

and guys just automatically get more comfy at that point...because of course they do


so like all drugs they do it harder instead of breathing

brcause they are retarded from working all day...pup is spent has no fur to share but since theyre both desd tired they will spar until one of them dies another day

so we dream...the little death....until we push too hard then its gone to the sky the bird leaves

>>4432803
Thousand Island Stare

>>4432831
kek

Ken Rockwell and I have apparently been Facebook friends for over 20 years. He's actually been very nice and engaging over that time.

He's just this normal dude who actually really likes taking photos and just does his own thing, and ekes out a living from it.

The deeper hate comes when try-hard artist kids realize that all they really want in life is to wear a fanny pack + SPF 30, and take relaxing JPGs of unpretentious stuff... It's hard confronting the self-reflection shit that comes with that

>>4438232
I bought a fanny pack a few months ago, I have to say it was a very good decision that really improved my QoL

>>4416240 (OP)
saved me from gearfagging back when starting photography so cant hate him

>>4438232
I think the hate comes from his photos being shit while speaking authoritatively on photo gear. Someone can take good pictures and know jack shit about gear, but if you only know about gear and your pics are garbage why should I care about what you have to say? The end product is all that matters, gear should enable that but is not the point. I have no use for you jerking off about sharpness or low light performance if you don't know how to take pictures with those things enabling you.

>>4440292
He's essentially a micro four thirds coper
>Its better than fool frame behold the equivalence
>phone_tier_dog_snapshit
And as chance would have it, the z50ii is now "the only camera anyone needs"

he definitely posts here

Ken is just another in the overall trend
>Failed photographer:
>Anti-gear gearfag
>Internet expert ("consult these charts and pixel peeping crops for proof")
>"Let me tell you what you really need or don't - yes, a crop sensor, be reasonable with your money according to this cost/benefit graph"

>Successful photographer:
>Huge gearfag, medium format is an inevitability
>Actually clueless ("its because of the depth rendered microtonality, you just gotta feel it man")
>"Ansel adams used a big camera so why dont you"

>>4440380
successful photographers love photography so they love cool cameras like medium format, 4x5, and full frame and think photography is important and deserves to be done with cool shit

failed photographers hate photography so they hate cool cameras and want everything to be the bare functional minimum for taking "a good picture" every now and then to emphasize how unimportant they think photography should be

K-oal

>>4432666
The only reason his paintings looked like that towards the end is because he was losing his eyesight.

>>4440703
Damn Ken should start looking after his own eyesight.

>>4440387
this is rad